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May 5, 2008 10:11 PM
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Clues:
Clock starting
Lucy losing all her horns (which explain the normal head on the silhouette)
Lucy saying, "this is the last time you'll ever see me"
Nana not feeling Lucy's presence (maybe she is was nyu's form)?
May 6, 2008 4:21 AM
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NINJA TURTLE.

I'll come back to this thread when I actually finish the anime. Eventually.
Jun 22, 2008 1:00 PM
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Voted Lucy/Nyu, but almost wanted to say ninja turtle for comedy value. :D
Jun 25, 2008 12:12 AM
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it was lucy/nyuu i wont have it any other way V_V
Jun 30, 2008 5:39 AM
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I voted Lucy but just cause you would see the nunchucks in the silhouette if it WAS a ninja turtle xD



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Jul 5, 2008 4:49 AM
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Wasn't it Lucy in the manga? There's really nobody else it could've been.
Jul 9, 2008 11:54 PM
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I haven't found enough translated manga to get that far in the story, haha.
Jul 14, 2008 10:01 PM
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CHUCK NORRIS was behind the door
Jul 14, 2008 10:33 PM
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ROFLOL i voted for A NINJA TURTLE!... its soo tempting..


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Jul 22, 2008 12:44 PM

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It was Lucy behind the door!~

Well, I've always thought that she came back to Kouta :)



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Jul 22, 2008 1:00 PM

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Even though I think it's Lucy, you can never trust those ninja turtles...
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I kind of wanted to think it was Lucy/Nyuu behind the door too, but it was pretty clear that she let herself die (that last image of her arms up in the air rather than protecting her).A couple other hints were "This is the last time you'll ever see me", and "In 5 years' time most of the children born will be of my kind. When that happens, even you won't be able to live in this world." Now on to the metaphysical stuff.

The music box stopped playing, which was always something important to the two of them. It acted throughout the series as a symbol of their friendship, so when the song stopped playing it made me feel more certain that she was dead. The last death imagery I picked up was that the clock started working again. The clock served as an image of something in the world that she was trying to fix rather than destroy. When the clock's bell rang, it sent out two messages: one was the universal symbolism of the tolling of a bell (we know what that means, given the context).The second thing was the emphasis of a really depressing truth: the clock didn't start working until she was dead, signifying that the world really was better without her kind.

I'd love it if she was alive, but I just can't see that happening. Organizations are after her. If she was back, perhaps promising a sequel, it would never feel right after such a dark climax. I hate to say it, but I don't think, given the artistic choices that the writers made in the rest of the series, that they would have allowed Lucy to live.

EDIT: I thought of something. We're not supposed to know, possibly, because it's there to represent that Lucy became only a silhouette in his memory.
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I think it was Lucy/nyuu behind the door. I have a perfectly reasonable reason too - after she lost her first horn she appeared dead but was alive, so maybe the horns are sorta like lives in a video game and after her second horn came off she got one last chance! (i know it sounds weird but that's the way my brain describes it)


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Aug 4, 2008 2:40 AM
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if you actually paid an attention to the doggy Wanta, it reacted to the person, so it might have been lucy .
Aug 6, 2008 3:11 PM

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It was a Ninja Turtle... Leonardo or Michleangelo ;)


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Aug 6, 2008 4:38 PM

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But since this is quite a realistic and grim anime, wouldn't it be quite against the grim theme they constructed if suddenly Lucy/Nyuu appears before them all alive and well, and they live happily ever after without so much of a sacrifice?

Just from the anime, I don't really think there's an answer to this question, and this lack-of-conclusiveness was probably their intention anyway.
Aug 6, 2008 5:54 PM

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I haven't found enough translated manga to get that far in the story, haha.
There's only six more chapters left to be scanlated. How can you not find "enough"?
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Grmo said:
I kind of wanted to think it was Lucy/Nyuu behind the door too, but it was pretty clear that she let herself die (that last image of her arms up in the air rather than protecting her)....
EDIT: I thought of something. We're not supposed to know, possibly, because it's there to represent that Lucy became only a silhouette in his memory.


The silhouette looked like a woman.

Lucy's hands were indeed up in the air, at least two of them.

Previously the hero had seen his little sister in all girls.

The shadow may have meant that he now saw Lucy in all women.

However, I think the writers simply felt no need to give the audience any #*$% closure on the story! Now I know how all those viewers of "The Sopranos" felt when their series ended without a meaningful closure.

I think there's some artistic films -- Fellini or Truffaut or somebody -- that make a virtue out of this kind of lack-of-a-story, but I don't know the film theory or literary stuff to explain why they think it's good.
Aug 12, 2008 5:23 PM

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God I was so sad when that anime ended. I think I even cried a little.
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Grmo said:
I kind of wanted to think it was Lucy/Nyuu behind the door too, but it was pretty clear that she let herself die (that last image of her arms up in the air rather than protecting her).A couple other hints were "This is the last time you'll ever see me", and "In 5 years' time most of the children born will be of my kind. When that happens, even you won't be able to live in this world." Now on to the metaphysical stuff.

