| Heads up I have somewhere to be at 18:30 to 19:30, and will be grabbing dinner after that. Phase change happens at 21:00 for me and I don't know when I'll get home. Even if I get home before phase change I will most likely not have enough time to catch up. I may or may not get time to check the game from my phone, but if I do I won't be able to post much anyways. So if there's anything you want from me, voice it now. |
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aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: What's the issue with controlled voting in the last 30 minutes? What happens if no one got lynched because of a 3 way tie produced because no one planned accordingly? But there's few times when last minute voting does catch scum because they get excited when they're not being lynched and tend to slip even more. Sure there are risks of ties, but I don't see the need to strictly control it. He could have said keep in mind or try not to disrupt it, but why the necessity to emphasize on it? It's urgency and desperation because we do not want to send in just anyone into the twilight phase, we have to be strategic about it if we want to take advantage of the weapon we have right infront of us. I only see this emphasis as a town's mindset, not a scum's one. Scum is less likely to try to control the game this early, at least that is what I think unless you are really confident scum no matter the player basis. |
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aa-dono said: aa-dono said: Was about to vote lynch Shinichi-kun because of the contradiction vibe he gives me but going through posts again and I can't ignore this: Vote Arrisu I feel like she's putting in a random vote, for the sake of voting. But since we're out of that phase, she comes out with "I'll give reasons later" and then just agreeing with what others pointed at. That wasn't what I was implying and if she did get scumreads from me by that post, she would read and check again but instead she used the fact that I did discuss about that to strengthen her vote. aa-dono said: I see what you mean about not putting everything out so early. I didn't vote for her immediately when I thought that. It's just after a while it wouldn't get away from my thoughts. And Ari did say she doesn't want to reveal the reasons and yet when others give their reasons, she went on saying she thought the same the same the same. Idk, it just doesn't sit well with me. aa-dono said: On Ari. I know she puts pressure. I voted her because I feel that it was actually a random kind of pressure. But when Crossbell and Togs steps in, she went on agreeing with what they said. It's not the fact that she agrees, it's that she seems to agree with everything, saying she thought the same, but when she was asked much earlier on why she thinks I'm scum, she said it was guts and wouldn't want to reveal it. I see so "random" pressure is still your reasoning. But do you see it differently now? Given her reasons are more transparent. What I am asking you now is that do you still see her as your primary scum suspect? |
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Soren said: Heads up I have somewhere to be at 18:30 to 19:30, and will be grabbing dinner after that. Phase change happens at 21:00 for me and I don't know when I'll get home. Even if I get home before phase change I will most likely not have enough time to catch up. I may or may not get time to check the game from my phone, but if I do I won't be able to post much anyways. So if there's anything you want from me, voice it now. I asked you to claim & you ignored me. |
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| My gut is telling me to still go with Dono. She hasn't answered any questions & clearly doesn't care to defend herself by claiming like previously asked. It just rubs me the wrong way. |
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Arrisu said: Soren said: Heads up I have somewhere to be at 18:30 to 19:30, and will be grabbing dinner after that. Phase change happens at 21:00 for me and I don't know when I'll get home. Even if I get home before phase change I will most likely not have enough time to catch up. I may or may not get time to check the game from my phone, but if I do I won't be able to post much anyways. So if there's anything you want from me, voice it now. I asked you to claim & you ignored me. I think multiple people have asked both soren and dono to claim. Since your leaving soon it might be best you do it now soren. |
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aa-dono said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Anyway, I will leave it at that for now. I'm sorry @aa-dono if you have questions you want me to answer it will have to be when I wake up. But before I go, can I request another new reads list of sorts based on your new questions/what had happened at the end of the day phase you missed out on? I'm tempted to ask you this: Crossbell said: Who do you want to lynch, and why? - you have a triple barreled gun, and you need to shoot a scum or lose. Who do you shoot? I'll post it sometime today. The read list. Need to finish my assignments first. Since right now, it's most everyone's bedtime, I'm gonna use this silent time to study ^^ I'd shoot followind, he's one of the worst lurkers (I actually forgot he was playing!) on here so far even though Sightless/Shuuka have been too but at least they are upfront about not being compliant with trying to think about the game, he tries to pretend he's thinking about it but makes no effort to develop it as the game progresses. The fact he hasn't even said anything so far since the end of phase is making me wonder more and more... Maybe I am being super biased here but as town, would you not try to care a little more on who is going to get lynched/try to actively solve it in some way? From what I remember he also refused to vote anyone as well, that doesn't show any want on committing to anything - scared being in the spotlight? scared to get info? |
