BadJuju said: Just out of interest and for the reason I want to prove you and Lupa are mafia, what information did he fabricate?grave_robber said: So to sum up: 3) Jujube: anti-town for helping out lupadim by unvoting for him for no reason at all. 4) grave_robber: for fabricating information. |
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| No Grave I do come out an play but i haven't really since much to respond to i do think Juju is mafia just like you but I'm suspicious of Karote since he voted for me after Juju said to vote for me |
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Hime-sama said: grave_robber said: LoveandHate91, come out and play with us, or do you only answer when someone votes for you? =3 @Hime, we shall see. Only time will tell ^^ Okay, i will agree with you there, time will tell. But to be honest i do know which twin i can trust. since blu-eyes hasnt said anything hugely except 667b but im leaning towards 667b to lynch but i gotta see with blu-eyes of what they will say too. For effing crying out loud. @Grave How does the diplomat shebang work? |
| L sy Kngru n weky shky tiem trvL |
-Blonde- said: BadJuju said: Just out of interest and for the reason I want to prove you and Lupa are mafia, what information did he fabricate?4) grave_robber: for fabricating information. That there was no reason for the reason. |
| Might as well vote for who I think is suspicious [b]Vote:BadJuju |
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LoveandHate91 said: Might as well vote for who I think is suspicious Vote:BadJuju That's not suspicion. You just like to act out of revenge. |
BadJuju said: Wow. Nice avoiding of the question, you and Lupa are so scummy it actually amazes me.-Blonde- said: Just out of interest and for the reason I want to prove you and Lupa are mafia, what information did he fabricate? That there was no reason for the reason. |
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-Blonde- said: BadJuju said: Wow. Nice avoiding of the question, you and Lupa are so scummy it actually amazes me.That there was no reason for the reason. What? I gave you the answer. |
| You are suspicious in my book your trying to get the person who's has the lynch train to reveal there role but that just gives Misa a free kill but if i was on revenge i would vote Karote the one who voted on me |
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BadJuju said: grave_robber said: So to sum up: 3) Jujube: anti-town for helping out lupadim by unvoting for him for no reason at all. 4) grave_robber: for fabricating information. Psssh, all they have to do is look themselves http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1375376&show=150#msg39418802 |
grave_robber said: BadJuju said: 4) grave_robber: for fabricating information. Psssh, all they have to do is look themselves http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1375376&show=150#msg39418802 Yeah. They just have to look two posts upwards. |
| Well I've got nothing else to add besides to leave and come back tmrw to see who's up for the guillotine. |
| L sy Kngru n weky shky tiem trvL |
| That doesn't even make sense. I helped lupadim because I unvoted him "for no reason", but then I voted him in the first place "for no reason", so I didn't help him? |
LoveandHate91 said: No Grave I do come out an play but i haven't really since much to respond to i do think Juju is mafia just like you but I'm suspicious of Karote since he voted for me after Juju said to vote for me Karote pulls stuff like that all time, it's not alignment indicative yet. Once people starting flipping, we'll know. The diplomat send a pm to CC or doughkey saying they wanna invite players A & B to talk privately, the hosts (CC or Doughkey) will invite said payers via pm saying the following: You are player A You have been invited by the diplomat to talk privately to player B. Player B is Shion. Link to DRRRChat to some other anonymous way of communication You are player B You have been invited by the diplomat to talk privately to player A. Player A is Mion. Link to DRRRChat to some other anonymous way of communication |
grave_robber said: LoveandHate91 said: No Grave I do come out an play but i haven't really since much to respond to i do think Juju is mafia just like you but I'm suspicious of Karote since he voted for me after Juju said to vote for me Karote pulls stuff like that all time, it's not alignment indicative yet. Once people starting flipping, we'll know. The diplomat send a pm to CC or doughkey saying they wanna invite players A & B to talk privately, the hosts (CC or Doughkey) will invite said payers via pm saying the following: You are player A You have been invited by the diplomat to talk privately to player B. Player B is Shion. Link to DRRRChat to some other anonymous way of communication You are player B You have been invited by the diplomat to talk privately to player A. Player A is Mion. Link to DRRRChat to some other anonymous way of communication If the Diplomat is willing, I'll talk with you, not that there will be anything different to add. Anyways later. |
| L sy Kngru n weky shky tiem trvL |
