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Feb 17, 2019 6:22 AM

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ScarletCelestial said:
Just got a reply from Kaitou after pinging him five times, says he's catching up.

Why isn’t he here RN then?
Feb 17, 2019 6:23 AM

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delusionalism said:
can i have reddit upvotes for all my hard work please

Okay I’m going to strt reading what you just said
Feb 17, 2019 6:24 AM

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if i had to take a shot at sorting this playerlist

TOWN
Scarlet
litten
ici
Astros

TOWNLEAN
Karote
aadomo
sesh

???
RC
Wisp
kaitou


Scummies
seshs lover
yurkin
gwen
soda + awesome

dont think i missed anyone
Feb 17, 2019 6:26 AM

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if i look at this game im suprised nobody has bought this up yet but

if you can accurtately tr one part of a pairing we can narrow down a w/w pairing pretty easily. if i read the op correctly im pretty sure the pairings have to be one w/w, 2x 2 w/t?

so

based off my very excellent reads the only pairings i really see as being likely to be the w/w are either

Soda + Awesome (likely)
RC + Wisp (plausible)

i dont think the others are w/w due to seeing town in at least one part of the pairing

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Firekitten said:
delusionalism said:
can i have reddit upvotes for all my hard work please

Okay I’m going to strt reading what you just said

im going tpo sleep soon
Feb 17, 2019 6:27 AM

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ill be honest i havent read the past like 4 pages so if anything drastic happened there imma skim now
Feb 17, 2019 6:31 AM

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delusionalism said:
#502 – I think wisp is dismissing osies points. Their main gripe was fluff and posturing and u don't really address that in this defence.
#513 – good post by ici wrt. Gwen.
#529 – idk why ossie townleaned gwen here. I think the only points I really have towards town!gwen atp is that they seem like massive lynch bait lol… its almost like theyre begging in the thread to get wagoned. Idk. Feels too damn clean and it irks me.
#550 – this wisp post is ok. It gives a pretty clear reason to vote gwen. I do find it ironic they criticise gwen for game / mechanic spec tho.
#554 – so you scumlean soda for lurking in this post. Cool. Why soda over the other low posters here? I think awesomes entrance was a lot worse. I don't even really remember sodas entrance
#625 – this kind of reflects my game state presently at read through. Id put wisp scumlean, take my slot out obviously. Unsure on soda tbh. They feel like they've got more pressure than any other lurker at this point and it slightly irks me.
#643 – interesting case by wisp. I generally agree with all their points on gwen.not much to say here. I dislike the strongarming of ossie at the end but generally im more open to seeing town!wisp after this post
#647 – why did astros post their mafia manifesto lol
the rc vs aa /osie interactions are interesting. Rc is a player who was actually bought up in a conversation I had few people when we were discussing another forum a couple days ago, so ive got some~ handle of what theyre capable of here. not really worth commenting on the osie ones but ill say I do think osies feelings there are justified. I think dismissing what ossie is doing as something you see from ‘asshole wolves’ is painting them as pushing this when I really don't think they aren’t? like I think you’re trying to handwave their gripes with your lover as a personality conflict when that's not really what it is. I also think theres some issues with your case on dono. The figures ur using on flailing come from ms not mal. To try extrapolate them here is uh…. Interesting but I don't think they really hold out of there as im don't really know how to say this– ms is notoriously ‘different’ from other mafia communities and id be hesitant to apply them elsewhere. Aside from this, I guess dono shades wisp somewhat? But theyre also voting gwen at the same time. If they were interested in discrediting and diverting off to somewhere else why not push a counterwagon? As it stands gwen is still receiving all the pressure, not just from wisp but from the threat at large. They tr firekitten the other (id say really the main advocate and starter but semantics) of the gwen wagon in the same post you highlight as well. You’re attributing to them an agenda I don't see in their post from the rest of their actions. To insinuate that dono is attempting to push wisp into a mislynchable position from the post you quoted is also extremely ??? considering wisp hasn't had pressure from anyone except osie

theres also another point here where I u reach out to scarlet in particular for no apparent reason. Its beginning to become a trend where I cant not help but see it as potential pocketing.

