why the hell does everyone like lelouch so much he's a prick.

naens said:
Because he's the first on the Favorite page in MAL. Same reason why L, Luffy and Light are popular.

Animefreak17a said:
So.....you like him because his popular?!?!?

Animefreak17a said:
I just don't get it

1 - He murders he's sister and let's everyone believes she's a murderer and he does nothing to clear her name.
2 - He makes Shirley forget who he is and what he did to her father He is indirectly responsible for her death.
3 - He uses people like pawns both enemies and allies.
4 - He's responsible for killing millions of people and ruining there lives.
5 - He's inconsistent
6 - He has a loli sister complex
7 - He uses the knights for he's own uses and not for there reasons
8 - He is arrogant and two faced.
9 - He betrays he's other sister who loved him
10 - He doesn't come clean that everything was his fault.

I honestly have no idea why people likes this guy I honestly dont.

I just down right hate him

He does it all for him self and not for anyone else's needs

Animefreak17a said:
1 yeah but he lets everyone think she's a killer which she wasn't. I know it was an accident I know that 100% I know he didn't mean to do it.....but he wanted her to shoot him in order to get people on his side that's how desperate he was, to make his own sister look like the bad guy ........despicable I tell you..........And he does shit to clear her name...... I bet you any amonte of money if nunnally was framed like how euphy was he'd do everything in his power to clear her name.........again despicable.

2 I said it was indirectly his fault for keeping rolo, and he didn't want her to get in the way of his plan so like a coward he made her forget......how the hell making her forget it was him that killed her father the pains still there......And yes he did care for her but instead of saying .....I'm sorry and owning up to it and let her pass judgement on him he makes her forget.....again using his power on his friends and allies.........fucking coward.

3 but he does it not for the good of area 11 but for him self and he had it coming after the find out he's the one who was using them for he's petty petty petty petty revenge against his daddy.

4..............a few useless pieces?!?!?!........even if there innocent.........!?!?!?! You sound like a villain.

5 yeah but a arse hole human humans are pricks anyways

6 yep and he'd kill millions for her even if there innocent lives just for her.

7 yeah but they turned on him after they find out he was using him they thought he was doing it for them but wasn't and its awesome how they did it..............the knights turn on the prick who had thousands killed at the stadium hahaha

8 same as 5

9 no he didn't he wanted to use her as a hostage .......Cornelia li Britannia I mean.....he didn't care about her.

10 yeah he is killed and good riddance....he didn't own up to anything he just made him self the bad guy and again didn't come clean what he did as zero.

This is fact

Animefreak17a said:
1 it was still thanks to him

2 just to satisfy him self

3 yeah for to have people on he's side and nothing more

4 villain

5 I understand him clearly and again he does it for him self

6 doesn't make it right.....I bet she'd kill her self if she found out he destroyed millions of lives for her

7 bollocks they turned against him because he was using them and for what happened at the stadium........If he was controlling them they wouldn't of betrayed him........again bollocks so no lelouch had it coming............And they betrayed him to get Japan back too...................same as my last answer.

8 again

9 he didn't care about her again

10 but its a false hope and again good riddance.


What a fan boy you are.... I mean look at your avatar..........lelouch fan girl....there's nothing likeable about him.

Put your self in the shoes of the loved ones who have died thanks to lelouch ....which was millions of people

Euphys loved ones
Shirleys family and friends
The people who lost there lives thanks to leouch if they found out who was to blame would you let them kill lelouch........I'd say go for it.......again

Good riddance

bladeangel said:
Because Lelouch is basically what I wish Light Yagami had been like. It wasn't long before I realized Light was disillusioned and that he was never going to stop killing people to achieve his "perfect" world. Light was the ultimate deceptive selfish dickhead. Light wasn't even an anti-hero, he was just evil trash. I mean, if u still have doubt just look towards the end where he said he plans to kill the "lazy" people as well.