grave_robber said: Depends on how many groups you're diving them into, for example, we cannot have the power roles grouped together. I kinda like this idea, but I don't think it's necessary just yet. I don't wanna give the baddies (misa in particular) and ideas about townie roles. Exactly, that is made a list with how I see each role power, so we can divide them in equally powerful groups (The only one who commented the list though was lupadim, I wonder if others agree with my numbers or just don't want to comment). Others wanted to wait before we do that but I feel that the earlier we force small claims it will be harder for the mafia to support their claim. Honestly though, as there are 3/4 parties in this game I think that the first days aren't important at all and whichever party takes the lead the other parties will just focus it more, so the last days will be the most important one I guess. I also agree with Suzune that no lynch in this game would decrease our chance to win, and if lupadim don't tries to defend himself soon, probably it will be a good lynch. |
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BadJuju said: That doesn't even make sense. I helped lupadim because I unvoted him "for no reason", but then I voted him in the first place "for no reason", so I didn't help him? Or you're both mafia from the same team and you voted for him on day 1 so that if either of you flips, the other will look townie. Basic mafia tactics. Once the votes started early on, you knew you could still get someone else lynched, so why sacrifice your fellow mafioso? you unvoted under the pretence of your random beasties alliance when in reality, there was no reason for you to do so since he was saying some very suspicious things. |
| Grrr I don't get your list and its a horrible idea if we start splitting people up into groups it gives the mafias and Misa easier targets |
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grave_robber said: BadJuju said: That doesn't even make sense. I helped lupadim because I unvoted him "for no reason", but then I voted him in the first place "for no reason", so I didn't help him? Or you're both mafia from the same team and you voted for him on day 1 so that if either of you flips, the other will look townie. Basic mafia tactics. Once the votes started early on, you knew you could still get someone else lynched, so why sacrifice your fellow mafioso? you unvoted under the pretence of your random beasties alliance when in reality, there was no reason for you to do so since he was saying some very suspicious things. Well, I know for a fact that he's not from my Mafia team. Maybe he's from the other one, I don't know. Your theory is null. |
| I wanna talk with shion privately XD |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| I also take offense that you talk about me and include "basic mafia tactics". I thought I seemed more advanced in people's eyes. |
| Juju stop trying to be funny and trolling thats one of the things i don't like about you in games |
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grrr88 said: grave_robber said: Depends on how many groups you're diving them into, for example, we cannot have the power roles grouped together. I kinda like this idea, but I don't think it's necessary just yet. I don't wanna give the baddies (misa in particular) and ideas about townie roles. Exactly, that is made a list with how I see each role power, so we can divide them in equally powerful groups (The only one who commented the list though was lupadim, I wonder if others agree with my numbers or just don't want to comment). Others wanted to wait before we do that but I feel that the earlier we force small claims it will be harder for the mafia to support their claim. Honestly though, as there are 3/4 parties in this game I think that the first days aren't important at all and whichever party takes the lead the other parties will just focus it more, so the last days will be the most important one I guess. I also agree with Suzune that no lynch in this game would decrease our chance to win, and if lupadim don't tries to defend himself soon, probably it will be a good lynch. As I recall, there was 1 or 2 roles missing, I just skimmed over the list tbh. I don't think it's a good idea to do this on day 1, maybe mid or late in the game, once we need a mass claim. With Misa and conversion powers around (not mention ones that can copy or inherit abilities), I don't wanna give the mafia a smaller target pool. |
BadJuju said: I also take offense that you talk about me and include "basic mafia tactics". I thought I seemed more advanced in people's eyes. You are, which is why I said "probably" not definitely. It's all good jujube, no matter who flips today, we'll learn sth for sure. |
BadJuju said: grave_robber said: Or you're both mafia from the same team and you voted for him on day 1 so that if either of you flips, the other will look townie. Basic mafia tactics. Once the votes started early on, you knew you could still get someone else lynched, so why sacrifice your fellow mafioso? you unvoted under the pretence of your random beasties alliance when in reality, there was no reason for you to do so since he was saying some very suspicious things. Well, I know for a fact that he's not from my Mafia team. Maybe he's from the other one, I don't know. Your theory is null. That sounds like a confession o.O I would also like to note that lupadim practically already partially claimed a role. He is definetely acting scummy. At this rate his is probably gonna be lynched. What do you think: Should we force him to fully claim? |
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grrr88 said: I take that back. I missed the post where he said his role isn't important.and if lupadim don't tries to defend himself soon, probably it will be a good lynch. As I recall, there was 1 or 2 roles missing (only mion is missing as we know who the mions are). And yeah, I see too many people disagree to do it so it won't happen it seems. Random lynch is okay too, though it looks boring to me. |
