SightlessReality said: Jackrito said: I'm just stateing the facts a twilight with me and Follow will end badly because that requires a tie which is easy to break, best to go with your gut and take 2 people who you think are scum. The viglante is useless now as well thanks to Sightless and the Mafia RB so they can't save the day. The vig became useless when they used their only shot. I will be honest forgot it was one shot, and I'm sorry about that still don't think you should of revealed them though |
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Bee-Boy said: Sightless what was your night result anyway? that u were vigilante i think lol |
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Togs said: Jackrito said: You got any problem with Lucian and Followind? Because you shouldnt.They is risk and then they is madness I don't go into a situation where I know I would die to kill a backup, more worth my time going for a doctor or something else. I also don't throw away my life as mafia to kill one person I trust myself to lead a team to glory. No none at all those were two of my bigger scumreads so fine with it. |
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Jackrito said: I will be honest forgot it was one shot, and I'm sorry about that still don't think you should of revealed them though I shouldn't have had to either. They stood to gain nothing by not claiming since they essentially became a VT. Which is also what made it so frustrating. If you go back to my post's from last night you'll see I mention that to Bee-Boy themselves albeit in third person. |
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Not really anyone who knows me should know I try high risk stuff if I think it benefits me but if I was going to do something it would not be this. I would also not of pushed Soren so hard if I knew he would flip town that could of got me vig shot with ease. I have a very calm and planned game as scum. |
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| Ya I really fucked up I know.... >_> I realized at soon as bioshade flipped we where in mylo. |
Bee-Boy said: Sightless what was your night result anyway? Really <-< You really haven't figured this out even though I'v mentioned it a few times. I saw that you were the Vig. |
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| Also another tip is that scum Jack would choose to night kill an inactive player early game that's his killing style that he refuses to change for whatever reason. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Also another tip is that scum Jack would choose to night kill an inactive player early game that's his killing style that he refuses to change for whatever reason. Why go for the easy win and take away the challenge a win by inactivity is not a win in my book. Ari also had a lot of trust in me so no point in killing her if I was bad, it is good to keep them people alive to help out when you are suspected. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: I am interested in the answer. If they're answered, that's fine. Sometimes I continue, sometimes I paused for later. As for those who doesn't answer my question, I'll probe again when I want to. Also I go post by post. I used to not even know what discussing mechanics is, but if it let me understand more about what I can use and what I can't, why not? It's not like that was the only thing that caught my attention. dono, explain???? this comes out a bit defensive. Because that is a defense? Why did you quote me here again?: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Jackrito said: I may as well update this while I go. For people who hate long posts I will spoiler that the short version is my reads currently are strong Scum: Shinchi,Soren,Dono,Bee-boy, slight scum: Sightless, Togs ( He could go in strong but I just find his style scummy so trying not to be biased.) Neu (Shuuka,Bioshade,Lucian,Followwind) Strong town SoulEaterQueen,Crossbell, Ari, If people want me to explain any of these reads please ask. @Togs do you really see Jack being scummy based on this post? This is how Jack plays the game, he's an analysis man, I don't think his reads are too shabby at that point to be fabricated. Wouldn't that mean he's good at fabricating his list? o.O |
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| well sorry about one liners then. I like the get straight to the point |
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| @crossbell whats your opinion on jack and follwind? |
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Bee-Boy said: Ya I really fucked up I know.... >_> I realized at soon as bioshade flipped we where in mylo. Thought u were suppose to be an experienced player lol |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Bee-Boy said: Ya I really fucked up I know.... >_> I realized at soon as bioshade flipped we where in mylo. Thought u were suppose to be an experienced player lol Experienced doesn't mean good it just means I have played games. |
| ok I agree that Jack and Alice should be town. His writing style probably does change if he were scum as said before (I wouldn't have played with him enough to know.) but it would really backfire if they were both actually scum >.> |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Also another tip is that scum Jack would choose to night kill an inactive player early game that's his killing style that he refuses to change for whatever reason. People can manipulate there meta, meta is unreliable tool to say someone is town. |