Lelouch on the other hand was not disillusioned in his goals, and although they were born out of selfish desires/revenge, he eventually grew a lot wiser and less self-oriented in season 2. Lelouch was also very human in the sense that he cared for plenty of people and struggled when his mistakes affected them (or killed them). He's a perfect anti-hero, having done questionable deeds in order to fullfil his own causes, but growing from them to help others.

laldonkaments said:
To create a peaceful world for Nunnally to live in was just a pretense for his revenge on Charles & Britannia for most of the series. Apparently he had a change of heart somewhere between ep.15-21 in R2. Then he tried to make the best out of the shit he has done until this point (which resulted in a quite foolish conclusion imo, but that's another matter).

Is that enough to redeem himself? Naaah, no way. He has used and destroyed so many lifes on his path. And the disturbing thing is not the fact THAT he did it, but the way HOW he did it: Forcing people to go against their principles, beliefs, love and loyalty in the most cruel way. Another thing that annoyed me throughout the series is his lack of honor: He challenges opponents multiple times (Suzaku, Cornelia, ...), only to set them up (Sayoko, Darlton, ...). I can't remember a 1on1 where he won fair & square without his Geass (except chess). It's like Charles said, he mainly consists of "cheap tricks" like "schemes, plots, surprise attacks".

In retroperspective he acted quite awesome and entertaining at times, but character-wise he's just an arrogant prick with an infinite amount of false pride and no shred of honor. He threw the whole world in turmoil without consulting his little sister even once in the process - which probably would've prevented that whole mess. And in the end he even couldn't grant her simple wish of living a peaceful life with her onii-san. Tragic? Yes. Hero? No.

Animefreak17a said:

1 and thank God he did pay for it........ otherwise I'd of gone ape shit......fucker had it coming

bladeangel said:


haha i guess you won't be glad to know that he didn't actually die. Its just like in episode 1 where C.C.took a bullet to the face...and she came back. If you backtrack the series and examine the rules of geass and how people with geass can become immortal, it's most likely that Lelouch became immortal himself towards the end of the anime. Hence why C.C. is addressing him in the last scene. plz feel free to do go ape shit now

Sparteh said:


And I was going easy on him and tried to hide this idea. You just hit him below the belt

Sparteh said:
I don't need to prove that you are wrong. You are doing that yourself but haven't realized it yet. With every line you just prove that you are to emotional about this (but I don't get it why). You are just trying to make arguments prove your opinion even if that means twisting them a little. When you wrote that you can just talk as well I will simply point out that you have been doing that since very beginning.

Well I admit that I failed to play with you a little, but I will still point that I have never said that he was still alive. I just mentioned that there was idea like that. If you look back you will clearly see that I said that Lelouch paid for what he did.
Also this childish way of insulting calling us fan boys is just pathetic. When I read it I feel like in grade school over again.

No as far as Lelouch goes unlike you I am not gonna attack your opinion anymore. Now it is obvious that no matter what I will write it will be pointless.

IF you actually care this is what I think and why I like Lelouch:

He is complex character who had many bad experiences during his life. He made tons of mistakes, experienced a lot of pain, but still continued to move forward no matter what happens. Unlike many idiotic main characters he is smart and continues to achieve what he wants no matter what have to do. Even if that means lying, deceiving and sacrificing thousands and even millions of people. Tricking them with simply lies or with careful schemes, using them as chess pieces. Just to achieve his goal. That's what I actually like about him. It is shown that unlike most characters in anime or even most people in real world that guy understood reality of this world.

You said that we could be friends if not this. That's not true. According to most people I know I am cruel, realistic, emotionless, calculative and lack empathy. Compared to me most people look like crybabies and I dislike emotional people like you.

bladeangel said:
If I remember correctly, when asked, the creator did say that Lelouch had died, but that it was open to interpretation as to whether or not he became an immortal being like C.C. He can't just give us the answer, the question makes the ending that much more epic.

and yea WTF OP, you make a forum topic about this and all you seem to say is "IDC about other ppl's opinions, blah blah must be fanboys" if they contradict your own. Hell, I think you contradict yourself the most! You say you hate Lelouch for the bad things he's done and how he's selfish and yet you have FUCKING LIGHT YAGAMI listed as your favorite character... why??

