| My experience with Steins Gate has been pretty weird, there are watch orders. One involves watching Steins gate episodes from 1-24, the other one involves watching episodes 1-22, then OVA that leads to Steins Gate 0 and should come back, and watch the other two episodes namely 23 and 24. I watched the entire series another way around. I must say one thing to Steins Gate fans. There is one plot twist in Steins Gate 0 that happens in episode 21 that is so good and it completely overshadows every plot twist in OG Steins Gate. That plot twist is the single thing that the Steins Gate franchise in my opinion has achieved to the term that I would call "Peak Fiction" in general. Before any OG fans of Steins Gate come and disagree with my post, I do see there are flaws with Steins Gate 0 but the high points of that series are so good. Overall, Steins Gate was an amazing journey and I will never forget it. Episode 21 of Steins Gate 0 is the single best thing that I've experienced from this Franchise |
Sanjay63773 said: there are watch orders. There is not. You are talking about a "chronological order" , which can be done with absolutely every piece of fiction ever created , and just ruin the intentions of the Author. (In the case of Steins;Gate , it isn't even chronological to begin with.) Sanjay63773 said: There is one plot twist in Steins Gate 0 that happens in episode 21 that is so good and it completely overshadows every plot twist in OG Steins Gate. Which plot twist ? There is the incredible revival scene , which is without any doubt the best sequence of 0 , but that's all... ? |
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Alexioos95 said: Sanjay63773 said: there are watch orders. There is not. You are talking about a "chronological order" , which can be done with absolutely every piece of fiction ever created , and just ruin the intentions of the Author. (In the case of Steins;Gate , it isn't even chronological to begin with.) Sanjay63773 said: There is one plot twist in Steins Gate 0 that happens in episode 21 that is so good and it completely overshadows every plot twist in OG Steins Gate. Which plot twist ? There is the incredible revival scene , which is without any doubt the best sequence of 0 , but that's all... ? Agreed and agreed. Completely agree. |
| I did enjoy an episode of Steins;Gate 0, but that episode was not the 21st. By the way, you didn't tell us what order you watched the show in. |
| その目だれの目？ |
truth999 said: Alexioos95 said: There is not. You are talking about a "chronological order" , which can be done with absolutely every piece of fiction ever created , and just ruin the intentions of the Author. (In the case of Steins;Gate , it isn't even chronological to begin with.) Which plot twist ? There is the incredible revival scene , which is without any doubt the best sequence of 0 , but that's all... ? you asked the author if he think it's bad to watch it like that ? I think with how perfectly it ties everything together and works together it's was for sure meant as a way to watch it and I definitely enjoyed it more that way so above all us if you like it more that way then it's the better way for you Ehm... Steins;Gate was released in 2009, 0 was released in 2015. The latter wouldn't even exist if C;C wouldn't have flopped at its initial sales in 2014. What makes you think then it "was sure meant to watch that way"? Also SciADV was always meant to be consumed in release order. That is the way how the overarching story unfolds. Mages released those VNs in this specific order for a reason |
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truth999 said: you asked the author if he think it's bad to watch it like that ? No , but it's an obvious answer. Why would they create and release their works like that ? Especially since Steins;Gate is only Part 2 of a way larger story... truth999 said: I think with how perfectly it ties everything together and works together it's was for sure meant as a way to watch it It ties perfectly because 0 is a Prequel. It's a complement to the original story ; a bonus material , nothing more. And did you understood that the entirety of 0 doesn't happens between Episode 22 & 23 of the original , but before Episode 01 of the original... ? So no , it doesn't work at all. truth999 said: I definitely enjoyed it more that way so above all us if you like it more that way then it's the better way for you You can't tell if you enjoyed more that way than you would've if you had followed the right order. If you liked it , then good for you , but you did missed something here. |
