Fairy Tail
Who is the better character?
Lucy
50.0%
41
Lisanna
20.7%
17
Both are awesome
12.2%
10
Neither are good
17.1%
14
82 votes
| Lucy easily. She always strives to get stronger as we've seen during her training with Capricorn before the GMG and then her obvious improvement since the one year timeskip after Tartaros. She has also played a key role and saved a lot of characters throughout the series. Natsu, Loke heck even Juvia to say nothing of her contribution during the GMG and the massive save she did at such a high price to herself during Tartaros. Yes she gets rescued a lot but she has saved many characters on her own as well. She has Lisanna beat in raw power as well. Hell just in her taurus form she was enough to be on par with the rest of Team Natsu in terms of sheer destructive capability. The most Lisanna can do is claw people's faces with her cat girl form. It's pitiful |
| I'm fine with both but Lisanna's a personal favorite. Cute design, nice role in the story, lovely support character. I find her bond with her siblings rather touching too. She does seem to receive quite a bit of character bashing though, sadly... |
| Definitely neither. Lucy is just an overall bad character and Lisanna isn't relevant to the series at all. Bringing her back was so painfully pointless. |
G_Spark233Jul 1, 2015 10:12 PM
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| Lucy. I appreciate her growth character and power wise. She keeps getting better while other characters who used to be great is getting worse. That and for all the fanservice talk besides 442(where she and Erza was flirting with some random guy to get their way) she hasn't been used for fanservice since the GMG |
| I prefer Lisanna looks wise, but everything else Lucy has her beat. Sort of unfair, she's had no characterization since her pointless return. |
| Jaywalker. |
| Freed activates enchantment to make it so they can't use magic Lissana wins instant K.O becuase Lucy is a school girl that can do shit without magic. |
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KingAce261 said: Freed activates enchantment to make it so they can't use magic Lissana wins instant K.O becuase Lucy is a school girl that can do shit without magic. Okay, so what the fuck can Lisanna do without her magic? Really what can she do? In terms of strength Lucy can kick, plus she has the whip, Lisanna has nothing. |
metsujin said: KingAce261 said: Freed activates enchantment to make it so they can't use magic Lissana wins instant K.O becuase Lucy is a school girl that can do shit without magic. Okay, so what the fuck can Lisanna do without her magic? Really what can she do? In terms of strength Lucy can kick, plus she has the whip, Lisanna has nothing. LOL Lisanna wins without her magic? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THAT IS THE BEST JOKE EVER. What is she going to do? Waiter Lucy to death? Get out of town King. |
Darklight0303 said: metsujin said: Okay, so what the fuck can Lisanna do without her magic? Really what can she do? In terms of strength Lucy can kick, plus she has the whip, Lisanna has nothing. LOL Lisanna wins without her magic? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH THAT IS THE BEST JOKE EVER. What is she going to do? Waiter Lucy to death? Get out of town King. Hardy har har har. Have you seen lissana Magic its takeover that means she has to know some combat because she has to get close to her opponents and use close range attacks unlike Lucy who just summons spirits and watches the fight from the sidelines. |
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KingAce261 said: Hardy har har har. Have you seen lissana Magic its takeover that means she has to know some combat because she has to get close to her opponents and use close range attacks unlike Lucy who just summons spirits and watches the fight from the sidelines. Firstly Lucy fights alongside her spirits, second Lisanna can only transform into animals, cute ones nonetheless. Sorry man Lucy > Lisanna in terms of combat skills. |
metsujin said: KingAce261 said: Hardy har har har. Have you seen lissana Magic its takeover that means she has to know some combat because she has to get close to her opponents and use close range attacks unlike Lucy who just summons spirits and watches the fight from the sidelines. Firstly Lucy fights alongside her spirits, second Lisanna can only transform into animals, cute ones nonetheless. Sorry man Lucy > Lisanna in terms of combat skills. Trying to make a deluded fanboy like him see reason is pointless. Plus lets not forget that the Taurus stardress is focused on physical force. So even though she does get a boost from that she has to have skills in hand to hand to use them to their effect. DID YOU NOT SEE THAT FUCKING POSTURE SHE HAD WHEN SHE PUNCHED OUT THE VIRUS CHICK IN THE BABY MAKER? That was text book fighting posture. Lisanna relies ENTIRELY on her takover for anything offensive. Lucy would destroy Lisanna with ease. |
