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Nov 27, 2020 5:53 PM
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Answering this as someone who recently watched the show for the very first time with no previous spoilers.



What I liked about Death Note for the first half of the series is that it felt like a legit psychological thriller. It was an intense game of cat and mouse between Light and L, a race to see who could get one step ahead of the other.

really changed the tone of the show for me, and not in a good way. It made Light seem all-powerful, invincible - and before you get onto me about this, yes I understand that it’s written that way because with the power of Kira he’s supposed to be godlike. But not having any opposition good enough to take him down really made the show boring and lopsided to me.

Nor am I a fan of Mello and Near... I agree with some of the others that have said those two seemed like they were introduced only to be worse versions of L, not nearly as interesting or likable, and only half as clever. The latter arc of the show felt rushed - and no wonder; when you introduce a bunch of new characters more than halfway through the series, there’s only so much backstory and character development you can get into before your time runs out.

I truly enjoyed the first part of the series and found myself eager to watch the next episode every time I finished one, but the latter part of it just left me disappointed and unsatisfied.
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Nov 30, 2020 1:02 AM
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First off, character morality is irrelevant to me. Thus, I prefer villains to heroes in most stories because where the villain has an interesting backstory and motives, the hero usually just coasts on "I'm the good guy. Like me.".
Secondly, I really don't like when a character doesn't do something that's blindingly obvious (especially when that goes against what he has been doing the whole time).
For me characters in DN go like this: Light >= L >>>>> others. So I like Light more but that's because of my bias. I think L is an equally well written character.
Now that that's out of the way, I think the anime was nearly perfect until ep 25. The whole episode felt off to me. It was pretty obvious L was gonna die. However the feet stuff was really weird (I get the symbolism but still) and the death was really underwhelming. All that mental combat between L and Light, only for a very boring Rem to finish it randomly. I understand it was to protect Misa, but the whole episode felt abrupt and random.
Futher on, Near and Mello were awful characters (note: I HATE most kid characters):
I visibly cringed every time I saw Mello bite the (almost) always new chocolate bar. I couldn't take anything he did seriously. Every scene was like "oh god, what is this cringelord gonna do now... Lemme guess: *chomp*"
Near was literally L but a lot worse in every way. Where L's deductions felt realistic and very smart, Near's felt as if he pulled them out of his ass or just stated the obvious. Where L despite how smart he was, was never sure of anything, Near just goes 100% on a blind guess.
These 2 characters ruined the 2nd part of Death Note for me. It felt like a 5yr old took the script and went: "omg, let's add a very cool character like Mello and uh... I can't think of anything else, add L again but move by 1 letter in the alphabet so it's different". Like how bad do you have to be to make the exact same type of character after the first one's death to be the main adversary.
The policemen also changed for the worse. The new art style/lack of budget takes a chunk of the blame for this, they all started looking the same to me. I didn't even notice how the 1 irrelevant cop guy even appeared on the show. Before they all didn't really care about L blaming Light. But now suddenly they were all suspicious despite the very good plan by Light, of making his dad see him as a non-DN user. That whole event with his dad was treated as pretty much totally irrelevant when determining whether to trust Light or not. Finally, Matsuda acted out of character at 37 IMO. More on that later.
The Shinigami pretty much vanished from relevancy. The new duder was the most irrelevant thing ever to happen.
There were some good parts in the 2nd half: Teru Mikami was a great character with a cool backstory, cops shooting Mello's friend was pretty shocking, Light's plan at ep 36 was pretty cool... however ep 37 was pretty much the worst possible episode:
So it starts with probably the most boring twist ever:
"I made a false page on exactly that date." (interesting)
"I knew about that and had Mikami study it with a microscope *flashback to Mikami's phone call*" (very cool)
"I knew that you knew!" (... really... Regardless of all the logical inconsistencies that were brought up hundreds of times here... this just felt flat and boring)
The biggest problem with the episode is that a character(Near), that's clearly an inferior character to L AND is a complete (and bad) copy of him AND that you only see for less than an 8th of the time you see L - defeats the main character of the franchise. Ugh.
People say Matsuda shooting at Light was a good moment... honestly I thought that moment was terrible. He was the one who always has doubts about his job. Now if Matsuda started shooting everyone else because he joined Light, THAT would've been a cool moment and it would align with his character way more.
However. I had no problems with Light acting how he did (his speach and him going crazy). That was fitting, IMO. However it was painfully obvious they ran out of money by the end. The running/flailing for what felt like at least a minute was the biggest slap in the face moment. It was surreal. I thought I was watching a bad fanfic where I get gnomed at the end (look up "you've been gnomed" if you don't understand).
Finally Light's death scene was awful. Compare this https://youtu.be/U5Gbuouksx0?t=156 to this https://youtu.be/Y5ZOQ4s6akY?t=86 (JJBA part 1 spoilers). JJBA director was like "ok, this shot has to be really good". DN director: "Yeah, this'll do": https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/421269529302269954/782664614864486440/unknown.png
My wife HATED the ending (as did I). Again. Up to ep 25 we both thought it was amainzg. Ep 24 was one of the best episodes I've ever seen. The music fit perfectly (I'm a big music guy).
How I would've changed it without going into details -
1. Make EP 24 - EP 25 feel more connected.
2. Make Light be the one to kill L. (L can still act weird, that was fine if he knew this was his last day - the day he and his only friend die and L wins)
3. Make that be L's trap.
4. Make Light's dad be the one to capture Light due to L's trap
5. Make Light go on the same tirade and have Light's dad say Near's lines.
There. Perfect anime.
Dec 1, 2020 8:29 AM
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Because apparently Near was 'lucky' and Light 'should have won' (words by Light fans) but really, Near actually got help from L and Mello and basically everyone. He deserved to win no matter what.
Dec 1, 2020 8:42 AM

