| MAL LAG sucks, it's after 2 AM here, I gotta run. Stop fighting please! We need to stick together! We will get them all, don't worry =) |
| unvote: X_at_home, Vote: Lucian |
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Mikiuza said: Lucian tell me one GOOD reason why I shouldn't vote for you right now. I'm good at trivia I can choose someone who won't die tonight and actually get a result, then maybe I can finally redeem myself. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| @zymf, If I tell you how I know who the doctor is, the mafia will kill them, the doc is way more important than me. Look, I know I make crazy confusing posts that don't make sense most of the time but there's order in chaos, I'm following a plan here. I will not tip off the mafia by telling them what I know. one more time, my top 3 suspects are: (this time the real ones this time) 1. Zurel 2. Karrote 3. xanic ^ In that order |
| I really have to go now, it's 3 AM, I can't follow with this lag Stop fighting, karote is the fake santa, x_at_home or lucian are santas (one is lazy and the other was rb-ed) dammit, I spilled the beans... now I'm gonna be rb-ed/killed @ night, you bunch of scaredy cats >.< vote for zurel |
| still lag? |
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| K lag gone. Thinking with yesterday's mafia play, I can speculate on what they were thinking and why they made that play: The mafia killed the Jester, which probably means they wanted one of the Doc/Lookout dead. They killed the Jesster and this is a TOWN ADVANTAGE 100%. Now with the Jester gone, if they kill one of the Lookout/Doc, the pool of non claimed will be smaller. This is very big for the town. Easier mafias. ^With that case above, I believe the mafia doesn't care about the cops at all. The investigator cop probably went with one of the other two that are not clear. In this case: THEY KNOW WHO IS THE DOC AND WHO IS THE LOOKOUT RIGHT NOW. I feel like this is probably the best play that the mafia has last night. Looking ahead: The mafia can make the following play. I am saying this because there is a very big possibility that the mafia killed the cleared in order for them to narrow down who the doc is and who the lookout is. They will be trapped and it will be mafia advantage. These are the possibilities: Kill doctor RB Lookout. Kill Vig RB Doctor. Kill Lookout RB Doctor. RB Vig Kill Doc The best mafia play right now is for the lookout to out who they think is clear and for the doc to out their day 1 and 2 saves IF this will move our operation further. Right now I can say that Zymf is my clear. I am also speculating that the Godfather is among the ones that fake claimed to be cops. |
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grave_robber said: I really have to go now, it's 3 AM, I can't follow with this lag Stop fighting, karote is the fake santa, x_at_home or lucian are santas (one is lazy and the other was rb-ed) dammit, I spilled the beans... now I'm gonna be rb-ed/killed @ night, you bunch of scaredy cats >.< vote for zurel well this makes sense to me and follows the reasoning of what I would do as a mafia member find out lazy santa and than RB them than claim it yourself and no one will mistrust you if done well. I also have my own feelings on Zurel been mafia so agree with that. [b] Vote Zurel [/quote] |
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| Also town best play is to lynch the Role Blocker. |
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Mikiuza said: Also town best play is to lynch the Role Blocker. I agree with that main reason why I am not going for the person I think is GF since they have no powers best to deal with the stronger ones 1 |
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Mikiuza said: I want Pyro, Zurel to tell me who they visited last night. ^ I also want answers for these so lookout can confirm. |
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Mikiuza said: Mikiuza said: I want Pyro, Zurel to tell me who they visited last night. ^ I also want answers for these so lookout can confirm. did you say who you visited during night? |
~I am just one sadist who supports friends~  |
The_Pyromaani said: Mikiuza said: ^ I also want answers for these so lookout can confirm. did you say who you visited during night? I'm asking who you visited last night. |
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Mikiuza said: The_Pyromaani said: did you say who you visited during night? I'm asking who you visited last night. And i gave a question back |
~I am just one sadist who supports friends~ |
The_Pyromaani said: Mikiuza said: I'm asking who you visited last night. And i gave a question back Why don't you answer my question. It's a simple question. Who did you visit last night? |
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Mikiuza said: The_Pyromaani said: And i gave a question back Why don't you answer my question. It's a simple question. Who did you visit last night? You asking around who everyone did visit. If i remmeber correctly you havent said yourself who you did visit. |
