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Dec 19, 2023 9:18 AM
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i know a part of audience is always dragging it for its choppy animation and i cannot help but ...agree with them
well technically its the inconsistency in the animation and art style whatever they are doing i dont know, i am dumb but its kind of like an eyesore...
like the Choso episode, choso was all shining and shimmering and then in the Sukuna episode, Megumi looked almost like some character from Tatami Galaxy ... (even tatami galaxy was neat-er)



the sudden drop in the quality of the art and animation is very idk uncomfy -
let me know if i am just being a critic or perhaps my words do have some reason





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Dec 19, 2023 9:24 AM
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nah it looks amazing. hard disagree
Dec 19, 2023 9:27 AM
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I mean... The reason for many cuts looking different is because of the freedom of artistic expression given to the animators.
Dec 19, 2023 9:36 AM
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You’re trying too “hard”
If you can’t enjoy this show because you’re THAT focused on the animation then 1.) you’re focusing on the wrong thing and 2.) that’s a you problem.
Dec 19, 2023 9:39 AM
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both these shots look epic though.
it's not bad animation or art more like artistic freedom to the episode directors.
Dec 19, 2023 9:40 AM
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soniyay said:
i know a part of audience is always dragging it for its choppy animation and i cannot help but ...agree with them
well technically its the inconsistency in the animation and art style whatever they are doing i dont know, i am dumb but its kind of like an eyesore...
like the Choso episode, choso was all shining and shimmering and then in the Sukuna episode, Megumi looked almost like some character from Tatami Galaxy ... (even tatami galaxy was neat-er)



the sudden drop in the quality of the art and animation is very idk uncomfy -
let me know if i am just being a critic or perhaps my words do have some reason

WHAT THE HELL YOU WAFFLING ABOUT!? The animation is stylistic and CLEAN AS HELL!
WHO THE HELL CARES! 🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕🖕
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Dec 19, 2023 9:42 AM
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soniyay said:
i know a part of audience is always dragging it for its choppy animation and i cannot help but ...agree with them
well technically its the inconsistency in the animation and art style whatever they are doing i dont know, i am dumb but its kind of like an eyesore...
like the Choso episode, choso was all shining and shimmering and then in the Sukuna episode, Megumi looked almost like some character from Tatami Galaxy ... (even tatami galaxy was neat-er)



the sudden drop in the quality of the art and animation is very idk uncomfy -
let me know if i am just being a critic or perhaps my words do have some reason

I agree. The choppy animation that keeps on changing fluidity, contrast, shading, detail etc make it a hard watch. The fights are so so hard to follow. It’s so hard to understand when and where they reached, what is happening etc.
S1 did it well as the art was more pronounced, edges sharp and crisp. We were able to tell who is going where punching who etc.
this season it has been impossible.

The 2 pics you shared they look so good. But then the fight with mahoraga was imp to follow.
It’s already confusing the story and then this.

Still a good anime.
Dec 19, 2023 9:44 AM
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nah it looks amazing. hard disagree

GRIPPING ABOUT ANIMATION LIKE CRAZY, IT'S SO UNREAL TO ME IT'S SO CRINGE! I mean is MAL becoming Twitter!? 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
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Dec 19, 2023 10:10 AM
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it was a change in animation style to make it more fluid.... quality is not degrading
Dec 19, 2023 10:14 AM
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V1P3R0P said:
I mean... The reason for many cuts looking different is because of the freedom of artistic expression given to the animators.

"freedom to the animators" this is mappa were talking about, there is no freedom
Dec 19, 2023 10:27 AM
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This happened with naruto vs pain fight as well i liked it very much it was in a wider landscape fluid animation was apt and i could actually understand what was happening while in jjk s2 I'm kinda lost on what the characters are doing in fight seq . Idk if it's because it's incomplete or they've overdone it or maybe it's because of low lighting
Dec 19, 2023 10:28 AM
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don't listen to the jjk dickriders. the animation is really good but it's not perfect, and that's not even mentioning the story
Dec 19, 2023 10:49 AM
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please pull through this batch the end episodes are so good I can't even tell you
Dec 19, 2023 10:50 AM
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don't listen to the jjk dickriders. the animation is really good but it's not perfect, and that's not even mentioning the story
@ratliker63 You have undead unluck as a 10 I think you should calm yourself before critiquing others opinions.
Dec 19, 2023 10:52 AM
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Every episode has a different director with different animators following their storyboards and corrections. Any change you might find in art style is a conscious choice rather than a "degradation" in animation, lol.
Dec 19, 2023 10:59 AM
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oh boy here come the jjk defenders
Dec 19, 2023 11:01 AM
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psykixk said:
@ratliker63 You have undead unluck as a 10 I think you should calm yourself before critiquing others opinions.