Darklight0303 said: What offensive feats does she even have w/her magic?metsujin said: Firstly Lucy fights alongside her spirits, second Lisanna can only transform into animals, cute ones nonetheless. Sorry man Lucy > Lisanna in terms of combat skills. Trying to make a deluded fanboy like him see reason is pointless. Plus lets not forget that the Taurus stardress is focused on physical force. So even though she does get a boost from that she has to have skills in hand to hand to use them to their effect. DID YOU NOT SEE THAT FUCKING POSTURE SHE HAD WHEN SHE PUNCHED OUT THE VIRUS CHICK IN THE BABY MAKER? That was text book fighting posture. Lisanna relies ENTIRELY on her takover for anything offensive. Lucy would destroy Lisanna with ease. |
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Crescentgenisi said: I am not going to quote anybody But Capricorn is seen training lucy's magic early on but he is a martial arts expert so I would assume that he would teach her some skills. The realistic thing about being a nonfighter learning martial arts is that you have to be a blackbelt or higher degree to do damage against someone who has that fighter/killer instinct. So it would take some time to learn. And lucy is growing more aggressive you can see that in how she got mad (in I think 438) when the guild hit mira with a bottle as oppose to the second chapter when mira was initially hit and lucy just kind of freaked out at the guild fighting each other. Lucy always tries and consistently improves, but everyone else improves so her strengths are hidden. I hope Hiro doesn't do something like with what happen with Sakura where she did something super awesome but it was 400 chapters too late for anyone to care. People's opinions of lucy started to improve with tartarus but I think her getting captured by Avatar and the sucky filler eclipse anime portraying her as super weak has caused the haters to rise back up. Being capture by Tartaros wasn't because she was weak physically... more like mentally aka she let her emotions cloud her judgement that's why the got captured in the first place. But yes, Lucy always tries to improve, and that's shown through out the series. I do not hate Lisanna, stated this a couple of time, but I still find her character useless, she's just there, I mean a lot of people say "She's cute", almost all the girls in FT are cute. I hope she does something this arc or next arc, I sometimes thought of "What if Hiro kills her..." but then I think "Why bring her back if he'd kill her later." Seriously she should've stayed dead. |
ziggy_Z said: Darklight0303 said: What offensive feats does she even have w/her magic?Trying to make a deluded fanboy like him see reason is pointless. Plus lets not forget that the Taurus stardress is focused on physical force. So even though she does get a boost from that she has to have skills in hand to hand to use them to their effect. DID YOU NOT SEE THAT FUCKING POSTURE SHE HAD WHEN SHE PUNCHED OUT THE VIRUS CHICK IN THE BABY MAKER? That was text book fighting posture. Lisanna relies ENTIRELY on her takover for anything offensive. Lucy would destroy Lisanna with ease. Uhhhhh scratching? |
| Considering their screen time, Lisana. |
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Crescentgenisi said: I should have added Cana and Levi to this polling thread as well. Then it would have been a more general discussion than just lucy/lisanna bashing. Because Cana is suppose to be powerful but has yet to do anything useful while Levi is not very powerful but always shows up in the nick of time to help out. Right now the ranking of ft girls would be 1. erza (high) 2. mira/juvia/lucy/wendy/cana 3. lisanna/levi (low) I think you forget Cana saved the whole guild during Tartarus when Elfman tried to blow them up BECAUSE LISANNA GOT CAPTURED AGAIN Crescentgenisi said: Darklight0303 said: Uhhhhh scratching? As a penguin, she sat on azuma... before she transformed and tried to scratch him. Hmm... I think Happy has more feats than Lisanna. Lisanna has a cool character design and a great backstory so hope Hiro is not just bringing her along on the latest arc as a support person to get captured. Mashima has shown nothing but contempt for her character so far. I wouldn't get your hopes up |
Darklight0303 said: Crescentgenisi said: I should have added Cana and Levi to this polling thread as well. Then it would have been a more general discussion than just lucy/lisanna bashing. Because Cana is suppose to be powerful but has yet to do anything useful while Levi is not very powerful but always shows up in the nick of time to help out. Right now the ranking of ft girls would be 1. erza (high) 2. mira/juvia/lucy/wendy/cana 3. lisanna/levi (low) I think you forget Cana saved the whole guild during Tartarus when Elfman tried to blow them up BECAUSE LISANNA GOT CAPTURED AGAIN Crescentgenisi said: As a penguin, she sat on azuma... before she transformed and tried to scratch him. Hmm... I think Happy has more feats than Lisanna. Lisanna has a cool character design and a great backstory so hope Hiro is not just bringing her along on the latest arc as a support person to get captured. Mashima has shown nothing but contempt for her character so far. I wouldn't get your hopes up All all Lucy has is a whip and a stupid kick that makes no sense. Though I guess you are right Lissana ain't got much going for her either. Honestly with no magic it'd just turn into a stupid chick fight. |