I wrote too much on those posts

I agree with a lot of these posts except the early wisp scumread, but you fixed it later.
Feb 17, 2019 6:32 AM

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for whoever asked me for an opinion on my lover - i derped myself as town in our chat and then tried to make a secret deal with them as mafia promising them to win it for us if they were scum. they confided in me that they are indeed of the town alignment and hell - i believe them
Feb 17, 2019 6:32 AM

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i think the thing that stuck out to me most on reading is how often rc tries to pocket / buddy scarlet lol
Feb 17, 2019 6:33 AM

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Firekitten said:
delusionalism said:
#502 – I think wisp is dismissing osies points. Their main gripe was fluff and posturing and u don't really address that in this defence.
#513 – good post by ici wrt. Gwen.
#529 – idk why ossie townleaned gwen here. I think the only points I really have towards town!gwen atp is that they seem like massive lynch bait lol… its almost like theyre begging in the thread to get wagoned. Idk. Feels too damn clean and it irks me.
#550 – this wisp post is ok. It gives a pretty clear reason to vote gwen. I do find it ironic they criticise gwen for game / mechanic spec tho.
#554 – so you scumlean soda for lurking in this post. Cool. Why soda over the other low posters here? I think awesomes entrance was a lot worse. I don't even really remember sodas entrance
#625 – this kind of reflects my game state presently at read through. Id put wisp scumlean, take my slot out obviously. Unsure on soda tbh. They feel like they've got more pressure than any other lurker at this point and it slightly irks me.
#643 – interesting case by wisp. I generally agree with all their points on gwen.not much to say here. I dislike the strongarming of ossie at the end but generally im more open to seeing town!wisp after this post
#647 – why did astros post their mafia manifesto lol
the rc vs aa /osie interactions are interesting. Rc is a player who was actually bought up in a conversation I had few people when we were discussing another forum a couple days ago, so ive got some~ handle of what theyre capable of here. not really worth commenting on the osie ones but ill say I do think osies feelings there are justified. I think dismissing what ossie is doing as something you see from ‘asshole wolves’ is painting them as pushing this when I really don't think they aren’t? like I think you’re trying to handwave their gripes with your lover as a personality conflict when that's not really what it is. I also think theres some issues with your case on dono. The figures ur using on flailing come from ms not mal. To try extrapolate them here is uh…. Interesting but I don't think they really hold out of there as im don't really know how to say this– ms is notoriously ‘different’ from other mafia communities and id be hesitant to apply them elsewhere. Aside from this, I guess dono shades wisp somewhat? But theyre also voting gwen at the same time. If they were interested in discrediting and diverting off to somewhere else why not push a counterwagon? As it stands gwen is still receiving all the pressure, not just from wisp but from the threat at large. They tr firekitten the other (id say really the main advocate and starter but semantics) of the gwen wagon in the same post you highlight as well. You’re attributing to them an agenda I don't see in their post from the rest of their actions. To insinuate that dono is attempting to push wisp into a mislynchable position from the post you quoted is also extremely ??? considering wisp hasn't had pressure from anyone except osie

theres also another point here where I u reach out to scarlet in particular for no apparent reason. Its beginning to become a trend where I cant not help but see it as potential pocketing.

I wrote too much on those posts

I agree with a lot of these posts except the early wisp scumread, but you fixed it later.


who should i vote for
Feb 17, 2019 6:33 AM

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delusionalism said:
Firekitten said:

I agree with a lot of these posts except the early wisp scumread, but you fixed it later.


who should i vote for

Gwen tbh.
Feb 17, 2019 6:33 AM

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i think my analysis about finding w/w pairings is :eggplant:

i want more opinions on that
Feb 17, 2019 6:35 AM

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delusionalism said:
i think my analysis about finding w/w pairings is :eggplant:

i want more opinions on that


Going to be completely honest. If there’s a W/W pairing it’s awesome and soda
Feb 17, 2019 6:36 AM

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Firekitten said:
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i think my analysis about finding w/w pairings is :eggplant:

i want more opinions on that


Going to be completely honest. If there’s a W/W pairing it’s awesome and soda

i said that most likely with rc + wisp as other possibility
Feb 17, 2019 6:36 AM

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delusionalism said:
Firekitten said:


Going to be completely honest. If there’s a W/W pairing it’s awesome and soda

i said that most likely with rc + wisp as other possibility

I don’t ever believe that to be W/W tbh
Feb 17, 2019 6:38 AM

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Firekitten said:
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i said that most likely with rc + wisp as other possibility

I don’t ever believe that to be W/W tbh

i do but i admit i like to bring the spice

aadono trs both of them tho
Feb 17, 2019 6:39 AM

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me sring yurkin hinges more on what karote posted than anything yurkins done
Feb 17, 2019 6:40 AM

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vote: newg
Feb 17, 2019 6:42 AM

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now that ive done this

if we take what sesh + karote have posted about their lovers to be true

and we mutually tr astros

is gwen scum a reality?
Feb 17, 2019 6:44 AM

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delusionalism said:

now that ive done this

if we take what sesh + karote have posted about their lovers to be true

and we mutually tr astros

is gwen scum a reality?