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Arrisu said: My gut is telling me to still go with Dono. She hasn't answered any questions & clearly doesn't care to defend herself by claiming like previously asked. It just rubs me the wrong way. Could compile all the questions in 1 post :D. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: I'm tempted to ask you this: I'll post it sometime today. The read list. Need to finish my assignments first. Since right now, it's most everyone's bedtime, I'm gonna use this silent time to study ^^ I'd shoot followind, he's one of the worst lurkers (I actually forgot he was playing!) on here so far even though Sightless/Shuuka have been too but at least they are upfront about not being compliant with trying to think about the game, he tries to pretend he's thinking about it but makes no effort to develop it as the game progresses. The fact he hasn't even said anything so far since the end of phase is making me wonder more and more... Maybe I am being super biased here but as town, would you not try to care a little more on who is going to get lynched/try to actively solve it in some way? From what I remember he also refused to vote anyone as well, that doesn't show any want on committing to anything - scared being in the spotlight? scared to get info? Tbh from what i've noticed he hardly ever votes. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: aa-dono said: I'm tempted to ask you this: I'll post it sometime today. The read list. Need to finish my assignments first. Since right now, it's most everyone's bedtime, I'm gonna use this silent time to study ^^ I'd shoot followind, he's one of the worst lurkers (I actually forgot he was playing!) on here so far even though Sightless/Shuuka have been too but at least they are upfront about not being compliant with trying to think about the game, he tries to pretend he's thinking about it but makes no effort to develop it as the game progresses. The fact he hasn't even said anything so far since the end of phase is making me wonder more and more... Maybe I am being super biased here but as town, would you not try to care a little more on who is going to get lynched/try to actively solve it in some way? From what I remember he also refused to vote anyone as well, that doesn't show any want on committing to anything - scared being in the spotlight? scared to get info? I will also make mention to bioshade2, he's been lurking and threading together other people's reasonings which in itself looks scummy as hell, but I'm being a bit biased that this is his first game so I am giving him time along with Shuuka until the end of this phase to come up with something more substantial. |
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I will do that when I get home in 1 hour, but not much has changed from this one apart from Followwind is more scummy. They will be some slight changes but I need to reread to be sure. Readlist |
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Shinichi-Kun said: SightlessReality said: Anyways, I'll put a vote in for Soren due to him putting a vote on me as a policy lynch. You'd think with me flipping town so much he'd think twice about doing so. But at the same time I can't entirely fault him for it do to my play style. It's still an odd move none the less. Vote: Soran Also can I point out coming from you this vote is extremely scummy because the reasoning was explained already. So what if he gave reasons behind it. Doesn't matter to me it's still a fishy move regardless. |
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Soren said: Heads up I have somewhere to be at 18:30 to 19:30, and will be grabbing dinner after that. Phase change happens at 21:00 for me and I don't know when I'll get home. Even if I get home before phase change I will most likely not have enough time to catch up. I may or may not get time to check the game from my phone, but if I do I won't be able to post much anyways. So if there's anything you want from me, voice it now. Yes, this is going to be a little obscure. I like reasons behind null reads please. What straight up makes someone null read for you? There's many factors attributed to a null read that contain null elements, or a cancellation effect between scummy/townie, so I want you to assess this with your null reads. I need to understand your mindset more, just a little more. |
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| I'm going to have to request that Soren and dono claim. They both /feel/ like town to me, but at the same time there has to be scum somewhere. followind seems like a decent candidate to be scum, after some thinking. |
Vote Count T1.3: aa-dono (1): Soren Soren (2): Crossbell, SightlessReality No lynch (0): Double lynch (0): Players not voting: (Togs, Jackrito, Bee-Boy, SoulEaterQUEEN, LucianRoy, followind, aa-dono, bioshade2, Arrisu, Shuuka, Shinichi-kun) |