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LoveandHate91 said: Juju stop trying to be funny and trolling thats one of the things i don't like about you in games Don't be mad because you didn't get a Beasties invitation. |
blu-eyes said: I wanna talk with shion privately XD I'd rather talk to one of the mafia bosses (alien or Dio). That would be the coolest lynch =3 BadJuju said: grave_robber said: Or you're both mafia from the same team and you voted for him on day 1 so that if either of you flips, the other will look townie. Basic mafia tactics. Once the votes started early on, you knew you could still get someone else lynched, so why sacrifice your fellow mafioso? you unvoted under the pretence of your random beasties alliance when in reality, there was no reason for you to do so since he was saying some very suspicious things. Well, I know for a fact that he's not from my Mafia team. Maybe he's from the other one, I don't know. Your theory is null. Hmm, someone doesn't like my theory. Oh well, I still like it and think it can be valid =3 |
BadJuju said: NosferatuHisham, where are you? Right here, you miss me already? or are you looking for a scapegoat to put under suspicions? :P |
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| Right.... Now what am I meant to do.. O.I. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| I personally think that everyone should stop trying to sway the diplomat. I mean, how scummy is that, you are trying to actively manipulate another player. It looks like the set up for a false claim. |
 Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
NosferatuHisham said: BadJuju said: NosferatuHisham, where are you? Right here, you miss me already? or are you looking for a scapegoat to put under suspicions? :P Nah, I have LoveandHate for that. I just need you to say something. |
blu-eyes said: Right.... Now what am I meant to do.. O.I. Poke people? Suzune-chan said: I personally think that everyone should stop trying to sway the diplomat. I mean, how scummy is that, you are trying to actively manipulate another player. It looks like the set up for a false claim. I don't believe anyone is trying to sway the diplomat, if anything, we're asking for their help. As a townie, the diplomat can be very helpful, especially today when there's little to no info to go on. Suggesting that it's suspicious to ask the diplomat for help and labeling it as "swaying" them is even more suspicious imo. |
Suzune-chan said: I personally think that everyone should stop trying to sway the diplomat. I mean, how scummy is that, you are trying to actively manipulate another player. It looks like the set up for a false claim. This role was used to great effect in the HXH game to find SK and a mafia so I think we should use it in a similar way on people we suspect. Also the end of the day it is the diplomat's choice if they want to listen to them. I see this more as giving them choice rather than manipulating them. Imo this would also make it harder to false claim as well unless both parties invited are mafia and lie about each others roles to cover each other. |
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Grave said: I guess. However, it is an example of you lied; I implied, manipulation. I am merely suggesting something that seems obvious so it will seem like your idea when you take it. It is a backhanded form of manipulation. So be it that it is the first day and all information roles are still in place. Ordering around some poor person, especially if the one calling the shots is mafia, is putting their power into the mafia hands. Suzune-chan said: I personally think that everyone should stop trying to sway the diplomat. I mean, how scummy is that, you are trying to actively manipulate another player. It looks like the set up for a false claim. I don't believe anyone is trying to sway the diplomat, if anything, we're asking for their help. As a townie, the diplomat can be very helpful, especially today when there's little to no info to go on. Suggesting that it's suspicious to ask the diplomat for help and labeling it as "swaying" them is even more suspicious imo. Even a good power, used under manipulation or with the best misguided intentions, can be used against the town. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Jackrito said: I am aware of the use it had and I saw the results once before first hand. However, if we cry to the diplomate every time we have a problem, then we will stop thinking and working things out. It also makes them an easier target for the mafia to find. Just my opinion on the matter.Suzune-chan said: I personally think that everyone should stop trying to sway the diplomat. I mean, how scummy is that, you are trying to actively manipulate another player. It looks like the set up for a false claim. This role was used to great effect in the HXH game to find SK and a mafia so I think we should use it in a similar way on people we suspect. Also the end of the day it is the diplomat's choice if they want to listen to them. I see this more as giving them choice rather than manipulating them. Imo this would also make it harder to false claim as well unless both parties invited are mafia and lie about each others roles to cover each other. |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
| Imagine a Mafia member telling the chef to hook up two Townies. |