It’s an insanely likely reality
Feb 17, 2019 6:45 AM

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Firekitten said:
delusionalism said:
i think my analysis about finding w/w pairings is :eggplant:

i want more opinions on that


Going to be completely honest. If there’s a W/W pairing it’s awesome and soda


If I remember right delusionalism is soda's substitute.
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Icibalus said:
Firekitten said:


Going to be completely honest. If there’s a W/W pairing it’s awesome and soda


If I remember right delusionalism is soda's substitute.

It’s ossie sub
Feb 17, 2019 6:46 AM

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Firekitten said:
Icibalus said:


If I remember right delusionalism is soda's substitute.

It’s ossie sub


I stand corrected, then.
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Firekitten said:
delusionalism said:

now that ive done this

if we take what sesh + karote have posted about their lovers to be true

and we mutually tr astros

is gwen scum a reality?

It’s an insanely likely reality


i admit i do find them wolfy.
Feb 17, 2019 6:47 AM

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Icibalus said:
Firekitten said:


Going to be completely honest. If there’s a W/W pairing it’s awesome and soda


If I remember right delusionalism is soda's substitute.

please read my posts
Feb 17, 2019 6:48 AM

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In any case delusionism's slots actions combined with his own actions pretty much clear him. Me and Litten had a lengthy discussion in our lover chat about it, and we concluded that I was being paranoid that Osie has the same ability at AtE that I do.
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vote count 1.5
day timer :sparkles::eyes:
with 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch

Seshmaster (3) - karote, Seshmaster , yurkin
aa-dono (3) - RadiantCowbells, Wisp, gwen
gwen (3) - icibalus, Firekitten, delusionalism

No lynch (2)- Astros, Meskonteen
yurkin (2) - Scarlet, aa-dono
firekitten (1) - Kaitou
not voting (2)- @DenjaX, @Awesome5000,

❤❤mod notes❤❤
if there is any prob with the vc, please bring it up in the lover chats or dm ^^

Feb 17, 2019 6:51 AM

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Why tf is sesh still at 3 votes
Feb 17, 2019 6:52 AM

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The good news and the bad news: I had a conversation with Kaitou. Bad news he then had to go do some errands so I'm stuck being a proxy for the thoughts he told me.

I'll catch up on the last page then I'll be paraphrasing Kaitou. I'd leave it, but I feel like he needs to be held accountable for what he says.
Feb 17, 2019 6:53 AM

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ill be really annoyed if i did all that work and you guys proxylynch me through aadono who is towny
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delusionalism said:
ill be really annoyed if i did all that work and you guys proxylynch me through aadono who is towny

We aren’t going to lynch you hopefully if the AFK people actually read Gwen’s post. I stand by that anyone reading his posts can’t come to the conclusion of him being town here.
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delusionalism said:
Icibalus said:


If I remember right delusionalism is soda's substitute.

please read my posts


I have, your points on reads often mindmeld mine (so obviously I agree with them) and when they don't they usually back up a perspective I have or had earlier in the game.

On your point about the lover pairs being used to narrow things down, I'm afraid that dosen't work. We had the option to sign up with a lover before we signed up, which technically means we could have 2 w/w pairs vs. 6 v/v pairs. It's entirely random here.
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Icibalus said:
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please read my posts


I have, your points on reads often mindmeld mine (so obviously I agree with them) and when they don't they usually back up a perspective I have or had earlier in the game.

On your point about the lover pairs being used to narrow things down, I'm afraid that dosen't work. We had the option to sign up with a lover before we signed up, which technically means we could have 2 w/w pairs vs. 6 v/v pairs. It's entirely random here.


am i mistaken when i thought that people signed up with their partner, then the rand happened?

did rand happen then people picked partners?

this part of the op confrms its not two w/w pairings at least

"Polygamist: If two or four players are alive who are all from mafia/town pairs, they will achieve a special solo win, yes, they exist :P"
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delusionalism said:
ill be really annoyed if i did all that work and you guys proxylynch me through aadono who is towny


I read your posts - I think I like them quite a bit. I'd feel that as scum you'd be trying to push Gwen or settle with Sesh's partner as they're the alternatives to awa, your partner.

I like how you've read Rad in particular, and though I don't agree with the Wisp read from his start I can see where you're coming from with it and it makes sense.

Concerning Awa, I just want her to answer my questions first before I make a more concrete decision on her alignment.

Has she happened to have elaborated on any of her reads in her chat with you at all?
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Just got a reply from Kaitou after pinging him five times, says he's catching up.

