| Yah you, you stupid anime hipsters, why do you hate certain anime just because it is popular? I like Code gayass and clannaids, and so what! You would too if they weren't popular, but no... you have to be different. And don't give me that 'i don't like it cause it isn't good' crap, be honest now if the majority of people on MAL didn't know about it or didn't like it you would be all up in it. So quit lying to yourself you hypocrite. |
SaladISStupidasdApr 14, 2010 11:41 PM
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| THE ONE AND ONLY ANIME HIPSTER |
Free_Candy said: THE ONE AND ONLY ANIME HIPSTER I actually think he is the exact example of the opposite of an anime hipster. |
ShiroiNoKiwi said: Indeed indeed.Even if the ratings are good, if I don't like it, then that means it's SHIT!! But I agree, hipsters are silly creatures. |
| Some people care about what's actually good; meanwhile, nerds rage. |
| It doesn't need to be said, really. Some people know it, such wisdom is lost on the rest. |
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corbenic said: It doesn't need to be said, really. Some people know it, such wisdom is lost on the rest. True enough. |
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tehnominator said: Indeed so. I would have liked it if it was anything remotely close to good. Or alternatively, not being pretentious and at least made it clear it didn't care about story or character writing from the start.Well, there's one problem with your argument... a lot of people don't dislike Code Geass because it's popular. They don't like it because it's terrible. |
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tehnominator said: Well, there's one problem with your argument... a lot of people don't dislike Code Geass because it's popular. They don't like it because it's terrible. I never mentioned codegayass, i like it because i am a fan boy and cause it took my anime virginity, but i was inferring it. However you cynics cannot enjoy it and thus label it bad. Idk if that made sense, i am not in my normal frame of mind. |
dpjdm said: However you cynics cannot enjoy it and thus label it bad. We "label" it bad because it is bad. I mean, sorry to burst your nostalgia bubble. I get it, I liked Video Girl Ai when I was 13, but... come on. See, one of the key differences here is that a lot of people who love stuff like this may watch a lot of anime, but maybe they haven't seen many films, or read many books. Or maybe it's not about exposure, and they just don't... have the capacity to admit that garbage is garbage. Or to even recognize the difference between garbage and pulp. And for once I'm not even trying to be a dick by explaining things this way. Some people who watch anime have well-informed tastes, and some don't. I think the latter is more likely to get all crazy over mediocrity like Code Geass, Death Note, Haruhi, Elfen Lied, etc. |
antitype said: dpjdm said: However you cynics cannot enjoy it and thus label it bad. We "label" it bad because it is bad. I mean, sorry to burst your nostalgia bubble. I get it, I liked Video Girl Ai when I was 13, but... come on. See, one of the key differences here is that a lot of people who love stuff like this may watch a lot of anime, but maybe they haven't seen many films, or read many books. Or maybe it's not about exposure, and they just don't... have the capacity to admit that garbage is garbage. Or to even recognize the difference between garbage and pulp. And for once I'm not even trying to be a dick by explaining things this way. Some people who watch anime have well-informed tastes, and some don't. I think the latter is more likely to get all crazy over mediocrity like Code Geass, Death Note, Haruhi, Elfen Lied, etc. Why hello hipster |
dpjdm said: Why hello hipster Call it whatever you want; I guess I could call you plebeian, or banal, but why should we call each other names? I like mostly metal, not Metallica more like The Black Dahlia Murder, and Trance lol |
| LOL! I like Code Gayass, even though people say it is rotten to the core. If that means I have bad taste, then so be it. |
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antitype said: dpjdm said: Why hello hipster Call it whatever you want; I guess I could call you plebeian, or banal, but why should we call each other names? I like mostly metal, not Metallica more like The Black Dahlia Murder, and Trance lol I dont get it. My whole point is that hipsters dont like popular stuff, while the 'plebeians' stick to popular stuff. They aren't all that different. |
dpjdm said: I dont get it ... I rest my case. |
antitype said: dpjdm said: I dont get it ... I rest my case. Plz explain, seroiusly, im not in my normal state of mind right now, so im very slow |
