 ~ Mononoke Hime ~ [center]Synopsis "A calm village residing in the mountains comes under attack from a demon-possessed boar one day. Ashitaka, a young man and prince of the tribe, engages the creature in an attempt to save his village. During the battle, the boar bites him on the arm, leaving it blackened and cursed. Following his village's traditions, Ashitaka is exiled and becomes a wanderer, looking for a solution to the curse before it engulfs him. Iron Town is a fortress under the leadership of Lady Eboshi. Through the clearing of the surrounding forests, Iron Town produces large amounts of Ironsand, used for gunpowder and other machinery. However, because of the forests destruction, nearby animal clans seek revenge led by a human girl of the Wolf clan called San. When Ashitaka comes to Iron Town, he discovers the area consumed in battle. Horrified, he attempts to create peace and befriend the Wolf Clan. However, after the forest's eradication and the ongoing war between Human and Beast, will the Spirit of the Forest be forgiving and accept Ashitaka's request to expel his curse?" ______________________________________________________________________________ Warning This thread will contain spoilers from the the Movie. If you have not seen this anime and don't want it spoilers do not proceed further into this thread. ______________________________________________________________________________ |
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| A simple story with amazing audiovisuals that create a vibrant world. 10/10 |
| For now I will use what I said to Phil So I will just say out of the bat that the movie was really great.. The animation was really really good, I was surprised by the quality level even thought the movie is from 1997. The musics were also pretty good and were able to keep the movie level. I liked the main character he was pretty skilled, and after he arm was possessed omg those bow skills.. he was ripping arms and heads with an ARROW! Hahahah I laugh so much at that hahaha xD His deer,Yakul, is also pretty amazing and I really liked that it was a different animal to see on the anime world (also pretty well animated). I love wolves so all the wolves are awesome by default ~ San was pretty nice too, I just think she deserved more screen time (moar!!). Also I have to mention the cute lil guys , aka kodamas. They were cute , spooky and fun at the same time haha. Story wise the anime is also pretty interesting, brings the whole natural pure world against human corruption theme, but it shows both sides and a main character that can't really decide what to do.. he just do what he feels like it's right all the time. (which is good and bad) The story, to me, had 4 sides; Wild, Tatara Ba , the emperor Will (that was represented by Jiko) and the Samurais that were there just be being troublesome. I think the story handled well those sides but the samurais were pretty much there to be annoying or to show tatara ba strength, since it's a movie and it's limited to the 2 hours I understand the lack of explanation on some of those relations but still is something to mention. I have to mention that maybe one of my favorite parts is when Ashitaka decides to be a bad ass .. He goes in the middle of everyone stop San and Eboshi... takes a shot... opens the gate and keep walking like nothing happened~ Haha for me it's a 9/10 , maybe someone can try to convince me to give it a 10 tho xD @Cheez I understand what you are saying about not haveing a climax.. there was more like a climax part of the film but not a climax part , i guess. Not sure if I agree that is overrated you have to take into consideration it was made in 1997 |
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| Mononoke Hime tells the story of a boy who seeks to save himself from the cursed type known as Steel. He goes to a town where Steel is being produced. When he learns of its effects to the life around the town, he learns of the Fairy wolves and the Fairy Girl. The Fairy Girl did not welcome the Steel-cursed boy because she did not think that he would understand the feelings of the fairies. But he needed a cure for his Steel curse, so the fairy girl guides him to meat Xerneas, the deer who grants life to those around him. Unfortunately, there are those who wanted the head of Xerneas, and they succeed doing so thanks to sheer force and the drive of their greed. What they did not know was that when Xerneas was harmed, he would spill the curse of the fairies over the land. Not even the power of Steel could stop him. The fairy curse spread throughout the land, consuming any human too foolish to stand in its way. In a last attempt to save themselves, the fairy girl and steel-cursed boy retrieve Xerneas' head and offer it to him. By doing so, the fairy curse is lifted from the land, and Xerneas becomes peaceful once again. The damage was done, but the humans survived and began to rebuild their homes. But because of their nature, the Fairy girl and the Steel Boy could never be together, but they do promise to see each other again. |
