PentaFlare said: wait. i dont understand your option 2 and option 3. How would Soren not able to post or able to post? As far as i recall, Soren claimed he can still post even if he dies.This is actually perfect. There is a catch all plan to figure this out. Lucian and Soul are confirmed town, so I'm going to set them aside. Therefore, if we Lynch Soren today, it will play out as follows: Option 1: Soren is scum. Game ends. Town win. Option 2: Soren is town, but comes back being unable to post after death. Lynch aa-dono. Town win. Option 3: Soren is town, and can post after death. Lynch DenjaX. Town win. Vote: Soren |
DenjaX said: PentaFlare said: wait. i dont understand your option 2 and option 3. How would Soren not able to post or able to post? As far as i recall, Soren claimed he can still post even if he dies.This is actually perfect. There is a catch all plan to figure this out. Lucian and Soul are confirmed town, so I'm going to set them aside. Therefore, if we Lynch Soren today, it will play out as follows: Option 1: Soren is scum. Game ends. Town win. Option 2: Soren is town, but comes back being unable to post after death. Lynch aa-dono. Town win. Option 3: Soren is town, and can post after death. Lynch DenjaX. Town win. Vote: Soren Only if Aladdin is alive. I claim Aladdin. |
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DenjaX said: PentaFlare said: wait. i dont understand your option 2 and option 3. How would Soren not able to post or able to post? As far as i recall, Soren claimed he can still post even if he dies.This is actually perfect. There is a catch all plan to figure this out. Lucian and Soul are confirmed town, so I'm going to set them aside. Therefore, if we Lynch Soren today, it will play out as follows: Option 1: Soren is scum. Game ends. Town win. Option 2: Soren is town, but comes back being unable to post after death. Lynch aa-dono. Town win. Option 3: Soren is town, and can post after death. Lynch DenjaX. Town win. Vote: Soren Nah, that's conditional only if Aladdin is still in the game. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| @DenjaX btw props on that post with the fact aa-dono investigation on a dead person could be null. It really clarifies the rb thing since I got a PM saying I did, and she didn't get anything. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: @DenjaX btw props on that post with the fact aa-dono investigation on a dead person could be null. It really clarifies the rb thing since I got a PM saying I did, and she didn't get anything. +1 |
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Soren said: No. SoulEaterQUEEN said: I am a watcher I watched night 1 Soren, nothing watched night 2, Penta, nothing - thats why I was very sure you lied what you did with Soren with the flavour cop watched night 3, aa-dono, rbed watched night 4, aa-dono, rbed watched night 5, soren, no reply yet SoulEaterQUEEN said: So what was your result on night 3?I havent, no. edit rbed on night 4, night 5 got no pm reply. LucianRoy said: I can continue to post but not vote after death if aladdin is still alive.What's your ability Soren? @DenjaX |
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| btw I'm curious. not trying to reaffirm confirmation bias with this post I heard of roles where you post the killer name, or get to send a message after death, but continued posting but not vote after you die if another player is in the game - isn't this kinda a weird role? can someone direct me to what the role might be called :p |
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| I think a similar role is ghost, but I'm not certain if that's the official name for it. I saw it used a loooonngg time ago in one of Fo's games I believe. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| P.S. has anyone seen Magi? Because Lamb left hints pointing to his role all over. There was a gif Day 1 I think and we already discussed his "Emiya" name drop. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I found an archived version of a mafiascum thread mentioning the ghost role. http://67.222.17.61/archive/viewtopic.php?t=3545&sid=66c764f021a57cdfb3e15f05d0285369 Cached stuff from their crash. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Soren said: i cursed myselfi guess if you lynch me and i cant post then that confirms that aa-dono is lying about being aladdin but lets not do that lol |
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| Since the roleblock thing got cleared up, let's lynch denja instead Vote: Denjax |
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LucianRoy said: P.S. has anyone seen Magi? Because Lamb left hints pointing to his role all over. There was a gif Day 1 I think and we already discussed his "Emiya" name drop. The Emiya name is referenced to Fate series, and there's two characters that goes b that name: Kiritsugu Emiya and Shirou Emiya. (according to wiki) both are magus, spellcaster. also I checked here, Ugo "is a Magic that Aladdin created". |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: its a ghost role, not very commonbtw I'm curious. not trying to reaffirm confirmation bias with this post I heard of roles where you post the killer name, or get to send a message after death, but continued posting but not vote after you die if another player is in the game - isn't this kinda a weird role? can someone direct me to what the role might be called :p it was used before in werewolf games though http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1209281&show=0 |
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LucianRoy said: I was lynching her because I thought she was scum fake claiming cop.Soren said: hmmm good point. but i'll re-evaluate the denja read once i see what you flip It sounds like you want to lynch Dono for info, but wouldn't (someone else) be the better informative lynch? I'm trying to wrap my head around this a bit better... In other words, what would Dono's lynch prove if she flipped town? |
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why DenjaX? process of elimination? |