dpjdm said: Plz explain, seroiusly, im not in my normal state of mind right now, so im very slow I'm just messing with you. I'm not going to sit here and explain why I think that's funny. dpjdm said: My whole point is that hipsters dont like popular stuff, while the 'plebeians' stick to popular stuff. They aren't all that different. Oh, I almost missed your edit. See, I think you're misunderstanding how this works, and I've already kind of explained it... And see, looking over your favorites I think you actually like some really good stuff, but apparently you have this need to defend mediocrity, enough to make a thread about it, which I can't really get behind. You're raging over people who want better, and calling them "hipsters" because... you're lazy? I don't know. You tell me, man. Trolling? I probably am taking this a tiny bit too seriously, though I am trying to maintain an attitude of playfulness about it. |
antitype said: dpjdm said: My whole point is that hipsters dont like popular stuff, while the 'plebeians' stick to popular stuff. They aren't all that different. Oh, I almost missed your edit. See, I think you're misunderstanding how this works, and I've already kind of explained it... And see, looking over your favorites I think you actually like some really good stuff, but apparently you have this need to defend mediocrity, enough to make a thread about it, which I can't really get behind. You're raging over people who want better, and calling them "hipsters" because... you're lazy? I don't know. You tell me, man. Trolling? I probably am taking this a tiny bit too seriously, though I am trying to maintain an attitude of playfulness about it. But that's my point. what makes a show like haruh or code gayassi mediocre? Who has the authority to do so? You laugh and look down at people who don't watch 'good' anime, so where did you get this authority? Intellectual themes and mature themes dont make automatically an anime good, and just because it has been done a hundred times doesn't make it bad. My real problem is just how what i have called hipsters view things on some sort of scale that supposed commoners cannot understand, further more they have the audacity to go about saying things are good or bad like it is some indisputable truth. That and my main rage with hipsters is that their pseudo- intellectual thinking just seems to dominate everything, by that I mean that the smarter or, sometimes, the more mature something is it is better and others are bad. |
| I love hipsters. Their poor grasp of their own blatant irony is hilarious. Remember, we're the sheep for liking things we like, not them. No, they just hate everything that is popular or commonly liked because doing otherwise would be conforming. But seriously, there are always going to be people that believe themselves to be better than everyone else because their taste is more "developed" or whatever shit they like to spew. If you enjoy a series, enjoy it and just ignore them. We don't watch anime to one-up each other, we watch it because we love it and it's awesome. /thumbsup Also something great but not anime related: http://www.cracked.com/funny-4573-hipster/ |
misstuApr 10, 2010 8:47 PM
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Avarance said: Why do you care? Normally I wouldn't but I am drunk and high and just came back from a concert that I thought was metal but was christian metal, so everyone was preaching and that just made me confrontational. |
dpjdm said: But that's my point. what makes a show like haruh or code gayassi mediocre? Who has the authority to do so? You laugh and look down at people who don't watch 'good' anime, so where did you get this authority? Intellectual themes and mature themes dont make automatically an anime good, and just because it has been done a hundred times doesn't make it bad. My real problem is just how what i have called hipsters view things on some sort of scale that supposed commoners cannot understand, further more they have the audacity to go about saying things are good or bad like it is some indisputable truth. That and my main rage with hipsters is that their pseudo- intellectual thinking just seems to dominate everything, by that I mean that the smarter or, sometimes, the more mature something is it is better and others are bad. Haha, okay, this is a pretty pointless conversation. You sound like the typical idiot throwing around words like "hipster" and "pseudo-intellectual" because you... dpjdm said: dont get it. ellette said: I love hipsters. Their poor grasp of their own blatant irony is hilarious. Please, by all means, elaborate on this. To clarify, I don't consider myself a "hipster," but can I assume you're somewhat directing this at me in the context of this thread, or is that just a general comment? ellette said: But seriously, there are always going to be people that believe themselves to be better than everyone else because their taste is more "developed" or whatever shit they like to spew. If you enjoy a series, enjoy it and just ignore them. We don't watch anime to one-up each other, we watch it because we love it and it's awesome. /thumbsup Oh, wait, nevermind. You're on the whole nerd rage defending mediocrity bandwagon, too. Thumbs up! Pat on the back! |
| This is Spam. Quit writing paragraphs. Save it for GD. There's a difference for me between 'popular' and 'mainstream'. It's not that popular sucks. Just mainstream. That's all. |