Animefreak17a said:


Because I agree with his ideals

http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DI7NWtNwzgdg&sa=U&ei=rx_tU8jmIuve7Abf9IDYCw&ved=0CB8QtwIwAg&sig2=RplNQdbbc7p5cgdqn2FAmg&usg=AFQjCNGrpTuDP0RrT5uLhsEyDhhnPfX4Tg

bladeangel said:


I didn't disagree with his ideals and what he was doing at first, but he went overboard with it and his character was made so despicable that it's impossible that he was doing this for the sake of the world.

Did you pay attention to the part towards the end where he says he's still not happy with the world and plans to go after the lazy people as well? I don't think he was ever going to be satisfied and stop killing people, i think he was doing all of it for himself (kinda like lelouch). Last I checked, Light also killed tons of innocent people (not just bad guys) and he showed 0 resentment throughout.

Animefreak17a said:


Like?.......last I saw it was the people who was.trying to find him and that's it

Animefreak17a said:

Then you are a villain and as we all know villains are always wrong.

Il give you that he is a complex character, that he has had a hard life, and other shit like that......but that doesn't mean he's right

What about other people who don't like him what do you say to them

bladeangel said:
Fair enough, although Lelouch wasn't the only one in the anime to blame for the war casualties (Britania, Japanese terrorists). Lelouch merely manipulated both sides to carve his way towards revenge. The britanians were already killing millions before he even got his Geass power, but yeah Lelouch was linked to more deaths than Light, but you gota take into account the war, giant robots, and nuclear bombs.

and Light wasn't doing the whole killing thing only to better the world, he saw himself as the chosen one and wanted to become the god of his new world. Pretty selfish if you ask me.

I guess I was never really against the stuff he was doing as far as killing criminals went, but i rather hated him as a person which is why I didn't trust where his actions were heading. I think the world would have eventually gone to shit if he had lived.

Sparteh said:


And do you understand why villains are portrayed as wrong? In reality there is no right and wrong. There are only choices and consequences. For some they might be helpful and are good, for others they are harmful aka bad. When 2 forces collide the one that wins becomes right and the one that loses becomes wrong. In other words those who win becomes heroes that are right and those who loses becomes villains that are wrong.

That is why you can only declare that he was wrong from your perspective.

Animefreak17a said:


What about isis in Iraq they have buried innocent people alive and killed hundreds of people just because they didn't follow the sunni way of islam........even going as far as killing there fellow Muslims who are of a diffrent sect just because they aren't from the sunni sect.......

If they won would you consider them hero's or maniacs that got the upper hand
What about Hitler he killed millions of people BECAUSE he believed Germans was the master race and killed those who he believed wasn't German was impure........is that a hero or a psychopath.

Well......

Sparteh said:


From their perspective - yes they are. But lets take Hitler as example. He ordered to do many cruel things like that, but for some reason over 80% of time he is the only one blamed for it. What about those who fought against him? Are they heroes? Of course not. Soviets are did equally big crimes, but since they were on winners side no one judged them. Same goes to all countries who participated in the war. If we go back in time same thing can be applied to all relegious groups. Millions of people were tortured to death but since it was majority now only historians actually care about that.

You see wars happen when all sides believe that they are fighting for just cause, when from their perspective they are right.

Animefreak17a said:


Well its right if we fight to stop dictators from Turning us in to slaves......they attacked us so we defend our selfs

Sparteh said:


Maybe one day like me you will understand that humans have many things but real freedom is not one of them. Try looking at the world and you will see that we are already slaves.

qemsxd said:
Because he's evil? He's anti-hero after all.

