Found this on the subreddit for you @Genkii Its fully functional to apparently lol |
-MahesvaraMay 23, 2017 8:47 PM
My Queens  |
| I had a sudden urge to roll for Passionlip. I got Karna instead in 2 tickets. Okay then. |
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I MUST HAVE THIS. I WILL BUY A SECOND BODY PILLOW FOR THIS SO I DONT HAVE TO REPLACE VANILLA JEANNE. I AM SO MASSIVELY ERECT RIGHT NOW. gh... I need to lift, my testosterone just hit 300% [Edit] A quick eBay search and I found this... |
GenkiiMay 23, 2017 9:55 PM
• Vlad: Skill upgrade Add effect to Transformation: Atk up (3 turn). • Bryn: NP upgrade Bryn's Beloved bonus damage increased and Stargen buff amount increased. • Jeanne: NP upgrade Add effect: Cleanse debuff. Remove effect: Self-stun. • Helena: NP upgrade Jeanne just became a lot more viable. Vlad upgrade is welcome. |
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| Now if only they tweak Jeanne's shitty skills, she might actually be top tier. Apparently the Strengthening Quests are NP upgrades for Billy, Sanson, Astolfo, Medb, Siegfried, Serenity and Boudica.. |
Kaiser-chanMay 24, 2017 2:33 AM
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| * Helena's NP buff makes her damage ignore def. I regret not getting 5/5 Jeanne. Astolfo and Serenity? Fuck yeah! |
| Medb upgrade too? Good. Maybe she'll be worth using for reasons other than her male charisma buff. Sumanai definitely needed a buff, but I wonder if any buff can save him from mediocrity. |
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KingOfSherous said: Give him an attack buff for god sake.Medb upgrade too? Good. Maybe she'll be worth using for reasons other than her male charisma buff. Sumanai definitely needed a buff, but I wonder if any buff can save him from mediocrity. |
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ShadowfrostZen said: They did though. His dragon buff increases buster damage by 50% at max level. They should maybe boost his NP damage or something.KingOfSherous said: Give him an attack buff for god sake.Medb upgrade too? Good. Maybe she'll be worth using for reasons other than her male charisma buff. Sumanai definitely needed a buff, but I wonder if any buff can save him from mediocrity. Anyways, that's kinda disappointing. Was hoping for a skill upgrade for Seibah, or Iskandar. |
Jeanne's buff is very good and not nearly enough at the same time. Alongside the NP buff, she needs her NP gain increased either via increasing the hits on her Arts cards and Extra or increasing the value, and her skills overhauled. A REALLY nice touch too would be increasing her star weight. This would at least make her not hit like a wet noodle with that 9.5k ATK. But hey, at least she can do NPAAEX chains now. Although, this interlude made "Vessel of the Saint" kinda obsolete for Jeanne. Now it'd be much better and cheaper to just use "Divine Banquet" on her insterad. This makes me sad. That CE was Jeanne's external fix and the art more than made up for its shortcomings for me. |
astroprogsMay 24, 2017 10:49 AM
| waitng for appmedia to update shtty tier lis now... if Jeanne not better rank than 5.5, ill riot! EDIT: WTF they change they changed it Jannu 7.5 on draft rating ! vlad up to 8.5! |
kei78May 24, 2017 11:43 AM
| bruh |
| So this happened. Hahha.. I get the servants I don't want it seems.  |
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| ew, burn it |
| 'i got this 5* archer in the gacha and idk if shes good or not, also she looks like Tohsaka, is that intentional???' |
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| I dont know why Ishtar is so praised, aside from being Rin... I dont think she is that powerful, her Np is average. Her support is good but compared to squirtoria and gil, she is just meh |
| bruh |
kei78 said: To be fair everything would be meh when compared to the best Archers in the gameI dont know why Ishtar is so praised, aside from being Rin... I dont think she is that powerful, her Np is average. Her support is good but compared to squirtoria and gil, she is just meh |
kei78 said: I dont know why Ishtar is so praised, aside from being Rin... I dont think she is that powerful, her Np is average. Her support is good but compared to squirtoria and gil, she is just meh Well, if we solely go by gameplay: 1. Maxed Mana Burst (Gems) A+. 2. Great stats, especially HP. 3. High hit count on Quicks, Arts and Extra which means she doesn't need heavy Arts support to fire her NP consistently. 4. Maxed Mana Burst (Gems) A+. 5. Her card set allows her to fit in with a lot of parties. 6. Gets a Buster buff in NP with each level up, which means that her NPBBEX is devastating. 7. Her kit isn't entirely selfish, which adds more to her value. 8. Maxed Mana Burst (Gems) A+. 9. Invulnerability and invulnerability piercing. 10. Relatively high star weight. Pair her up with Emiya and Kuro and watch as great things go down against Sabers (like with the ongoing Hunting Quests). 11. As far as damage goes, her AoE NP is the second highest after Gil for Archers. 12. Did i mention the maxed Mana Burst (Gems) A+? |