Suzune-chan said: Grave said: I guess. However, it is an example of you lied; I implied, manipulation. I am merely suggesting something that seems obvious so it will seem like your idea when you take it. It is a backhanded form of manipulation. So be it that it is the first day and all information roles are still in place. Ordering around some poor person, especially if the one calling the shots is mafia, is putting their power into the mafia hands. I don't believe anyone is trying to sway the diplomat, if anything, we're asking for their help. As a townie, the diplomat can be very helpful, especially today when there's little to no info to go on. Suggesting that it's suspicious to ask the diplomat for help and labeling it as "swaying" them is even more suspicious imo. Even a good power, used under manipulation or with the best misguided intentions, can be used against the town. True that mafia can lead, and as much as I would love to have a confirmed townie be paired up with someone today, even Mion isn't confirmed and if shion is paired up with someone, they have no reason to tell us the truth. Even later, the diplomat has to carefully choose who to invite, because we have conversions in this game. All this, doesn't mean that the diplomat should let these fears and possibilities stop them from using their power to help the town. Suzune-chan said: I am merely suggesting something that seems obvious so it will seem like your idea when you take it. It is a backhanded form of manipulation. I don't think I get this part, what seems obvious and what would seem like my idea when I take it and how are those things a form of manipulation? |
BadJuju said: Imagine a Mafia member telling the chef to hook up two Townies. That is not a bad thing it means they can have a discussion with each other share suspects and ideas with no risk of the other been bad. If they are both roles that can work with each other it would be even better for them. I believe Lucian and Grave used it that way in the HXH game. It is not the best outcome but has many advantages. |
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BadJuju said: Imagine a Mafia member telling the chef to hook up two Townies. Would be funny and helpful to the town ^^ |
| Imagine the chef hooking me and Mion up. Wait.... I don't understand these roles :D. (the other Mion, yaknow) |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| Oh, I miss judged the Diplomat power. I though he chooses 2 roles and those roles have private conversation. But it seems he chooses players and not roles. So if townie and mafia are selected the townie can say that the other guy was mafia and the diplomat can say who the other guy was. |
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| Bad Juju, what is "The Clutching Owl" ?? |
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grave_robber said: It is convincing someone that it is their idea to pair them up, when they have played into the situation. It may not entirely pertain to this situation.Suzune-chan said: I am merely suggesting something that seems obvious so it will seem like your idea when you take it. It is a backhanded form of manipulation. I don't think I get this part, what seems obvious and what would seem like my idea when I take it and how are those things a form of manipulation? |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
grrr88 said: Bad Juju, what is "The Clutching Owl" ?? That's part of my role. I need that there. |
| So many damn pages... Damn it, why |
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SodaWithYoda said: It is a good thing. More pages means more talking.So many damn pages... Damn it, why |
Where there is no imagination there is no horror. || Arthur Conan Doyle || Happy Halloween! |
Jackrito said: BadJuju said: Imagine a Mafia member telling the chef to hook up two Townies. That is not a bad thing it means they can have a discussion with each other share suspects and ideas with no risk of the other been bad. If they are both roles that can work with each other it would be even better for them. I believe Lucian and Grave used it that way in the HXH game. It is not the best outcome but has many advantages. Indeed, but at the time, the chef didn't know I was town, the chef's pattern in that game was to invite a confirmed townie (lucian on day 1 & 2) and the main suspect. When the chef invited me and lucian, lucian was able to give me the identity of the SK and I was able to give him some information as well. The role also helped lucian on day 1, he was paired with the SK who then gave him the identity of a mafia player we they worked out a deal between the town and the SK. Anyhow, the diplomat ultimately chooses their targets, we can just give them options. Like I said, I for one am not afraid of being invited by the diplomat. ^^ |
Suzune-chan said: grave_robber said: It is convincing someone that it is their idea to pair them up, when they have played into the situation. It may not entirely pertain to this situation.I don't think I get this part, what seems obvious and what would seem like my idea when I take it and how are those things a form of manipulation? Oh ok, I'm not that good a manipulator though. Maybe someday =3 grrr88 said: Oh, I miss judged the Diplomat power. I though he chooses 2 roles and those roles have private conversation. But it seems he chooses players and not roles. So if townie and mafia are selected the townie can say that the other guy was mafia and the diplomat can say who the other guy was. Well, in this case, I just wanted the diplomat to pair me up with 667b and I would know if they were shion or not. But then 667b confessed so I asked the diplomat to pair others with me. |
Suzune-chan said: SodaWithYoda said: It is a good thing. More pages means more talking.So many damn pages... Damn it, why And more reading My eyes... Vote Change Lupa I haven't read it all, but so far this feels right |
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