Show topic: xxxHolic: Kei. Start date 9/03/08

shinigami said:
The season started off much better than expected. In fact the eps were better than most, if not all, of last season. It helps that it's just 13 eps, it also helps that the characters have been established (as poorly as they were) - speaking of which, the charaterization in these 2 eps is promising, maybe things will change more rapidly now (as opposed to..none at all, like before) - and it also helps that we got into a story arc right off the bat.

The story arc is longer and more significant than anything we've seen so far - more than 2 eps, already involving all recurring characters, i.e. also the Vestal and her guardians.

There was nothing that bothered me about these 2 eps, not even Watanuki. Himawari's role is interesting, and her nonreaction to the events even more so.

shinigami said:
Also, not that it actually bothers me, but there's supposedly 11 of us watching yet most of them didn't comment even once on the first series or the movie, so are they still on for season 2 or is the list no longer accurate?

chococat109 said:
I'm behind in my episodes. I'm still watching the first season.

I did watch the first episode of season 2. I'm really liking the series and it looks like season 2 won't disappoint me.

Anyone have any ideas about what's up with Himiwari? Is she bad luck?

demondude777 said:


I would guess just bad luck for Watanuki, but i am still curious about the Monkey's Paw episode from the first season. I am guessing like Doumeki in the beginning she is unaware of her influence.

demondude777 said:
This is getting better and better. Looks like we will find the tie in with Himiwari after all!

=Þ on you bmfreak for knowing everything!!!!

You know..this might just be a random thought from out of nowhere...but does anyone find it weird how Yuuko depends on Watanuki, but had no one before him?

Maybe i am coming from left fiend...but do you all think that he may have something to do with the shop actually coming to be...like he wished it into existence. So far he has been the only one to have to pay with servitude...everyone else just pays their price and leaves.

It is just weird that he is so tied to Yuuko to where she really won't let him leave...what did she do before him?

shinigami said:
What ep is everyone watching?

My opinion on Yuuko:
1. Omfg, what would Yuuko do without Watanuki cooking for her? Go out to eat? Seriously, I don't see her as helpless, she just acts that part very well. :D Yuuko helpless. ROFL.

chococat109 said:
So who's your favorite character?

StabbyPWNS said:

I just caught up!! Episode 3! I wanna read the manga so bad... but I hate watching Animes and reading their mangas at the same time... it ruins it for me somehow. T_T

XD I wonder how Yuuko lasted before Watanuki came into the picture.... My very refined and educated guess : Pizza Hut. ^__^

Tough choice.... right now... it's a tie between Doumeki, Mokona and the Ame- Warashi. (cause I liek her hair xD)

But Yuuko and Watanuki chibiez pwn so hard so I can't pick. >_>
And who could forget Maru and Moru?? Or the Pipe Fox? Zashiki Warashi? (basically just listing all the characters) >.<

shinigami said:

D.D., what ep prompted your Yuuko comment?

chococat said:
So who's your favorite character?

demondude777 said:
I was actually surprised that Watanuki took a piece of Doumeki's eye in the third ep. The way he denies they are friends...i would have expected him to turn it down. Looks like they are becoming a lot closer in this series.

shinigami said:

* Why is Watanuki's eye back to normal (i.e. looks normal) with no explanation? At first when he saw Himawari's hands go dark aura I thought it's part of Doumeki's power helping see she's bad luck or sth. But it wasn't. Then again Doumeki didn't have the power to see anything, as far as we know. Plus, it's only half his eye (how did THAT work out into 2 functional eyes anyway?).

shinigami said:
* Doumeki seeing through the eye he gave Watanuki = win! Finally they explore the eye issue. Also, "I only see what affects your emotions" wouldn't actually be that comforting, especially considering how all over the place Watanuki's emotional reactions are. :))

shinigami said:
* I like that for once Watanuki didn't explode when Doumeki appeared (as usual) and called him a moron (as usual). Hopefully he too got tired of that routine.

shinigami said:
* Kohane = promising character. I hope the series won't fall into zomfg!uberdrama cliches though.

Batmanfreak said:

When you finish the anime, you should read the manga! It is one of my favorites!

StabbyPWNS said:


Well it's already on my plan to read list... so I'll get around to it eventually. ^_^
Before I saw the first episode of xxxHolic, I didn't really think there would be this much comedy in it. Kinda expected it to be darker... slightly bloodier.... I guess that's what I get for not reading reviews and stuff. >_>

It's still a pwnsome series though. =3

Episode 4:
~ I liked the references to the oden stand. I always loved that little fox dude.
~ Anyone else think the dream seller looked like a carny?? Anyone? Someone agree with me before I start feeling stupid. >_<
~ The mismatched eyes would be awesome... but I guess that would screw a few things up if a person had blue eyes and then a green one and a blue one a few days later. Too noticeable I guess.

