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Jul 12, 2010 2:04 PM
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Hi guys, how are u going?
Well, here we are: MAL is actually having problems with sending mass messages (and even pm) as you all had already notice so i dont know when i'll be able sending a mass message to you all, but in the time being i start opening this topic.
Today is July 12, it's not even the middle of the month, i'd say we'll let this topic "opened" for a couple of weeks or a bit more, until end of july.
For anyone that requested a banner to be made by us [doesn't matter in which topic] read carefully: this topic is made cuz i need to talk to you guys.

i'd like make you all notice in particoular the RULE N. 2


Lately staff noticed that many [i'm not saying all, i'm just saying many] of the ppl that usually request a banner to be made do not even have the blog's entry (the famous claims page) nor even post them into their profiles and such.
So:
- yeah, i do understand, it can request time (maybe u are busy and such) doing the page and keeping that updated.
-> but there are ppl that requested, and already received, a banner (or more) and after more than one month still do not have even a claims place/page where to post them.
The point is: our staff do use their own time, making your banners, they do their best [sometimes with pics that are also very hard to work with], and some of the receiver do not even use them.
It's not like our banner makers do have fun, using their time and then seeing that they are kind of "wasted" b'cuz of not used either.
It's kind of sad, you know?>.< but mostly it's enough unfair towards our hard working staff. And i totally dislike unfair things.

I do know that there are also many ppl that do care a lot about the banners, do thank everytime they receive them, and have wonderful claims pages always updated.

So, i'm here to ask what do u guys think of this.
I'm here to ask you an opinion, or idea about what to do of this.
Until now i do received 2 possible suggestions:
- adding an extra row into the claim format as "blog's entry" with the direct link of the page where u'll post them, so anyone that has it wont have problem to show it, and for all the others will finally start having one or will evoid claiming and wasting banner makers' time.
this extra row into the claim format, if not filled, will let the claimer a few days of time (even one week if necessary) to be completed, if it'll still be incompleted then the claim will be counted right if it had missing a proof or a mal page = with the consequence of a reject.
however, this extra row may cause troubles even to ppl that actually do care about banners and always show it, but may forget/skip the row. cuz the row would be added to any claim format of any topic in this club. = it might become a pain even for the right claimers, so this is just an idea for now.


- another idea would be: making a "registration" topic, where all ppl that actually ask for a banner to be made post in there the link to their claims page, and once u've registere u'll still can claim everywhere (without the extra row in any claim format) but without registration before of claiming, the claim would be rejected.

So, as u can see both of the ideas are just "ideas" for now, i'm here to ask for also others' opinions.

Also: making a little count, there are around 50 active claimers of categories (maybe not all of them do post into any category, but the number is more or less correct) and around 100+ for the monthly obsession claim topic.
Let's say around 80 of 100 claimers do ask for a banner to be made: so i'd ask at least partecipation at this topic of at least 40-50 members who actually always/often ask for a banner to be made.

As previously said, the topic will stay opened until the end of July, i really hope to see a good partecipation on this topic: comments, replies, ideas..even only what do u think..etc.

That said..i let u speak~
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Jul 13, 2010 7:40 AM
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Well, this is my opinion:

An extra row doesn't seem to be a good idea in my eyes. We already have quite a lot of rows ^^; (Not that that's bad, just sometimes I tend to lose the overview.) And if we add this extra row for the people who do not post their banners, we also add it for those who actually do. To me it seems a bit as if that would "punish" them as well, and I think that's unfair towards all the members who always show their banners/say thanks/etc. If one of those members would forget this row and get his claim rejected, that could end in him/her being annoyed and I honestly don't want that :/ (Of course here is no-one that wants that U_U).
But I also very well understand the Bannermakers. It's really ungrateful if the people don't even post their banners which were made extra for them and the BM spent his time on them. And it also doesn't help the self-esteem D: So not posting a banner is a no-go.

I think the registration would be good, though I as List-Updater don't know how I should know who is registered and who not XD And I fear the new members will forget it. So, I'm undecided what would be better to do.