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truth999 said: SciADV_Maniac said: im talking about they wouldnt make ovas and everything to tie the two together like that if it wasnt a way to watch it im not saying its the only way but as far as the anime gos it obvious it was made as a way to watch Ehm... Steins;Gate was released in 2009, 0 was released in 2015. The latter wouldn't even exist if C;C wouldn't have flopped at its initial sales in 2014. What makes you think then it "was sure meant to watch that way"? Also SciADV was always meant to be consumed in release order. That is the way how the overarching story unfolds. Mages released those VNs in this specific order for a reason The Missing Link OVA was made to be a promotional material for the VN, back in 2015. That's it, nothing more, nothing less. And the OVA, btw, contradicts the anime :D the dates doesn't match. It was never meant to be watched this way. Actually the 0 anime is meant to be watched after you finished 0 VN, since it's actually a sequel to it, not a conventional adaptation. |
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truth999 said: i watched both ways This is the preferred argument of the defenders of this "chronological order" , but it's bullshit. You can experience a story in only 1 order for the first time , and it's this one that impact everything. That's why such chronological/alternative orders are always choosen for a re-watch , not before. truth999 said: thats like saying you need to watch chaos head first Yeah , that's what viewers should do. Unfortunately , the adaptations of the SciAdv outside Steins;Gate aren't really well received by anyone... truth999 said: no steins gate episode 22 and prior events did happen before steins gate 0 or 0 couldnt exist And here is the proof that your order is shit. Steins;Gate 0 happens wayyy before Episode 01 , since we get to see the realization of the crypted message that the Okabe from the original received. The Okabe we follow in 0 isn't the one we followed in the original series... Even if he did experience relatively similar events , you are trying to replace his story with a "copy" of it. And note that Animes are never made to target new peoples , they are done for those who are already fans of the source material , and if , at the same time , they get new fans , then it's all good for them. |
Alexioos95Mar 9, 2023 9:56 AM
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Avnesh_Jain___ said: I have watched stien gates in so called chronological order and enjoyed it . Again , the problem isn't that you can't enjoy it , it's that you are not doing it the way you are supposed to , and you most probably toned down your potential enjoyment. Avnesh_Jain___ said: There are weirdos who aren't able to digest fact that PPL have enjoyed so called chronological order. I see that you have Naruto : Shippuuden in your favorites. In this case , if someone watched Naruto in this order : Flashbacks of Kaguya (Around Shippuuden 450) > flashbacks of Minato & Kushina (Around Shippuuden 250) > Naruto as a kid (Whole Naruto) > Naruto as a teen (Near whole Shippuuden). And then he said that he enjoyed it as hell , and that it's now his favorites series , and thus goes around telling everyone to watch it in his order... Wouldn't you think he is the weirdo... ? Because that's pretty much how we see you and all of those talking about chronological order here... For Steins;Gate it's even worse , since the order isn't even chronological to begin with , and confuse peoples. (99% of those who watched it with this order didn't even understood that Steins;Gate 0 happens before Episode 01 of the original...) |
Alexioos95Mar 10, 2023 2:40 AM
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RopeBuny said: Congrants, you ruined the intentions of the author. Small tips : If you want someone to believe your troll/bait , you have to do something more than simply write a single sentence... Articulate your whole account around it , create thousand of threads , imagine theories or fake chapters/episodes , do something to make your whole troll alive. Kinda like those 2 : https://myanimelist.net/profile/EREN1990 https://myanimelist.net/profile/DBZ_is_PEAK |
"Genius lives only one storey above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
RopeBuny said: SciADV_Maniac said: Ehm... Steins;Gate was released in 2009, 0 was released in 2015. The latter wouldn't even exist if C;C wouldn't have flopped at its initial sales in 2014. What makes you think then it "was sure meant to watch that way"? Also SciADV was always meant to be consumed in release order. That is the way how the overarching story unfolds. Mages released those VNs in this specific order for a reason It wasn’t meant to be watched like that. You’re out of your mind. Are you sure wanted to reply to me? |