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ycart59 said: This is Spam. Quit writing paragraphs. Save it for GD. There's a difference for me between 'popular' and 'mainstream'. It's not that popular sucks. Just mainstream. That's all. Thank you. This is correct. If ellette thought about what she was saying for more than the amount of time it takes to transfer it from her brain to the screen glowing in her face, she'd realize that her little rant about conforming is dumb and wrong, because... well, what you said. This has absolutely nothing to do with popularity. |
antitype said: Ehh, no I really wasn't. I didn't read much of the wallsoftext that were posted before me, so I don't really know what you've been defending up until now. Read the Cracked link I posted before for some elaboration on the hilarity of hipster irony if you please. It's pretty funny if you don't get all butthurt about it.ellette said: Please, by all means, elaborate on this. To clarify, I don't consider myself a "hipster," but can I assume you're somewhat directing this at me in the context of this thread, or is that just a general comment?I love hipsters. Their poor grasp of their own blatant irony is hilarious. antitype said: So saying that people should just watch what they like and ignore insults from more "intelligent" people is.."defending mediocrity?" I'm sorry I support not giving a shit what other people think, and doing things that make you yourself happy.ellette said: Oh, wait, nevermind. You're on the whole nerd rage defending mediocrity bandwagon, too.But seriously, there are always going to be people that believe themselves to be better than everyone else because their taste is more "developed" or whatever shit they like to spew. If you enjoy a series, enjoy it and just ignore them. We don't watch anime to one-up each other, we watch it because we love it and it's awesome. /thumbsup Thumbs up! Pat on the back! Wow, I must be a freaking retard. Who needs happiness when you can be superior? |
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antitype said: dpjdm said: But that's my point. what makes a show like haruh or code gayassi mediocre? Who has the authority to do so? You laugh and look down at people who don't watch 'good' anime, so where did you get this authority? Intellectual themes and mature themes dont make automatically an anime good, and just because it has been done a hundred times doesn't make it bad. My real problem is just how what i have called hipsters view things on some sort of scale that supposed commoners cannot understand, further more they have the audacity to go about saying things are good or bad like it is some indisputable truth. That and my main rage with hipsters is that their pseudo- intellectual thinking just seems to dominate everything, by that I mean that the smarter or, sometimes, the more mature something is it is better and others are bad. Haha, okay, this is a pretty pointless conversation. You sound like the typical idiot throwing around words like "hipster" and "pseudo-intellectual" because you... dpjdm said: dont get it. I do, or rather did, get it, just seeing what you would say. I don't really care if you don't consider yourself a hipster, nor do i care if you are. But it still seems you believe in the whole mediocre/good/bad thing, thus judging it on some incomprehensible scale. oh and hipster = pseudo-intellectual, most of the time. antitype said: ellette said: I love hipsters. Their poor grasp of their own blatant irony is hilarious. Please, by all means, elaborate on this. Read that cracked article and it explains it. ycart59 said: This is Spam. Quit writing paragraphs. Save it for GD. No |
antitype said: I am..amazed by how bitter you can become towards people after a couple posts that basically said "lol hipsters irony watch what you want lol." I'm sorry if I've deeply offended your pride (or whatever), but I tend to take this whole thing asycart59 said: This is Spam. Quit writing paragraphs. Save it for GD. There's a difference for me between 'popular' and 'mainstream'. It's not that popular sucks. Just mainstream. That's all. Thank you. This is correct. If ellette thought about what she was saying for more than the amount of time it takes to transfer it from her brain to the screen glowing in her face, she'd realize that her little rant about conforming is dumb and wrong, because... well, what you said. This has absolutely nothing to do with popularity. this is not srs bsns. Really. Why does it matter whether it's "mainstream" or "popular" or "unpopular" or "fucking retarded?" If someone likes it, why should they "not" like it because it's any of those things? Jesus. |
misstuApr 10, 2010 9:13 PM
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Avarance said: What's a hipster by the way? No one really knows |