Togs said: LucianRoy said: Mmm, Lucian’s catchup posts remind me of my own catchup posts whenever I’m scum. : P They’re kind of hard to read due to length and the fact that I care mostly about Dono, Soren, and Jack atm, so I haven’t looked at him closely but Lucian is on the top of my list to look into toNight.Page 9 Blah blah, beeboy still reads Jack as scum, blah blah Dono seems to have gotten kicked into gear from all the votes she's garnered, but a lot of her questions feel too general. She drops some self meta in 435 about her being an observer, and from what I remember, I agree with it, but I don't see any conclusions with the analysis she says she's formulating by asking all of them. There's just a bunch of questions that I don't see going anywhere. I don't like Dono's defense from Ari claiming that her vote was random. I thought the vote was a decent attempt to push a player who's insight she found odd. It does seem somewhat omgus-ish to me, although Dono being upset at the lack of textual evidence coming from Ari is fair. Crossbell backed the vote as well, and Cross is probably one of my largest TRs right now just from their approach to the game as a whole. I think I explained this in a bit of my earlier catch-up post as well. Followind's entrance to the game struck me in a nullish to town fashion, but it really disappoints me that he didn't vote after his read-though. I'm curious to see who he votes now that twilight has rolled around. I hope he doesn't keep up his passiveness he claimed towards the end of his post in the form of not-voting, because that's just straight fence-sitting. Why is a catch-up post scummy? |
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aa-dono said: Togs said: Mmm, Lucian’s catchup posts remind me of my own catchup posts whenever I’m scum. : P They’re kind of hard to read due to length and the fact that I care mostly about Dono, Soren, and Jack atm, so I haven’t looked at him closely but Lucian is on the top of my list to look into toNight. Why is a catch-up post scummy? It buys time to not have to scum hunt . |
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aa-dono said: Togs said: Mmm, Lucian’s catchup posts remind me of my own catchup posts whenever I’m scum. : P They’re kind of hard to read due to length and the fact that I care mostly about Dono, Soren, and Jack atm, so I haven’t looked at him closely but Lucian is on the top of my list to look into toNight. Why is a catch-up post scummy? They are not scummy by nature but some people when scum use them to make themselfs look active and scumhunting while actually not doing anything. It is a great way to appear town if done well but from exp Lucian always does this as scum but not town this comes from him lacking confidence in his ablity to fake scumhunt and thinks this works. |
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Bee-Boy said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Also another tip is that scum Jack would choose to night kill an inactive player early game that's his killing style that he refuses to change for whatever reason. People can manipulate there meta, meta is unreliable tool to say someone is town. I know that but this is a quirk about Jack that has to do with moral standards when he plays mafia |
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| that's makes no sense at all lol |
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Bee-Boy said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Also another tip is that scum Jack would choose to night kill an inactive player early game that's his killing style that he refuses to change for whatever reason. People can manipulate there meta, meta is unreliable tool to say someone is town. Bee see's it how it the same I look at everything he's openminded about the chance that jack could be fake everything for town cred |
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Shuuka said: that's makes no sense at all lol hmm? |
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| unvote Honestly I am going to take a break from this game until we get a vote count or something. |
| I have been playing low quality mafia across the board for the past week or so and it is bugging me. |
Jackrito said: They are not scummy by nature but some people when scum use them to make themselfs look active and scumhunting while actually not doing anything. It is a great way to appear town if done well but from exp Lucian always does this as scum but not town this comes from him lacking confidence in his ablity to fake scumhunt and thinks this works. It's the same shit that he pulled in the Harry Potter game. He also did this to a lesser extent in role ladness when he converted to scum. |
