| Alice I see what you mean but he could always be purposely faking it. but I guess in the end what im saying might not make much sense. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: I'm sorry because it seems like you're very sure of this and pretty frustrated, but I have to go with my own instincts over yours. I promise you this though, if you turn out to be right after this game is over, I'll never doubt you when you're this sure again !because I KNOW Jack personally, I know his writing style when he's bull shitting/being genuine/being manipulative/calculating/when he's thinking-trying. His thoughts have been in sync with mine and for good reason. The way I try to scum hunt sometimes is that I psychoanalyze the person's thoughts, that's why I ask a lot of questions sometimes because I try to understand the perspective of a person, that is how I can tell the difference between fake scum hunting versus real. I don't know his scum games personally but I studied up a little and usually he's pushes on a plan pre-emptively. I also seen him play off as a victim if he's being attacked but he's been really open/calm throughout so far which tells me he wants to get as much info as possible without ruining anything. |
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| Town, please listen to me, I really fucked up by helping with the Soren lynch but you want to keep Jack around as town because he's a valuable asset to have around. He actually tries to scum hunt. Keep him alive so that scum won't control the game. Lynching a confirmed power role, especially when Sightless outed himself as rolecop. GOOD GOING, let's lose the possible last card to find the remaining scum (which I won't back down on my LucianRoy read). |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: No, Jack is NOT getting lynched today. I refuse to go with that plan. I'm not letting my day 1 efforts go to waste. If I am wrong about followind not being the scum here, please lynch me because I deserve it. If you are wrong the game kind of ends cause our really bad vig decided to shoot >_> |
Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Wow lynch a confirmed power role really to be fair, though I'm only a back up so not the biggest loss to the world. exactly no offense but your extremely good at defending yourself and its clear wind isn't so i want both to have a fair chance if worse comes to worse double lynch \ o / So you think I'm bad only because I have history as been good in defending myself, but Follow does not seriously. How can I battle logic like that which assumes I'm bad already. How about we judge off in game actions instead. |
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| I wish scum counter claimed sightless. I would have believed his claim in a heartbeat... |
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Hmmm I might be down for the double lynch bundle of Lucian and Followind. Even though I think Jack is the more likely scum, it's a gamble that Lucian is also scum and if Follow flips town then Jack will be a free lynch toMorrow.Town, please listen to me, I really fucked up by helping with the Soren lynch but you want to keep Jack around as town because he's a valuable asset to have around. He actually tries to scum hunt. Keep him alive so that scum won't control the game. Lynching a confirmed power role, especially when Sightless outed himself as rolecop. GOOD GOING, let's lose the possible last card to find the remaining scum (which I won't back down on my LucianRoy read). |
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Jackrito said: of course he is not confident he is lying when you have a power role in a setup like this though you will have some confidence imo anyway. Don't fall into the pity trap so easy. Jack no offensve but i wanna look at both sides plz and thank you :D. |
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Togs said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: I'm sorry because it seems like you're very sure of this and pretty frustrated, but I have to go with my own instincts over yours. I promise you this though, if you turn out to be right after this game is over, I'll never doubt you when you're this sure again !because I KNOW Jack personally, I know his writing style when he's bull shitting/being genuine/being manipulative/calculating/when he's thinking-trying. His thoughts have been in sync with mine and for good reason. The way I try to scum hunt sometimes is that I psychoanalyze the person's thoughts, that's why I ask a lot of questions sometimes because I try to understand the perspective of a person, that is how I can tell the difference between fake scum hunting versus real. I don't know his scum games personally but I studied up a little and usually he's pushes on a plan pre-emptively. I also seen him play off as a victim if he's being attacked but he's been really open/calm throughout so far which tells me he wants to get as much info as possible without ruining anything. You have been biased aganist me from your first post in this game, so this does not shock me at all. I feel I would of done enough in this game to not be lynched without a power role, So having one should prove it even more but if you want to let your biased view lead to a mislynch and lose the game sure go for it. |
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| Le sigh. I guess I will have to wait and see if people have some sense because I am really not seeing it right now. |
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| I would settle for followind, lucian in all honesty. |
Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: exactly no offense but your extremely good at defending yourself and its clear wind isn't so i want both to have a fair chance if worse comes to worse double lynch \ o / So you think I'm bad only because I have history as been good in defending myself, but Follow does not seriously. How can I battle logic like that which assumes I'm bad already. How about we judge off in game actions instead. Gah idk you 2 play differently and utilizie different actions. You both have your own opinions and your clearly the better player but your telling me I should use that to say your obviously town lol? |
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| I honestly would go for the Lucian & Followind into Twilight as well. |
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| I don't ever consider players resources but maybe the games I play with are filled with strong players usually. My problem with not doing Followind, Jackrito is that we are taking an unneeded risk. Followind, Jackrito guarantees we hit scum and nothing else we do is more reliable then that. |