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Shinichi-Kun said: 2. @Togs 3. @Jackrito 4. @Bee-Boy 5. @SightlessReality 8. @followind 11. @bioshade2 13. @Shuuka Peekaboo you people gonna provide any input? Sorry, had to sleep, i had a doctors appointment before work and we've been swamped today, i feel like the this double lynch would be a bit risky as im not getting a super scummy feeling from either, but dono seems to be the safe bet as not having a lynch seems to be a worse idea than having a wrong lynch. So Vote: Dono as this is probably my last time i am able to post in this phase. edit to make vote bold |
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Arrisu said: SightlessReality said: For information purposes. Why else? A No lynch does nothing because at the end of the day we'v wasted not 1 but 2 days on two people only to ultimately learn nothing. And you seriously think Soren will provide more information then aa-dono at this point? I don't think so. Dono got much more heat evenly throughout the phase, so there's more potential information coming from lynching her. So that means you town read both of them, who would you have rather to see appear into the twilight zone phase? I'd rather have not gone into twilight at all on day 1 if that answers your question. You don't think so? So? |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: SightlessReality - has provided almost nothing to the game. Interested to see where my policy lynch went and voted for himself, was against the double lynch, and decides to vote me today despite not scum reading me but because he had to choose someone between the two. Unable to read him.Soren said: Heads up I have somewhere to be at 18:30 to 19:30, and will be grabbing dinner after that. Phase change happens at 21:00 for me and I don't know when I'll get home. Even if I get home before phase change I will most likely not have enough time to catch up. I may or may not get time to check the game from my phone, but if I do I won't be able to post much anyways. So if there's anything you want from me, voice it now. Yes, this is going to be a little obscure. I like reasons behind null reads please. What straight up makes someone null read for you? There's many factors attributed to a null read that contain null elements, or a cancellation effect between scummy/townie, so I want you to assess this with your null reads. I need to understand your mindset more, just a little more. LucianRoy - mostly just catch up posts that commentates on the game with some of his thoughts sprayed in. But it doesn't stick out to me whether he is scum or town from it. followind - seems to not make much of a stance in the game, made a little read list but that didn't do much. I've been avoiding followind in a lot of games because he's still inexperienced and so I can't expect much from him. aa-dono - main thing I recall from aa-dono is asking a lot of questions and then trying to defend her read on ari? bioshade2 - offered some input into the game, but is a newbie and I have a hard time reading newbies. Shuuka - voted jack which added to the wagon, but it seemed from her post that it was a rvs vote. Ultimately has no real thoughts on the game. She is also new and I can't expect much from her so again hard to read. |
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| I am Yui, a vanilla townie. |
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SightlessReality said: Arrisu said: And you seriously think Soren will provide more information then aa-dono at this point? I don't think so. Dono got much more heat evenly throughout the phase, so there's more potential information coming from lynching her. So that means you town read both of them, who would you have rather to see appear into the twilight zone phase? I'd rather have not gone into twilight at all on day 1 if that answers your question. You don't think so? So? You've completely disregarded what I said about your reason behind Soren's vote. Like I said, voting against Dono would provide more lynch information even if she wasn't scum. |
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Arrisu said: SightlessReality said: I'd rather have not gone into twilight at all on day 1 if that answers your question. You don't think so? So? You've completely disregarded what I said about your reason behind Soren's vote. Like I said, voting against Dono would provide more lynch information even if she wasn't scum. That's nice. Good for you. |
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Arrisu said: @Chione - If somebody votes "Double Lynch" it's counted as a seperate tally right? For example: Ari - 2 votes Ali - 1 votes Double Lynch - 1 vote So that wouldn't mean that Ari goes up to 3 & Ali goes up to 2 right? Double is it's own category, if I understand correctly. Yup, that's correct. |
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| Unvote; Vote: Dono I'm really not confident on dono flipping scum but I will acquiesce to Arrisu. She has lead scum lynches before in this manner (Claire) |
| I'm leaving in 20 minutes. It'd be cool if dono could pop in for a bit but I doubt it. Therefore I will stick with my initial read, especially after seeing who & the reasoning that people are voting against Soren seems "eeeh" to me. Town I trust you won't make the foolish error of a no lynch. I don't want to have spent this whole 48 hours to simply not collect any information at the end of this phase. |
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| Did dono claim? I don't want to lynch a power role out of nowhere. If Togs doesn't post at all this phase I will tear into him Tomorrow. |