| But gil np deal 3 times ishtar's so second best archer aoe is not revelant High Weight is a trait of any archer Même tier list rank her 9/10 but i really dont find her attractive as a farming nor anti saber unit, except her fine ass :p |
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kei78 said: But gil np deal 3 times ishtar's so second best archer aoe is not revelant High Weight is a trait of any archer Même tier list rank her 9/10 but i really dont find her attractive as a farming nor anti saber unit, except her fine ass :p Gil's NP being bropken doesn't somehow make Ishtar worse. Her AoE NP is definitely worse than Gil's, but who isn't? Ishtar's strength is knowing how to manipulate her buffs for extra damage, and when it comes to damage potential Ishtar is an absolute beast. Her high star weight is a plus because she can buff crit damage in addition to her regular buff, so she gets to deal even more damage than Gil, for example, with a crit when paired with the usual low weight suspects like Jack. I don't think I've seen a better NPBBEX chain aside from the high-tier Berserkers (Raiko, Kintoki and Cu), J. Alter and her Rider counterpart (AKA Que). Her placement in that list is perfect, actually one of the correct ones. Her damage potential is truly insane with the right setup, and that's still with no NP interlude. That's her thing. Ishtar doesn't need her NP to keep dealing a LOT of damage consistently. |
astroprogsMay 24, 2017 2:46 PM
| Q-neechan would be sad hearing you. Oh well, i don't need any others archer as long as i got gil, waver, merlin, squirtoria, Mhx's bond CE, and lot of 2034 CE edit: KISAMA ! You forgot Que and you edited you previous post! |
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kei78 said: Q-neechan would be sad hearing you. Oh well, i don't need any others archer as long as i got gil, waver, merlin, squirtoria, Mhx's bond CE, and lot of 2034 CE I added her as you were typing your post :p Well, you don't really "need" any specific Servant, with Masu being the only debatable exception, to beat every single fight in the game. Part of this game's fun IMO is figuring out different ways to win using the Servants you wanna use. |
astroprogs said: kei78 said: Q-neechan would be sad hearing you. Oh well, i don't need any others archer as long as i got gil, waver, merlin, squirtoria, Mhx's bond CE, and lot of 2034 CE I added her as you were typing your post :p Well, you don't really "need" any specific Servant, with Masu being the only debatable exception, to beat every single fight in the game. Part of this game's fun IMO is figuring out different ways to win using the Servants you wanna use. BERSERKER FOR THE WIN! |
| bruh |
kei78 said: astroprogs said: I added her as you were typing your post :p Well, you don't really "need" any specific Servant, with Masu being the only debatable exception, to beat every single fight in the game. Part of this game's fun IMO is figuring out different ways to win using the Servants you wanna use. BERSERKER FOR THE WIN! kei78 said: edit: KISAMA ! You forgot Que and you edited you previous post! You can't prove that. I could've edited it for any other reason :p Frostbite_ said: why are people trying to compare any NP to Gil's when (afaik) almost every single enemy in the game has the "Weak to Enuma Elish" attribute Yep, exactly. |
astroprogsMay 24, 2017 3:07 PM
Frostbite_ said: why are people trying to compare any NP to Gil's when (afaik) almost every single enemy in the game has the "Weak to Enuma Elish" attribute Yep, exactly.[/quote] MHX is not aggreed "Deals extra damage to Servants except towards Star Attribute Servant.For more details All Star Attribute Servants will not be affected by Extra Damage multiplier except for Bedivere, Leonardo Da Vinci, Scathach, Scathach (Assassin) and Jeanne d'Arc. " and for the editing, it is mark in big : Modified by XXX YYY min ago |
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kei78 said: MHX is not aggreed "Deals extra damage to Servants except towards Star Attribute Servant.For more details All Star Attribute Servants will not be affected by Extra Damage multiplier except for Bedivere, Leonardo Da Vinci, Scathach, Scathach (Assassin) and Jeanne d'Arc. " and for the editing, it is mark in big : Modified by XXX YYY min ago That's why he said "almost". Only six Servants from the 167 we have so far don't take that damage. That's hardly a "weakness". And... well, MHX sucks anyway, so it's not like this matters :p |
| It could be worse, like MHXA. |
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-Mahesvara said: Confusing MHX with MHXAkei78 said: That's not anything special since she'll take 2x the damage anyways for being a Berserker lmlMHX is not aggreed |
ShinsoPriest said: Oh shit my bad, someone mentioned MHXA, so I f figured that's who he was referring to. Its been a long day for me.-Mahesvara said: Confusing MHX with MHXAThat's not anything special since she'll take 2x the damage anyways for being a Berserker lml |
-MahesvaraMay 24, 2017 6:08 PM
My Queens |
| Had Ishtar actually had her own appearance I would have been somewhat interested in her and her lore. |
| New meme tier list. |
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| From personal experience, I mostly agree with that list. |