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as someone who read the manga and watched the anime, the anime adaptation definitly butchered it a bit. it needed a lot more time and respect, and the ending should not have been altered. i prefered the second half in the manga but in the anime it is medicore at best
Dec 1, 2020 11:44 AM

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It did not feel the same and it got boring after when L died. L was just a fantastic character. Near was like a weird emotionless character like L, but there just something different about him that did not make me like him like L. And I did not expect an honors college student to get beaten by a 13-year-old.
Dec 1, 2020 1:04 PM
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I think the hate for the second half is partially justified but also partially not fair.

In my opinion, they should have made 2 Seasons instead of 1 with 37 Episodes.
Why ?
Because they took 25 to really nicely develop the battle between Light and L, yet they only had 12 episodes to try and do something close to that with near and mellow.
So half the time for double the characters, that can't work out well.

If they had 2 seasons each with 25 Episodes would have been perfect, especially because episode 26 starts with a recap of all the previous episodes, so it is the perfect episode to start a new season, and they could have fleshed everything out a lot more.

But neither part of the series was completely without flaws. Since they didn't do 2 seasons they had to rush things, Near made some huge mind-leaps to connect stuff, which felt super unnatural for a character but so did L.
Mellow was kinda useless in the whole show (at least I can't remember much of importance that he did).


These "assumed facts" are one of the reasons I personally don't like Near(and therefore the second part) as much as L (and the first part). L did it too but not as often as Near.


The second half was also slower paced than the first one. Not much happened.


Maybe it's also because people liked the grey vs grey fight more than the black vs white vs grey.

Explaining this would take quite some time, but in short:
Neither L nor Light were inherently good or bad people, so they are grey.
Near however was portrayed as good aka white (same as Lights dad was).
And Mellow was portrayed as bad aka black.

Anyway before going overboard with this, I can say I liked the first half better as well, but I don't think the second half is as bad as people make it out to be.
It is however not only 1 reason, but many that come together and make the second half a little less good.
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Imo introducing Near felt like a way for them to have a big, talked about moment with
without having to figure out what to do with the plot going forward
Jan 19, 2021 11:48 AM
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You could easily tell it was being milked and improvised after episode 25. The introduction of the new characters after that episode was completely unnecessary and the amount of random plot twists following that event and the anticlimactic ending to the story made the anime feel extremely painful to watch and empty after that. Had the anime ended at episode 26 or had a couple extra episodes following that as a resolution then I wouldn't consider the extra episodes boring.
That's just an opinion though, so don't judge.
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Hello, friends! I'm very curious, what do you think about the anime "Death Note"? I think this classic anime will always be relevant. What do you like about the story? What's your favorite character? What associations does this anime evoke? What colors is associated with this anime? I want to create a fan video on this topic, so I want to know your opinion!
Jan 21, 2021 8:06 PM

