| The Santas need to stay quiet and give their results in a later phase in order to compare. By knowing that information then you can deduce what Santa is which, and who's scum. |
DatNeonPanda said: If there was only 1 investigator in the game (like in most other games), he/she should obviously try to stay hidden as long as possible, because he is the strongest villager role.Zymf said: That's exactly why I think the Sane Santas should reveal themself so that we can easier find out who is who. And get killed by the SK and Mafia. However, there are 5 investigators in this game and they don't even know if what they investigate is true or not. Therefore, we are actually not worth much, and we can therefore afford to reveal our roles. The only way for us to really use our powers, is to figure out which of the 5 Santas we are. Therefore, if all 5 santas reveal their roles, it's actually not us who is getting exposed and are "in danger" of getting killed, but instead Mrs. Christmas, Elf and Reindeers. Luckily the mafia and the 3rd party roles won't know who these are from the remaining 8 players :D |
DatNeonPanda said: I don't see any arguments why we shouldn't reveal our roles?The Santas need to stay quiet and give their results in a later phase in order to compare. By knowing that information then you can deduce what Santa is which, and who's scum. Well.. I quess, since the roles will be revealed upon death, we might as well wait till tomorrow. But then all remaining santas should reveal their roles! |
Zymf said: LucianRoy said: So?You could be insane santa. You could pretty much be any santa. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
| But if they're all investigating different people, it'd be difficult to compare them. |
Zymf said: DatNeonPanda said: I don't see any arguments why we shouldn't reveal our roles?The Santas need to stay quiet and give their results in a later phase in order to compare. By knowing that information then you can deduce what Santa is which, and who's scum. Well.. I quess, since the roles will be revealed upon death, we might as well wait till tomorrow. But then all remaining santas should reveal their roles! There's a difference between now and later. Now Santas have nothing to share, but later they may have more than what they have now. You also revealed yourself as Santa. I'll be keeping note of that, since it's in the scums' best interest to get the Santas out of their way. |
| Except evil santa, though there is the possibility that he's fake claiming. Side note: I can imagine how ridiculous this game would sound in real life with people just running around saying they're santa. Those poor confused kids. |
| The website is messing with me. I refresh the page and comments disappear. I refresh again and they appear, or only half of the disappeared ones appear. |
Smurphinator said: Yes, and therefore we should all either:But if they're all investigating different people, it'd be difficult to compare them. 1. Investigate the same person (to see the difference in our results) 2. Investigate eachother (to see which of them says "naughty") LucianRoy said: Zymf said: So? You could pretty much be any santa. I know that - That is why I put Sane/Insane/Paranoid/Naive/Lazy in parantheses -.- |
x_at_home said: Well.. yea :/Well, doesn't Mafia have a 3/5 Chance to kill (doc, watcher, vigilante) then which should be even higher since detecting the Jester shouldn't be that hard for them? Pro's for revealing Santa roles today: - We will get 5 more or less confirmed villager roles if only 5 people show themselves - If more than 5 reveals themselves, we will know that some of them are lying. - We can easier discuss who we should investigate tonight. Cons for revealing Santa roles today: - The mafia will get the choice whether they want to target the more or less worthless Santa's or if they want to take the 3/5 chance to kill doc, watcher or vigilante. - The Snow Miser will get the choice whether they want to target the more or less worthless Santa's or if they want to take the 3/8 chance to kill doc, watcher or vigilante. Pro's for revealing Santa roles tomorrow: - We will find out who is which Santa - We will have many more leads as to who we should lynch. |
| Someone should remind the elf not to kill anyone tonight unless we discover definite mafia. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
DatNeonPanda said: MAL is glitching..The website is messing with me. I refresh the page and comments disappear. I refresh again and they appear, or only half of the disappeared ones appear. DatNeonPanda said: I don't see any arguments why we shouldn't reveal our roles?The Santas need to stay quiet and give their results in a later phase in order to compare. By knowing that information then you can deduce what Santa is which, and who's scum. Well.. I quess, since the roles will be revealed upon death, we might as well wait till tomorrow. But then all remaining santas should reveal their roles![/quote] There's a difference between now and later. Now Santas have nothing to share, but later they may have more than what they have now. You also revealed yourself as Santa. I'll be keeping note of that, since it's in the scums' best interest to get the Santas out of their way.[/quote]Wrong. The scum would rather want to get rid of Doctor, Watcher and Vigilante... at least, I would if I were scum :/ |
Vote count: Smurphinator - 1 (xanic) x_at_home - 1 (Zymf) |
SorenDec 28, 2014 4:41 PM
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| Ah, classic MAL lag seems to be back. |
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| Post holiday rush will do that, I guess. |
Smurphinator said: Except evil santa, though there is the possibility that he's fake claiming. If he's fake claiming then his idea will work even less. |
| Well I have seen some strange tactics in these games before but wanting all the possible invest roles to come out at once is by far the strangest and the most insane by far I can see how it could be a postive but far too much risk and gives mafia and SK a kill list and would lead to our ruin. |
JackritoDec 28, 2014 5:32 PM
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| gratz for 5000 posts Jack i like this lag^^ |
~I am just one sadist who supports friends~  |
| It's santa a.k.a cop galore! Say, does the fool Rudolf win only when he's lynched by town, and not if he's killed by mafia or snow miser? The_Pyromaani said: Smurphinator said: I'm pretty sure evil Mrs. Christmas role-blocks whoever she sleeps with. But the joy... think about it. Just because she looks about 20s, doesn't mean she really is young. What if she's hundreds of years old? What are you? Bella? |