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| Seriously though, correct me if I'm wrong, but Xerneas shares A LOT of similarities to the Deer God. Even their designs are very similar. |
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| lol Taro that´s a very interesting summary ^^ Soooooooo i have Mononoke Hime as my favorite movie of all time and here is why: 1. I always loved Miyazaki for being able to tell simple messages through amazing stories. This story is fantastic. It does not judge anyone, it does not label anyone a pro-or antagonist. All you have is a bunch of people who do what they feel is the right thing to do for their own reasons. You can either pick one side of the conflict OR you can do what Ashitaka does. Learn both sides of the story, develop your own opinion and act according to it. 2. Despite this being set in a war like scenario with blood flowing and heads flying around, it is still quite family friendly. This is very important as those who are still able to learn about the message behind this anime are predominantly young and should watch this movie with their parents. 3. The characters are amazing. Ashitaka with his sense for justice who tries to end the whole war and slowly winning everyone´s acceptance and trust depsite flip-flopping between both parties as he pleases, San who has to learn through Ashitaka that not all humans are evil, Lady Eboshi who is meant to be hated but can´t be for her actions we do NOT see on screen, freeing all these people in the iron city. 4. It´s Ghibli. They have been so far ahead of their time when it comes to animation back in the 90s. This movie looks beautiful and i´ve seen sub-2005 movies that don´t look anyway near as good. 5. I generally have a weak spot for ancient time Japan and/or predominantly rural settings. My favorite anime ever Samurai Champloo has such a setting, Shinsekai yori ended up on my Favorites list and currently i am really enjoying Mushishi. The similar setting is what all of those shows have in common along with Mononoke. It makes for a relaxing atmosphere. 6. I think it´s Joe Hisaishis best Score. The music is beautiful and could not fit the movie any better. I listen to the main piece of music in this very regularly. It´s a 10 on my list, the only movie that ever got a 10. I was searching for flaws, points to deduct...and could not find anything. I found flaws in Howls Moving Castle, in (oscar winning) Spirited Away, in Nausicaa and in Castle in the Sky, but not here... I love this movie a lot. I rewatched it ten times at least and it still amazes me. |
| Cant really say bad things about it. Cant really say great things either. Just a good movie. |
| Remember guys, I AM NOT A PARAGON OF TASTE. I HAVE SHIT TASTE LIKE THE REST OF YOU. |
| I'll just agree with most of what has been said already, as I can't think of much to add. I really enjoyed this movie. |
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Tarotist said: Seriously though, correct me if I'm wrong, but Xerneas shares A LOT of similarities to the Deer God. Even their designs are very similar. Haha I know I remembered Xerneas(even though I don't know his name) when I saw.. the deer... chicken.. monkey thing god too. @Phil I'm not sure I would so far to the point of saying that it has no flaws . I agree with the no labels on characters.. it's a strong point of the show indeed. ^^ I think that the final score for this movie is a 9 , + or - 1.. depending on peoples tastes ^^ (8~10) |
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of course it has flaws, everything does. I just said i could not find any hehe (which is probably true for many people who rated a 10 on something) Let´s say the flaws are invisible to me in this case haha |
Harus said: I think that the final score for this movie is a 9 , + or - 1.. depending on peoples tastes ^^ (8~10) I gave it a 7, dont hate me. ;-; |
| Remember guys, I AM NOT A PARAGON OF TASTE. I HAVE SHIT TASTE LIKE THE REST OF YOU. |
| Welll sorry I'm so late on this xD I am completely biased about this movie, Not gonna lie. I've probably seen it 30+ times since I was a little kid. It has always been one of my favorites, it sucks me in no matter how many times I've seen it, which is really hard for most things xD I hgave and always will give it a 10/10 because of that ^.^ but reding all your reviews and seeing the different takes on this movie was nice soo.. Harus said: I liked the main character he was pretty skilled, and after he arm was possessed omg those bow skills.. he was ripping arms and heads with an ARROW! Hahahah I laugh so much at that hahaha xD His deer,Yakul, is also pretty amazing and I really liked that it was a different animal to see on the anime world (also pretty well animated). ................ I have to mention that maybe one of my favorite parts is when Ashitaka decides to be a bad ass .. He goes in the middle of everyone stop San and Eboshi... takes a shot... opens the gate and keep walking like nothing happened~ Haha for me it's a 9/10 , maybe someone can try to convince me to give it a 10 tho xD Bahahahaha Ashitaka is a bad ass xD. and so is Yaku! I wish I could have a deer like that O: Tarotist said: Seriously though, correct me if I'm wrong, but Xerneas shares A LOT of similarities to the Deer God. Even their designs are very similar. Cannot argue with that in the slightest PhKay said: Soooooooo i have Mononoke Hime as my favorite movie of all time ............................ I love this movie a lot. I rewatched it ten times at least and it still amazes me. I just love your post xD My favorite too! ............................... I'm done for now.. got things I gotta do today, bbl xD |