it has smoother animation and a better story than anything in JJK. as a manga reader for both, Undead Unluck completely mogs jjk in every way
Dec 19, 2023 11:08 AM
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I can't believe how hard some fans are crying over your response. I get what you mean. The animation and visuals just aren't as good as the S1 and nothing's changing my mind on that. S1 for me was perfect in every aspect. I also watched it again when S2 was on break before the shibuya incident arc started. So my memories are very fresh. As a normal viewer I can just say by looking at both the seasons that which one looks better. S2 definitely has a downgrade from S1.

But, that doesn't mean that S2 is bad at all. It just isn't as good as S1. The main problem with S2 is the inconsistency, because there are some eps that go very hard. But then, again the art looks incomplete or the animation gets a bit choppy. Again it gets a bit better.It just keeps happening. And again it isn't bad or unwatchable, I still had fun watching the eps.

The whole reason for this is that the staff are working in really really bad conditions. I mean they delivered in S1 so why couldn't they do it again? I get that there was a change in art style in S2, but it didn't affect anything at all. Because the hidden inventory arc was clean af. It was as good as S1 for me. The problems started since the shibuya arc. The hidden inventory was also as perfect as S1. So the change in art style definitely isn't the issue.

As we all know, the staff is literally working in hell conditions. They said themselves, that because of the shit schedule, they can't provide the quality they want to. That's the reason we sometimes see incomplete drawings and all. Even after this the animation still looks pretty good.

When the hell will Mappa understand man...There's no fuckin way they are gonna surpass KyoAni and Ufotable as the CEO wants to,if they keep overworking the staff to death. I feel so bad that they started working because of their passion and now are stuck in these awful conditions.

Anyways, overall, S2 is sometimes really really good, most of the time inconsistent and 1-2 times some scenes I thought were not good.And a step down from S1. But the animation is still good that the show isn't just watchable but also enjoyable.

I don't believe if some people think that the show is unwatchable because of the animation. That's just going too far, because this season isn't unwatchable.
Dec 19, 2023 12:04 PM
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soniyay said:
i know a part of audience is always dragging it for its choppy animation and i cannot help but ...agree with them
well technically its the inconsistency in the animation and art style whatever they are doing i dont know, i am dumb but its kind of like an eyesore...
like the Choso episode, choso was all shining and shimmering and then in the Sukuna episode, Megumi looked almost like some character from Tatami Galaxy ... (even tatami galaxy was neat-er)



the sudden drop in the quality of the art and animation is very idk uncomfy -
let me know if i am just being a critic or perhaps my words do have some reason

as someone mentioned here the change in the "art style" and "animation style" is due to the artistic freedom given to the animators and also the theme and the scale of the episode the choso episode was relatively smaller scale compared to the sukuna mahoraga episode in terms of destruction ,chaos and "heaviness" of events. if you want to convey and more destructive and chaotic fight in a weekly anime ofc you need to cut down the shininess (idk if dis is a word but ye) of the characters to better make their movements fluid and the same goes for the scenery.
Dec 19, 2023 12:04 PM
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psykixk said:
@ratliker63 You have undead unluck as a 10 I think you should calm yourself before critiquing others opinions.

it has smoother animation and a better story than anything in JJK. as a manga reader for both, Undead Unluck completely mogs jjk in every way
@ratliker63 keep coping, is that why it has gained absolutely nothing from the adaptation and is on the verge of getting axed even though it has close to 200 chapters?
Dec 19, 2023 12:21 PM
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he lay out a trap and we fell for it, just as planned
Dec 19, 2023 1:10 PM
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psykixk said:
@ratliker63 keep coping, is that why it has gained absolutely nothing from the adaptation and is on the verge of getting axed even though it has close to 200 chapters?

it's absolutely gained from the adaptation; the animation in undead Unluck is beautiful. the episode with Gina is one of the best episodes of anime produced this year. and where did you hear that it was getting axed? the story still has a good year or two before it could realistically finish.
Dec 19, 2023 1:21 PM
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psykixk said:
@ratliker63 keep coping, is that why it has gained absolutely nothing from the adaptation and is on the verge of getting axed even though it has close to 200 chapters?

