Art in older mangas, older online scans, and reprints/English published (is there a significant difference?)
| So, I remember some of the older mangas I've read waay back when I used to read manga in bookstores, had art significantly better than what I've seen in scans, and even different scans have noticeable differences in quality (resolution). I think that old mangas get too much flak for art; if you're reading online, older, low resolution scans can make the art look a lot worse than it really is. I'd also expect manga to be changed up when they get published internationally (especially censorship and cutting entire parts out, and sometimes making it read left to right), and when publishing different versions (like in tankoubons), they tend to gain color pages. Does the art change significantly between different versions and adaptations into other languages? An example of two different scans, though I think scan quality can vary much more than this (and also becomes more noticeable when both are monochrome: I'm too lazy to go to a bookstore to try to find differences btw. |
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MortalMelancholy said: I'd also expect manga to be changed up when they get published internationally (especially censorship and cutting entire parts out, and sometimes making it read left to right), and when publishing different versions (like in tankoubons), they tend to gain color pages. Does the art change significantly between different versions and adaptations into other languages? As someone who regularly reads manga in ~4 different languages and editions... no there's not that much difference at all. Part of it is that there's very little time and effort than can be put into changing things for foreign editions by the original author and publisher. Also, there's very little censorship of the art - the only one that comes to mind is a couple of panels of Fullmetal Alchemist changing a cross-shaped rock to a... rock-shaped rock I guess. This was done in the English edition, though I'm not sure about other languages or later editions. The only manga I know to have "entire parts cut out" of its English version was Here is Greenwood, where a bunch of unrelated short-stories were cut because they didn't have anything to do with the series. I've never heard of a manga have parts of the actual plot removed. Colour pages were also always there - manga's made for a magazine run first, which is where those colours come in. Bound manga is generally a pulp format - you make it as low-cost as possible and sell as many as you can, so printing in pages for a tankouban edition isn't done. You can restore the colour for kanzenban editions, though, and sometimes the mangaka will go back and redraw parts of it. But that's if the author has time and there's a demand for it - a kanzenban is usually 2-3 times the price of a tankouban, so it only gets made if there's an audience. (To my knowledge.) The left-to-right thing has generally been abandoned - the last manga I bought this way was Osamu Tezuka's A Message to Adolf, which they were clearly aiming at people who didn't typically read manga, and was by the then-small Vertical, Inc. (Vertical is since doing normal-direction but oddly-proportioned series like Ajin and Wolfsmund, so I guess they changed this?) However, this was just mirroring the art and not really "altering" it, I would say. Scan quality, print quality, and clean-up quality are all a factor in how good a scan or a comic look. And that, kids, is why you buy legit when and where you can! |
| Hmm, good to know~ thanks. I don't really have space for physical copies of anything, really, so I guess I'll visit the library more, for old mangas. |
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MortalMelancholy said: Hmm, good to know~ thanks. I don't really have space for physical copies of anything, really, so I guess I'll visit the library more, for old mangas. Libraries are a great resource too, since some money goes back to the publishers when books are circulated! Plus, they're free, require none of your own space, and you're not annoying the bookstore workers by sitting in the aisles... Have you tried manga apps like Crunchyroll or similar? I have no idea how far back they go, but they might be a helpful resource. |
Fengwu said: MortalMelancholy said: Hmm, good to know~ thanks. I don't really have space for physical copies of anything, really, so I guess I'll visit the library more, for old mangas. Libraries are a great resource too, since some money goes back to the publishers when books are circulated! Plus, they're free, require none of your own space, and you're not annoying the bookstore workers by sitting in the aisles... Have you tried manga apps like Crunchyroll or similar? I have no idea how far back they go, but they might be a helpful resource. Yeah, I use Mangabox a lot; they publish English translated manga, sometimes earlier than the original Japanese manga (online, at least). |
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| Older manga looks simpler and slightly more cartoony. There's also the difference between older and newer scans that impact how it looks but not how it actually is. It's really just the fact that the manga/anime industry has had time to grow, become more influential, become more influenced by other cultures, and become a more competitive industry. Also, this may just be me, but I've always thought that older manga is more perverted and/or violent. Again, this may just be because of the older manga I've read. |
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