Jul 13, 2010 8:13 AM
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I just started claiming and I don't really know what would be the best way to handle this, so I just wanted to say I wouldn't have a problem adjusting to whatever's decided. I just got my first claim banner yesterday(Hot-Headed Category), and I've already created an entry where it's posted.

Jul 13, 2010 8:39 AM
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Hmm.. I like the idea. I notice those who request a banner don't even post them or remove them after a certain amount of time. And if you may know, I'm the creator of Ultimate Claim, where a certain amount of claims is required to request the ultimate claim. After having the required amount of claims they remove/delete them later on, which makes having the Ultimate Claim card meaningless. You can imagine how pissed off I was. That's one of the reasons why I had to temporarily close the club, until I can figure out how to handle this. Well, enough of my complaining. I think the registration is a really good idea. Also, I think many member like the idea of claiming, but don't necessarily want a banner. Maybe you can ask if they even want a banner or not? What would be the point in claiming xD I don't know...

A little suggestion if you decide to do a registration topic: For those who do register, you probably give something like a special code/number or something. Although that might require another line in the claim format DX. Or mayvbe you can give out a badge/banner, as seen in cards clubs and the Vongola Mafia Famiglia. They can attach to their signature.
Jul 15, 2010 12:35 AM
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I'm putting my banners on my MAL page in profile. I think it's the best place^^
Sometimes i forgoet to say thanks^^" but i always get my banners.
Create rows wouldn't be graet for me because i'm lazy ;)
Jul 15, 2010 1:21 AM
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i really like the registration topic idea since im a really lazy person and i wouldnt want to go back to my "claims page" and copy the link and so on...-.-;;; too much work..and from the way i understood it, the registration is just a one time thing right? then I AGREE WITH THE REGISTRATION!! > < HAHA
Jul 15, 2010 3:17 AM
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those are both good ideas but i like the registration topic more since it would be more time-saving [for the claimers at least] .

if we add an extra row, it's okay for me going back to my blog to get the link either. if we add extra row to the claim format then the banner makers won't have to go see the registration topic to check if a claimer is registered . it'd be easier for them :]
Jul 15, 2010 6:17 AM
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Well, I think those ideas are pretty good actually ^^
My blog isn't updated, but that's because I'm on a vacation >.<

Another reason for the unupdated blogs is that I'm currently looking for a better host than PhotoBucket, I've been thinking of using my own host (which I also use for my scripted sigs), but I'm still doubting if it's a good idea >.<
I'll figure it out when I get home ^^

*I'm very supportive of the Registration idea =]
Jul 15, 2010 1:01 PM
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I favor the registration idea more than the extra row.

And for people that ask for banners and don't post them anywhere within a time limit (like a month), maybe they should be banned for the next (2 or3) claimings?

I know that sounds mean, but a lot of work is put into the banners from what I can tell and it kind of seems like people don't care.
Jul 15, 2010 2:45 PM

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Why would anyone NOT put the banners on display? Such amazing banners should be loved! I love showing off mine xD

Anyways to the point of the topic, I think the registration idea is the better of the two, I mean people rush enough to fill in the current rows already and with another, it might make more of a mess. However if we have up to a week to fill it in, I don't see much of a problem but still, I stick with the registration idea as it sounds like less trouble for all of us xD

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Jul 16, 2010 4:14 AM

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Interesting ideas (especially the registration idea).

I'm not much good with this kind of stuff (am still kind of new with this >.<) but all I can say is that I'll support you guys on whatever you have decided :]. I wouldn't mind filling an extra row xD.

Completely forgot the Rule #2 (">.<). Am really sorry will update my blog from now on.


Jul 17, 2010 11:15 AM

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I think they're good ideas. I specially like the 'registration' thing, even though it sounds like it's going to give even more work to you guys (if you have to be checking who has registered and who hasn't), but if that makes people really show their banners, I think it's great.

I'll also try to update my banners page more often ^^'


Jul 19, 2010 3:42 AM

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I'm one of the people who didn't have a claims page.Why I did that ?Well,despite being lazy, I thought it would be a better idea to make a claims page after I've gathered enough banners, instead of slowly updating it.But after I saw this topic, I decided to make a page, because it would be rude for the banner makers not to have one.