~I am just one sadist who supports friends~ |
| The sass is real. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
The_Pyromaani said: Mikiuza said: Why don't you answer my question. It's a simple question. Who did you visit last night? You asking around who everyone did visit. If i remmeber correctly you havent said yourself who you did visit. So what's wrong about asking who you visited? Is something wrong? Is the reason why you don't wanna reveal it is because I didn't reveal mine myself? Tell me the real truth please. or answer Who did you visit last night? Also IIRC, I didn't ask everyone who they visited. I had two targets with a possible third one coming up later. We are trying to sort out who the lookout/doctor is between the mafias. Is there a very good reason why you don't wanna reveal who you visited? |
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| So what do you think about this Lucian. |
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Mikiuza said: The_Pyromaani said: You asking around who everyone did visit. If i remmeber correctly you havent said yourself who you did visit. So what's wrong about asking who you visited? Is something wrong? Is the reason why you don't wanna reveal it is because I didn't reveal mine myself? Tell me the real truth please. or answer Who did you visit last night? Also IIRC, I didn't ask everyone who they visited. I had two targets with a possible third one coming up later. We are trying to sort out who the lookout/doctor is between the mafias. Is there a very good reason why you don't wanna reveal who you visited? Could be or maybe not. Even if you say im denying the question. So are you. I can ask the same questions from you too and stop getting so worked up. |
~I am just one sadist who supports friends~ |
Mikiuza said: So what do you think about this Lucian. You should answer Pyro's question. Those who ask questions should be expected to answer them as well. You've asked a lot of questions this game, so now it's your turn. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
The_Pyromaani said: Mikiuza said: So what's wrong about asking who you visited? Is something wrong? Is the reason why you don't wanna reveal it is because I didn't reveal mine myself? Tell me the real truth please. or answer Who did you visit last night? Also IIRC, I didn't ask everyone who they visited. I had two targets with a possible third one coming up later. We are trying to sort out who the lookout/doctor is between the mafias. Is there a very good reason why you don't wanna reveal who you visited? Could be or maybe not. Even if you say im denying the question. So are you. I can ask the same questions from you too and stop getting so worked up. Hey now. You're the one who's getting so worked up. The funniest word most people here use is "worked up" and defensive and you guys seem to just throw it around. Now not answering that simple question is what i call getting defensive. So who did you visit last night. Rather does a cop want to ask this person these question? It's interesting how they dont' want to answer my legit question or skipping it with another question. LucianRoy said: Mikiuza said: So what do you think about this Lucian. You should answer Pyro's question. Those who ask questions should be expected to answer them as well. You've asked a lot of questions this game, so now it's your turn. Hmm interesting answer. Keeping the pressure off your teammate, I see. Don't think I have to answer anything with grave-robber catching my towntells. |
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Mikiuza said: LucianRoy said: You should answer Pyro's question. Those who ask questions should be expected to answer them as well. You've asked a lot of questions this game, so now it's your turn. Hmm interesting answer. Keeping the pressure off your teammate, I see. Don't think I have to answer anything with grave-robber catching my towntells. More like common courtesy, but I digress. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Tell me, is Zurel new to the game of Mafia? I'm curious as to why he asked me what sheep votes are. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Zurel said: No, I just read threads that you had played in. But I never admitted to being the brightest button in the box. This is my third game after all, so what I am doing is not to exactly say you or Karrote are the wolves, but just to say that there are people who are just as suspicious as I am, if not more. I answer my own question. So Zurel is not new, yet he doesn't know what a sheep vote is? Interesting. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: If anything, I'm voting Zurel for the "sheep" vote he gave yesterday. He later explained it was for personal reasons, but I don't know if I believe him. He's really good at trivia, so it'll be sad if he dies. Vote: Zurel Our conversation on the sheep vote is way back. I just want to investigate someone tonight. I still don't believe that sheep vote. Plus I trust our vig... I guess. Also, depending on this flip, we can gain a lot of info as to who's town, and who isn't. This is a good choice: Vote: Zurel |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Zurel said: No, I just read threads that you had played in. But I never admitted to being the brightest button in the box. This is my third game after all, so what I am doing is not to exactly say you or Karrote are the wolves, but just to say that there are people who are just as suspicious as I am, if not more. I answer my own question. So Zurel is not new, yet he doesn't know what a sheep vote is? Interesting. Oh, wow. Am I that good as to make you think I am not a newbie? I am honoured, Sherlock. Ps to Grave: My time zone is different, you can't possibly expect me to be squabbling along with you at 2 in the morning, every single night. Keep that in mind for future reference😶. And as Xanic said, I have a life outside MAL. |
| Just where are you peeps when I am online? I need to get back to work. |
Zurel said: LucianRoy said: I answer my own question. So Zurel is not new, yet he doesn't know what a sheep vote is? Interesting. Oh, wow. Am I that good as to make you think I am not a newbie? I am honoured, Sherlock. Ps to Grave: My time zone is different, you can't possibly expect me to be squabbling along with you at 2 in the morning, every single night. Keep that in mind for future reference😶. And as Xanic said, I have a life outside MAL. Come now, by three games? This is only my sixth. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| I messed up the first game. Ask Miki, it was his game. The second one was Asu's closed game, you were the latecomer. I had no freaking idea what was going on there. In both, I died pretty quickly, and this is the first game I play (rather) properly. So what if I don't know what sheeping is? I have heard people using train and bandwagon, but not sheeping. |
| Train is the general term for people all agreeing to lynch someone in succession. Bandwagoning is usually used to refer to a very quick succession of votes due to someone's lead logic. These votes can have reasoning of their own, but if they don't, then they are: Sheeping, which is a successional vote, with little to no reason, that appears to be made for the sheer purpose of sneaking a vote in. It's one of the main ways mafia are able to vote while gaining little to no suspicion for their reasoning. Hopefully this helped. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Miki, what make you think the mafias will answer your questions? You have your suspicion about who the mafias are, and jester is dead, so the mafias best defence is to sacrifice one of them. They will go for the weakest, as you must have realised. Do you think they are going to let you figure out which of them is the most important? |
| Man, I've been re-reading old games, specifically ones that I played in, and I'm realizing how much smarter I was back then. It is a very peculiar thing, indeed. I was bad in my early games, but I was smart too. Now that I actually know how to play, my views are different. I like Zurel, I don't want to see him flip, but we gotta get the juicy info. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Train is the general term for people all agreeing to lynch someone in succession. Bandwagoning is usually used to refer to a very quick succession of votes due to someone's lead logic. These votes can have reasoning of their own, but if they don't, then they are: Sheeping, which is a successional vote, with little to no reason, that appears to be made for the sheer purpose of sneaking a vote in. It's one of the main ways mafia are able to vote while gaining little to no suspicion for their reasoning. Hopefully this helped. So mine is called sheeping? Isn't it more like bandwagon? After all, if I remember correctly, I voted Neon first following Grave's suggestion and then she put in hers. Karrote's should be sheeping, he slipped in suddenly. (Why a sheep though? Why not, I dunno, a chameleon maybe?) Also, remember this henceforth, Lucian. I do not tell lies. I twist the truth. |
| Question. What is flip? |
Zurel said: Question. What is flip? Oh, you. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Zurel said: Question. What is flip? Oh, you. Is that an insult? Am I supposed to be offended? |
