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Jun 13, 2016 9:06 AM

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Bee-Boy said:
{Ari}
{SoulEaterQUEEN}
{Togs, Crossbell}
{LucianRoy}
{Soren, SightlessReality, followind}
{Jackrito}
{Shuuka, aa-dono}
{Shinichi-kun}


Ari - I had reasons to town read Ari originally which I don't want to get into because it helps scum more then it helps town. But I really liked the recent Ari posts I feel like she is proactively trying to solve the game.
Togs - Reads make sense and are easy to follow townie.
SoulEaterQUEEN - Proactively engaging with everyone she just feels really obviously town. If I am wrong here just due to her sheer activity I am confident this read can develop.
Togs and Crossbell - Making strong efforts to solve the game.
LucianRoy - I have the same read as the above but like I am hesitant because it almost feels robotic like he is going through motions in his catch up posts which make me uncomfortable but he is likely town.
Soren - Not sure why out of all the lurkers we chose him to be double lynched today in all honesty...
Slightless - Not sure what he is doing this game but this is usual play from what I understand so it isn't worth looking into.
followind - Has posts I haven't seen anything that as stood out in them in all honesty but maybe I am just not observing properly.
Jackrito - I still think there is a lack of scum hunting from this slot the only reason I have him so high up compared to before is how highly my town reads view him. I know that I should have my own reads but mafia is a team based game so *shrugs* I let people influence me.
Shuuka - There is a sheer lack of anything coming from this slot.
dono - I feel like there is a sheer lack of things coming from this slot but I am seeing posts but nothing memorable is coming out of them. I know that isn't the strongest read in the world but that's how I read people this is just giving me bad gut feelings.
Shinichi-kun - A variety of scummy things throughout the game. I don't like how he has defended other players it messes in the way I don't like. I don't like how he is dealing with the pressure and above I quoted a post I don't like.

Hmm any reason why you mentioned Togs twice in this?
Jun 13, 2016 9:08 AM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:
aa-dono said:

I'm tempted to ask you this:

I'll post it sometime today. The read list. Need to finish my assignments first. Since right now, it's most everyone's bedtime, I'm gonna use this silent time to study ^^

I'd shoot followind, he's one of the worst lurkers (I actually forgot he was playing!) on here so far even though Sightless/Shuuka have been too but at least they are upfront about not being compliant with trying to think about the game, he tries to pretend he's thinking about it but makes no effort to develop it as the game progresses. The fact he hasn't even said anything so far since the end of phase is making me wonder more and more...
Maybe I am being super biased here but as town, would you not try to care a little more on who is going to get lynched/try to actively solve it in some way?
From what I remember he also refused to vote anyone as well, that doesn't show any want on committing to anything - scared being in the spotlight? scared to get info?

Hmm..
This actually is because I was out whole day and just got on MAL just now..
Jun 13, 2016 9:11 AM

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I'm going to do bit of a re-read and see what I can come up with.
Jun 13, 2016 9:16 AM

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I'm going to do bit of a re-read and see what I can come up with.
Are you hesitant on who to vote for?
Jun 13, 2016 9:17 AM

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Bee-Boy said:
{Ari}
{SoulEaterQUEEN}
{Togs, Crossbell}
{LucianRoy}
{Soren, SightlessReality, followind}
{Jackrito}
{Shuuka, aa-dono}
{Shinichi-kun}


Ari - I had reasons to town read Ari originally which I don't want to get into because it helps scum more then it helps town. But I really liked the recent Ari posts I feel like she is proactively trying to solve the game.
Togs - Reads make sense and are easy to follow townie.
SoulEaterQUEEN - Proactively engaging with everyone she just feels really obviously town. If I am wrong here just due to her sheer activity I am confident this read can develop.
Togs and Crossbell - Making strong efforts to solve the game.
LucianRoy - I have the same read as the above but like I am hesitant because it almost feels robotic like he is going through motions in his catch up posts which make me uncomfortable but he is likely town.
Soren - Not sure why out of all the lurkers we chose him to be double lynched today in all honesty...
Slightless - Not sure what he is doing this game but this is usual play from what I understand so it isn't worth looking into.
followind - Has posts I haven't seen anything that as stood out in them in all honesty but maybe I am just not observing properly.
Jackrito - I still think there is a lack of scum hunting from this slot the only reason I have him so high up compared to before is how highly my town reads view him. I know that I should have my own reads but mafia is a team based game so *shrugs* I let people influence me.
Shuuka - There is a sheer lack of anything coming from this slot.
dono - I feel like there is a sheer lack of things coming from this slot but I am seeing posts but nothing memorable is coming out of them. I know that isn't the strongest read in the world but that's how I read people this is just giving me bad gut feelings.
Shinichi-kun - A variety of scummy things throughout the game. I don't like how he has defended other players it messes in the way I don't like. I don't like how he is dealing with the pressure and above I quoted a post I don't like.

