| Orochimaru used Sound Village. Pein used Orochimaru. Nagato used Pein. Obito used Nagato. Madara used Obito. Third Son used Madara. Kaguya used Third Son. That's some good writting right here. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramem guy was pullings the strings all along. What happened to ninjas? what happened to hand seals? what happened to shurikens? |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
FlareStar101 said: Orochimaru used Sound Village. Pein used Orochimaru. Nagato used Pein. Obito used Nagato. Madara used Obito. Third Son used Madara. Kaguya used Third Son. That's some good writting right here. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramem guy was pullings the strings all along. What happened to ninjas? what happened to hand seals? what happened to shurikens? And don't forget all of this conflict actually caused by a stone. That's so pitiful because after all of that boasting about "my ideal worlds" this and that. Actually all of them was being tricked by a rewritten stone. So much suck for villain side. Then, jreng jrenng jreng. the goddess appear! So where was from that NOT a troll??? |
| With how Kishimoto is handling the current arc, it's a trainwreck. Plot twist: Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
sarroushJul 7, 2014 6:58 AM
FlareStar101 said: Orochimaru used Sound Village. Pein used Orochimaru. Nagato used Pein. Obito used Nagato. Madara used Obito. Third Son used Madara. Kaguya used Third Son. That's some good writting right here. I wouldn't be surprised if the ramem guy was pullings the strings all along. God I laughed so much... |
| Thread moved Moved to proper series board. |
| Nagato and Konan was planning on killing Obito. We already knew that he had different plans are the ten tails. Konan was studying he abilities. |
| Hate bandwagon. Nothing new. |
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| Op u should have posted this in the Naruto forums for some delicious Naruto fanboys rage |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
tsudecimo said: Hate bandwagon. Nothing new. Or disliking ruined potential and bad plot twists? |
MrLief said: tsudecimo said: Hate bandwagon. Nothing new. Or disliking ruined potential and bad plot twists? One plot twist. Sure, I can respect that. But trolling claims? The problem with that, is that from what I know, the people who do this, never liked the series or thought it was good to begin with. They keep reading because it's popular and want to voice their vocal hate, and unpopular opinions, piss off the fans, etc. And apparently finishing something you started, is worth going through something that you don't enjoy or find good for years. |
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detectivekillua said: my major issue with naruto all started with this final war arc, all the stuff before was actually good. for example one of the things that i hate the most is how madara was hyped up for soooo many chapters , from the beginning of shippuden basically and how he had great development and power , and then he gets a shitty ending with no real effort put into defeating him at all and on top of that getting replaced with a villian that was only introduced like 10 chapters before madaras defeat and hasnt shown any feats of how shes all powerful , the fight currently going on is basically her travelling from one dimension to another and switching dimensions,,, thats all she displayed for the past couple of chapters and just came out of nowhere ,,,, this is really an anti climactic way for naruto to end in my opinion ,,, with this undeveloped villian ,, Yeah I agree. Madara was the perfect final antagonist of the series. But then again it's only been less than 10 chapters since Kagyua came into the plot as another antagonist. I think she has the potential to be interesting (I really liked her crying over her sons for example), and maybe Madara will make a come back, too early to tell imo. I don't think that's the final arc tho. There have to be a mini arc, to conclude everything in the series, after the war is officially over. |
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tsudecimo said: MrLief said: Or disliking ruined potential and bad plot twists? One plot twist. Sure, I can respect that. But trolling claims? The problem with that, is that from what I know, the people who do this, never liked the series or thought it was good to begin with. They keep reading because it's popular and want to voice their vocal hate, and unpopular opinions, piss off the fans, etc. And apparently finishing something you started, is worth going through something that you don't enjoy or find good for years. There were multiple plot twists. The main villain is uninteresting in comparison to Madara, the character who we've been getting exposition about since the first 100 chapters. This was a story about Ninjas vs Ninjas, stealth, deception, the shinobi way. It's turned to utter rubbish with the introduction of Kaguya this "all powerful God" who was randomly thrown into this already drawn out fight scene to only drag it out longer. -Edit- Naruto was the series that introduced me to anime/manga, I've been watching and reading it since it first aired on Toonami a Saturday long ago. The start was great and the majority of it didn't disappoint after the time-skip. I was so goddamn excited when Madara was thrown into the mix last year because he was the greatest antagonist to end Naruto with, his whole demeanor was just epic! But now he's been sidelined by some chakra entity because we've entered plot twist inception. Also this fight scene has lasted way too fucking long, the action has gotten so repetitive. I think Madara was introduced around chapter 600, so they've been fighting the same three people Obito/Madara/Kaguya for 80 chapters, that's almost 1/7 of this manga that has been ongoing since 1999. -Edit- Trolling is a stupid claim I do agree with you, I doubt a mangaka who's been writing this long with troll his audience with the ending on purpose. It's just bad writing which is quite depressing for people who've followed and loved the series for so long. |
MrLiefJul 18, 2014 1:08 PM
MrLief said: There were multiple plot twists. It's one big plot twist, Madara getting backstabbed and replaced with someone else because of Black zetsu. Well I guess it can be looked at as multiple twists, but that's besides the point anyway. I think the manga stepped out of the ninja vs ninja realm way before Kageya. I have my problems with that plot twist and I think it's badly written until proven otherwise in future chapters, the manga not being about ninja anymore is not one of them. If Kageya wasn't there, Madara for all intended purposes was/can be called a god. -Edit- 1 I agree with most of your points. But I don't really agree with the action/fight being repetitive. I found the conflicts between the central characters of the war arc, quite engaging and interesting, and I'm not sure what else you want from it. The alternative did happen, with Kagyua being the only antagonist now (along with black zetsu), but I don't see many people happy with that development, including you as you stated it. Kagyua was officially a character in the current plot for only 7 chapters (678-685). Feel like people are exaggeration how underdeveloped/bad she is, when we still didn't get to see much focus on her. Yes, I agree that, she will never be better than Madara most likely, but the future with her remains to be seen. I reckon her origins to be interesting, and I'm looking forward to that, and the dimensions might be more than just a power, some theories about it seemed plausible. -Edit- 2 Trolling is a stupid claim I do agree with you, I doubt a mangaka who's been writing this long with troll his audience with the ending on purpose. It's just bad writing which is quite depressing for people who've followed and loved the series for so long. Yes. Well, at least we have some agreements and understanding about this. But that's my point, the people most vocal about the latest plot twist, did not love the manga, and are just disappointed/frustrated with only the current twist, they never did, and they were ''bitching'' about the manga long before chapter 677-78. I can even name some if you care to. My point that they are not actually fans, and never were. I'm talking about my personal experience of course, yours might differ. But it shouldn't come as shock to you, that some people watch/read only because it's popular. |
tsudecimoJul 18, 2014 1:32 PM
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| From the rumors I heard he puts something that puts aizen to shame. But making Kyuubi a good guy and Edo Tensei, and the terrible writing are all factors in making him a kubo. OH AND DID I MENTION TOBITO |
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