| Vote: Lucian Yeah let's do this. |
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| Can anyone not read Jack's town frustration, c'mon people. >.> Lucian + followind double bundle is the way to go. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: of course he is not confident he is lying when you have a power role in a setup like this though you will have some confidence imo anyway. Don't fall into the pity trap so easy. Jack no offensve but i wanna look at both sides plz and thank you :D. Ok let me play a little game then why do you think I was annoyed at Sightless for RC himself and Bee as a mafia I would love to know two power roles. I also got annoyed at Bee-boy for the Wifom thing because it messed up a town trap. Why would I do both things as bad it makes no sense. Also why would I push a lynch so hard on day one if bad it made me too much of a suspect I did it because I knew with my role I could talk my way out if wrong. |
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Bee-Boy said: I don't ever consider players resources but maybe the games I play with are filled with strong players usually. My problem with not doing Followind, Jackrito is that we are taking an unneeded risk. Followind, Jackrito guarantees we hit scum and nothing else we do is more reliable then that. This is how I;m looking at it and to me this is the best course of action. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Can anyone not read Jack's town frustration, c'mon people. >.> Lucian + followind double bundle is the way to go. alot of people have had town fustration at this point smh |
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Jackrito said: Ok let me play a little game then why do you think I was annoyed at Sightless for RC himself and Bee as a mafia I would love to know two power roles. I also got annoyed at Bee-boy for the Wifom thing because it messed up a town trap. Why would I do both things as bad it makes no sense. Also why would I push a lynch so hard on day one if bad it made me too much of a suspect I did it because I knew with my role I could talk my way out if wrong. So your saying scum jack wouldn't do everything exactly the same to get town cred and look like a town aligned player? |
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| By the way day 1 I was deliberately apathetic since as the vig I could just shoot whoever I couldn't lynch. That's why I was looking at all the idle players as none of them could have that mentality as they weren't the vig. |
Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: So you think I'm bad only because I have history as been good in defending myself, but Follow does not seriously. How can I battle logic like that which assumes I'm bad already. How about we judge off in game actions instead. Gah idk you 2 play differently and utilizie different actions. You both have your own opinions and your clearly the better player but your telling me I should use that to say your obviously town lol? No I'm saying don't use my exp as a negative aganist me that is not fair. Go into it with a normal view. |
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| oh yes because followind seems like he is SO frustrated right now. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: Gah idk you 2 play differently and utilizie different actions. You both have your own opinions and your clearly the better player but your telling me I should use that to say your obviously town lol? No I'm saying don't use my exp as a negative aganist me that is not fair. Go into it with a normal view. Not using against you i'm taking it to heart but should I use that against follow wind to say your the obvious back up cop? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Soren said: Are you hesitant on who to vote for? I am that's for sure cause just like in day 1 i'm hesitant in locking my vote on someone espically when i get slight town vibes from both you and dono. Heh. Didn't you say in these post: Shinichi-Kun said: Dono just feels to geuinine to be scum tho I can't reference corpse party cause i died early *cough cough Shinichi-Kun said: Bee-Boy said: Like this only works if aa-donho and Shinichi-kun vote each other. Woudln't vote a neutral read Shinichi-Kun said: LucianRoy said: She's a neutral read despite voting the same person as you? How do you read her now D1's all said-and-done? I read her both as slight scum and slight town, because her questions give off a "I'm townie that want's answers", but at the same time she's not really doing much to help town or stand out as a scum hunter. Is this still your "I defend everyone"? Or you couldn't make up you mind about your own reads? |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: oh yes because followind seems like he is SO frustrated right now. either way i'm not changing my stance i want both jack and wind in twilight cause I don't have enough confidence in my ability to deduce which one is lieing. |
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followind said: Why do you even find me scummy? I've only posted a bit since I've been a little occupied and have some connection issues... I don't think me being a bit inactive earns me a scum read tbh... "Too" here is a question whether he, like Jack, read you as scum as well. As for me, yes. Not because you were inactive. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Ok let me play a little game then why do you think I was annoyed at Sightless for RC himself and Bee as a mafia I would love to know two power roles. I also got annoyed at Bee-boy for the Wifom thing because it messed up a town trap. Why would I do both things as bad it makes no sense. Also why would I push a lynch so hard on day one if bad it made me too much of a suspect I did it because I knew with my role I could talk my way out if wrong. So your saying scum jack wouldn't do everything exactly the same to get town cred and look like a town aligned player? I would not take those risks and I would of used a Vanilla role since PR counters cause issues and can backfire. I go into games with a plan and this would not be it. |
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| i just don't have the time to iso you both out right now before twilight phase so i prefer it if jack and wind were there. |
