Game v19: Idol Mafia! [Game End - Town/Third Party Wins]

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Oh interesting.
I was wondering where the other 3rd party role would come into play.
I'm also feeling pretty sure aa-dono is the other mafia at this point.
Just to re-evaluate the importance of town's decision on killing the SK today:
1) killing SK means one less night kill:
if coro is SK, then I'm removed from the game leaving
1 TPR
2 Town
2 Mafia
(I assume that mafia = night kill properly)
2) town can only win in the following scenario
a)TPR vote with town
b) double voter stays alive which means JAILOR you protect them, though if rb is used in this scenario from mafia (which I'd like to stay uncertain here since Shinichi didn't use his RB with his role which I found odd thing to do given they claim no scum rber)
3) town will lose in the following scenario
1 TPR
1 town
1 mafia
a) town mislynches the remaining mafia
b) TPR doesn't vote with town
c) Ace card: doublevoter picks the right mafia so that is a win even if (b) is an issue.

@DenjaX @shadroxx2810
I want role and character, we are going to do a full reveal now. You have to make the claim detailed because the game is thrown if you don't, I will lynch your ass for any half ass claims at this point.
@coromandel
if shadroxx2810 claims TPR as well, why do you not find this suspicious with your CC? I'm the only confirmed other TPR in this game.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
@coromandel
if shadroxx2810 claims TPR as well, why do you not find this suspicious with your CC? I'm the only confirmed other TPR in this game.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
cop checked DenjaX I thought.. so DenjaX came out as innocent. If he is SK, then he could have immunity for checking - I want to see if godfather has this, but otherwise I am inclined to not think DenjaX is SK .......

coromandel said:

I do find him suspicious, but I think he's mafia rather than 3rd party.



Shad and Denja have both claimed to be 3rd party, and based on my own role, I know that one of them is lying about their alignment. The only reason why I can see someone fake-claiming to be a TPR, is that they're actually mafia. So one of them has to be mafia, and the other one is the SK.

Jack said that Denja is either town or 3rd party, but not mafia. Which is why I think he's the SK, and Shad is mafia.

shadroxx2810 said:


And then turns out I'm the true TPR ;)

shadroxx2810 said:


And then turns out I'm the true TPR ;)

coromandel said:

Three players have claimed to be third party, but there can only be two.
It means one of us is lying. What's your opinion on that? Who do you think is lying, who is mafia, and who is the SK?

coromandel said:

I've never heard of that role. And can't find anything about it on the internet..
And what makes you think that Shad isn't lying, even though his claim is super vague?

DenjaX said:
@shadroxx2810 I guess you are town then. you should lynch coro~

shadroxx2810 said:


And then let me ask you, why couldn't it be you?
What is your role then.

DenjaX said:
grrr role which is Siren is not even in mafiascum. Good job assuming your role from town of salem. It turns out TPRs are original roles~ I think QUEEN role is also unique.

Retaliator is whoever votes for me will make me automatically vote on the first person. Whatever my choice of vote it wont matter. But it is good thing because my vote still stays on you since you voted me first.

coromandel said:

lol, he can't be town. He said he's 3rd party.


My role is Survivor. I claimed earlier.

coromandel said:

It's not on mafiascum, but if I search for "Siren" I get a decent amount of info. "Retaliator" isn't even on epicmafia, which has thousands of roles listed. x3

If third party only has unique roles, what about the Serial Killer, then?
If you two were both telling the truth about your alignment and role, how do you explain that there've been two kills almost every night?

magicalofmagic said:

I find it extremely unlikely, given the way other TPRs have been, for you to be a plain-old survivor.

coromandel said:

There were a handful of vanilla townies in the game, how is it unlikely for me to be a Survivor?

coromandel said:
There were a handful of vanilla townies in the game, how is it unlikely for me to be a Survivor?

DenjaX said:
Nope you are a fraud. All TPR are unique role. The SK might be called = Yandere idol or something and not SK

grrrr = Siren
QUEEN = Creepy Girl
DenjaX = Retaliator
coro = Yandere stalker? (SK for sure)

@magicalofmagic I want your opinion on this. I am going to leave soon and perhaps you will too. I need to know who do you trust more...

magicalofmagic said:
Hmm, that would make shad mafia, right?
And I'm pretty sure coro's SK, and plus, he's telling the truth- SK is just a survivor, who wants to survive while killing everyone else xD
And if he's a yandere stalker, would that mean that something like, maybe he dies if he kills the person he's stalking?

DenjaX said:
no, shad is definitely townie. I think he might be the jailor here if talon is really vanilla. I think I understand why he had to lie though. xDD

SK: coro

Mafia: Lamby and aa-dono

coromandel said:
Are you telling me you believe Shad who claims to be Oota, the "3rd Party Angel"? -_-

magicalofmagic said:
And I'm pretty sure coro's SK

magicalofmagic said:

You might well be a survivor. But from what I've seen, there should be some kind of quirk in each role.

DenjaX said:
Alright the scum roles are out. This is way too easy. Now we have to see how things will go.

so 3 votes against me.

@shadroxx2810 I guess you are town then. you should lynch coro~

@SoulEaterQUEEN what is your decision?

magicalofmagic said:

Hmm, dono is pretty scummy, I agree.
Did we ever solve the Town RBer possibility?