Idk why you even bring up Undead Unluck in this, and to top it off you yap some bs saying it’s close to being axed lol. Do better.
Dec 19, 2023 1:25 PM
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@ratliker63 keep coping, is that why it has gained absolutely nothing from the adaptation and is on the verge of getting axed even though it has close to 200 chapters?

it's absolutely gained from the adaptation; the animation in undead Unluck is beautiful. the episode with Gina is one of the best episodes of anime produced this year. and where did you hear that it was getting axed? the story still has a good year or two before it could realistically finish.
@ratliker63 it gained literally 0 momentum from the anime whether you like it or not. I never said anything about the quality of the anime which maybe is a testament to how shitty the original story is. anyway, the whole of hidden inventory + episode 7, 9, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20 are better "produced" than undead.
Dec 19, 2023 1:29 PM
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thats just a difference in art style. and it fits the situation perfectly in my opinion.

you have a few shots of yuji in this style and its always when he is in despair or something similar
Dec 19, 2023 1:43 PM
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the same fucking thread again
Dec 19, 2023 2:10 PM
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psykixk said:
@ratliker63 it gained literally 0 momentum from the anime whether you like it or not. I never said anything about the quality of the anime which maybe is a testament to how shitty the original story is. anyway, the whole of hidden inventory + episode 7, 9, 13, 16, 17, 19, 20 are better "produced" than undead.

if you mean in terms of popularity, then you're still wrong. I've seen a good uptick in discussion about the manga and people wanting to get into it after the anime began
Dec 19, 2023 2:38 PM
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Yeah its really bad. Season 1 was so much better. I know the jjk dickriders is gonna cry blasphemy. The animation is so choppy and weird and the artstyle is not the jjk feel.
Dec 19, 2023 2:52 PM

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soniyay said:
i know a part of audience is always dragging it for its choppy animation and i cannot help but ...agree with them
well technically its the inconsistency in the animation and art style whatever they are doing i dont know, i am dumb but its kind of like an eyesore...
like the Choso episode, choso was all shining and shimmering and then in the Sukuna episode, Megumi looked almost like some character from Tatami Galaxy ... (even tatami galaxy was neat-er)



the sudden drop in the quality of the art and animation is very idk uncomfy -
let me know if i am just being a critic or perhaps my words do have some reason

Im fan of jjk but ngl yeah this season has dipped in animation quality other ppl might say otherwise bc they’re just blind or in denial. also for those idiots that might say something, just because I think the animation dipped in quality doesn’t mean that it’s impossible to watch, there is mixed feelings about it tho. Also you can’t even deny that they dipped in quality even the animators have stepped out to say that they weren’t able to animate this the way they wanted to (which is the best quality) because they had a tight schedule and everything had to be done at a certain time. If that doesn’t tell you how corrupt the industry is then idk what does. MAPPA isn’t the same as they used to be 3-6 years ago. Mappa fell off and it’s because having 3-4 series done in a span of a year is absurd and mappa should’ve just taken their time to make these projects better.
Dec 19, 2023 3:31 PM
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I like it. Art style changes all the time in some fights, just like animation. Compare the animation of Yuji and Nanami vs Mahito in season 1 to Yuji and Todo vs Hanami. Some parts of the animation and style of Yuji and Todo is drastically different to the consistent animation and art of Yuji and Nanami vs Mahito.
Dec 19, 2023 3:33 PM
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JJK an EYESORE??? I’ve heard it all now hahaha
Dec 19, 2023 3:37 PM
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If you think Jjk has "choppy" animation, then I wonder how you manage to watch any other anime without thinking the animation is trash.
Also, fluid animation > characters looking like the key visuals every frame but it's a slideshow.

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Dec 19, 2023 4:24 PM
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idk looks pretty good to me
Dec 19, 2023 4:38 PM
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I think it's pretty good even though I'm not a jjk fan.
Dec 19, 2023 8:11 PM

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try wayching any other anime, then come back to jjk, i doubt youll think jjk is a hard watch because of the animation after.
Dec 19, 2023 9:04 PM
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try wayching any other anime, then come back to jjk, i doubt youll think jjk is a hard watch because of the animation after.
@1crusty i love jjk that's why it's hard, it had one of the most articulate looking animation, style, etc but in s2 its very inconsistent... it's not bad, its just bad when compared to jjk itself





baby, you're the devil i know
better than the devil i don't
maybe i could stop, but i won't
'cause, baby, you're the devil i know
Dec 19, 2023 9:39 PM

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I rate the series 8-10/10. And the animation sucks ass recently.