The music box stopped playing, which was always something important to the two of them. It acted throughout the series as a symbol of their friendship, so when the song stopped playing it made me feel more certain that she was dead. The last death imagery I picked up was that the clock started working again. The clock served as an image of something in the world that she was trying to fix rather than destroy. When the clock's bell rang, it sent out two messages: one was the universal symbolism of the tolling of a bell (we know what that means, given the context).The second thing was the emphasis of a really depressing truth: the clock didn't start working until she was dead, signifying that the world really was better without her kind.

I'd love it if she was alive, but I just can't see that happening. Organizations are after her. If she was back, perhaps promising a sequel, it would never feel right after such a dark climax. I hate to say it, but I don't think, given the artistic choices that the writers made in the rest of the series, that they would have allowed Lucy to live.

EDIT: I thought of something. We're not supposed to know, possibly, because it's there to represent that Lucy became only a silhouette in his memory.

You've put a lot of thought into your answer - and frankly, I think you've made a pretty good agrument :) Now I'm beginning to wonder once if it was really Lucy behind the door.. =\

At least the manga ending is definite...



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Grmo said:

The music box stopped playing, which was always something important to the two of them. It acted throughout the series as a symbol of their friendship, so when the song stopped playing it made me feel more certain that she was dead. The last death imagery I picked up was that the clock started working again. The clock served as an image of something in the world that she was trying to fix rather than destroy. When the clock's bell rang, it sent out two messages: one was the universal symbolism of the tolling of a bell (we know what that means, given the context).The second thing was the emphasis of a really depressing truth: the clock didn't start working until she was dead, signifying that the world really was better without her kind.

I'd love it if she was alive, but I just can't see that happening. Organizations are after her. If she was back, perhaps promising a sequel, it would never feel right after such a dark climax. I hate to say it, but I don't think, given the artistic choices that the writers made in the rest of the series, that they would have allowed Lucy to live.

EDIT: I thought of something. We're not supposed to know, possibly, because it's there to represent that Lucy became only a silhouette in his memory.


That's actually exactly what I thought. I thought that the music box had symbolized their friendship, and stopped, meaning the person at the door couldn't have been Lucy. However, at the same time. I might've thought that, since the bowl was out, it was a symbol that she might be returning, in spirit. And since the music box had symbolized their friendship, it stopped because she died, but the clock had lived on in replacement of her spirit.
Either way, the ending is very mind-bozzling, but I like it that way! ;D



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I think it's lucy/nyu it's kinda hard to know!
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Oct 25, 2008 10:18 AM
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luvisuzu said:
Clues:
Clock starting
Lucy losing all her horns (which explain the normal head on the silhouette)
Lucy saying, "this is the last time you'll ever see me"
Nana not feeling Lucy's presence (maybe she is was nyu's form)?


no horns it has to be A NINJA TURTLE!

idk i think they did that to piss ppl off and keep us wondering
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Dec 19, 2008 11:47 AM
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Nyu/Lucy.

Maybe they just need to come up with a ova so we don't have to think about it >.<
Dec 26, 2008 10:17 AM

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Grmo said:
I kind of wanted to think it was Lucy/Nyuu behind the door too, but it was pretty clear that she let herself die (that last image of her arms up in the air rather than protecting her).A couple other hints were "This is the last time you'll ever see me", and "In 5 years' time most of the children born will be of my kind. When that happens, even you won't be able to live in this world." Now on to the metaphysical stuff.

The music box stopped playing, which was always something important to the two of them. It acted throughout the series as a symbol of their friendship, so when the song stopped playing it made me feel more certain that she was dead. The last death imagery I picked up was that the clock started working again. The clock served as an image of something in the world that she was trying to fix rather than destroy. When the clock's bell rang, it sent out two messages: one was the universal symbolism of the tolling of a bell (we know what that means, given the context).The second thing was the emphasis of a really depressing truth: the clock didn't start working until she was dead, signifying that the world really was better without her kind.

I'd love it if she was alive, but I just can't see that happening. Organizations are after her. If she was back, perhaps promising a sequel, it would never feel right after such a dark climax. I hate to say it, but I don't think, given the artistic choices that the writers made in the rest of the series, that they would have allowed Lucy to live.

EDIT: I thought of something. We're not supposed to know, possibly, because it's there to represent that Lucy became only a silhouette in his memory.

You've put a lot of thought into your answer - and frankly, I think you've made a pretty good agrument :) Now I'm beginning to wonder once if it was really Lucy behind the door.. =

At least the manga ending is definite...