DenjaX said:
no, shad is definitely townie.

coromandel said:
Are you telling me you believe Shad who claims to be Oota, the "3rd Party Angel"? -_-

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

I don't know just yet. coro has been playing really low key which made me think she was scum earlier on, and she has came out in the final game round to fully claim, her role also makes sense with her playstyle being survivor as well. But I agree so far that I'd expect some unique title with her role or some flavour with the TPR. I mean, I even had a bit of flavour even though I'm technically executionist.

shadroxx claims angel, and I actually buy it. This one comes from epic mafia, and Penta has put into the game. This also explains why there has not been a doctor in the game, and angel is meant to be a bodyguard of sorts but the thing is that I think angel is suppose to die to be protected. But my issue is, why is this considered a third party role - would this not be more of a town aligned one? But if set up follows for TPR balance, there are 1 neutral TPR (me), 1 bad TPR (SK), and 1 good TPR (angel). I honestly thinking more, and coro being survivor is something I feel weird on because my role has a combination of a survivor / exeuctioner, I can technically win by surviving until my target dies by lynch/kill.
@shadroxx, can you tell me whom you tried to protect and why?

What are your thoughts so far? What is your role do again/when did you use your abilities and for what reasoning?

coromandel said:

What makes you think I'm a Serial Killer?

And what do you think of Shad and Denja? Who both claimed 3rd party - when there can only be 1 more in the game.



-_-

And what are the quirks of "vanilla townie"?

magicalofmagic said:

omg you have a point
this is confusing now
ummm @DenjaX what's your win con?

DenjaX said:
I think we have a jailor because Claire mentioned about being confined. aa-dono confirmed it too. Lamby also exposed that they have no mafia roleblocker. I think Jailor blocked the mafia because you were targeted magical according to them.

magicalofmagic said:

The fact that it's not a role madness, I guess. And I really meant, like, PRs. especially TPRs.

I'm pretty sure Denja's what he says he is, but since it's obvious shad's not and Denja just defended him, I'm confused, since we already know one mafia, which means that there's one more, so they can't both be mafia, which means one of them or even both aren't what they say they are, so I have no idea!

DenjaX said:
so shad is actually the TPR jailor then? Alien perhaps? It makes sense because Claire mentioned about being kidnapped. It looks like the work of an oji-san~

My win con is to survive till the end~

Shad is definitely Oji-san~ Now everything makes sense. You kidnap girls~ You are a serial jailor~ you lolicon~

magicalofmagic said:

How do we know Lamby wasn't lying?

DenjaX said:
so shad is actually the TPR jailor then? Alien perhaps? It makes sense because Claire mentioned about being kidnapped. It looks like the work of an oji-san~

My win con is to survive till the end~

Shad is definitely Oji-san~ Now everything makes sense. You kidnap girls~ You are a serial jailor~ you lolicon~

magicalofmagic said:

How do we know Lamby wasn't lying?

magicalofmagic said:

How do we know Lamby wasn't lying?

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

I don't know just yet. coro has been playing really low key which made me think she was scum earlier on, and she has came out in the final game round to fully claim, her role also makes sense with her playstyle being survivor as well. But I agree so far that I'd expect some unique title with her role or some flavour with the TPR. I mean, I even had a bit of flavour even though I'm technically executionist.

shadroxx claims angel, and I actually buy it. This one comes from epic mafia, and Penta has put into the game. This also explains why there has not been a doctor in the game, and angel is meant to be a bodyguard of sorts but the thing is that I think angel is suppose to die to be protected. But my issue is, why is this considered a third party role - would this not be more of a town aligned one? But if set up follows for TPR balance, there are 1 neutral TPR (me), 1 bad TPR (SK), and 1 good TPR (angel). I honestly thinking more, and coro being survivor is something I feel weird on because my role has a combination of a survivor / exeuctioner, I can technically win by surviving until my target dies by lynch/kill.
@shadroxx, can you tell me whom you tried to protect and why?

What are your thoughts so far? What is your role do again/when did you use your abilities and for what reasoning?

coromandel said:

But there've been several Vanilla Townies in the game, so why do you find it unlikely 3rd party has a kind of "vanilla" role as well?

DenjaX said:
Only you can confirm this. You were attacked by the mafia last night but you survived. Were you abducted last night? or probably the mafia was jailed but I'm sure they wont step out

shadroxx2810 said:

Well, My ability limits me to protect 2 person. I have chosen the 2 person when i replaced uuh. But i have yet to used them yet, ebcause i feel they are safe for now.
It's an x shot ability.
That is what I meant when i meant i used it up. sorry sleepy have to re read everything.

DenjaX said:
Can you elaborate your role? Does that mean you can protect a person tonight? Are you a doctor?

magicalofmagic said:

I was attacked by mafia last night?

magicalofmagic said:

Then why is there no Jester? Jester is, beside SK, the most 'vanilla' TPR as you put it.

shadroxx2810 said:


I can only protect a 2 specific person that I choose in the beginning during the night phase.
If they got shot by mafia, I will die instead.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

as third party, how do you win then?

DenjaX said:
Lamby said that you were being targeted but you lived. Were you confined? If not, jailor successfully jailed the mafia killer~

coromandel said:

But there've been several Vanilla Townies in the game, so why do you find it unlikely 3rd party has a kind of "vanilla" role as well?