Have you guys already forgotten about the apology letter? Defending this is not a good idea if you call yourself a fan...

"Jujutsu Kaisen animator Hokuto Sadamoto posts an apology for subpar animation in latest episode, but fans blame MAPPA's working conditions"

Hope they rework half of season 2 for the Blu-ray.
Dec 19, 2023 9:55 PM

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I guess some people prefer beautiful visuals over smooth animation with a lot of movement. I like s2 more because of this new style of animation, jjk is an action anime after all.

But damn I see people saying “animation sucks ass”. Its like you guys are trolling or watched the series with the eyes closed
Dec 19, 2023 10:12 PM
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There wasn't any drop in quality of the art in those examples you made, it was pure animation at its peak with refined, detailed and stylized art wherever you looked at, with a little bit of kagenashi here and there, that i don't mind and i actually love, do you know how hard is it to express volume without shadows? As an artist i can appreaciate all those small details and the work as a whole, even though, don't you think it's a little bit too late to make that statement? Like, if you are up to date the current episode is the 21th, why even bother whining and crying over 10/10 work bc you didn't like a frame or smthn at this point.
Dec 19, 2023 10:29 PM
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but there is literally a light in the background that creates that "shimmering" you speak of. there is going to be a bit of a difference between an image that's being illuminated by light and one that is done entirely in the dark
Dec 20, 2023 9:19 AM
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soniyay said:
i know a part of audience is always dragging it for its choppy animation and i cannot help but ...agree with them
well technically its the inconsistency in the animation and art style whatever they are doing i dont know, i am dumb but its kind of like an eyesore...
like the Choso episode, choso was all shining and shimmering and then in the Sukuna episode, Megumi looked almost like some character from Tatami Galaxy ... (even tatami galaxy was neat-er)



the sudden drop in the quality of the art and animation is very idk uncomfy -
let me know if i am just being a critic or perhaps my words do have some reason

they let the artists do ehat they want with it, the choppiness to several fights is also not an error but an artistic choice, its not even "bad" its just another way to show speed and impact
Dec 20, 2023 11:05 AM
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simp pfp detected opinion rejected ☠️
Dec 20, 2023 11:22 AM
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Then stop watching it my guy, nobody's forcing you to do it. Move on.
Dec 20, 2023 12:37 PM
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Dumb take man.One piece also has that same style and people are saying that it is better than demon slayer.This style is incredible.
Dec 20, 2023 1:10 PM
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Same I noticed this after finishing episode 18 you can see a noticeable drop in everything across the board which is really sad to see, however that being said I still found these recent episodes to be as enjoyable as the earlier episodes of the Shibuya arc.
Dec 20, 2023 3:31 PM
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buggin both scenes looked sick
Dec 20, 2023 6:37 PM

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@1crusty i love jjk that's why it's hard, it had one of the most articulate looking animation, style, etc but in s2 its very inconsistent... it's not bad, its just bad when compared to jjk itself
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Completely fair, its hardly the animators faults though. (Animation is still really good tho)
Dec 20, 2023 11:11 PM
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I AGREEE!!! The animation change is genuinely making me lose interest. The art style changes so much that it's just very uncomfortable and weird. You are not alone in this!!
Dec 20, 2023 11:13 PM
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soniyay said:
i know a part of audience is always dragging it for its choppy animation and i cannot help but ...agree with them
well technically its the inconsistency in the animation and art style whatever they are doing i dont know, i am dumb but its kind of like an eyesore...
like the Choso episode, choso was all shining and shimmering and then in the Sukuna episode, Megumi looked almost like some character from Tatami Galaxy ... (even tatami galaxy was neat-er)



the sudden drop in the quality of the art and animation is very idk uncomfy -
let me know if i am just being a critic or perhaps my words do have some reason

I agree. The choppy animation that keeps on changing fluidity, contrast, shading, detail etc make it a hard watch. The fights are so so hard to follow. It’s so hard to understand when and where they reached, what is happening etc.
S1 did it well as the art was more pronounced, edges sharp and crisp. We were able to tell who is going where punching who etc.
this season it has been impossible.

The 2 pics you shared they look so good. But then the fight with mahoraga was imp to follow.
It’s already confusing the story and then this.

Still a good anime.

I strongly AGREEEEE
Dec 21, 2023 7:48 AM
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you do realize theres different animators animating right? its not going to just stick with one style.
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