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aa-dono said: LucianRoy said: P.S. has anyone seen Magi? Because Lamb left hints pointing to his role all over. There was a gif Day 1 I think and we already discussed his "Emiya" name drop. The Emiya name is referenced to Fate series, and there's two characters that goes b that name: Kiritsugu Emiya and Shirou Emiya. (according to wiki) both are magus, spellcaster. also I checked here, Ugo "is a Magic that Aladdin created". Apparently everyone is either djinn or magician :/ |
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Soren said: If aa dono is investigator, why would you go after me? lol she said Im town. But does that mean my investigation is actually positive?I was lynching her because I thought she was scum fake claiming cop. |
| Well, my lynch is beneficial to town hmmmmm. You guys think that I am town but lynch me anyways to discern whether aa-dono or denja is the last scum. I think the same too but fmpov if we lynch either one and one flips town, then the other one will be scum. For me I'd rather lynch one of them, leaning denja atm. At the same time I can see that my lynch is not only beneficial but also informative to town. Prefer if town doesn't knowingly lynch town though. |
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DenjaX said: Soren said: If aa dono is investigator, why would you go after me? lol she said Im town. But does that mean my investigation is actually positive?I was lynching her because I thought she was scum fake claiming cop. the only doubt is if you have godfather role, and got investigated as town making you scum. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: oh yeah thats true. I even brought it up earlier. but what about my finding about having framer? I suppose godfather who is also a framer can exist.DenjaX said: If aa dono is investigator, why would you go after me? lol she said Im town. But does that mean my investigation is actually positive? the only doubt is if you have godfather role, and got investigated as town making you scum. |
Vote 6.2 aa-dono [ DenjaX ] Soren [ aa-dono, PentaFlare, SoulEaterQueen, LucianRoy ] DenjaX [ Soren ] Players not voting: |
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Soren said: Well, my lynch is beneficial to town hmmmmm. You guys think that I am town but lynch me anyways to discern whether aa-dono or denja is the last scum. I think the same too but fmpov if we lynch either one and one flips town, then the other one will be scum. For me I'd rather lynch one of them, leaning denja atm. At the same time I can see that my lynch is not only beneficial but also informative to town. Prefer if town doesn't knowingly lynch town though. naw, I believed aa-dono more than you and denjax. so sticking to my list. that's why I was very hellbent on figuring out the rb situation because it didn't make sense why she lied about it. another indicator to say she felt town was she was waiting for results like I did cuz Ari didn't post it right away so that's why I felt she was being sincere about it. her vocalness this day phase started throwing me off. you and denjax have done good contribution to help town though, you with your help on game mechanics/watcher ability, and DenjaX on helping clarifying the rb situation. I'm not feeling 100 % comfortable with lynching, but it has to be either one of you, and you give the most info with a lynch. |
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DenjaX said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: oh yeah thats true. I even brought it up earlier. but what about my finding about having framer? I suppose godfather who is also a framer can exist.the only doubt is if you have godfather role, and got investigated as town making you scum. well that's basically what it would have to be lol |
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| but if i believe aa-dono now, she has a town check on denja... and we have established that there is a framer so denja cant be godfather..? |
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Soren said: but if i believe aa-dono now, she has a town check on denja... and we have established that there is a framer so denja cant be godfather..? if you believe aa-dono you believe yourself then basically DenjaX crap about there being a framer is bullox, and he would be godfather or some kind of role that would give him an innocent result. also his finding you guilty in investigation would also be bullox, trying to pin blame on you. |
SoulEaterQUEENMar 6, 2016 1:20 PM
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: hmmm you seemed to be so sure when the only thing thats holding your townie credibility is saying that Penta lied which he always do lol xDD. so scary. But ye, maybe Soren is mafia so we dont need to be scared for Night Phase.Soren said: but if i believe aa-dono now, she has a town check on denja... and we have established that there is a framer so denja cant be godfather..? if you believe aa-dono you believe yourself then basically DenjaX crap about there being a framer is bullox, and he would be godfather or some kind of role that would give him an innocent result. |
DenjaX said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: hmmm you seemed to be so sure when the only thing thats holding your townie credibility is saying that Penta lied which he always do lol xDD. so scary. But ye, maybe Soren is mafia so we dont need to be scared for Night Phase.if you believe aa-dono you believe yourself then basically DenjaX crap about there being a framer is bullox, and he would be godfather or some kind of role that would give him an innocent result. no. this is the main reason why I got town credibiliy. My role existence was basically confirmed under a scum role: LucianRoy said: Soren said: I had my suspicions that perhaps there could be a watcher on the scum team. But this confirms that watcher is on the town team. On top of the "catching penta lying" on day 2, QUEEN has moved to a stronger town read for me. Forgot about the ninja, I have to say, Queen is now up there since the setup basically confirms her role exists. but also, I feel my actions for the most part in this game has been town motivated. |
