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Mar 6, 2014 4:08 AM
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Let's go. Who do you think will win and why?
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Mar 6, 2014 6:20 PM
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Dio is far too arrogant to win a fight against Goku even if he were on equal terms.
Furthermore, I'd be surprised if he could even land a bruise on him with five seconds of The World.

Now if you made it Giorno vs Goku it would be a foregone conclusion in Gold Experience Requiem's favor.
Mar 7, 2014 1:07 AM
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For one he can stop time for 9 seconds and he only needs to suck his blood and it's over.
Dio's arrogance isn't anything that's ever been a weakness, Jotaro only won because of several asspulls.
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Mar 7, 2014 6:47 AM
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lol, I instinctively used Jotaro's measure of time with The World there, but I guess it was longer.
Regardless, Goku has been seen to be capable of destroying planets, if he really had to he could just make the world uninhabitable for all sentient life and Dio would lose by default.
Mar 7, 2014 12:10 PM
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Goku wins easy

Even if he stops the time for 9 seconds, Goku's skin is as resistant as a planet.
Mar 7, 2014 4:10 PM
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If his skin is as resistant as a planet then how come he can take needle injections?
Also making the planet uninhabitable would include himself so he loses.
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Mar 7, 2014 4:20 PM
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True, but Goku can use instant transmission to warp between planets so I don't think it would be much of an issue.
Mar 7, 2014 4:22 PM
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Only that it would be a pussy move and out of character for Goku to win a fight like that, he wouldn't kill innocents.
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Mar 7, 2014 4:34 PM
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I'm one of the biggest JoJo fanboys in existence, but even I know that Dio can't beat Goku. Sure, he's got the speed advantage and time stop, but he can't dent him. His biggest chance would be using his flesh-buds, and I don't know if it will work in Goku, because iirc the fleshbud has to pierce the skin, and Goku's too tough for it. The moment The World's time stop ends, it's all over for Dio.
Mar 7, 2014 5:06 PM

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I don't see any possibility of Dio winning the fight unless he somehow manages to pierce The World with the arrow and implement his requiem which we have no knowledge of.

Dio wins the bias and character vote by far though.
Mar 7, 2014 5:09 PM

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Dio can easily suck his blood and turn him into a zombie and really that's all it takes.
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Mar 7, 2014 5:40 PM

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GuusWayne said:
Dio can easily suck his blood and turn him into a zombie and really that's all it takes.


But that requires him to somehow make contact with Goku's blood, which won't happen because he's too tough.
Mar 8, 2014 12:27 AM

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fourthmovement said:
GuusWayne said:
Dio can easily suck his blood and turn him into a zombie and really that's all it takes.


But that requires him to somehow make contact with Goku's blood, which won't happen because he's too tough.
That's not true, again he takes needle injections meaning his skin ain't any harder than a normal humans. Dio can easily bypass his skin to suck his blood which he can do smoothly.
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GuusWayne said:
fourthmovement said:
GuusWayne said:
Dio can easily suck his blood and turn him into a zombie and really that's all it takes.


But that requires him to somehow make contact with Goku's blood, which won't happen because he's too tough.
That's not true, again he takes needle injections meaning his skin ain't any harder than a normal humans. Dio can easily bypass his skin to suck his blood which he can do smoothly.


Uh, wall of text incoming...

Say, Piccolo destroyed the moon casually in DBZ. Raditz can take his and Goku's attacks with little to no problems. Vegeta and Baldguywhatshisname are stronger. Freeza destroyed two planets, and is implied and shown in non-canon materials that he did so in his weakest form.
Goku can take hits from stronger opponents at EoS.
How the hell is his skin not harder than normal humans?! The needles are a gag, dude. Not meant to be taken seriously. If Goku's durability wasn't above human level, he would get fucked beyond existence by all of his enemies. In short, he would be one-shotted.
And guess what.
It never happens, or is it implied to.
In fact, even in the beginning of Dragon Ball, Goku took a bullet, and only said it hurt. He's a damn superhuman.
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fourthmovement said:
GuusWayne said:
fourthmovement said:
GuusWayne said:
Dio can easily suck his blood and turn him into a zombie and really that's all it takes.