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Crescentgenisi said: KingAce261 said: All all Lucy has is a whip and a stupid kick that makes no sense. Though I guess you are right Lissana ain't got much going for her either. Honestly with no magic it'd just turn into a stupid chick fight. It would be a chick fight. Levy and Cana without magic would be bad too. Wendy without her magic would be pretty bad too. I mean even with her magic in the beginning she was kind of annoying. She might be better now because Carla seems to be able to pull of some hand to hand combat, but who knows. I Can't agree to that whatsoever. Wendy was AT most annoying only during Oracion Seis but there is' understandable since this was the FIRST group of REAL people and even a fellow Dragon Slayer like her that she'd met. Also how is a whip not working in favor of Lucy. Whips can strangle, restrain, disarm trip, you name it. Lucy has always made it clear that her ideal as a celestial spirit mage is to fight ALONGSIDE her spirits. As such she always trains and strives for strength. Hell even fucking Yukino proved she has knowledge of hand to hand combat if you factor in the few decent bits of that eclipse filler. Plus Lucy is PLENTY aware of her weakness that if she loses her keys she's in for a rough time. Minerva beat that lesson into her quite thoroughly and the thought of losing her keys again after Tartarus is definitely one of her greatest fears I'd wager. |
| Neither are good imo. |
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Crescentgenisi said: Snip We are talking hypothetical here. As in a world where the two combatant characters have no feelings for one another except to utterly defeat their opponent. THat's the only way you can compare powers and skills objectively and in that regard once you eliminate Magic, Lucy still wins. Also Lucy has two whips the normal one and Fleuve de Etoile whose properties are kinda hard to accurately point out but it's not an ordinary whip. |
Darklight0303Jul 8, 2015 3:09 PM
Crescentgenisi said: Darklight0303 said: Really? I'm hurt :P Hypothetically Lucy should be able to win even without the whips because she should have some hand to hand combat at this point plus Lucy had the lucy kick and was able to throw some punches in the past. But yea I was just explaining why I thought it would be a chick fight. I have this image of sherry and lucy pulling each others hair from either galuna island or oracion seis. On a side note: I really thought her two whips had combined forms. Idk where I got that idea Hahaha well that was a gag fight rather than a real fight :P The handles are different. Fleuve's is more intricate while the normal whip is well normal. |
Crescentgenisi said: Darklight0303 said: I Can't agree to that whatsoever. Wendy was AT most annoying only during Oracion Seis but there is' understandable since this was the FIRST group of REAL people and even a fellow Dragon Slayer like her that she'd met. Also how is a whip not working in favor of Lucy. Whips can strangle, restrain, disarm trip, you name it. Lucy has always made it clear that her ideal as a celestial spirit mage is to fight ALONGSIDE her spirits. As such she always trains and strives for strength. Hell even fucking Yukino proved she has knowledge of hand to hand combat if you factor in the few decent bits of that eclipse filler. Plus Lucy is PLENTY aware of her weakness that if she loses her keys she's in for a rough time. Minerva beat that lesson into her quite thoroughly and the thought of losing her keys again after Tartarus is definitely one of her greatest fears I'd wager. That is true - Lucy does have skills with a normal whip. But I can't see Lucy whipping lisanna. That is why I think it would be more of a chick fight. Wrestling and pulling hair like Lucy and Sherry do when they fight. And her loss against Minerva is exactly why I would think capricorn would teach her martial arts because he is an expert. Wendy was annoying until she supported Gajeel and Natsu in the final battle of Edolas Arc, but I personally really didn't like how Wendy didn't do anything when the exceeds were throwing stuff at her when she was trying to save them. And Wendy on tenrou was awful until she sort of helped in the fight with Hades. But in the GMG she was good and the df in tartarus was awesome. But I think it is ok for wendy to be annoying in the beginning. I actually like the fact that Wendy was annoying. She was a child unlike the other characters. She needed to have a different personality. The story shows a child growing into this independent confident dragon slayer even though Hiro will forever keep her a loli to bait those creepy men like Mesh. Her growth also needs to be slow because we can't have her turning into natsu when he is only like 11 or 12 now. Its like with Lucy. I like how Lucy was portrayed as weak and has had a slow growth. Its more realistic. Even though sometimes I wish she could have grew faster. But if you take away Wendy's magic, I can't see her doing much. She doesn't have the mass or the killer instint to win against Lucy, Lisanna or Cana. Maybe Levy. Yeah except if you ask me being weak in the beginning then getting stronger only works for the kids. I mean look at all the other wizards they were always that powerful then look at Lucy she just got strong and had 2nd origin long ago but still just got strong after a year gap. Plus we don't even know if she actually got strong. There was no way to see anyone's strength since avatar was weak as shit the only one we actually knew got a long a lot more powerful was Natsu since he one shoted blue note who it took gildarts to beat. But yeah any of the girls except Erza and Mira without magic and fighting is just gonna be a chick fight. Oh and a whip requires strength and if you don't have the strength to back it it's a liability. That's why I don't count it when Lucy fights. I mean think about it if you wrap someone in it and they r strong they can just pull and you some to their fist. Oh and isn't her new whip magic so that wouldn't work in a no magic fight anyway. |