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| @SoulEaterQueen, Most def, I don't think I ever scumread you once, but I still kept the possibility open that you were fake-claiming until Soren reminded me we had a scum Ninja in the game. Scum ninjas are f*cking based. I need to include one in a setup sometime. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
DenjaX said: No. I am talking about if Lamby is actually the watcher(Jafar) lol. But yeah im just stretching this. Yeah true, then that's where you have to look into my behaviour in the game as town vs my behaviour when I play scum in other games. |
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DenjaX said: No. I am talking about if Lamby is actually the watcher(Jafar) lol. But yeah im just stretching this. Impossible, from Day one Lamb implied that he was a coroner varient, and he confirmed it day 2 indirectly by pointing out Dr_Iss as the real Alibaba. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: @SoulEaterQueen, Most def, I don't think I ever scumread you once, but I still kept the possibility open that you were fake-claiming until Soren reminded me we had a scum Ninja in the game. Scum ninjas are f*cking based. I need to include one in a setup sometime. sorry I used your post as a quote for DenjaX so it was more so a reply to him. |
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LucianRoy said: Alright. If Soren flip town Im gonna cry for survival because I am not godfather xDDDenjaX said: No. I am talking about if Lamby is actually the watcher(Jafar) lol. But yeah im just stretching this. Impossible, from Day one Lamb implied that he was a coroner varient, and he confirmed it day 2 indirectly by pointing out Dr_Iss as the real Alibaba. |
DenjaX said: LucianRoy said: Alright. If Soren flip town Im gonna cry for survival because I am not godfather xDDImpossible, from Day one Lamb implied that he was a coroner varient, and he confirmed it day 2 indirectly by pointing out Dr_Iss as the real Alibaba. why? aa-dono could still be scum if Soren returns from the dead or not. |
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aa-dono said: LucianRoy said: P.S. has anyone seen Magi? Because Lamb left hints pointing to his role all over. There was a gif Day 1 I think and we already discussed his "Emiya" name drop. The Emiya name is referenced to Fate series, and there's two characters that goes b that name: Kiritsugu Emiya and Shirou Emiya. (according to wiki) both are magus, spellcaster. also I checked here, Ugo "is a Magic that Aladdin created". Actually, I believe Lamby was referring to EMIYA, the heroic spirit. I'm not going to explain the difference for the sake of not spoiling anything. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: because aa dono thinks im scum if Soren flip town? she even said it herself.DenjaX said: Alright. If Soren flip town Im gonna cry for survival because I am not godfather xDD why? aa-dono could still be scum if Soren returns from the dead or not. you anchored yourself to town because you said Penta is lying in related with your ability but ye if Soren is what he really is then and if aa-dono can confirm Soren's claim, then we will know the correct course of action next time. Im not mafia so Soren should remain silent after his lynch. Again thats if Soren flip town today. |
DenjaX said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: because aa dono thinks im scum if Soren flip town? she even said it herself.why? aa-dono could still be scum if Soren returns from the dead or not. you anchored yourself to town because you said Penta is lying in related with your ability but ye if Soren is what he really is then and if aa-dono can confirm Soren's claim, then we will know the correct course of action next time. Im not mafia so Soren should remain silent after his lynch. Again thats if Soren flip town today. I think you are worrying too much. All will come clean in the wash. |
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| Still feeling like Soren lynch is A+. Safest and most optimal strat for town by far. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
DenjaX said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: because aa dono thinks im scum if Soren flip town? she even said it herself.why? aa-dono could still be scum if Soren returns from the dead or not. you anchored yourself to town because you said Penta is lying in related with your ability but ye if Soren is what he really is then and if aa-dono can confirm Soren's claim, then we will know the correct course of action next time. Im not mafia so Soren should remain silent after his lynch. Again thats if Soren flip town today. I understand your scepticism. hmm, but my action made sense with my role, so I made a point of that. feel free to read through my posts in the earlier phases, and I will provide clarification for my actions, not much else I can say right now. |
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PentaFlare said: DenjaX said: because aa dono thinks im scum if Soren flip town? she even said it herself. you anchored yourself to town because you said Penta is lying in related with your ability but ye if Soren is what he really is then and if aa-dono can confirm Soren's claim, then we will know the correct course of action next time. Im not mafia so Soren should remain silent after his lynch. Again thats if Soren flip town today. I think you are worrying too much. All will come clean in the wash. basically lol |
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| Rational option > Risky option Different strokes. Different towns. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
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| i hope i can still post after death |
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Soren said: i hope i can still post after death have any final words if you can't? |
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