Paul vs Eris who would win?

mechian said:


No, he stated in the novel that Rudeus was holding back and would've destroyed him if they kept on going.

Even in the manga, Paul couldn't fight a C-rank monster that Eris can one-shot.

Eris would definitely win.

NhtDesu said:
As you may know Eris hate Paul for mistreated Rudy, what if there is no Ruijerd to stop her and she end up fighting Paul. Would she beat Paul or Paul would easily fend her off ?

P/s: Little bit of information Paul currently is Advance in 3 sword style while Eris would be Advanced Sword God, and Intermediate/Advanced North God but she had beastly strength and have been taught by Ghislane and Ruijerd.

Edit: I want to make some adustment to balance the scale. Paul would still be drunk, Eris had learned about Paul swordstyle and had a first strike.

Conceptualhero said:


Can you post the source for this statement?

_afk_ said:
Paul has more experiences (longer time as adventurer, and also Advanced in all three styles) while Eris is only Advanced in Sword God Style.

In a serious fight, Paul can beat Eris and Rudeus.

Ruijerd is stronger than Paul because Ruijerd has more experiences and also Superd race is a warrior race, thus Ruijerd might be even stronger power-wise as well.



Also don't take manga seriously. It shows Paul struggling with a B ranked monster (though a drunkard might be) and Geese a combative type when Geese is not.

NhtDesu said:
There're 3 things you wrong:
1. Paul can't defeat Rudeus even if he want to source material had already stated that Paul go all in but still lose to Rudeus and that Rudeus didn't even serious about that (No one in Paul's team suffered serious injured when they fight Rudeus)
2.Eris can still one shot Paul if she strike first the author had confirmed this
3. The author hate the idea who is stronger than whom so when he write MT combatants it's usually revolve around circumstances not power level. But imo I think both Ghislaine and Ruijerd is the same power scale

_afk_ said:


1. What in the LN, from my interpretation, is under Paul's perspective. Having an inferiority complex, I believe Paul was underestimating himself and also overestimating Rudeus (obviously).

What is portrayed constantly in the novel is that Rudeus is a pacifist and he lacks battle awareness and readiness, especially this early in the novel. There is no way that Paul would lose to Rudeus if both are serious. Paul is Advanced in Water God Style, and as I said, this gives him a lot of advantages over Rudeus (and also Eris). Also you can write off his battle experience either. Rudeus is still lacking in this department.

2. You read the author wrong. This is what he said (using DeepL translation from the screenshot above):


As you can see, the author said that if Paul could calmly avoid the first blow then Paul wins. This also means if Eris's first hit can connect, Eris wins, but you have to take account of experience and skillsets that both swordsmen possess.

Eris is a 13 years old girl and Advanced Sword God practitioner. Even though she passed a year in Demon Continent that is probably not enough compared to Paul who has years of adventuring. Also, Eris so far is not shown to be as experienced in fighting other humans. She is a genius and probably stronger than Paul power-wise, but power is not everything.

Paul, on the other hand, is a seasoned veteran, and an Advanced in all three styles. Water God Style counters Sword God Style thus in term of skillsets Paul already has more advantage. So the IF is skewed more toward Paul's side more than Eris's.




3. That, I can agree, but here I am talking about all of combat aspects (skillset, experience, power, etc.). Giving how few we see both in a fight, it is tough to see who is stronger, but I'd tilt toward Ruijerd for the sheer amount of experience and racial ability he has.

NhtDesu said:


Rudeus is a Pacifist and a bit naive but he isn't lack battle awareness bruh it's the opposite he very good at reading battle situation. At the beginning when they got kidnapped instead of head straight to get Eris he shoot fireball to signal someone come help then he quickly neutralize two thug and keep distance, it's definately not an act that one lack battle awareness would do. Rudeus was acknowledged by Ghislane in LN but anime they skipped it. And inferiority complex or not he did go all in with his team and all he can do it cut the panties off not to mention it happen inside a house which mean limited space to move around Paul clearly had the advantage but he lose the moment the strike missed !! Water God Style for defeating Rudy? Don't make me laugh man when you using that style you basically stay in one place that's a downside of that styles. So you want to keep distance with a fuckin mage !?

Ok I admitted that the second phrase a bit wrong but I was trying to say that "Eris can oneshot Paul if the first strike hit"

P/s: Rudeus if serious can nuke Paul to the after life bruh you'll soon find out in turning point 2.