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metsujin said: But objectively how Trentor11 said, Lucy is a much better character. There is no objectively. Much like everything else in judgment it's all subjective. The only thing objective when it comes to the two characters that is relevant to judgement is that Lucy obviously had more screen time and focus. Consider this on mind, Lisana can be a better character for someone because if she is average, Lucy is below average. If someone thinks Lucy is badly written, then having more screen time is a negative. And to me, Lisana is better written. With what little screen time she had, she made a lasting impression on me, due to her relationship with her siblings and the flashback with Natsu. While Lucy have so much screen time, yet she is barely developed, she is constantly failing, weak and depends on others and is the poster girl for the fanservice of the series, the butt of all jokes. From what I read in the manga, after the Tatross arc, she was shown so dependand on the guild, made her seem pathetic imo, everybody else leading their own paths on life, while the only thing she had was the guild. |
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tsudecimo said: metsujin said: But objectively how Trentor11 said, Lucy is a much better character. There is no objectively. Much like everything else in judgment it's all subjective. The only thing objective when it comes to the two characters that is relevant to judgement is that Lucy obviously had more screen time and focus. Consider this on mind, Lisana can be a better character for someone because if she is average, Lucy is below average. If someone thinks Lucy is badly written, then having more screen time is a negative. And to me, Lisana is better written. With what little screen time she had, she made a lasting impression on me, due to her relationship with her siblings and the flashback with Natsu. While Lucy have so much screen time, yet she is barely developed, she is constantly failing, weak and depends on others and is the poster girl for the fanservice of the series, the butt of all jokes. From what I read in the manga, after the Tatross arc, she was shown so dependand on the guild, made her seem pathetic imo, everybody else leading their own paths on life, while the only thing she had was the guild. The question here is "Who is a better character?" Not "Which character I like more." There's fanservice in Fairy Tail, woow we all know that, everyone was used in fanservice, throughout the series. You can clearly see Lucy development, since the beginning until now. She states several times that she's not strong, but despite that she still tries her best. Actually she's one of the character with most development in the series. You blame her for depending on her guild? That's her family, she literally has no one besides them. Mother died, father died, Fairy Tail is her family and cares about them. You actually see her try to become a reporter, and she tried to bring back the guild together, because she cared about, because that's where she feels at home. I can go into more detail why Lucy is a better character than Lisanna. Lisanna has indeed less screen time, heck she's a supporting character, but up until this point, what exactly did she accomplish? Nothing, some thought she'd be a 'love rival' or something like that, personally I'm glad it didn't go that way. The only aspect that I like about her, it's the whole Strauss siblings stuff. I don't hate her, I just find her pointless, tell me that you wouldn't have preferred for her to stay dead. |
tsudecimo said: metsujin said: But objectively how Trentor11 said, Lucy is a much better character. There is no objectively. Much like everything else in judgment it's all subjective. The only thing objective when it comes to the two characters that is relevant to judgement is that Lucy obviously had more screen time and focus. Consider this on mind, Lisana can be a better character for someone because if she is average, Lucy is below average. If someone thinks Lucy is badly written, then having more screen time is a negative. And to me, Lisana is better written. With what little screen time she had, she made a lasting impression on me, due to her relationship with her siblings and the flashback with Natsu. While Lucy have so much screen time, yet she is barely developed, she is constantly failing, weak and depends on others and is the poster girl for the fanservice of the series, the butt of all jokes. From what I read in the manga, after the Tatross arc, she was shown so dependand on the guild, made her seem pathetic imo, everybody else leading their own paths on life, while the only thing she had was the guild. Constantly failing? Are you fucking serious? Remind me again WHO BUSTED THE WHOLE GUILD OUT OF ALEGRIA AT THE COST OF ONE OF HER MOTHER'S PRECIOUS MEMENTOS AND FIRST FRIENDS. you did not read the manga whatsoever. |