Anyway, as most of the people who replied in this thread, I support the registration idea ^__^
Jul 19, 2010 8:44 AM

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I only have 3 claims so far (excluding the ones I'm waiting to get banners for) so I put them in my profile, so I don't have a claim page yet. I update frequently though - like I do with member cards.
Jul 19, 2010 8:52 AM

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I do agree with ahin, extra row might a bit troublesome, however, the registration topic sounds really well, so I'm definately for.
Jul 19, 2010 11:33 AM

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I usually post my banners on my profile. I'm a bit lazy but I do get around to putting them up ;o; I'm more for the registration than the extra row. With so many rows I may overlook something and...like i said I'm lazy :'D
Jul 19, 2010 11:49 AM

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I've only recently gotten active, and I was really excited when I got enough posts to be able to request from the claims here xD As for the issue, I don't like the idea of the extra row. I don't really see it working out well >< I think the registration topic is a good idea though. I think that one would work much better :3 And it would show you the claiming members who are actually active and who care~

So basically: Against the extra row, but for the registration topic. ^.^


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Jul 19, 2010 11:54 AM

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Well I'm on board with the registration thingy.. We already have a bunch of rows to fill while claiming ^^
Jul 19, 2010 12:06 PM

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Well, I didn't know that here ( in the club ) are people who are claiming without having their own claim page - then why they joined this club at all ? >.<
Yes, this is a serious problem...
Many club members show their gratitude for the beautiful claim banners made by bannermakers saying "thanks" , "thank you" etc. ( obviously I'm not against it ;p ) , but in my opinion bannermakers would be really happy seeing banners on the display ^^

I created my claim page on the blog shortly when I received my first banners here ;D I'm trying to update as soon as I can, but I have my life outside MAL too.
So, I support the registration idea ;D
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Jul 19, 2010 1:47 PM
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I'm all for the registration notion. We, claimers, already have a hard time filling up the format, so an extra row will just make it worse.
Jul 19, 2010 2:36 PM

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I'm for the registration idea as well, sometimes the claim format has a lot of lines and it gets a little confusing.

I guess my only question would be how would the registration work would we be getting a number type thing?

I do a "registration by number" method for a club I'm admin in and a lot of people just ignore it or post a random/someone else's number and I spend a lot of time fixing that.

So if you were going to do the registration method you might have to watch that. ><

Jul 19, 2010 3:26 PM

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Hmm. I'm really bad at giving opinions and giving new ideas, but I'll do my best.

I like both ideas, but I think 'registration' topic is easier. Because, if I right understood, the banner makers (right?) have to check every time if the claimer put his claims page in the extra row (blog's entry). And come back often to the claimer's entry to check if he already has a claims page, and I would be confused if I had to do that. So that's why 'registration' topic is easier.

And I don't have any new ideas, sorry. I think that 'registration' topic is really the best and easiest.
Jul 19, 2010 3:50 PM

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kagome19 said:
I'm putting my banners on my MAL page in profile. I think it's the best place^^
Sometimes i forgoet to say thanks^^" but i always get my banners.
Create rows wouldn't be graet for me because i'm lazy ;)

^ Pretty much this for me :]
Jul 19, 2010 4:21 PM

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Hm, I think that the "registration" idea is better because most people are rushing to get their claims in so something can easily be forgotten if an extra row is added.

With the registration..it would probably be easy to keep track, just like a "claimed list"..and for helping list updaters know who is registered..I liked lehcar_k's idea of giving out a badge/card that can be attached to our signature ^^
Jul 19, 2010 5:16 PM

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i m not really good at giving any comments
but if you want me to choose among registration and post a new row..
i would also choose registration

posting a new row would make more confusion
and as often there are people who fill the claim format wrongly(sometimes that's meXD)
if there is one more line to check..the situation would getting worse and make more trouble to the thread watcher
Jul 19, 2010 10:47 PM

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As everyone had said the extra row would be troublesome and registration would be great xD

I'm pretty new with banners too so yeah ^^" I prefer to put mine on my profile over my blog though.