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aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: I am that's for sure cause just like in day 1 i'm hesitant in locking my vote on someone espically when i get slight town vibes from both you and dono. Heh. Didn't you say in these post: Shinichi-Kun said: Dono just feels to geuinine to be scum tho I can't reference corpse party cause i died early *cough cough Shinichi-Kun said: I read her both as slight scum and slight town, because her questions give off a "I'm townie that want's answers", but at the same time she's not really doing much to help town or stand out as a scum hunter. Is this still your "I defend everyone"? Or you couldn't make up you mind about your own reads? Idk why your pointing me out to be a bad guy when i'm the uncounterclaimed doctor lol. and yes it was lol I 2nd guess my decisions all the time and i have a hard time deducing stuff. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: i just don't have the time to iso you both out right now before twilight phase so i prefer it if jack and wind were there. Yes lets do try to do a twlight with at least once confirmed town, because scum won't do a last min vote to stop it and kill the town yeah great plan. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: i just don't have the time to iso you both out right now before twilight phase so i prefer it if jack and wind were there. Yes lets do try to do a twlight with at least once confirmed town, because scum won't do a last min vote to stop it and kill the town yeah great plan. >_> can i just stay out of this then cause i dont trust you or wind. |
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Jackrito said: Shinichi-Kun said: So your saying scum jack wouldn't do everything exactly the same to get town cred and look like a town aligned player? I would not take those risks and I would of used a Vanilla role since PR counters cause issues and can backfire. I go into games with a plan and this would not be it. >.> You explicitly told me earlier in this very game that you go for the risky plays as scum |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Yes lets do try to do a twlight with at least once confirmed town, because scum won't do a last min vote to stop it and kill the town yeah great plan. >_> can i just stay out of this then cause i dont trust you or wind. and since you think twilight phase is a bad idea between you and wind I don't feel confident enough to make my own decision. |
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| Out of curiosity has Shuuka caught up yet? >.> |
Shinichi-Kun said: Jackrito said: Yes lets do try to do a twlight with at least once confirmed town, because scum won't do a last min vote to stop it and kill the town yeah great plan. >_> can i just stay out of this then cause i dont trust you or wind. I'm just stateing the facts a twilight with me and Follow will end badly because that requires a tie which is easy to break, best to go with your gut and take 2 people who you think are scum. The viglante is useless now as well thanks to Sightless and the Mafia RB so they can't save the day. |
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Togs said: Jackrito said: I would not take those risks and I would of used a Vanilla role since PR counters cause issues and can backfire. I go into games with a plan and this would not be it. >.> You explicitly told me earlier in this very game that you go for the risky plays as scum can u find that post? |
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followind said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Can anyone remind me why it's a bad idea to not just kill both again? There's a shit ton of info that can be gained here, and possibly catch one scum. Just so tempting >___> If you ask me.. It's pretty much a double edged sword.. Also it depends on the situation... If you think both of them are scum then it might be better to double lynch since we might get one or even two scums But if we aren't sure either one is scum than it might be worse to double lynch since we might even kill 2 townie... This will reduce the town numbers and get it closer to mafia mod win cons... What about what your thought? @SoulEaterQUEEN why did you quote me here: Did you wanted to ask something? |
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Bee-Boy said: Out of curiosity has Shuuka caught up yet? >.> Nope, still the lurking one liner. |
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Jackrito said: I'm just stateing the facts a twilight with me and Follow will end badly because that requires a tie which is easy to break, best to go with your gut and take 2 people who you think are scum. The viglante is useless now as well thanks to Sightless and the Mafia RB so they can't save the day. The vig became useless when they used their only shot. |
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SightlessReality said: Bee-Boy said: Out of curiosity has Shuuka caught up yet? >.> Nope, still the lurking one liner. I hate those guys. |
Togs said: Jackrito said: I would not take those risks and I would of used a Vanilla role since PR counters cause issues and can backfire. I go into games with a plan and this would not be it. >.> You explicitly told me earlier in this very game that you go for the risky plays as scum They is risk and then they is madness I don't go into a situation where I know I would die to kill a backup, more worth my time going for a doctor or something else. I also don't throw away my life as mafia to kill one person I trust myself to lead a team to glory. |
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| @beeboy wait are you a 1 shot vigilante lol why in the world would you waste that shot day 1 >_>. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Togs said: >.> You explicitly told me earlier in this very game that you go for the risky plays as scum can u find that post? Here you go |
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| Because I forgot it sent us to mylo :D |
Jackrito said: You got any problem with Lucian and Followind? Because you shouldnt.Togs said: >.> You explicitly told me earlier in this very game that you go for the risky plays as scum They is risk and then they is madness I don't go into a situation where I know I would die to kill a backup, more worth my time going for a doctor or something else. I also don't throw away my life as mafia to kill one person I trust myself to lead a team to glory. |
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| If I thought a bit more I wouldn't have taken that shot... >_> |
| Sightless what was your night result anyway? |
Interesting indeed |
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