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Near and Mello suck
Jan 25, 2021 4:26 AM

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Most of the people who hate the 2nd half of Death Note just fail to understand the dynamics and themes that the story was providing.
Jan 25, 2021 4:29 AM

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It's fucking terrible,on par with Darling in the franxx and sword art online,the white boy is terrible,he is literally idiotic,how the hell he know that light is kira without evidence
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Kyrosys said:
It's fucking terrible,on par with Darling in the franxx and sword art online,the white boy is terrible,he is literally idiotic,how the hell he know that light is kira without evidence


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DemonCyborg37112 said:
Kyrosys said:
It's fucking terrible,on par with Darling in the franxx and sword art online,the white boy is terrible,he is literally idiotic,how the hell he know that light is kira without evidence





Wait its on the manga isn't it?,even when you see near biography there are 2 ending and ways
Jan 25, 2021 4:54 AM

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Kyrosys said:
DemonCyborg37112 said:





Wait its on the manga isn't it?,even when you see near biography there are 2 ending and ways


Jan 26, 2021 3:36 AM
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nishinikk said:
i've seen a lot of people saying that episode 25+ of Death Note was just bad and i understand,
but i dont think it got any worse??

i know im a bit late, talking about Death Note and stuff but i was just wondering did anyone have any opinions on this?

Mod edit: Added a spoiler tag to the title.


Trust me it's not bad nor average
It's great but not the masterpiece level of a first half

It's still a 9.5/10 second part
Jan 26, 2021 5:54 AM
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Because many things similar like first half.
In second half suspense & fight not like first half.
Personally I really like to watch Light & L rivalry.
And L give many evidence to proof light was kira.
Jan 26, 2021 9:48 PM

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nishinikk said:
i've seen a lot of people saying that episode 25+ of Death Note was just bad and i understand,
but i dont think it got any worse??

i know im a bit late, talking about Death Note and stuff but i was just wondering did anyone have any opinions on this?

Mod edit: Added a spoiler tag to the title.


Because they never got us interested in Near/Mello. L had time develop and he was the the part of initial duo. If you are bringing someone to replace L, you need a fantastic backstory, you need to focus on there motivations, how they are related to L (because they were).

You don't expect the readers to like a character who just came out of nowhere had barely 12 episodes of exposure and replaced the most liked character in the history of anime, without a good backstory, without revealing their motivations, without developing their character. You just can't.

And this is without going into any loopholes etc... Bcs let's be honest, most of us ignore them anyway if we feel the series is interesting.
So the real reason is near/Mello never got into peoples heart.

Edit: It just occured to me that Naomi Misora aka Shoko Maki (the iconic ep7, second only to potato scene) had a far better character development/motivations than Near/Mello.
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I'm sure others have already said it, but Near was a poor man's L without the charm or charisma. He also got lucky more often than not and didn't outsmart Light as often as L did. I also hated that it's implied that he cheated by using the Death Note himself to ensure that Mikami would bring the fake Death Note to the warehouse; it made his victory less satisfying despite me wanting Light to lose in the end.
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Hence, people say the show drops in quality after 20 eps +



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I like it but admittedly it's not as great without L
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Angelerator said:
Fanboys/fangirls of L get disappointed.


I like Light much better but what made the show so good was what was happening between Light and L. I still think the second half was pretty good tho just that the ending for me was worse than Erased.
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Sweet_Escape said:
I'm sure others have already said it, but Near was a poor man's L without the charm or charisma. He also got lucky more often than not and didn't outsmart Light as often as L did. I also hated that it's implied that he cheated by using the Death Note himself to ensure that Mikami would bring the fake Death Note to the warehouse; it made his victory less satisfying despite me wanting Light to lose in the end.
you said it well but you missed the point - near didn't thought about fake DN himself, if he hasn't had help for melo and mikami wouldn't mistake, he wouldn't win. but you said it well that near hasn't done nothing to win light.
i won't reply the whole quote but i will say this - the manga was much longer than 12 episodes.
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It should have ended after
died. (Story started going a bit downhill from the Yotsuba arc onwards if you ask me).