Crossbell said: Did dono claim? I don't want to lynch a power role out of nowhere. If Togs doesn't post at all this phase I will tear into him Tomorrow. She kept trying to push it back earlier, saying that she will only claim if needed. :/ I also don't like this because it doesn't help town at all. Well I trust you & @Soul to make the right decision while I'm gone. |
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| Fair enough. I really hope aa-dono gets back before the deadline and claims. |
Arrisu said: Crossbell said: Did dono claim? I don't want to lynch a power role out of nowhere. If Togs doesn't post at all this phase I will tear into him Tomorrow. She kept trying to push it back earlier, saying that she will only claim if needed. :/ I also don't like this because it doesn't help town at all. Well I trust you & @Soul to make the right decision while I'm gone. My issue is they is no reason not to claim as scum, since we can't catch them out with ease on it since they are likely to use their fake claims. So the fear to claim I see more as a good sign. The rest of thier contribution is not great though, that is a given so I would not be aganist lynching them but need to do my reread first. |
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Arrisu said: My gut is telling me to still go with Dono. She hasn't answered any questions & clearly doesn't care to defend herself by claiming like previously asked. It just rubs me the wrong way. I understand where you are coming from but I am still not fully convinced, her behaviour here is not that much different when she was town in the Corpse party game: here's some examples I pulled out: aa-dono said: Zuhra said: I have re-read everything and my possible townies are Queen and Followind. And the scummish people are Penta and Aa-dono, though I am surer about my town read than my scum one. Why do you find us scummy? - Penta: Is it because of his music mention thing? - Me: I don't quite get it. Explain? You said you're surer about your town reads. Zuhra said: So just Soul's one comment made you feel she's town?She straightaway confronted Penta about vanillising town. No one before her mentioned anything about it so I presumed she knew what could happen because she was town. I town-read followind too so not gonna question much on that yet. I will follow you~ wherever you will go~ Digi's ad. I don't know why they're popping up. Maybe because I'm Denja's daughter? aa-dono said: Chione said: Mhm. Do you think that it is weird that Arrisu brought Penta into the lead so early on? D: Not very. But it's weird that she didn't try probing others? Wonders to self if I have played much with Ari on forums.... People are strange when you're a stranger Examples of her just asking questions above. In this one here this is where she asks about vanillizing, similar to how she asked about the double lynch thing: aa-dono said: I'm not sure if I understood what the whole vanilising is still, maybe it's the word that confuses me. Anyway, if I understood it right, I at least know who's leaning town now :) 'Cause now I'm shining bright~ so bright This example below how she falls under pressure and voted for the sake of voting which resembled what she did with Ari in a sense: aa-dono said: Chione said: Hm... So you have the intention of changing your vote later? Do you have an idea who else might be a candidate to vote for? :I Penta.. I guess that you saw what nobody could see~ Well, how bout I vote him now then :/ Purify Penta Accusation below on her reads being called fluffed over, shows a weak defence: aa-dono said: Chione said: No, it's about her overall play. If you look at her town and scum reads, they are pretty fluffed. Fluffed? Over and over I fall when I hear you call~ I mix things in because of tribute, and well, since Indi did get what I meant, I'm guessing she sees the substance in my posts. As for my town read and scum read, it was based on what town wouldn't want to risk. Although below here is clearly a town frustration which I failed to pay attention to when I played, not something I noticed yet in this phase: aa-dono said: I have nothing on Ari or Lunar. I don't know why Shinichi unvote you if he doesn't have better suspects. I don't like Soren's jump from she's town and she's not town about Zuhra, but he provide reasons, and not much I can say about it since it's only Day 1. I said who I think is town. And if you look at my posts, you should be able to figure out why I choose Penta. There's not much else I can say to it. Your refusal to believe my lynch candidate is Penta comes from not wanting to lynch him. The same goes for most of others. If you think Penta's an easy lynch and therefore not want to vote for him, the next available train that is easy to jump into is me. In a way, that's pretty much choosing an easy lynch too. Sometimes it's wrong to walk away, though you think it's over~ Knowing there's so much more to say~ @Zuhra why are we both awake again? ;-; But then a lack of her own defense and continuously acting questions. aa-dono said: Thank you. Why are you not voting though? Even if I survive this phase, I might be killed since you just said it's obvious I'm town~ but I guess it's not so obvious (which I'm supposed to be glad about but i don't know what to feel) It's your love, it just does somethin' to me, it sends a shock right through me, I can't get enough~ So in an essence, I really thought aa-dono was scum in that game but she ended up being town. >.< |
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Arrisu said: @Chione - If somebody votes "Double Lynch" it's counted as a seperate tally right? For example: Ari - 2 votes Ali - 1 votes Double Lynch - 1 vote So that wouldn't mean that Ari goes up to 3 & Ali goes up to 2 right? Double is it's own category, if I understand correctly. yup |