Hmm any reason why you mentioned Togs twice in this?


Not sure why i'm ur top scum read out of everyone else in this entire game XD.


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Soren said:
SoulEaterQUEEN said:
I'm going to do bit of a re-read and see what I can come up with.
Are you hesitant on who to vote for?


I am that's for sure cause just like in day 1 i'm hesitant in locking my vote on someone espically when i get slight town vibes from both you and dono.


Jun 13, 2016 9:20 AM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Bee-Boy said:
{Ari}
{SoulEaterQUEEN}
{Togs, Crossbell}
{LucianRoy}
{Soren, SightlessReality, followind}
{Jackrito}
{Shuuka, aa-dono}
{Shinichi-kun}


Ari - I had reasons to town read Ari originally which I don't want to get into because it helps scum more then it helps town. But I really liked the recent Ari posts I feel like she is proactively trying to solve the game.
Togs - Reads make sense and are easy to follow townie.
SoulEaterQUEEN - Proactively engaging with everyone she just feels really obviously town. If I am wrong here just due to her sheer activity I am confident this read can develop.
Togs and Crossbell - Making strong efforts to solve the game.
LucianRoy - I have the same read as the above but like I am hesitant because it almost feels robotic like he is going through motions in his catch up posts which make me uncomfortable but he is likely town.
Soren - Not sure why out of all the lurkers we chose him to be double lynched today in all honesty...
Slightless - Not sure what he is doing this game but this is usual play from what I understand so it isn't worth looking into.
followind - Has posts I haven't seen anything that as stood out in them in all honesty but maybe I am just not observing properly.
Jackrito - I still think there is a lack of scum hunting from this slot the only reason I have him so high up compared to before is how highly my town reads view him. I know that I should have my own reads but mafia is a team based game so *shrugs* I let people influence me.
Shuuka - There is a sheer lack of anything coming from this slot.
dono - I feel like there is a sheer lack of things coming from this slot but I am seeing posts but nothing memorable is coming out of them. I know that isn't the strongest read in the world but that's how I read people this is just giving me bad gut feelings.
Shinichi-kun - A variety of scummy things throughout the game. I don't like how he has defended other players it messes in the way I don't like. I don't like how he is dealing with the pressure and above I quoted a post I don't like.

Hmm any reason why you mentioned Togs twice in this?


Because forging faulty scum reads at 3 am can be a challenge.
Jun 13, 2016 9:29 AM

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@bioshade2 whats ur reason for being on dono just curious


Jun 13, 2016 9:42 AM

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aa-dono said:
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I agree with jack here

So do you find followind scummy too?

Why do you even find me scummy?
I've only posted a bit since I've been a little occupied and have some connection issues...
I don't think me being a bit inactive earns me a scum read tbh...
Jun 13, 2016 9:47 AM

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why?


Because this isn't enough for me to scum read her lol, sure the fact that she wanted someone to point her towards the hint is quite scummy but their could be other reason's behind that which i ain't willing to disclose.

Did wind ever even respond to this post I need to go check.

Which post do you mean?
The one Jack said that he's feels I'm a bit scummy?
I thought that town knowing or finding another town role hinting will be good since it might help power roles...
but Jack thinks otherwise so I've said I'll keep that in mind if I'm not mistaken
Jun 13, 2016 9:49 AM

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Soren said:
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I'm going to do bit of a re-read and see what I can come up with.
Are you hesitant on who to vote for?

yup. I don't see dono behaving very different from the Corpse Party, as I brought up in my #934, and with you, I just feel like all your actions thus far have been good, but almost in a sense they seem really careful - so I can't really paint you scummy because of this either.
So I need to take a time out to advance my thoughts on this.
Jun 13, 2016 9:52 AM

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followind said:
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Because this isn't enough for me to scum read her lol, sure the fact that she wanted someone to point her towards the hint is quite scummy but their could be other reason's behind that which i ain't willing to disclose.

Did wind ever even respond to this post I need to go check.

Which post do you mean?
The one Jack said that he's feels I'm a bit scummy?
I thought that town knowing or finding another town role hinting will be good since it might help power roles...
but Jack thinks otherwise so I've said I'll keep that in mind if I'm not mistaken


Ok ok just wanted to know ur mind set between wanting to know where the hints were.