metsujin said: tsudecimo said: There is no objectively. Much like everything else in judgment it's all subjective. The only thing objective when it comes to the two characters that is relevant to judgement is that Lucy obviously had more screen time and focus. Consider this on mind, Lisana can be a better character for someone because if she is average, Lucy is below average. If someone thinks Lucy is badly written, then having more screen time is a negative. The question here is "Who is a better character?" Not "Which character I like more." Hence me saying ''badly written'' not ''unlikeable'' when talking about Lucy. Seems like my point went entirely above your head. I'm not here to argue about FT characters or FT in general, I can waste my time in better ways (and saying she is one of the characters with the most development, already means we have complete opposite views of her character). My entire point was that if someone thinks Lucy is a bad character (as in badly written, not simply dislike), and see Lisana as average in terms of writing being a minor supporting character all, then Lisana would be a better character than Lucy from his perspective. Average > below average in a nutshell. Just don't throw words like objectivity in discussion, is what I'm saying. |
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Crescentgenisi said: Has it ever been stated if lisanna has had her second origin unlocked? Impossible since she was not around when Ultear unlocked it for Natsu and Company |
| Both are awesome. Lucy is my most favorite ever, so that speaks for itself. And Lisanna... the poor girl who had her development stolen just so she could be revived... She's very sweet though. Child Lisanna is among my favorites. |
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Crescentgenisi said: Ahhhhhh! I finally realized why lisanna, elfman, evergreen, cana, levi, fried, and bixlow are coming .... to give the Gemini star dress a chance to clone people. I wonder if Gemini can clone base Wendy, not df Wendy of course...... I don't see how they can come in time. They don't have an underwater temple to bring them unnoticed or a teleporter. Using Blue Pegassus' airship would only get them shotdown by Alvares |
| Again why is this up for debate. One character grows while the other was a plot device. One gets screen time and focus the other doesn't. One has plot relevance the other doesn't. Nothing Lisanna did(which is next to nothing had a lasting impression) the relationship with Natsu was barely touched on so I didn't see the point. Bringing her back was a waste. Hiro shouldn't cater to the fans. Now she's back and it solves nothing. Because Hiro doesn't know what to do. He should've kept her dead and have Mira keep building her relationship with Yukino and vice versa |
TheGrandSage23 said: Again why is this up for debate. One character grows while the other was a plot device. One gets screen time and focus the other doesn't. One has plot relevance the other doesn't. Nothing Lisanna did(which is next to nothing had a lasting impression) the relationship with Natsu was barely touched on so I didn't see the point. Bringing her back was a waste. Hiro shouldn't cater to the fans. Now she's back and it solves nothing. Because Hiro doesn't know what to do. He should've kept her dead and have Mira keep building her relationship with Yukino and vice versa Could not agree more |
Darklight0303 said: TheGrandSage23 said: Again why is this up for debate. One character grows while the other was a plot device. One gets screen time and focus the other doesn't. One has plot relevance the other doesn't. Nothing Lisanna did(which is next to nothing had a lasting impression) the relationship with Natsu was barely touched on so I didn't see the point. Bringing her back was a waste. Hiro shouldn't cater to the fans. Now she's back and it solves nothing. Because Hiro doesn't know what to do. He should've kept her dead and have Mira keep building her relationship with Yukino and vice versa Could not agree more Could not agree less. You do realize this is just hiro focusing on Lucy the worst character (well from this last chapter she got slightly better)becuase he wants to and made her the female mc. That's why I know it's gonna be NaLu and knew from the start but if you ask me the better character would be lisinna and she has so much potential just like everyone else on B team and basically everyone not in team natsu. I get they r main and should be focused on, but you don't have to do so little with everyone else. We know minimum about Laxus, but it was good enough. We know next to nothing about the stratus siblings and Mira is very powerful and a great character. We hardly know anything about gildirts besides he was a playboy and still is. We know 0 about levy and all we know about her really is her name. I'm just saying that you can't bring in plot/character development/character growth and character information because really the only characters that get some are those one team (some other characters get some but not that much) Natsu and I wish that hiro would at least start giving more non team natsu characters some too. |
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