YEa but if they had a definite ending we wouldn't have given the series as much thought as it's gotten,and deserved.

Elfen Lied was defintly one of the BEST animes I've ever seen, all aspects of it were phenomenal. And as much as I would love to see who is behind that door, I understand the reasoning that they left it as a cliffhanger.
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Nyu/Lucy.
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I think it was Nyu and only Nyu behind the door. No more Lucy.

Lucy saying, "This is the last time you'll ever see me" and the music box stopping, all could have represented 'her' dying. You will no longer know me as the little girl you were friends with eight years ago. I’ll just be Nyu now. The clock beginning to tick is her being reborn as a single person, Nyu.

Far fetched I suppose, but my opinion.
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Maurice said:
Nyu/Lucy.


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Jan 21, 2009 4:21 PM

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I guess everyone can believe what they want. I still think its Lucy/Nyuu. I mean come on you just never know, maybe the music box stopped and the clock which Nyuu spent so much time fixing started because it was siginifying a new time and a new relationship between Kohta and Lucy/Nyuu.

By the music box stopping and the clock starting it may just be trying to signify a new time for everyone in the story.

Meh, anyways I am off to read the manga =D.
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Hmmm... I don't think that Lucy was behind the d00r even I hope so. When she loses the horn, she can't use any vectors anymore? No way to survive after those shots T.T
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its not Lucy,,its only nyuu that came back,,it was nyu who was in the door..the music box that stopped symbolizes Lucy(vanished),,and the fixed clock symbolizes nyu(still alive)..basically that explains the symbolical thing in the ending..

and also,,if it is lucy,,nana will feel her presence but nana felt nothing..it was nyu nyu nyu nyu nyu
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Had to be the Milkman...


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It was Leonidas. No doubt about it.
Oct 30, 2009 3:28 PM

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The Milkman or someone similar. unfortunately, this is intended to be a opened ending, so one put his own ending.
Oct 31, 2009 4:37 AM

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It's Nyu. For symbolical reasons stated earlier. As well as others.

That said, I read the whole manga and the ending there was a bazillion times better than this.
Nov 4, 2009 1:01 PM

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YOU KNOW IT WAS A NINJA TURTLE!
Mar 4, 2010 6:43 AM

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no !! it was kira and he will kill them all ..


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Obviously, if we interlace facts from the manga and anime, it should be nyu at the door. Since she lost both horns, she should be in a coma like state. Yet in the manga, it shows that she can still live without the horn, though as a single personality (nyu) without vectors. Therefore, the person behind the door was...just Nyu

And as people mentioned before, the symbolism with the music box ending signifies that Kouta and Lucy's relationship ends, since it was an item they both cherished. Also the clock that nyu was so very intrgued by started working again, signifying the beginning of kouta and nyu. So in the end, it is only nyu's personilty that stays.

Though the ninja turtle theory is more than plausible XD

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A last goodbye.
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Grmo said:
I kind of wanted to think it was Lucy/Nyuu behind the door too, but it was pretty clear that she let herself die (that last image of her arms up in the air rather than protecting her).A couple other hints were "This is the last time you'll ever see me", and "In 5 years' time most of the children born will be of my kind. When that happens, even you won't be able to live in this world." Now on to the metaphysical stuff.

The music box stopped playing, which was always something important to the two of them. It acted throughout the series as a symbol of their friendship, so when the song stopped playing it made me feel more certain that she was dead. The last death imagery I picked up was that the clock started working again. The clock served as an image of something in the world that she was trying to fix rather than destroy. When the clock's bell rang, it sent out two messages: one was the universal symbolism of the tolling of a bell (we know what that means, given the context).The second thing was the emphasis of a really depressing truth: the clock didn't start working until she was dead, signifying that the world really was better without her kind.

I'd love it if she was alive, but I just can't see that happening. Organizations are after her. If she was back, perhaps promising a sequel, it would never feel right after such a dark climax. I hate to say it, but I don't think, given the artistic choices that the writers made in the rest of the series, that they would have allowed Lucy to live.

EDIT: I thought of something. We're not supposed to know, possibly, because it's there to represent that Lucy became only a silhouette in his memory.


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guys,read the symbolism :)

music box stopped-lucy died
clock started-nyu's alive :)

when she lost both of her horns Lucy transformed into a human

so yeah,nyu was behind that door :)
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Jun 30, 2010 11:56 PM

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It's obviously Lucy/Nyu.

There's no way she could've died,

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when she lost both of her horns Lucy transformed into a human


Read the manga, gives the full length story. I suggest you dont click on the tab if you dont want to know about the horns

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It's LUCY its GOTTA GOTTA GOTTA. I wont have it ANY OTHER WAY!
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