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ellette said: Wow, I must be a freaking retard. Who needs happiness when you can be superior? It's really not about that, and you're the only one (aside from dpjdm, maybe) insinuating that this is the case. I mean, yes, sometimes I may act condescending toward people that I think have shitty tastes, especially if they're all uppity about it, but my interest in developing my particular tastes (or whatever, I guess that's just "spew" to you) arises from... well, the desire that is set in motion by constantly craving new and fresh things. You can see my profile if you want a summary of my personal tastes, and maybe read my Elfen Lied review, and that'll give you some idea of why I think anime like that is shit. It doesn't start with a desire to be "superior" or some bullshit like that. We're just talking about anime, or perhaps on a broader scale art in general. I think 2001: A Space Odyssey is a better movie than, uh... Dude, Where's My Car. Do I have to play nice with everyone who likes fucking stupid shit like that? I mean, hey, you you wanna like stupid shit and group hug with everyone else who does, too, then knock yourself out. You're probably better than that, but whatever. dpjdm said: But it still seems you believe in the whole mediocre/good/bad thing, thus judging it on some incomprehensible scale. oh and hipster = pseudo-intellectual, most of the time. This is where I think you're going wrong, acting like anyone really believes there's some completely objective scale of bad/good. There is no incomprehensible scale, unless you can't make sense of the guilty "hipster's" tastes. Maybe you should try asking them why they like what they like, or don't like what they don't like, instead of just raging and rrrrggh PSUEDO-INTTALLACTUALS etc ellette said: this is not srs bsns. Really. Okay, whatever, internet memes aside you can take this as seriously or unseriously as you want. I'm trying to be somewhat constructive here. |
zenoslimeApr 10, 2010 9:18 PM
ellette said: this is not srs bsns. Really. Also, once more. This is Spam. Everything is srs bsns. |
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| hey assholes, your taste in anime sucks. that's right, i said it |
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leopardskin said: hey assholes, your taste in anime sucks. that's right, i said it I like you |
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antitype said: Okay..now I'm feeling like we're arguing about two different things. You're completely free to think that one anime is better than another..Everyone does that. If not, rating systems like we have here would be pointless. I have several anime I've seen that I think are bad, and I could sit down with someone and say "here's why." That's personal opinion, and freaking human nature.ellette said: Wow, I must be a freaking retard. Who needs happiness when you can be superior? It's really not about that, and you're the only one (aside from dpjdm, maybe) insinuating that this is the case. I mean, yes, sometimes I may act condescending toward people that I think have shitty tastes, especially if they're all uppity about it, but my interest in developing my particular tastes (or whatever, I guess that's just "spew" to you) arises from... well, the desire that is set in motion by constantly craving new and fresh things. You can see my profile if you want a summary of my personal tastes, and maybe read my Elfen Lied review, and that'll give you some idea of why I think anime like that is shit. It doesn't start with a desire to be "superior" or some bullshit like that. We're just talking about anime, or perhaps on a broader scale art in general. I think 2001: A Space Odyssey is a better movie than, uh... Dude, Where's My Car. Do I have to bplay nice with everyone who likes fucking stupid shit like that? I mean, hey, you you wanna like stupid shit and group hug with everyone else who does, too, then knock yourself out. You're probably better than that, but whatever. What I've been talking about is when you move from "this is my opinion" to "this is my opinion, and of course I am right and you are wrong, because I have better taste than you do, retard." This is the stereotypical "hipster" talk (I'm starting to despise that word). Like you said, you have acted condescendingly towards someone for liking a series you deemed "shitty." That's what I don't get. So again, people who are bothered by others who insult them because they like Naruto or whatever, just ignore it and move on with your lives. I don't know why this makes me want to group hug with everyone, but that's how I feel. I don't think it's so crazy to think you should keep on liking what you like instead of trying to change your opinions because someone told you they're "wrong." Also, this is pretty off topic but: if Naruto/Code Geass/etc are the shitty mainstream series, which ones are the "actual" good ones? |