Why isn’t he here RN then?


To my knowledge, errands. Even to get a conversation out of him it took me about 6 pings to get him to talk. I'm getting vibes that he just hasn't got the time for the game which sucks. Makes me want to punch him in the face, though.
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delusionalism said:
Icibalus said:


I have, your points on reads often mindmeld mine (so obviously I agree with them) and when they don't they usually back up a perspective I have or had earlier in the game.

On your point about the lover pairs being used to narrow things down, I'm afraid that dosen't work. We had the option to sign up with a lover before we signed up, which technically means we could have 2 w/w pairs vs. 6 v/v pairs. It's entirely random here.


am i mistaken when i thought that people signed up with their partner, then the rand happened?

did rand happen then people picked partners?

this part of the op confrms its not two w/w pairings at least

"Polygamist: If two or four players are alive who are all from mafia/town pairs, they will achieve a special solo win, yes, they exist :P"


It's only saying that they theoretically exist, I believe.
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OK ignore my point about the Gwen/Sesh's lover thing I've read this page now.
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ScarletCelestial said:
delusionalism said:
ill be really annoyed if i did all that work and you guys proxylynch me through aadono who is towny


I read your posts - I think I like them quite a bit. I'd feel that as scum you'd be trying to push Gwen or settle with Sesh's partner as they're the alternatives to awa, your partner.

I like how you've read Rad in particular, and though I don't agree with the Wisp read from his start I can see where you're coming from with it and it makes sense.

Concerning Awa, I just want her to answer my questions first before I make a more concrete decision on her alignment.

Has she happened to have elaborated on any of her reads in her chat with you at all?


we havent really been able to have a proper chatyet - she elaborated on a fair few things with previous lover and briefed me on her read of the game state whilst i was catching up

ive only really been here for the last 4 hours or so, its mb really
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Icibalus said:


It's only saying that they theoretically exist, I believe.

oh

i thought it was confirming them to be itg
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that SUCks i thiought id had a big expading braine moment there
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delusionalism said:
Icibalus said:


It's only saying that they theoretically exist, I believe.

oh

i thought it was confirming them to be itg


we should probably ask the mod tbh
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if i look at this game im suprised nobody has bought this up yet but

if you can accurtately tr one part of a pairing we can narrow down a w/w pairing pretty easily. if i read the op correctly im pretty sure the pairings have to be one w/w, 2x 2 w/t?

so

based off my very excellent reads the only pairings i really see as being likely to be the w/w are either

Soda + Awesome (likely)
RC + Wisp (plausible)

i dont think the others are w/w due to seeing town in at least one part of the pairing



That sounds rather plausible based off the number of lover pairings - if it were 4 couples with one scum each I think it would become scumsided very easily.

Concerning who I'd think were most likely to be the M/M pair it would either be Astros/Gwen or Soda/Awesome imo, most likely the latter.
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Alright lets go. Idk my role and idk who my lover. The discord link died on me before I could join.

Im gonna give reads before I got my role? Or nah?

Screw it. Lets go xDD

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Why tf is sesh still at 3 votes


I don't think yurkin or Karote have returned to the thread since, and Sesh was self-voting due to believing their partner scum.
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Also forgot why I was voting yurkin

Vote: Gwen
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*Just to be clear I'm voting Gwen to kill Astros.
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This game is nightless so obviously nolynch is the best way to go.

Vote Nolynch

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delusionalism said:
ScarletCelestial said:


I read your posts - I think I like them quite a bit. I'd feel that as scum you'd be trying to push Gwen or settle with Sesh's partner as they're the alternatives to awa, your partner.

I like how you've read Rad in particular, and though I don't agree with the Wisp read from his start I can see where you're coming from with it and it makes sense.

Concerning Awa, I just want her to answer my questions first before I make a more concrete decision on her alignment.

Has she happened to have elaborated on any of her reads in her chat with you at all?


we havent really been able to have a proper chatyet - she elaborated on a fair few things with previous lover and briefed me on her read of the game state whilst i was catching up

ive only really been here for the last 4 hours or so, its mb really


Can you paraphrase anything she elaborated on concerning Gwen?
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ScarletCelestial said:
*Just to be clear I'm voting Gwen to kill Astros.


i mean Gwen's the wolf here
but i'm okay with this
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Alright lets go. Idk my role and idk who my lover. The discord link died on me before I could join.

Im gonna give reads before I got my role? Or nah?

Screw it. Lets go xDD


This scares me. Also: your lover is Awesome5000 who has posted only once I believe.
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