| Well I was expecting worse to say the least |
My Queens |
| Jeanne,Waver and BB team sounds pretty terrific now. |
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KaiserNazrin said: Jeanne,Waver and BB team sounds pretty terrific now. I feel like a BB + Jeanne team is actually one of the only setups that doesn't really benefit too much from the newest buff. BB was always going to get rid of Jeanne's NP drawback thanks to Ten Crowns, which can be used at least once every 4 turns at max, which is about how long it takes for Jeanne to gain full NP in a normal arts team, maybe a turn shorter sometimes, but on average around as long as the Ten Crowns cooldown. In a composition with Tamamo, this cooldown becomes 3, which is about how long it normally takes for Jeanne to get her NP with Tamamo in her team. The only real difference now is the team wide debuff cleanse, which can be pretty important in some battles I guess. EDIT: Actually, freeing up BB to heal people for 3000 other than Jeanne with her Ten Crowns does help a lot. So maybe my initial assessment was wrong. |
-Sherou-May 25, 2017 12:19 AM
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KingOfSherous said: KaiserNazrin said: Jeanne,Waver and BB team sounds pretty terrific now. I feel like a BB + Jeanne team is actually one of the only setups that doesn't really benefit from the newest buff. BB was always going to get rid of Jeanne's NP drawback thanks to Ten Crowns, which can be used at least once every 4 turns at max, which is about how long it takes for Jeanne to gain full NP in a normal arts team, maybe a turn shorter sometimes, but on average around as long as the Ten Crowns cooldown. In a composition with Tamamo, this cooldown becomes 3, which is about how long it normally takes for Jeanne to get her NP with Tamamo in her team. The only real difference now is the team wide debuff cleanse, which can be pretty important in some battles I guess. It was already good before but now that Jeanne's stupid stun is gone. Jeanne can spam NP a lot easier by Art chain all by herself without any help. The team is pretty invincible. I use this team as example but any Art team is good with Jeanne now. |
Kaiser-chanMay 25, 2017 12:27 AM
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| Existantial question : Why the fuck when i need merlin with bond CE, there is only waver, and when i need waver with bond CE there is only merlin in my friend list???? |
| bruh |
| I am so ashamed of my NP1 Merlin with no bond CE. NP5 Waver: Master, have you forgotten that we share a level 10 bon- Me: Helena! I'm adding you to the support list. Helena: YAAAY Waver: =_= |
| I would have prefer barbatos back but no one can say no to demon heart and dragon fang farming :D merlin+zerklot+raikou and 2 kaleidoscope make 1 turn/wave possible Edit: I dont know what they smoke or what they do in their life but the guys updating the meme tier list are sur free. they change the ranking system again |
kei78May 26, 2017 9:21 AM
| bruh |
| https://i.redd.it/xpzvkymo0wzy.png Ah yes, the tierlist has been updated once more. |
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| lol Koala Killer. Also lol they've expanded the rankings down to 3. That's dedication to making a shitty tier list. |
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| Wow that's the worst update yet |
My Queens |
kei78 said: merlin+zerklot+raikou and 2 kaleidoscope make 1 turn/wave possible 2 turn clear easily. I got 23 hearts now without even trying with this team lol. The drop rates are insanely good. Gonna try and farm 100 before the day ends. Mama Raikou crits 172k with Buster makes me so wet. |
Genkii said: kei78 said: merlin+zerklot+raikou and 2 kaleidoscope make 1 turn/wave possible 2 turn clear easily. I got 23 hearts now without even trying with this team lol. The drop rates are insanely good. Gonna try and farm 100 before the day ends. Mama Raikou crits 172k with Buster makes me so wet. 4 apple 4 heart. not every body got Ex luck like u >_< btw, im seeing my raikou crit at 330k thanks to double merlin |
| bruh |
| https://twitter.com/fatego99/status/868288202183815168 So the Rashoumon event will be rerun in the next week? EDIT: I don't know if it's real or not, but look at "7" from the 2017 in the banner that is blurry for some reason. I think it's fake and edited, but we'll wait and see in the next week about that re-run event coming or not. |
Z-DragonMay 26, 2017 9:11 PM
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| I wonder how much easier Ibaraki will be with all the new toys we've gotten since then. And by toys I mean Merlin. |
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| I missed Rider Kintoki, I would totally get him this time if its true. |
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KingOfSherous said: I wonder how much easier Ibaraki will be with all the new toys we've gotten since then. And by toys I mean Merlin. 1 turn OHKO with Gilgamesh, two Merlin, and a master buff. |
| now that im thinking about it. if we rerun this event, that means ppl will pull some more raikou :D good for Friend list |
kei78May 27, 2017 4:20 AM
| bruh |
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