Featured Anime Discussion - Psycho Pass

jimanator said:
i love it. pretty sure my psychopass would be cloudy.

Fellener said:
edgy

Fellener said:
People say this show is a good sci-fi with great themes exploration. Lets prove why this isnt the case, starting with the setting.

It doesnt make any fucking sense. In order to understand a fictional world, you need to be immersed in it. In order for you to be immersed in it, it needs to feel plausible up until a certain degree. And in order to feel plausible, it needs to have a balance; its good side and its bad side. Just because it’s called a dystopia doesn’t mean that it can’t have positive traits. In fact, all well executed dystopias in fiction, let’s say Shinsekai Yori, manage to convince you they are utopias half the time because they actually provide beneficial services to their population.

Psycho Pass doesn’t do that. It tells you straight from the very first episode that this society is awful. There is absolutely nothing positive about it. And proceeds into being like that that for the rest of the show. Why the fuck would I care to understand how this fictional setting works, if the setting itself is telling me that it doesn’t? The presentation is a non-stop line of contradictions. In one episode nobody knows what is violence, in another they recognize it immediately. In one episode they stay inactive before danger, in another they fight back. In one episode bulling lowers your criminal battle power, in another it raises it. Everything in this goddamn series is hell bent on convincing you that it doesn’t make any bloody sense.

If the setting is about order and stability, we should be able to see order and stability. Instead of that, all we just see is how it constantly falls apart in every single case. There are more mentally unstable people than there are normal. It makes you wonder how this completely unstable and illogical society was even established in the first place. The show never tells you; it doesn’t even have a backdrop to excuse its existence.

Just think how a show like Shinsekai Yori managed to turn all the above issues completely insignificant. It felt plausible, immersive, made sense up to a point, it had a backdrop story to excuse its existence and still showed its dark side without feeling like it needs to be destroyed. You can complain about the characters being dull, or the pacing being slow but the setting itself justifies everything. It manages to be equally good as a dystopia, as it is as a utopia.

Now that the setting is done, les go talk about its amazing characters that represents lots of ideals.

Akane, our dear old police investigator who starts working without knowing a fucking thing regarding her job. Seriously, she is sent to hunt criminals without even knowing what a gun is, or how the scanners look. The setting is constantly trying to excuse it as people not knowing anything because they live in bliss and have no idea of what the hell is going on in their own neighborhood. It is a good trick to have someone in constant need of an infodump, so the audience can also find out what the hell is going on with this stupid psycho pass.

Of course it’s still completely retarded once you realize someone needs to be told how to open a door, or how to walk down the street, or how to do things that she should be taught before being thrown into criminal cases. Akane is a stranger in her own society and just like all Urobutcher shows, she is not a character, she is a plot device that exists not to be pro-active and do something with the plot; oh, no sir. She is there as a passive observer who asks questions so the viewer can understand how her society works. And she fails even at that because it’s all fucking bullshit.

The main villains of Psycho Pass, who have this special power that makes them immune to the dominators. They can do any crime they want and the justice system can’t judge them. At the same time, they are pretentious enough to throw around monologues in a lazy attempt to teach the rest of the characters, as well as the audience, some bullshit moral message.

There is nothing more insulting than expecting a guy to teach you something that he has no idea what the fuck he is talking about. How the hell can you learn about the addiction to drugs by a guy who magically never gets high? How can an emotionless alien cat talk about emotions when it doesn’t even feel emotions? How can a machine talk about ethics when it doesn’t feel remorse? This is exactly what the villains in Psycho Pass, as well as in every other Urobucher show, are doing. They talk about flaws in a system that doesn’t work only for very peculiar circumstances no normal person can ever hope to encounter. So it’s all horseshit when they are trying to tell you the setting is a dystopia when its loopholes apply only to a handful of individuals.

Shitty characters doing shitty themes explorations. Pretentious shit.

Tarotist said:
TL;DR - Urobochi's characters talk too much...

GreenKouhai said:
What if psycho pass's society became reality in our world? welp i'll be sent to prison instantly ;v

Fellener said:
What actually makes the second part better?

-Cheez- said:


It's more entertaining. I thought the whole point of cartoons is to be entertaining, no?

Harus said:

Not all stories need to have a point '-' ...

Fellener said:


The good ones have. :^)

-Cheez- said:
Cartoons aren't the best place to look if you want food for thought to be honest...

Fellener said:
Thinking wrong is still at least some kind of thinking, Haru? :3

Norilla said:
I feel that during the first half of the series, the story was more tell then show about it, and got kind boring really fast... but it was interesting when they were figuring out the crime and taking action for it, but it really didn't feel worth it. But the 2nd half of the show was really interesting and I enjoyed most of it, a huge improvement over the first half, while also feeling very different from the first half, as if someone else wrote it. If I had to guess what happened, it'd have to be with the manga... how I see it, the writer wanted to write a series about police solving crime... but with how mangas tend to work is when it because unpopular the series has to end, so I take it that the readers grew bored of it, so the writer had to spice up the series in order to keep it running... that or because of the low chapter count, they had to end it so with their few remaining chapters, they tried to go in a different direction to see what would work for their next series.

I might be looking too much into this.

iN3krO said:
I see not many people enjoyed this show as much as me, however there's none I'd disagree more than @Fellener.

The first half of his post is just saying that the anime states that the system doesn't work for most of the time, while it's quite the countrary, pretty much early in the anime it's obvious that most people are quite happy with Sibyl (thinks it's in episode 2 where you see Akane talking with her friends).

However, the show focus on showing you what's going wrong because following the everyday events would be just like having a slice of life.


I just can't read more after the first 3 paragraphs because he completly missed the point of the anime and it even surprises other people are saying he has valid points ._.