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My opinion about this movie?  Great! I should had saw before, but I like Miyazaki movies so I was pretty sure that would be at least an 8 score..., final grade 9....and I loved the qtlilcreatures ^^ Plus the company of my friends watching with me~~ Thanks Flu and Thanna ;) |
Viyrew said: Well I finally picked this up, laying around in my never ending to-watch list, and as I expected, ghibli didn't fail to amaze me. The story started well surprisingly well, the action between the boar demon, immidately catching my attention, and making me want to continue watching more. The story overall was incredible, although the ending felt a bit lacklaster, and makes me imagine, how great this would have been, if it was longer, allowing more development of the mononoke hime, of her past and relationship build up with her and the main character etc. One thing to note, is that there was no true villain to the story. The main character remained completely neutral, helping both sides when they needed it. This could mean that neither the human side or the nature side is correct, that conflict is sometimes necessary for each spieces to survive. The forces of the forest wants to kill the humans to protect their home, while the humans wants to mine the iron ore in the mountains, so they can trade it and keep their standard of living. As expected from ghibli, the animation was constant throughout, but I didn't pay attention to the music because I was so hooked on the story XD. I did a little bit of reading on this film after watching it, as ghibli films tend to have a moral message behind it, but was surprised there isn't really one in this film. Of course one can interpret it as a message to live along with nature instead of trying to destroy each other, but I'm not quite sure what this film was supposed to tell us. . Yes the fact that there's no right side is really interesting , and I think there's message in the movie.. it just ins't clear... It makes you think about it , the human nature interaction.. can't that be a message? Fellener said: Harus said: I think that the final score for this movie is a 9 , + or - 1.. depending on peoples tastes ^^ (8~10) I gave it a 7, dont hate me. ;-; Haha That's just my opinion it's obvious not everyone will vote like that xD @Tama Indeed he's a badass.. ok he almost died after that and did nothing for the next 1 hour of the movie xD still worth @Yunyun Cheers =) It was really nice to watch with you guys ^^ hopefully we can do that again on the next movie. |
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| Also an update We are going to have cards for Mononoke Hime =) get hyped hehe |
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| Deer, our card maker =) |
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| I'm really glad that this was the featured movie. It gave me a reason to go ahead experience the beauty of it. I have no clue how long I would of delayed watching this if it hadn't been the featured movie. I'm just going to go ahead and point out the obvious first: the graphic and audio quality is insane. Studio Ghibli is no stranger to quality productions. I would feel very sad if somebody that it used to newer animation say that this "looks old". For me personally though, I found the sound effects, music, and voice acting to be the real icing on the cake. Everything from the animal noises, to the ambient sounds, to the characters talking, all of it was music to my ears. Perhaps the only thing I didn't like on the audio side of things was a few of the minor character voices like Gonza or Toki but that might just be me. I'm not going to lie, was rather confused for the first hour what the true story was really about. Perhaps I was just being an imbecile. However, once I finally started realizing why characters were doing certain things, I began to appreciate it a lot more. One small thing that stood out to be was how accepting San was of Ashitaka. Sure, she wasn't 100% trusting of him but it was a rather fast transition from her holding a blade against his throat to saving his life. Now up until the last 20 or so minutes, I was ready to give this movie a 9/10. For me, that is a rare score. But... it didn't get a 9/10 because of how it ended. With all of the imagination that had gone into the rest of the movie, I was rather shocked at how predictable the ending was. I haven't read anyone else's