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Arrisu said: SightlessReality said: I'd rather have not gone into twilight at all on day 1 if that answers your question. You don't think so? So? You've completely disregarded what I said about your reason behind Soren's vote. Like I said, voting against Dono would provide more lynch information even if she wasn't scum. Im confused at this statement why would her death provide more info? |
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| Quick break. Sorry, but my lecturers just dropped a bomb on me. I'll be back once I'm done. I'm Shiina. |
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Arrisu said: Crossbell said: Did dono claim? I don't want to lynch a power role out of nowhere. If Togs doesn't post at all this phase I will tear into him Tomorrow. She kept trying to push it back earlier, saying that she will only claim if needed. :/ I also don't like this because it doesn't help town at all. Well I trust you & @Soul to make the right decision while I'm gone. This is what I don't like lol because your basically guilt tripping people to vote your top scum read well atleast that's how i see it. Crossbell said: Did dono claim? I don't want to lynch a power role out of nowhere. If Togs doesn't post at all this phase I will tear into him Tomorrow. I'm waiting for her claim cause right now I don't see enough evidence to think either one is scum, not sure where ari's firm read is coming from. While soren claimed vanilla and defended himself really well so there is a high chance hes telling the truth but I'm assuming the mafia fake claim's are vanilla townies. |
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Soren said: I am Yui, a vanilla townie. But there's a Yui vig?? |
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aa-dono said: Quick break. Sorry, but my lecturers just dropped a bomb on me. I'll be back once I'm done. I'm Shiina. Town character but whats your role? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Arrisu said: She kept trying to push it back earlier, saying that she will only claim if needed. :/ I also don't like this because it doesn't help town at all. Well I trust you & @Soul to make the right decision while I'm gone. This is what I don't like lol because your basically guilt tripping people to vote your top scum read well atleast that's how i see it. Crossbell said: Did dono claim? I don't want to lynch a power role out of nowhere. If Togs doesn't post at all this phase I will tear into him Tomorrow. I'm waiting for her claim cause right now I don't see enough evidence to think either one is scum, not sure where ari's firm read is coming from. While soren claimed vanilla and defended himself really well so there is a high chance hes telling the truth but I'm assuming the mafia fake claim's are vanilla townies. Lol what else are they going to be, since we know what the powerroles in play are and who they are characterwise. |
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nakamura yuri - vigilante its suppose to be yuri Soren claimed the pink haired girl. Yui |
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Its a different character. |
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The vig's name is supposed to be Yuri. It's my fault, I fixed it now. |
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Vote Count T1.4: aa-dono (4): Soren, bioshade2, Arrisu, Crossbell Soren (1): SightlessReality No lynch (0): Double lynch (0): Players not voting: (Togs, Jackrito, Bee-Boy, SoulEaterQUEEN, LucianRoy, followind, aa-dono, Shuuka, Shinichi-kun) |
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| Hmm, can someone give a bit of insight on these character claims. I don't know the mindset of the hosts when they gave fakeclaims to the scum team, but I wonder if there is a small chance we can deconstruct if there's a probability that these claims are actually fit into the game. I feel like they would throw a curveball and give the scum team a less minor character, but I don't know the show at all to judge this. |
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| Unless.. Would it be insane if we played in a fill in the blank game between Soren/aa-dono, just to see if a "portion of the role PM" checks out or do you think the scum team saw a copy of a role printed out? |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Hmm, can someone give a bit of insight on these character claims. I don't know the mindset of the hosts when they gave fakeclaims to the scum team, but I wonder if there is a small chance we can deconstruct if there's a probability that these claims are actually fit into the game. I feel like they would throw a curveball and give the scum team a less minor character, but I don't know the show at all to judge this. Yui fits as a vanilla townie because if i recall she doesn't do much in the serious that stands out XD. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Unless.. Would it be insane if we played in a fill in the blank game between Soren/aa-dono, just to see if a "portion of the role PM" checks out or do you think the scum team saw a copy of a role printed out? Actually this may be a violation to the game rules. |
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| dono claimed her http://myanimelist.net/character/24506/Shiina The most I could see her being would be a vigilante or a vanilla. |
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