After
's death was pretty much a rehash with Near as a poor man's

Lmao. Its pretty obvious whose death you are talking about. I mean there are only 2 major characters and since the show continued after 25th episodes its obvious whom you arr talking about.
Mar 27, 2021 2:42 AM
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Angelerator said:
Fanboys/fangirls of L get disappointed.

Light is my favourite character. I didn't have much attachment with L but his rivalry with Light was fantastic. I too didn't like the 2nd half.
Mar 27, 2021 2:48 AM
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the anime in itself is not bad.....but if you read the manga then you will automatically find the difference.
when I first watched it early on, it was a masterpiece, a godsend for me.... but as I got into this manga and anime culture more and then read the manga...I understood why people call the second half kinda bad or not up to the mark.
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Arhxn2411 said:

Hence, people say the show drops in quality after 20 eps +

It wasn't just the dynamics between them. The episodes in which light get rid of the fbi agent and his wife were freaking amazing too. When light loses his memories, the show drops in quality.
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After L's death, we started getting some ridiculous action-y episodes that didn't at all feel like classic DN. That actually began with the Yotsuba arc, car chases, etc. but an episode with a "missile"? And the introduction of a mentally challenged Shinigami (Sidoh)? Come on!

It's really bad at that point and I can't help but cringe even when I watch YouTube reactors going wtf at that episode. The show redeems itself later with Mikami/Takada and the finale is very satisfyingly dark, but I still think it jumped the shark with L's death.

However, the decline in writing and plotting began earlier. When L basically cornered Light in the university by introducing himself, Light was effectively trapped and couldn't act against him. But then we had a massive deus ex machina with Misa Amane that relieved the tension and gave Light an out (he could easily confuse matters with a second Kira in the picture, which he took advantage of). So it's not all L's death, but still, at that point the series still felt familiar and good.
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A few reasons. 

The obvious one being L's death. The show lost so much of it's buzz. Watching L and Light trying to outsmart each other was the main thing that engaged me with the show, taking that away just left a massive hole. And no, you can't just throw Near in there, give him similar characteristics and expect to strike gold again. All I could think of right up until it finished was that every scene would have been better if L was there instead of Near. The only episode I really enjoyed after episode 25 was the final episode. 11 of the final 12 episodes were a slog to get through.

Other reasons.

Soichiro's death. It felt really rushed, the whole kidnapping Sayu then him blaming himself and wanting to die for it just felt really lazy. Making the eye deal with Ryuk just didn't feel in character too me. It wasn't long before this that we saw him refuse to use a gun to protect Matusda. I didn't like it. I hated how quickly his colleagues just moved on from it too, but this goes for everybody they saw die.

I also hated how little Ryuk featured. This started with Light losing his memories, but when he got them back, I was hoping Ryuk would feature a lot more. He went from the 2nd main character to a minor character. He was sidelined for everybody.

Near. I have read from others that the Anime did Near dirty compared to the Manga, but it's the Anime we are talking about here so I can only judge his character in the anime. I didn't like him. They've tried to copy a lot of L's eccentric side, but he lacks the warmth. It's hard to side with him because he comes across cold and uncaring and obnoxious. He lacked the humanity of L.

Light. I found him less and less interesting once L died. There was little to counter his smugness apart from the annoying hair curling brat above. It wasn't anywhere near as interesting though and I was more than ready for his plans to come undone by the end, he became boring.

Death Note was well on its way to becoming a 10/10 for me, which is not a number I give out often, but from episode 25 onwards, it lost its way. I almost gave it a 7, but settled at an 8 because of how enjoyable it was throughout so much of it.
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I really like deathnote overall but I do prefer the first half. L was such a charming character. Near wasn't bad but we didn't have time to build affection towards him like we did with L.
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it felt dragged out and unnecessary. plus nobody could replace L so I never cared about his generic successors trying to finish the job
@merrowgirlfriend actually the second half cut out half its respective manga content
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it felt dragged out and unnecessary. plus nobody could replace L so I never cared about his generic successors trying to finish the job
@merrowgirlfriend actually the second half cut out half its respective manga content
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