ZurelDec 28, 2014 7:12 PM
| I wonder who we should lynch today. Things are currently at a standstill. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
LucianRoy said: You! :PI wonder who we should lynch today. Things are currently at a standstill. |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
xanic said: LucianRoy said: You! :PI wonder who we should lynch today. Things are currently at a standstill. Enh, there are better options. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Soren333 said: Vote count: Smurphinator - 1 (xanic) x_at_home - 1 (Zymf) ^ This is what we've got so far. |
| Instead of going random think a little bit. How many people have posted thus far? How many people are in the roster? What are the chances that all of the people that have posted so far are Town? Who's post is the most suspicious, or rather, the most non-suspicious? |
Zurel said: It's santa a.k.a cop galore! Say, does the fool Rudolf win only when he's lynched by town, and not if he's killed by mafia or snow miser? Building off this, does the town automatically lose if Rudolf is lynched and/or does Rudolf still play in the game after being lynched? |
grave_robber said: Stickied thread. Ho Ho Ho! ^^ Hi everyone! Interesting roles Byon, insane cop and paranoid cop, woah! grave_robber said: I have a question: Role descriptions of non-sane santas imply that even after they die, we cannot tell which Santa died, is that true? role said: Insane Santa Sees themselves as Sane Santa and upon death Investigate - Find out if someone is naughty or nice at night. "nice" will be "naughty" This game's gonna be interesting. grave_robber said: Lynch: Smurphinator I wanna see you squirm a little :p grave_robber said: it seems to me like pyro's trying to get lynched. Are you Rudolph the fool? ^^ grave_robber said: Smurphinator said: You never told me you were such a sadist, Grave. :P Again, why me? Because I'm a sadist obviously XD No real reason, just a random vote, I thought I'd vote for a friend who wouldn't get mad about it. I usually vote Karrote or Jack, but I'm afraid others would do the same. grave_robber said: What's the rule on voting? Simple majority rule or 51% + locked list? Also what happens in case of a tie in votes and do we have to lynch on day 1? Too many unknown variables: unvote grave_robber said: The bad guys have better investigators than the town =/ I'm willing to bet that grave is scum. If you are grave then you better hope that I don't die during the night because it'll confirm it. |
| unvote: smurphinator vote:grave_robber |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
I forgot to vote. Lynch: grave_robber The vote is not subject to change. I'm going to sleep now, bye. |
| Sorry, maybe I'm stupid, but I'm not sure what the point you were trying to make about Grave was. |
Smurphinator said: Sorry, maybe I'm stupid, but I'm not sure what the point you were trying to make about Grave was. That what you said itself is the point. You don't know what's wrong with grave. You can't go scum-hunting on the first day because there are no leads. So, go reverse scum-hunting. Scums blend in, so go for the one who seems the most innocent, or seems to be trying to seem innocent. Catch my drift? Like I said before. Instead of going random think a little bit. How many people have posted thus far? How many people are in the roster? What are the chances that all of the people that have posted so far are Town? Who's post is the most suspicious, or rather, the most non-suspicious? |
| Essentially I'm analyzing the lack of information, and making a big deal out of nothing, since nothing is what we have to go by during this phase, and scums use the nothingness during this phase to get through. |
| It feels to me that Neon may be reading too much into something😯 |
Zurel said: It feels to me that Neon may be reading too much into something😯 It feels like that to me too, though I can understand why since it's day one. |
Zurel said: It feels to me that Neon may be reading too much into something😯 He gets it. |
Zurel said: It feels to me that Neon may be reading too much into something😯 Ya never know. I don't think the scum would attempt a bus-lynch in a game like this, so his vote's probably for good reasons. I'm almost tempted to join the wagon, but I want to hear Grave first. |
| "If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Smurphinator said: Zurel said: It feels to me that Neon may be reading too much into something😯 It feels like that to me too, though I can understand why since it's day one. Yes. |
| Also keep in mind when looking at the votes, the amount of people in the roster (13 players), the amount of people voting, and the likelihood of every voter for the person winning in votes being Town (there are 8 Town roles). |
Smurphinator said: Zurel said: It feels to me that Neon may be reading too much into something😯 It feels like that to me too, though I can understand why since it's day one. I suppose this is as good as people claiming doctor on the first day... And better than Zymf's suggestion for all cops to come forward. I mean, if all santas claimed roles, won't there be higher risk for Mrs Christmas, Elf, and Rudolf to be targeted by mafia? |
| I just woke up what's going on |
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LoveandHate91 said: I just woke up what's going on we're lynching grave_robber Join us |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| Why grave robber? is because they rob graves |
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LoveandHate91 said: Why grave robber? is because they rob graves yes |
| "I am the Bone of my Sword Steel is my Body and Fire is my Blood I have created over a Thousand Blades Unaware of Loss, Nor aware of Gain. Withstood Pain to create Weapons, Waiting for one’s Arrival I have no Regrets. This is the only Path My whole life was Unlimited Blade Works" |
| I do not condone the action of robbing graves [b]Vote lynch: Grave Robber |
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| Oh, no. But, but Grave is my friend. It doesn't feel right lynching her randomly... |
| Then who do you recomend we lynch |
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| I do not know, really. Since we don't have any lead at this point, voting one person in basically the same as another (except for the one being lynched of course). I just don't have the heart to vote a friend at this point. You can keep voting Grave, but I will withhold my vote until the last minute I think. |
| Well that's how first days all ways go with random lynches |
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