Zurel said: LucianRoy said: Train is the general term for people all agreeing to lynch someone in succession. Bandwagoning is usually used to refer to a very quick succession of votes due to someone's lead logic. These votes can have reasoning of their own, but if they don't, then they are: Sheeping, which is a successional vote, with little to no reason, that appears to be made for the sheer purpose of sneaking a vote in. It's one of the main ways mafia are able to vote while gaining little to no suspicion for their reasoning. Hopefully this helped. So mine is called sheeping? Isn't it more like bandwagon? After all, if I remember correctly, I voted Neon first following Grave's suggestion and then she put in hers. Karrote's should be sheeping, he slipped in suddenly. (Why a sheep though? Why not, I dunno, a chameleon maybe?) Also, remember this henceforth, Lucian. I do not tell lies. I twist the truth. Karote is a curious case indeed. I forget his reasoning, or if he even explained it later. He could of said it was an RVS vote, but it wouldn't be random at that point. We use the term "sheep" probably because sheep follow a shepherd willingly, to the point where they do not think for themselves, thus they do not give reasons. I don't lie when I play mafia. A true mafia can win without getting caught lying, so I play it even safer, and never lie. P.S. A flip is when we see your role after we lynch you. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Zurel said: LucianRoy said: Oh, you. Is that an insult? Am I supposed to be offended? No, no. I was just stating "Oh, you" as a reply to you not knowing what a flip was. Think of it as a gesture akin to "Aww, man". |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Karote, why did you hop the bandwagon at that exact time day one? Pretty strange. Maybe you just wanted a flip, maybe you wanted to ensure a townie died that day. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| My signature is dedicated to you, Lucian. |
Zurel said: Miki, what make you think the mafias will answer your questions? You have your suspicion about who the mafias are, and jester is dead, so the mafias best defence is to sacrifice one of them. They will go for the weakest, as you must have realised. Do you think they are going to let you figure out which of them is the most important? The mafias wont answer my question. Townies will not dodge questions. That's the point, eh? Mafias will be scared of further questions since many loopholes will be found in their answers unless they think ahead. |
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Zurel said: My signature is dedicated to you, Lucian. Aww, thanks! |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Mikiuza said: Zurel said: Miki, what make you think the mafias will answer your questions? You have your suspicion about who the mafias are, and jester is dead, so the mafias best defence is to sacrifice one of them. They will go for the weakest, as you must have realised. Do you think they are going to let you figure out which of them is the most important? The mafias wont answer my question. Townies will not dodge questions. That's the point, eh? Mafias will be scared of further questions since many loopholes will be found in their answers unless they think ahead. When I play a mafia role, I make it a point to be the one asking all the questions, that means no one ever asks me. It's a pretty good strategy if you think about it, so that's why I encourage you answer Pyro's question. The more questions you answer, the more you appear town. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| Got to go. Even if I were to die Lucian, we shall meet again in another game, another life. "I do no forget. I do not forgive. Expect me." Quote shamelessly borrowed from the Anonymous. |
Zurel said: Got to go. Even if I were to die Lucian, we shall meet again in another game, another life. "I do no forget. I do not forgive. Expect me." Quote shamelessly borrowed from the Anonymous. I feel bad about killing Zurel, he's too classy to die. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: Mikiuza said: The mafias wont answer my question. Townies will not dodge questions. That's the point, eh? Mafias will be scared of further questions since many loopholes will be found in their answers unless they think ahead. When I play a mafia role, I make it a point to be the one asking all the questions, that means no one ever asks me. It's a pretty good strategy if you think about it, so that's why I encourage you answer Pyro's question. The more questions you answer, the more you appear town. No need. Dodging questions is a scum tell. If Zurel is mafia and Pyro is mafia, that makes me auto clear. I'm not revealing until the next day phase. I'm not playing to "appear townie". I'm playing to uncover the mafia. |
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| Unvote Lucian, Vote Zurel |
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| The good thing is that if the mafia attempts to RB some other dude (LO, Doc, Vig) instead of X, we will have X's report which could potentially clear Karrote. Also based on his report, we can also check if Panda was the Paranoid or if he is the paranoid. |
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| I maintain my belief that zurel is suspicious. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
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