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Jackrito said: Your defenses are all good though. Why can't Soren have perfect defense as well?Soren said: Jack thinks I was was pressuring him while getting other people's thoughts on him so I hide behind that and that somehow makes me scum. Shinichi disagrees with my perspective on the twilight approach and somehow that makes me scum. Whereas Crossbell thought the same as me but he never scum read him for it. Oh and the lack of scum hunting from me. They is a lot more to this then me and Shinchi so not sure why we are getting all the blame off you second thime you done this. I stand by my reasons on you, and the fact you had a near perfect defense to them. Puts me off a lot more no one should have a defense that good unless all thier actions were done on purpose to leave no gaps which a townie does not do. Did you detect mafia? What do you mean? |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Jackrito said: They are not scummy by nature but some people when scum use them to make themselfs look active and scumhunting while actually not doing anything. It is a great way to appear town if done well but from exp Lucian always does this as scum but not town this comes from him lacking confidence in his ablity to fake scumhunt and thinks this works. It's the same shit that he pulled in the Harry Potter game. He also did this to a lesser extent in role ladness when he converted to scum. Yeah it is one of his biggest scum tells since I don't think he has ever done it as town but could be wrong |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Bee see's it how it the same I look at everything he's openminded about the chance that jack could be fake everything for town cred can you please actually help. Just kill followind and it will prove Jack's innocence. I know you roll scum more often than town so you are playing the town skeptic but town can't afford turning on each other when scum have the upper hand here. |
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about the read back being scummy, but that was before orher people had started commenting. |
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aa-dono said: Jackrito said: Your defenses are all good though. Why can't Soren have perfect defense as well?They is a lot more to this then me and Shinchi so not sure why we are getting all the blame off you second thime you done this. I stand by my reasons on you, and the fact you had a near perfect defense to them. Puts me off a lot more no one should have a defense that good unless all thier actions were done on purpose to leave no gaps which a townie does not do. Did you detect mafia? What do you mean? I don't have a perfect defense I never do espically in this game, where I have been a lot more loose and free minded because I always had a role to fall back on. No defense is perfect because no one should be thinking about it that much unless they are scum or hiding something. Even in my best games as scum I have made mistakes because I lack the absloute caution needed to be prefect. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Bee see's it how it the same I look at everything he's openminded about the chance that jack could be fake everything for town cred can you please actually help. Just kill followind and it will prove Jack's innocence. I know you roll scum more often than town so you are playing the town skeptic but town can't afford turning on each other when scum have the upper hand here. Not turning on anyone I'm just being openminded in the situation and looking at every available option. Can't the same be said vice versa. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: can you please actually help. Just kill followind and it will prove Jack's innocence. I know you roll scum more often than town so you are playing the town skeptic but town can't afford turning on each other when scum have the upper hand here. Not turning on anyone I'm just being openminded in the situation and looking at every available option. Can't the same be said vice versa. You have to commit today or one misplaced vote can ruin the chance of going into twilight and scum can just mass. if I see the same situation as the girls with guns game happen again where a forced mislynch happen via scum team I'm not playing mafia in a long time. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Not turning on anyone I'm just being openminded in the situation and looking at every available option. Can't the same be said vice versa. You have to commit today or one misplaced vote can ruin the chance of going into twilight and scum can just mass. if I see the same situation as the girls with guns game happen again where a forced mislynch happen via scum team I'm not playing mafia in a long time. Scum can just mass vote* |
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| I need a small time out from this game because I'm getting a bit frustrated. |
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Vote Count 2.3: LucianRoy (2): Togs, SoulEaterQUEEN followind (1): Jackrito Jackrito (1): followind No lynch (1): Crossbell Players not voting: (Bee-Boy, SightlessReality, LucianRoy, aa-dono, Shuuka, Shinichi-kun) |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Not turning on anyone I'm just being openminded in the situation and looking at every available option. Can't the same be said vice versa. You have to commit today or one misplaced vote can ruin the chance of going into twilight and scum can just mass. if I see the same situation as the girls with guns game happen again where a forced mislynch happen via scum team I'm not playing mafia in a long time. Wasn't in that game and i am planning to vote Can i just take a break so i can think this out :( |