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RopeBuny said: Sorry. that messenge was meant for the guy that posted the thread. Woah , with how you quoted multiples peoples , while using the same words as us , i was so sure you were trolling here... |
"Genius lives only one storey above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
DucktorQuack said: No one would give a shit about "chronological" order if we were only talking about a re-watch, that much should be obvious. I don’t understand what the problem is with watching in “chronological order,” as long as it’s a rewatch. My last viewing of Steins;Gate followed this order and to me it made 0 more enjoyable. I’ll probably watch the series in this order moving forward. For me, the ending of S;G is too happy and fun to be followed right after by 0 (though I know not everyone watches 0 if they plan on watching S;G so it doesn’t apply in that case). 0 is such a gloomy and depressing show in the start that it’s hard to get into when S;G’s ending is so lively. Edit: also I know it’s not actually chronological since it’s not the same Okabe, it’s just easier to reference the watch order as such |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
DucktorQuack said: I don’t understand what the problem is with watching in “chronological order,” as long as it’s a rewatch. There is none. The problem here , is that we are not talking about a re-watch... |
"Genius lives only one storey above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
Avnesh_Jain___ said: Sanjay63773 said: My experience with Steins Gate has been pretty weird, there are watch orders. One involves watching Steins gate episodes from 1-24, the other one involves watching episodes 1-22, then OVA that leads to Steins Gate 0 and should come back, and watch the other two episodes namely 23 and 24. I watched the entire series another way around. I must say one thing to Steins Gate fans. There is one plot twist in Steins Gate 0 that happens in episode 21 that is so good and it completely overshadows every plot twist in OG Steins Gate. That plot twist is the single thing that the Steins Gate franchise in my opinion has achieved to the term that I would call "Peak Fiction" in general. Before any OG fans of Steins Gate come and disagree with my post, I do see there are flaws with Steins Gate 0 but the high points of that series are so good. Overall, Steins Gate was an amazing journey and I will never forget it. Episode 21 of Steins Gate 0 is the single best thing that I've experienced from this Franchise I have watched stien gates in so called chronological order and enjoyed it . There are weirdos who aren't able to digest fact that PPL have enjoyed so called chronological order. Rest in peace for them It's not the fact that we aren't able to digest the fact that people enjoyed it it's the fact that this chronological order is a dumb beginning watch order that is not even chronological in the first place. I hate seeing this stupid watch order because I can debunk it really easily but people defend it and make/confuse new watchers with this crap. Also here is you debunk you are telling people to chop up a series to watch a time travel series in a so called chronological order. That makes a lot of sense. |
peen_apple said: Watch divide by zero ova before 23,24. Then watch zero (as a second season) Wow, this somehow makes even less sense than the """chronological order""" |
Rest in Piece, Miura. |
| Other than the sheer stupidity of the "chronological" order, it's made even worse by the fact it doesn't skip "S;G 0" ep 23, which is spoiler heavy af. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| It baffles me how ppl care so much in what order ppl watch this anime smh. Let them watch however they want to bruh. It’s literally stupid to even get into such heated debates for something that absolutely doesn’t affect them in any way. |
 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
on xZabuzax said: MeVike said: It baffles me how ppl care so much in what order ppl watch this anime smh. Let them watch however they want to bruh. It’s literally stupid to even get into such heated debates for something that absolutely doesn’t affect them in any way. That's not necessarily true, I'm a hardcore Steins;Gate fan but I'm also one of the most hardcore Steins;Gate 0 hater around here and believe it or not, that dumb order would have ruined it for me completely because I would be stopping the climax of Steins;Gate to literally shoehorn a shitty anime in the middle of it and thus, ruining the pacing of Steins;Gate and degrading my overall enjoyment out of it. By the time I finish Steins;Gate 0 I would have been pissed and uninterested to watch the last 2 episodes of Steins;Gate, this same shit happened to a couple of my friends and guess what, that dumb fan made order also ruined it for them and this alone