Jul 19, 2010 11:14 PM

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Yeah definitely the registration :D it's easier to keep track of things ~.^
Jul 20, 2010 1:03 AM

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I'm actually fine with both the registration or the extra line for the blog link.

I have a blog entry for my claims, and before that I had it on my profile. I try to update regularly, though I often fall behind because I am lazy after all :/
Jul 20, 2010 1:55 AM

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zerochances said:
..I liked lehcar_k's idea of giving out a badge/card that can be attached to our signature ^^


ye i like the badge/something idea of leh to put in the signature too :D
this way it would be easiest even for list updater to check if the claimer actually already registered and is able to claiming or not :3
we could make different examples of badges, with a small size, so ppl could keep that in their signature as well :D

i'll wait the end of july to see how this topic will going on, if there wont be any other idea i guess i'll proceed with the registration+badge thingie ♥


Jul 20, 2010 4:34 AM

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I'm for the registration idea as well. Will there be #id type registration? But that will add to the staff's work of updating regularly.
Adding an extra row is also a good idea. It may create confusion though. Even if members don't follow the format, if their claims get rejected they will definietly use the correct format the next time they post.


Jul 20, 2010 4:41 AM

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lehcar_k said:

Or mayvbe you can give out a badge/banner, as seen in cards clubs and the Vongola Mafia Famiglia. They can attach to their signature.


That was the first idea I thout about registration. Because I guess to remember your ID number while requesting will take even more time than giving the direct link to the claiming-page in blog. So I rise both hands for this idea

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Jul 20, 2010 3:38 PM

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im all for the registration~ it'll be much easier...
i think an extra row will be too troublesome... >.<
and i think the badge idea would be nice too~ =D
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Jul 22, 2010 5:23 AM

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Origa-san said:
lehcar_k said:

Or mayvbe you can give out a badge/banner, as seen in cards clubs and the Vongola Mafia Famiglia. They can attach to their signature.


That was the first idea I thout about registration. Because I guess to remember your ID number while requesting will take even more time than giving the direct link to the claiming-page in blog. So I rise both hands for this idea


yeah the badge idea seems pretty easier. it's kinda like a userbar so it doesn't really occupy too much space for people who want to keep they're signature-area clean and organized. like me XD
I'm all for this idea but the registration is ok too.
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Jul 22, 2010 5:32 AM

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I guess I'll go for the registration one rather than the extra row in claim format...cause the claim format here is a tough one already even I do understand the need of it^^"~

badge idea seems like a nice idea too.... pretty organized~ so I am not against this as well...

I think that's all for now~ coz really trapped in stuff at the moment nya~
gomen ne~ couldn't give very detailed opinion>w<~
Jul 30, 2010 4:02 AM

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well i think almost any of u voted for the registration thingie, well then in addiction to that, as lehcar suggested, i'd go with the badge idea :D
[since our updaters have already enough work to do, it would be too much if i assign them to check if user X is registered, everytime that there's a new claim.. soo a badge in the sig would solve anything :D]

--i already made some sketches for badges--


Jul 30, 2010 9:22 PM

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I support the registration idea too since the extra row would be troublesome.
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well i dont know if my opinion is needed here cause i still cant claim the regular ones (too few posts but im working at it) but i just claimed charas in the country claim and now in the star festival claim.
so for the future i'd support the registration idea more than the extra row...oh and the badge idea by lehcar_k isnt bad either n_n
Aug 18, 2010 4:34 PM

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I really appreaciate the idea. I don't like using my time for nothing, so it's quite considerate.
I'd really say, we'd make the registration stuff. At least it really sounds like a neat idea and it'll probably work out, too.
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Aug 18, 2010 9:18 PM

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I don't know if this topic is closed yet, but I'm up for any suggestion. I'm a new member and just claimed this month. I haven't recieved any banners yet so I can easily adapt to whatever new idea. I really think it's silly when people will take the time to claim, but not put the banners somewhere to be viewed. Isn't that the whole point? I always put the claims up and link them back to the club.
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I'm not much good with this kind of stuff (am still kind of new with this too) But i think the registration is good idea. ^^ If with registration better, then i support the idea.^^


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