Jun 13, 2016 9:54 AM

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Also don't try to scum trap me with being hesitant on voting, it's not going to work.
Jun 13, 2016 10:02 AM

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Can anyone remind me why it's a bad idea to not just kill both again?
There's a shit ton of info that can be gained here, and possibly catch one scum.
Just so tempting >___>
Jun 13, 2016 10:07 AM

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Can anyone remind me why it's a bad idea to not just kill both again?
There's a shit ton of info that can be gained here, and possibly catch one scum.
Just so tempting >___>

If you ask me..
It's pretty much a double edged sword..
Also it depends on the situation...
If you think both of them are scum then it might be better to double lynch since we might get one or even two scums
But if we aren't sure either one is scum than it might be worse to double lynch since we might even kill 2 townie... This will reduce the town numbers and get it closer to mafia mod win cons...
Jun 13, 2016 10:08 AM

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vote: double lynch
Jun 13, 2016 10:11 AM

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Come on, let's do a double lynch. There's nothing to lose here!
There's scum in this twilight phase, there's definitely scum!
Jun 13, 2016 10:12 AM

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SoulEaterQUEEN do you plan on rereading I am curious as to whether or not you read anything interesting.
Jun 13, 2016 10:12 AM

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Can anyone remind me why it's a bad idea to not just kill both again?
There's a shit ton of info that can be gained here, and possibly catch one scum.
Just so tempting >___>


But what if neither are scum lol then what?


Jun 13, 2016 10:14 AM

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Come on, let's do a double lynch. There's nothing to lose here!
There's scum in this twilight phase, there's definitely scum!


Then why not just vote the person you find the scumiest why risk the life of a townie too?


Jun 13, 2016 10:14 AM

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SoulEaterQUEEN do you plan on rereading I am curious as to whether or not you read anything interesting.

In the process of it
Jun 13, 2016 10:14 AM

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Shinichi-Kun said:
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Come on, let's do a double lynch. There's nothing to lose here!
There's scum in this twilight phase, there's definitely scum!


Then why not just vote the person you find the scumiest why risk the life of a townie too?


Why are you assuming both are town >.<
Jun 13, 2016 10:20 AM

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Crossbell said:
Like if we double lynch Days 1 and 2 we can lynch four people while the scum can only kill one. That gives us reasonably likely odds to hit at least one scum.

What happened to this conviction?
Jun 13, 2016 10:22 AM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:
aa-dono said:

I'm tempted to ask you this:

I'll post it sometime today. The read list. Need to finish my assignments first. Since right now, it's most everyone's bedtime, I'm gonna use this silent time to study ^^

I'd shoot followind, he's one of the worst lurkers (I actually forgot he was playing!) on here so far even though Sightless/Shuuka have been too but at least they are upfront about not being compliant with trying to think about the game, he tries to pretend he's thinking about it but makes no effort to develop it as the game progresses. The fact he hasn't even said anything so far since the end of phase is making me wonder more and more...
Maybe I am being super biased here but as town, would you not try to care a little more on who is going to get lynched/try to actively solve it in some way?
From what I remember he also refused to vote anyone as well, that doesn't show any want on committing to anything - scared being in the spotlight? scared to get info?

I thought it would for the best if I didn't vote for anybody since it will break aa and Soren tie and we wouldn't enter this phase...
Once again, I'm sorry for entering to this phase this late since I've had some events
Jun 13, 2016 10:24 AM

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Like if we double lynch Days 1 and 2 we can lynch four people while the scum can only kill one. That gives us reasonably likely odds to hit at least one scum.

What happened to this conviction?
I forgot that we can give our PRs additional Nights to find scum.

Plus I am waffling on these lynches and think that both have a reasonable chance to flip town. :(
Jun 13, 2016 10:27 AM

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Crossbell said:
Like if we double lynch Days 1 and 2 we can lynch four people while the scum can only kill one. That gives us reasonably likely odds to hit at least one scum.

What happened to this conviction?

It's a good idea IMO but I was thinking for other possibilities such as Day 1 and 2 we lynch 1 people each and double lynch on day 3 since IMO we will have more info
Correct me if I'm wrong...
Jun 13, 2016 10:29 AM

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Then why not just vote the person you find the scumiest why risk the life of a townie too?


Why are you assuming both are town >.<


Because it's a possibilty i refuse to overlook lol


Jun 13, 2016 10:31 AM

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aa-dono said:
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I'm fine with it but if we start munching double townies I don't want to do this again until later game.

Wouldn't double lynch be more riskier in later games? Especially with mafia wincon. Assuming they'd be able to make night kills, then the risk losing more townies by lynch at later phase will be even worse.
Jun 13, 2016 10:32 AM

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Is there anything anyone wants to ask me?
It's 12:30 a.m here and I still have to go to school at 7:30...
I feel being left out as townie in this game since I've been preoccupied with things
Jun 13, 2016 10:35 AM

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aa-dono said:

Wouldn't double lynch be more riskier in later games? Especially with mafia wincon. Assuming they'd be able to make night kills, then the risk losing more townies by lynch at later phase will be even worse.

Is this for me @SoulEaterQUEEN ?
Jun 13, 2016 10:36 AM

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@aa-dono
I need a solid read list from you like ASAP.
You ASKED A LOT of questions in D1, surely you gathered enough intel to produce some viable reads, because as town, why else would you ask that many questions?