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antitype said: dpjdm said: But it still seems you believe in the whole mediocre/good/bad thing, thus judging it on some incomprehensible scale. oh and hipster = pseudo-intellectual, most of the time. This is where I think you're going wrong, acting like anyone really believes there's some completely objective scale of bad/good. There is no incomprehensible, unless you can't make sense of the guilty "hipster's" tastes. Maybe you should try asking them why they like what they like, or don't like what they don't like, instead of just raging and rrrrggh PSUEDO-INTTALLACTUALS etc I'm a little more sober, thus am thinking clearer, so now I will try to explain it a little better. I am not accusing hipsters on believing they have an objective scale of good/bad, you should be able to see this. I used the word incomprehensible in the wrong situation, I stand back at what I said about hipsters liking 'intellectual and mostly mature' themes/culture. There in lies why I think hipsters are pseudo-intellectuals, because they usually like intellectual themes and belittle(through judgment) everything else they think is stupid. Another sign of a pseudo-intellectual is the desire of wanting to be right, personally I could give a fuck if I personally am right or wrong, but their desire to be right based on the previously mentioned examples bugs me. To make it clear I am not calling you an hipster, but so far your argument has been constructed to defend parts of hipster belief, thus explaining why I am arguing in the first place. On a final note when I am completely sober I will stop giving a shit, and probably stop talking about this. |
| Also: Getting all preachy and contributing tl;dr posts to this topic is just too good to pass up (spam or not). It's my first online debate. My virginity has been taken. 8D |
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ellette said: This is the stereotypical "hipster" talk (I'm starting to despise that word). Elitist is a better word than "hipster." Call me an elitist, and I'll be just fine with that. Good times. ellette said: Also, this is pretty off topic but: if Naruto/Code Geass/etc are the shitty mainstream series, which ones are the "actual" good ones? Ehhh, this obviously varies with personal taste. You're still assuming anyone here thinks this can be answered objectively. I have my favorites, but you're right, that's not entirely relevant here. Again, just take a look at my profile if you're curious. As an aside, I think TTGL was one of the best and most fun anime of the last 5 years, even if I do have my own criticisms for it. But I consider it to be in a totally different league from Code Geass... and generally, I don't go around saying to people, "OMG you like Code Geass, you fucking retard." If someone says they think Elfen Lied is a masterpiece I... might do that. Haha. But as you say, let 'em do whatever, I'm not expecting to change anyone's opinions... |
| I can't think of anything popular that I hate, well actually i thought of 4 while i was writing that. But anyway I only dislike people who like the band of seven era inuyasha episodes. If they like bad things its their problem and i'm content with that |
antitype said: Call me an elitist, and I'll be just fine with that. Good times. Elitist according to wiki: a select group of people with, intellect, wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes. Therefore hipster isn't an elitist. Before you call into question my experience with hipsters, I live in Austin. nuff said |
antitype said: Well now you're being too amiable to properly quarrel with /SIGHellette said: This is the stereotypical "hipster" talk (I'm starting to despise that word). Elitist is a better word than "hipster." Call me an elitist, and I'll be just fine with that. Good times. ellette said: Also, this is pretty off topic but: if Naruto/Code Geass/etc are the shitty mainstream series, which ones are the "actual" good ones? Ehhh, this obviously varies with personal taste. You're still assuming anyone here thinks this can be answered objectively. I have my favorites, but you're right, that's not entirely relevant here. Again, just take a look at my profile if you're curious. As an aside, I think TTGL was one of the best and most fun anime of the last 5 years, even if I do have my own criticisms for it. But I consider it to be in a totally different league from Code Geass... and generally, I don't go around saying to people, "OMG you like Code Geass, you fucking retard." If someone says they think Elfen Lied is a masterpiece I... might do that. Haha. But as you say, let 'em do whatever, I'm not expecting to change anyone's opinions... I guess my debate virginity was taken sweetly, not hard and rough. :} orz |
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ellette said: Well now you're being too amiable to properly quarrel with /SIGH I guess my debate virginity was taken sweetly, not hard and rough. :} You're 16, I could get into trouble if I'm too rough. :O Sincerely though, I just think it's cool if people want to have a higher standard of taste for themselves. So regarding what you said about happiness vs. superiority, this is definitely about me making myself happy. The derisive comments I throw around are just... whatever, you know? If anyone's really upset about it, they're probably not so happy with what they like. |
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