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Mar 4, 2011 8:58 PM
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1.Mahou Shoujos fight Majos.
2.Mahou Shoujo kills Majo.
3.Majo drops Grief Seed.
4.Mahou Shoujo uses Grief Seed to restore Soul Gem.
5.Mahou Shoujo uses Grief Seed more until Witch is revived.
6.Repeat steps 1-5. Infinite Soul Power!
Mar 4, 2011 9:43 PM
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Not quite a "Plot Hole", I'm thinking someone will be able to break that chain, or maybe Madoka will destroy all
Mar 4, 2011 9:47 PM
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Hmm, I think the Grief Seed restores less power than whatever you spent to kill Witches. Thermodynamics and what-have-you. Plus the Kyubeians wouldn't be able to harvest the energy to save the universe if that was the case =/
Mar 5, 2011 10:45 AM
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blue001 said:

5.Mahou Shoujo uses Grief Seed more until Witch is revived.
It seems to me, it should be:
5. Mahou Shoujo uses Grief Seed more until it becomes total black and can't be used anymore, so QB utilize it.
Where is info about Whitches revival? ^^
Mar 5, 2011 2:41 PM
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blue001 said:
1.Mahou Shoujos fight Majos.
2.Mahou Shoujo kills Majo.
3.Majo drops Grief Seed.
4.Mahou Shoujo uses Grief Seed to restore Soul Gem.
5.Mahou Shoujo uses Grief Seed more until Witch is revived.
6.Repeat steps 1-5. Infinite Soul Power!

I highly doubt Mami and Kyouko will agree with that :P
Mar 5, 2011 6:26 PM
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GreenWater said:
Where is info about Whitches revival? ^^


QB mentioned that fact when he tried to explain what to do with grief seeds to sayaka, however I find it rather hard to believe that QB would leave such mature fruit unattended.
Mar 11, 2011 2:19 PM
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It wont be infinite because if the witch is revived they will have to fight it and will corrupt their soul gem again. It will be just a transfer of energy. But if the law of entropy is applied energy will be lost during transfer.
Mar 11, 2011 2:34 PM
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You say it's a plothole. I've got an informant who told me the following:

/(◕ ‿‿ ◕)\ All working as intended. Do you want to make a contract by any chance?
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Mar 12, 2011 9:40 AM
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Mar 12, 2011 5:23 PM

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5. Kyuubey takes darkened grief seed. End of the cycle.
Mar 12, 2011 5:28 PM

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INKYUBEYTAH said:

Mar 12, 2011 9:14 PM
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How can you say plothole when the show isn't over yet.
Mar 12, 2011 10:49 PM

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SuperSaiyen said:
Agreed .
Mar 13, 2011 12:16 AM
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How is this a plot hole? I guess it's more like:
Wordsmith said:
You say it's a plothole. I've got an informant who told me the following:

/(◕ ‿‿ ◕) All working as intended. Do you want to make a contract by any chance?

There you go. Someone already said that so no need to repeat.
Mar 13, 2011 6:18 AM

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more energy is used that restored >> only a matter of time till ya die.
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Mar 19, 2011 4:57 AM

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darkzero999 said:
It wont be infinite because if the witch is revived they will have to fight it and will corrupt their soul gem again. It will be just a transfer of energy. But if the law of entropy is applied energy will be lost during transfer.


And what about "entropy don't apply to magic"? The reason Incubators bothers to do whole thing is that it's infinite amount of energy restricted only by output.

And there's no evidence that more energy is used to destroy witch then is gained from Grief Seed. The problem are familiar of witch that don't drop Grief Seed and still require magic(energy) to defeat or fights between Mahou Shoujo. Even with Sayaka crazy and inefficient fighting it took a lot time to actually lose all magic and turn into witch.

So I guess that powerful mahou shoujo like Homura (or Kyoko) could live infinity if they decide to not engage in useless or risky fights and keep out of fighting Walpurgisnacht(At least until they strong enough). The problem is that since source is infinite but have limited output of energy, turning Mahou Shoujo into Witches is the most efficient method, so Kyuubey actually prefer it then gaining it slowly by remains of Grief Seeds(since it's mostly used in restoration). Especially since material (young girls :D) is plentiful and easy to replace.
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Mar 24, 2011 11:39 PM

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Plot holes are unavoidable with the addition of time travel.



Mar 25, 2011 6:42 AM

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I don't know about this witch revival thing, seeing as I don't remember anything about witches reviving. The grief seed just gets eaten by Kyuubey. Besides that, surely there isn't an infinite amount of witches out there. Because of that, there is not an infinite supply of grief seeds, so eventually some mahou shoujos would have to become witches.
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Familiar>witch?
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Familiar>witch?
It is said that once a familiar attacks enough humans they turn into a full-fledged witch which is one of the reason the system can function regardless of the fact Magical Girls kill several witches before they themselves become a witch.

So, Magical girls turn into witches which create familiars that can eventually also turn into witches. It is unknown, since they never showed one transforming, if the familiar retains the image of it's parent or if it develops into an unique witch.

Some theorize that the Incubators basically reuse the Grief Seeds over and over (reviving the same witch essentially) which may also be true as the system needs the illusion of an enemy to keep the façade going.

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