is already a reason to avoid the "Chronological Order" bullshit which is not even chronological in the first place. I haven't heard the "Release Order" ruining it for anyone but I have definitely heard the "Chronological Order" ruining it for a couple of people and it gets ruined for a good reason, you are literally shoehorning another anime in the middle of Steins;Gate which is also made by another freaking director and even the characters changed since the girls have bigger boobs for whatever reason. Bro, I get what you’re saying. I’m not here to argue what’s the best choice. I’m here to tell ppl to not act stupid and end up insulting each other, which would be a waste of time for everybody, over how one watched it. If they didn’t watch it the correct order, how does that affect you or me? It doesn’t. That’s the point. I’m not saying you shouldn’t discuss what’s the correct order or not, but if you read above, I rarely saw any discussion above, only heated ppl insulting each other. |
𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
xZabuzax said: MeVike said: Bro, I get what you’re saying. I’m not here to argue what’s the best choice. I’m here to tell ppl to not act stupid and end up insulting each other, which would be a waste of time for everybody, over how one watched it. If they didn’t watch it the correct order, how does that affect you or me? It doesn’t. That’s the point. I’m not saying you shouldn’t discuss what’s the correct order or not, but if you read above, I rarely saw any discussion above, only heated ppl insulting each other. Don't get me wrong, someone watching Steins;Gate in the "Chronological Order" BS won't affect me now but it would definitely have affected me if I did watch it that way and thus, I'm simply trying to fight against it but yeah, insulting each other is not the best way to do it so I agree with you there. Honestly, If ppl feel that way about release order and chronological order, they should just watch original steins gate and nothing else. No ovas no SG0 and no movie. Just 24 episodes and move on. No drama no nothing. |
𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
| I watched it chronological my first time just some months ago and it was an excellent experience. No regrets. Far more satisfying than if I didn't. |
| I recommend it for dedicated completionists, I suppose. I still agree 0 wasn't as good, but dogshit? Not even close. |
xZabuzax said: I think it's dogshit.Sandyperson said: I recommend it for dedicated completionists, I suppose. I still agree 0 wasn't as good, but dogshit? Not even close. To be fair, is Steins;Gate 0 dogshit? no, it isn't, that's just me being edgy and expecting too much out of Steins;Gate 0, there are obviously far, far worse animes out there. |
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xZabuzax said: MeVike said: Honestly, If ppl feel that way about release order and chronological order, they should just watch original steins gate and nothing else. No ovas no SG0 and no movie. Just 24 episodes and move on. No drama no nothing. I don't entirely agree with this though, Steins;Gate 0, the movie, ovas, etc... are separate products and thus, they should be watched as separate products, nothing wrong in watching some extras, prequels, midquels, sequels, whatever... those things exists to please the fans and I'm cool with it. The thing I don't agree with is ruining the pacing of an anime to shoehorn another anime in the middle of it and it's even worse in Steins;Gate since that fan-made order is not even chronological. Steins;Gate 0 is a separate product and it should be treated as such, it was never intended to be watched before Steins;Gate, that dumb order was simply created by a fan who apparently had no idea what he was doing and suddenly, that order became popular among a minority of people. See that’s the thing. You’re telling them to watch extra things, but get annoyed when they don’t watch them how you want them to do it. You can’t have everything. That’s why I don’t understand why you even do it. As I said, if they watch it however they want, what’s it to us? Nothing. If they want to watch it the wrong way, let them. Why should you give a shit about the way one consumes anime, or everything for that matter? If you don’t understand that, you’ll be stuck here arguing with these ppl for a long time. I used to be like that too, but now idrc anymore. You want to watch steins gate backwards? Do it bro. You want to watch only the movie? Do it bro? You want to watch 0 before the og anime? Do it bro. It is what it is. Gotta go now, so have a great day and try not to give a shit what others think or want to do. |
𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
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