He's entertaining to watch. Lelouch and all other fictional characters are just there to entertain us and he did. That's reason enough to like him. Unless you like Lelouch act like a honor student and dies without involving himself in politics and such. That'll be boring.

LeluchRulesWorld said:
Am i the only one who gets this show? please check this out, i joined this website just to make this response lol:

He couldnt take the heat off of Euphy by telling everyone about his power,


a. no one would believe him and
b. the powers are secret for reasons that were understood in the thought chamber.

One thing that no one gets about this anime is the deep spiritual truths... Suzaku and Lelouch had a revelation in the thought chamber, they seen that it was the only way, even righteous Suzaku could see that there was no denying this was the way to world peace. They saw the what future would be like had they gone about it another way and it simply wouldnt have worked. They had such virtue, honor and friendship together in the thought tank that they were able to transcend all of their demons there, becoming enlightened in a way and worked from that day forward without any regard for personal matters, they worked like gods...

Being a tyrant and taking over the entire world was the best way to make world peace also because he knew that peaceful people, the princesses and other rulers of japan, would succeed him when "Zero" killed him... The former king, Lelouch's father, was just as much of a complete tyrant as Lelouch PRETENDED to be but he hid it so that the people wouldnt fully be able to grasp the implications of it... Lelouch Didnt... He didnt hide it on purpose... he wanted to SHOW all the brainwashed citizens that they were in fact under world domination by giving them a perfect divine example of what they have adhered too... no more would they be able to be fooled. The perfect example was shown to them and noted in the history books of an unhealthy society, of all the gory details of how the elite control everything... think about that... no one can rule without coaperation... he disarmed that resourse because of his amazing strategizing, that kept going btw ... there is a method to the maddness of-course, or he wouldnt be Lelouch :)

Him being the bad guy took all of the heat off of the black nights as well, everyone united against him. He took all the sins of the world on his shoulders and didn't want a lick of credit, his whole intention was good from day one, he was the messiah, and he didn't even try, He didn't proclaim himself the god of the world, he was perfect from eposode one, he walked that walk... no ego.... he did what had to be done cause no one else would. This show is not far off from truth of real life too, it may sound harsh and unreal but in reality we are actually under elitist rule, who are the CEO's and billionare bankers who created money and actually run our nations, nations are their coverup, we do as the TV and other media tells us, we think we have choices but were all brainwashed to some extent by the 1% who actually own everything......I love the fact that the animator is into "Anonymous" with the masks and what not, they are the real life group of "zero's" (wanabes) that actually exist in our world, (youtube them, you will laugh) ... again, super brilliant... if their were someone with the mind and ego of lelouch then things would be peaceful on earth, (were fighting wars for the elitests, we are no different THINKING we are doing the right thing when we are not because we are brainwashed), everyone is obsessed with status quo and being known and loved... not lelouch, he doesnt give a rats ass... awesome! what a hero and an inspiration ... if we only knew...I have a bleeding heart just like leluch, i have cared with that sort of conviction so im plum obsessed with his archetype, and have thought that i would even sacrifice myself and much more for world peace... since i was little it was painfully obvious to me that we are all brainwashed... So to me this is the greatest anime of all time, and the most epic character of al time...

I am so wanting to find more anime like this, Evangelion, and Shinseki yori...PLEASE

Animefreak17a said:
I don't care he is still a prick that deserves death........a long with kallan and roll

He does all those things for him self not for area 11 but for

Revenge
For nunnally
Looking for the reasons why he's mother was killed

And that's it all for he's miserable self.

Fuck lelouch

badwolf45f said:
damn dude, its okay if you dont like him but dont take it so seriously

natsucule said:
You know, although I disagree with you, I like the fact you included why you don't like him rather than just hate.

When you're bored with the cliche shounen protag, Lelouch brings a fresh air that just blows you away.

badwolf45f said:
damn dude, its okay if you dont like him but dont take it so seriously