Episode 5:
~ Kohane really doesn't seem liek she's in elementary school. (except for her incredible shortness compared to all the other charrie's incredible tallness)
~ Waaait...did Watanuki's eye just change color in the middle of the episode then change back??? Now that's just a bit odd. o_o
~ I already hate Kohane's mom... but Kohane seems liek a really good character. ^^
~ I think... Doumeki just sees the spirits that get Watanuki worked up? Does that mean that Watanuki can see normal things from Doumeki's eye when he gets worked up? (liek that'll ever happen)

Episode 6:
~ Filler episode? Until the end with the cherry blossom woman that is.
~ Watanuki slightly annoyed me this episode. ^^"
~ Why'd they say Mokona was a girl? Mokona's a dude right? o_O
~ I didn't get the Mahjong references at all. ><

*phew* w00t!! I'm finally caught up! Again! >w<

StabbyPWNS said:
Episode 6:
~ Filler episode? Until the end with the cherry blossom woman that is.
~ Watanuki slightly annoyed me this episode. ^^"
~ Why'd they say Mokona was a girl? Mokona's a dude right? o_O
~ I didn't get the Mahjong references at all. ><

shinigami said:

Batmanfreak, can you stop quoting entire posts with other quotes nested in them just to add one sentence? It's distracting. Leave just the relevant paragraph or say sth like "@Stabby"... in case you wonder if someone gets who you reply to or not.

shinigami said:

I'd also say filler episode. Watanuki annoyed me as much as he usually does, though yeah, it was irritating to see him revert to _that_ after the better previous episodes.

And WHY were both Ame Warashi and Zashiki Warashi there? For a friendly visit? Wtf?! Before it's been a major deal that ZW is in the human world and AW came to get her back and all that. And now... whoosh, they just drop in to have dinner?

shinigami said:

Mokona is genderless. And awesome.

chococat109 said:
Anyone up for a game of Mah Jong. :)

StabbyPWNS said:

I love the cat girl... I'm glad she didn't have just one appearance. =D
I wonder if they EVER plan to tell us what Himawari is.... I was waiting all first season for that. T_T
and even when things get amazingly serious with the corpses and everything... Mokona's always there to make things all happy-ish!!
I thought the corpse looked a lot liek Kohane. o_o

demondude777 said:
It seems liek a lot of character designs for the most part are kind of recycled.

demondude777 said:
Also there are 3 OVAs coming out soon so i doubt we will find out about Himawari. Ugh...lol

demondude777 said:
Did any seem like there was an error in it....this is totally bugging me.....when Watanuki covered Doumeki's left eye? Judging that Doumeki can see what Watanuki sees...wouldn't he have to cover his own left eye and not Doumeki's?

demondude777 said:
@shinigami - I want to learn the real Mahjong rahter then a lighter version of it...:)

shinigami said:
Let's hope not. Series that only finish in OVAs released a lot later really suck.

shinigami said:
Wow, score! I didn't notice that and I think you are right. After all Doumeki saw things when he wasn't present, so it's 100% certain he sees what Watanuki's eye sees, regardless of what he himself is looking at.

shinigami said:
I want that too. Especially since I already play http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rummikuband I like the feeling of the tiles. And the clicking. ;)

chococat109 said:
I think i'm the only one who doesn't think Watanuki is annoying.

chococat109 said:
How is that bad luck?

chococat109 said:
So is Himawari just bad luck for Watnuki or for everyone. or is it something else?

shinigami said:

I didn't think it particularly unlucky when they found the body, but the dialogue with Yuuko establishes that it was bad luck for Watanuki since he would have preferred not to know. And they could have found the cat (their "mission") and solved the real issue even without getting into the house.

shinigami said:

About Himawari being bad luck, she was bad luck for the chick with the monkey's paw too, remember? Plus, assuming that Himawari knows she is bad luck for Watanuki (and that's why she is avoiding interracting with him in a more personal way, i.e. not just school mates that get along and share secrets - ep 8, though one wonders what made her change attitude), I think that if she was bad luck just for him she'd be "rational" enough to hang out with someone else.

demondude777 said:
Plus she doesn't seem to affect Doumeki in any way.

shinigami said:
When Doumeki had Himawari's book and the worm got out and f*cked them over by eating the spell that could have removed the spider's curse, that wasn't unlucky just for Watanuki. Besides, Doumeki lost his grandpa's spell, the worm was stopped before doing more damage only because Yuuko got there, and even she had to use the sigils on the shed. I wouldn't say that was a good day for Doumeki either.

Plus he seems to be warded against "evil things", so Himawari's bad luck might not work the same on him. And Watanuki attracts stuff, so maybe he is in most danger. But to say that only Watanuki is affected, I don't think there is proof for that, especially as we see nothing of Himawari's life. Shouldn't girls her age have more girl friends? Yet we see her hang out with those 2 guys before school, during lunch breaks AND after school. Ok, the plot is centered on the trio (we did get to see Doumeki at home and at his club though), I get that, but still, fact is we don't see any other side of Himawari's life, other people that could be affected by her bad luck.

chococat109 said:
For instance, I think he knows that Himawari is bad luck but he won't acknowledge it because he wants to be around her.

chococat109 said:
For instance, I think he knows that Himawari is bad luck but he won't acknowledge it because he wants to be around her.

chococat109 said:
Did anyone notice that Himawari stopped hanging out with Watanuki & Doumeki after the pinky promise? I wonder if that was intentional.

StabbyPWNS said:
I'm kind of wondering.... is Yuuko the only one in this series that ever changes her clothes??? o_O