But that requires him to somehow make contact with Goku's blood, which won't happen because he's too tough.
That's not true, again he takes needle injections meaning his skin ain't any harder than a normal humans. Dio can easily bypass his skin to suck his blood which he can do smoothly.

Uh, wall of text incoming...

Say, Piccolo destroyed the moon casually in DBZ. Raditz can take his and Goku's attacks with little to no problems. Vegeta and Baldguywhatshisname are stronger. Freeza destroyed two planets, and is implied and shown in non-canon materials that he did so in his weakest form.
Goku can take hits from stronger opponents at EoS.
How the hell is his skin not harder than normal humans?! The needles are a gag, dude. Not meant to be taken seriously. If Goku's durability wasn't above human level, he would get fucked beyond existence by all of his enemies. In short, he would be one-shotted.
And guess what.
It never happens, or is it implied to.
In fact, even in the beginning of Dragon Ball, Goku took a bullet, and only said it hurt. He's a damn superhuman.
Call it inconsistency but it doesn't change the fact that Dio can suck his blood if a needle injection can get through his skin to his blood vessels, he also get injured by rocks.
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Mar 8, 2014 2:36 PM

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GuusWayne said:
fourthmovement said:
GuusWayne said:
fourthmovement said:
GuusWayne said:
Dio can easily suck his blood and turn him into a zombie and really that's all it takes.


But that requires him to somehow make contact with Goku's blood, which won't happen because he's too tough.
That's not true, again he takes needle injections meaning his skin ain't any harder than a normal humans. Dio can easily bypass his skin to suck his blood which he can do smoothly.

Uh, wall of text incoming...

Say, Piccolo destroyed the moon casually in DBZ. Raditz can take his and Goku's attacks with little to no problems. Vegeta and Baldguywhatshisname are stronger. Freeza destroyed two planets, and is implied and shown in non-canon materials that he did so in his weakest form.
Goku can take hits from stronger opponents at EoS.
How the hell is his skin not harder than normal humans?! The needles are a gag, dude. Not meant to be taken seriously. If Goku's durability wasn't above human level, he would get fucked beyond existence by all of his enemies. In short, he would be one-shotted.
And guess what.
It never happens, or is it implied to.
In fact, even in the beginning of Dragon Ball, Goku took a bullet, and only said it hurt. He's a damn superhuman.
Call it inconsistency but it doesn't change the fact that Dio can suck his blood if a needle injection can get through his skin to his blood vessels, he also get injured by rocks.


The rocks, who were also thrown in a comedy scene. Do you seriously believe that SSJ Goku can be damaged by stones, while taking planet busters and stronger attacks on regular basis?
I think my explanation was not enough. Say, character A can destroy galaxies at his strongest. Character A is in love with B, and B is a tsundere. Character B punches character A because he made a somewhat perverted joke. Character A gets hurt. Why? Because it's comedy. Character A is damaged by someone infinitely weaker for comedy's sake. No one takes gag feats seriously because they are jokes.
Dio needs actuall small-star busting fingers if he wants to go through Goku, and he doesn't have them.
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DBZ characters are known to be glass tanks.
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Mar 17, 2014 4:27 PM

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GuusWayne said:
DBZ characters are known to be glass tanks.

> Frieza destroys Namek and takes the explosion, while badly hurt. He still survives.
Nice try, but nope. They aren't.
Mar 24, 2014 1:47 PM

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In the manga there was no indication of him being left on the planet, it felt more he was blown into space and FPSSJ Goku died from a planet explosion who should be way stronger than the Goku who fought Frieza and in Buu Saga he hurt his knee from a rock so yes they're glass tanks.
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GuusWayne said:
In the manga there was no indication of him being left on the planet, it felt more he was blown into space and FPSSJ Goku died from a planet explosion who should be way stronger than the Goku who fought Frieza and in Buu Saga he hurt his knee from a rock so yes they're glass tanks.


> Nitpicks a few scenes, all of them comedy, and uses them as serious evidence.
> Weaker characters than Goku took on planetbusters.
> Powerlevel scales linearly, so if you get stronger in DBZ all of your stats increase.
> Insists on a fucking rock being >>>>>>>> a planet going boom.