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| We really need a vote count about now. I'll repeat this. We need 3 trains. 2 will be our prime suspects to move into twilight & the third will be the No Lynch option as the failsafe. However, fo that to work the No Lynch vote vote will need to be 1 vote less then the two suspects votes so we don't end up with a 3 way tie. |
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| I'll put my vote on Followind. Vote: Followwind |
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| Catching up right now. |
| Why did we all forget about dono by the way? |
| @shuuka do u plan on voting? |
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Jackrito said: Why not? I do ask a lot of question and I realize my opinions are very different (and wrong; Ari), plus Soren's good defense.I still think Dono is town I really don't like the people voting them at all. I have no faith in Togs or Bee-boy. SoulEaterQUEEN said: What do you mean by checking up?Jackrito said: I still think Dono is town I really don't like the people voting them at all. I have no faith in Togs or Bee-boy. Someone better be checking up or I am going to get pissed off. LucianRoy said: Shinichi-Kun said: I actually like this reasoning tho too bad your trap didn't really give you any info, but at the same time this could just be a great defense to get some people to look away from you. Smooth "I like this reasoning" coming from shin over here. Smooth fencesitting with the "this could just be a great defense to get some people to look away from you." Nice positioning you got going on here. What do you mean by nice positioning? LucianRoy said: Arrisu said: Her vote on Jack was not only insignificant, it was only adding to the biggest train. She could easily use that to add power to a town lynch as scum. So of course she would choose to join such a large train. I see. Bee-boy, like, did you read her insertion to the Jack train as scummy same as Ari? Insertion to the Jack train? I don't know if my English have gone really bad, because right now I'm not even asking because I detected something off, I simply don't get what you guys are/were saying. ;-; |
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Bee-Boy said: Why did we all forget about dono by the way? We didn't but shes not the problem right now lol, so don't bring another player into the matter >_> |
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| I am forgetting about a lot of things that are going on in this game. Assuming we don't lose outright I plan on rereading on friday. (so the next night/day phase I believe) |
Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: You have to commit today or one misplaced vote can ruin the chance of going into twilight and scum can just mass. if I see the same situation as the girls with guns game happen again where a forced mislynch happen via scum team I'm not playing mafia in a long time. Wasn't in that game and i am planning to vote Can i just take a break so i can think this out :( Yes you were, you were one of the townies playing skype mafia instead of being around for the phase change so I was a bit pissed off. >.> But fine, take the time to think about this but I want naked thoughts on this. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Bee-Boy said: Why did we all forget about dono by the way? We didn't but shes not the problem right now lol, so don't bring another player into the matter >_> Is it sub optimal to consider all players at all times due to deadline constraints? I am used to 2 week deadlines. |
aa-dono said: Jackrito said: Why not? I do ask a lot of question and I realize my opinions are very different (and wrong; Ari), plus Soren's good defense.I still think Dono is town I really don't like the people voting them at all. I have no faith in Togs or Bee-boy. What do you mean by checking up? LucianRoy said: Smooth "I like this reasoning" coming from shin over here. Smooth fencesitting with the "this could just be a great defense to get some people to look away from you." Nice positioning you got going on here. What do you mean by nice positioning? LucianRoy said: I see. Bee-boy, like, did you read her insertion to the Jack train as scummy same as Ari? Insertion to the Jack train? I don't know if my English have gone really bad, because right now I'm not even asking because I detected something off, I simply don't get what you guys are/were saying. ;-; Insertion means the way you placed your vote and under the circumstances of that vote placement. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Shinichi-Kun said: Wasn't in that game and i am planning to vote Can i just take a break so i can think this out :( Yes you were, you were one of the townies playing skype mafia instead of being around for the phase change so I was a bit pissed off. >.> But fine, take the time to think about this but I want naked thoughts on this. Oh wait LOL i blocked that game out of my head cause i was so annoyed. |
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yeah... was trying to think about it for a moment. based on what all has been said I'll Vote: LucianRoy it seems im coming to an agreement with Alice the most now im at work and I'll be back in a few hours |
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