You also need to comment on what you think of Soren.
Jun 13, 2016 10:36 AM

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I like the idea behind double lynching, through a miller, godfather and the fact that one of our cops is only a neapolitan using night to solve the game isn't as strong as what you would think.
Jun 13, 2016 10:37 AM

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Anyway for now...
Vote:Soren
I feel aa is more genuine even though she's scum reading me a lot...
I don't think I'll be able to attend the phase change since it's 3 a.m here..
anyway if anyone wants to ask me question ask it now..
I'm going to sleep in a moment
Jun 13, 2016 10:38 AM

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followind said:
Is there anything anyone wants to ask me?
It's 12:30 a.m here and I still have to go to school at 7:30...
I feel being left out as townie in this game since I've been preoccupied with things

Don't be self centered, try to think between Soren/aa-dono on who do you prefer to vote. BOTH? NONE? Or one or the other.
I want to actually see a thoughtful vote produced out of this.
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followind said:
Anyway for now...
Vote:Soren
I feel aa is more genuine even though she's scum reading me a lot...
I don't think I'll be able to attend the phase change since it's 3 a.m here..
anyway if anyone wants to ask me question ask it now..
I'm going to sleep in a moment

ohhh I got ninja'd
(forget my post below)
Jun 13, 2016 10:44 AM

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where's @Togs
@LucianRoy
?
Jun 13, 2016 10:45 AM

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@SoulEaterQUEEN @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell
Is there anything you guys want to ask me?
If not, I'll go to sleep ...
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@SoulEaterQUEEN @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell
Is there anything you guys want to ask me?
If not, I'll go to sleep ...

@BeeBoy too
I'm just mentioning everyone who's online right now
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followind said:
@SoulEaterQUEEN @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell
Is there anything you guys want to ask me?
If not, I'll go to sleep ...

why no double lynch?
Jun 13, 2016 10:46 AM

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I just got here, catching up. I'm surprised Soren got nominated and even more surprised that he's getting votes ??? From what I saw D1 he's one of my biggest townreads. I can and will back this up with reasoning because he definitely shouldn't be the lynch toDay.
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followind said:
@SoulEaterQUEEN @Shinichi-Kun @Crossbell
Is there anything you guys want to ask me?
If not, I'll go to sleep ...

why no double lynch?

I'm not really sure on either one of them...
Both of them seems a bit more townish but I still feel them as a bit scum but since I feel dono more genuine I've voted soren
But I don't think a no lynch would be a hood choice here
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I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum.

I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote.
Jun 13, 2016 10:51 AM

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Nah followind you are good.
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Is it bad I think Dono and Soren both have a decent chance of being town but I want to lynch both of them anyway?
It just feels so wrong not using the double lynch power >_>
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Ok read through AA. First she asks two questions and seems completely uninterested in the answers. Then she gets in a conversation with SoulEater about the mechanics of double lynching. So scumhunting doesn’t really seems to catch her interest but the setup does. Yeah I definitely would like some more pressure on her.

vote: aa-dono

how did your Jackrito vote just dissipitate when the new hot target came around?
Jun 13, 2016 10:56 AM

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I voted aa-dono for pressure. I would've highly preferred both Jack and AA being in this Twilight.
Jun 13, 2016 10:58 AM

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Togs said:
I just got here, catching up. I'm surprised Soren got nominated and even more surprised that he's getting votes ??? From what I saw D1 he's one of my biggest townreads. I can and will back this up with reasoning because he definitely shouldn't be the lynch toDay.


Please do because nothing he has done today I see as a solid town read, It is just filled with caution and asking people for thier views and giving little of his own views unti this twlight phase where he has had to give more because of pressure. So really intrested in this.
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To extrapolate this is the second time I've used the "doesn't care about scumhunting questions but does care about xxx questions" tell and I'm curious as to it's accuracy, since last time I only found a neutral jester with it. So I wanted more info out of AA while was I good with my scumread on Jack. (Still havent finished catching up atm btw)
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Togs said:
I voted aa-dono for pressure. I would've highly preferred both Jack and AA being in this Twilight.


Give me the reasons why then, because you and Bee-boy both have had me as big scum reads with no solid reasons in my view.
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aa-dono said:
Crossbell said:
I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum.

I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote.

Here again. The "zero scum-hunting". I'm not sure how scum-hunting is to everyone else now since I've been getting that a lot in most games.
My questions are there for me to understand how someone works. If I see a point where I can continue, I would. Also, sometimes, I don't probe when someone doesn't reply because I take note of that. And in later phase I could go back to it.
Now, for someone who wanted to wait for more people, you voted me quite quick the moment Ari mentioned me. Isn't this jumping on it because I haven't remove vote?

This looks like town frustration to me.
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