thoughts on the movie yet so I have no clue if I'm the only one that feels this way. The way Jiko described the Deer God as a god of death had me hopeful for a dark or more twisted ending. But, I'm sure some people would disagree with me and prefer the happy ending that we got instead. Another small thing that really got was how Jiko and Eboshi had a sudden personality change at the end. They showed next to no sense of failure or denial. Overall, I gave this movie a 8/10 and I go by MAL's rating system so that would equate to this movie as being very good. Despite an ending that I was less than thrilled about, the movie was very enjoyable overall and extremely well made. My personal favorite part from the movie was when San infiltrated the "Iron town". It filled me with so much energy and I'm really thankful that I got the chance to see this movie. P.S. I'm a sucker for animal-companion charcters (Yakul) lol This is also my first time writing a reflection or anything of the sort about an anime so if I'm completely wrong about something or make no sense, I'm sorry. (I also didn't proofread any of this LOL) |
| @Flays I'm glad our featured movie helped you to watch this Movie, it is indeed a really good one. I agree with you on the visual qualities , sound effects, everything really great. Some have commented before that the ending was a bit "disappointing" or rather , that people were expecting more.. I guess the show putted a really high level of expectations to be fair. I liked the ending, to me the problem was not having a real climax .. we had some good action but no real ending climax I think. About the personality of Jiko and Eboshi it's hard to tell, everyone have such diverse personalities on this show... you can't really say "this guys is bad" or something like that.. I didn't saw that much change on their personalities. btw Yakul is awesome! ^^ |
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| Hm, I had the feeling they wanted the story to be a bit like a fairy-tale, so I'm not that unhappy with the ending, though I agree it was really abrupt. And a darker ending would have been interesting, too, but I think for me the happy one fits better in this case. I agree, I loved Yakul too! <3 |
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Tarotist said: Seriously though, correct me if I'm wrong, but Xerneas shares A LOT of similarities to the Deer God. Even their designs are very similar. Yes, their design is similar but cuz there is some folkrore about deer behind that influences ... what following next is some mythology about deer, not really related with the movie so you can ignore this post >_< well, there is many deer stories that xerneas is based, the idea of a deer as god of forest is used in many histories (tho my memory is falling me to recall the stories and google is not helping me neither) one example is snowwhite and the huntman About the inspiration of Xerneas: "Xerneas can be inspired by the white deer of Nara, divine messenger from Japanese mythology who lived in a forest of Heijō. There is also speculation that could be inspired by the fusion of the four creatures from Norse mythology like deer (Dainn, Dvalinn, Duneyrr and Durapror) living in the trunk of Yggdrasil, the great tree of Norse cosmology. They have a gem in the antlers of a different color each (blue, crimson, yellow, purple / black respectively). Some people also believes it was inspired on Ceryneian Hind ( It was sacred to Artemis, It had golden antlers like a stag and hooves of bronze or brass, and it was said that it could outrun an arrow in flight.)" A bit more about White deer of Nara: "According to local folklore, deer from this area were considered sacred due to a visit from Takemikazuchi-no-mikoto, one of the four gods of Kasuga Shrine. He was said to have been invited from Kashima, Ibaraki, and appeared on Mt. Mikasa-yama riding a white deer. From that point, the deer were considered divine and sacred by both Kasuga Shrine and Kōfuku-ji" also I will mention Cerunnos "Cernunnos was often portrayed with antlers himself, and was a god of the forest and wild animals. He was also seen as a god of 'Plenty', and the large Celtic 'Cauldrons of Plenty' often featured deer motifs amongst their ornate decoration." to he was more human with antlers and also I will name the endless forest game |
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| That's a lot of Deer mythology knowledge o.o Pretty interesting , seems like it was good movie to be the first discussion here hehe even the deer god have some relation with yggdrasil (might have) |
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| wasn't in yggdrasil yet when this was made, but was scrolling down the index. love this movie |
jimanator said: wasn't in yggdrasil yet when this was made, but was scrolling down the index. love this movie Yey xD glad to know that the index was used =) |
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| @harus what you just said made me laugh for some reason. |
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