I'm done with this. Really. Get some actual evidence not based on gag feats and then we can debate.
Dio is faster, sure, but that won't help him if he can't scratch Goku, or escape the area of effect of his attacks. And guess what, weaker characters can do this.

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/8826/dragonball68563.jpg

And this

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120607182515/dragonball/es/images/3/3d/Resplandor_final_2.png

Dio can't outrun such a big explosion, even if he chains Za Warudo hundreds of times.
So, he gets obliterated into nothing.
Apr 12, 2014 1:35 AM

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No.
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Dio over heaven the world. Goku doesn't have a chance
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Burak_Arda_Aksoy said:
Dio over heaven the world. Goku doesn't have a chance


LOL No. Goku fought a time-stopper like Hit and obliterated him, he literally broke his time stopped world unlike Jotaro who merely moves in it. GOKU BROKE the TIME BARRIER THAT HIT creates.

What the fuck does DIO over Heaven do against that? HE can't even hit Goku because Goku is leagues above him in speed using SSB, he's also too strong. One single hit and Dio's head goes flying out of the solar system.

Hit is a 1000 years old trained Assassin who uses time-stop, time-leap (which is a lot better than time-stop in concept), pocket dimensions and assassination techniques. Goku literally curbstomped and blitzed him.
Note that Hit is the strongest of his Universe.

So yes. DIO Over Heaven gets overstomped it's not funny, his reality warping punches will not land and Goku will be immune to his time-stop.

I suggest you watch this before you randomly throw out replies bud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAbz-RpunvU

This effectively concludes the fight, no version of DIO will ever beat Goku. Simple as that.
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xDantey said:
Burak_Arda_Aksoy said:
Dio over heaven the world. Goku doesn't have a chance


LOL No. Goku fought a time-stopper like Hit and obliterated him, he literally broke his time stopped world unlike Jotaro who merely moves in it. GOKU BROKE the TIME BARRIER THAT HIT creates.

What the fuck does DIO over Heaven do against that? HE can't even hit Goku because Goku is leagues above him in speed using SSB, he's also too strong. One single hit and Dio's head goes flying out of the solar system.

Hit is a 1000 years old trained Assassin who uses time-stop, time-leap (which is a lot better than time-stop in concept), pocket dimensions and assassination techniques. Goku literally curbstomped and blitzed him.
Note that Hit is the strongest of his Universe.

So yes. DIO Over Heaven gets overstomped it's not funny, his reality warping punches will not land and Goku will be immune to his time-stop.

I suggest you watch this before you randomly throw out replies bud:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAbz-RpunvU

This effectively concludes the fight, no version of DIO will ever beat Goku. Simple as that.


İf you think this fight will be classic DBX
style of course he can win bud. Because of dragon ball only about throwing punches İ can understand your ignorence. But we are talking a serious fight in here. There are so many facts to dio can beat goku.

1- Goku loves fighting: Goku never be serious in the beginning of the fight. He will not start with SSGSS. He will just try to test his oppoent. On the other hand dio's always serious. One punch and game over.

2- Dio's arrogence and respect : Dio is arrogent but he arrogent to only humans.
When jojo beats him second time , he started to respect him. And We are talking about an alien who can blow the earth. Dio iş going to fight him with carefully and cleverly.

3- Time stop : You right. Goku break the Hit's time stop. But the reason of this Hit stop the time with his ki power and when Goku did kaikon x20 he suprassed Hit's ki.
But stand power isnt same with Ki. So it isnt certain to goku can break dio's world.

4- Resurraction : Why the hard work. Dio doesn't need to fight with Goku. He can just bring back his foes to life. Freeza, Cell , Broly , Zamazu. He can control his friends. Vegeta , Gohan , Piccolo.

5- Erasing reality : Even act 4 didnt work. (infinite energy) How do you think kamehameha , Spirit bomb going to work.

Stand fights mean strategy and mind fights. But in db usually iş fighting. This why goku cant beat the heaven dio (Sorry for the bad english)
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Goku would easily win cuz goku's skin can survive bullets .Goku can also destroy the planet and use instant teleportation to escape. DIO cant even make a scratch on Goku. Therefore Goku would easily win.
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