| Since we finally witness the end of a major villain, I think it's time to disuss his motives, story arc, and dynamics. Was he your favorite villain, least favorite, or somewhere in-between? Please state why as well :) |
| I'm rather indifferent about his character as a whole. His motives for being an antagonist were understandable, but I feel Kishimoto somehow botched it up with the execution of these latest couple of twists (introducing new villains, uncovering past history etc...) to the extent that he has somehow lost most of his complexity and depth while being overshadowed by the likes of Madara and Kaguya. Plus I don't like the fact that he appears to still have the mindset of a child with the way he wants everyone to end up in his 'pure happiness no jutsu' just because of a lost loved one. Both Madara and Kaguya have had more convoluted and conceivable reasons for being the way they are. I must admit though, his death and the last couple of words he had to say to Naruto really reintroduced the dynamic nature his character had before the big reveal of him being Obito, so I'm quite content with his end at least. Kishimoto wrapped Obito's characterization up in an excellent manner, if nothing else. Using the fact that he, much like Nagato, is a direct parallel to Naruto's character in many aspects was very smart and made his reasons for doing everything seem all the more justified. |
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| He was not my favorite villain, I would say somewhere in between. However I loved his character; when he wore the mask, there was this whole mystery about him. His abilities were great too. After his revelation, I liked Obito even more. I believe he is one of Naruto's most developed characters. His motives were completely justified, but he was manipulated due to his purity. I sympathized with him throughout the whole series and I was really sad that he died believing he was a failure, even though he really made some wrong decisions. |
| I used to like Tobi as an ideal, but after I found out that he did everything because of Rin, my opinion changed a little bit. I mean: the loss f a loved person is always hard, but Tobi/Obito killed also his own family. The relations doesn't really fit together. |
| pure hatred.. seriously he deserve better death then this.. LOL |
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| Tobi=cool Obito=bad villain |
Hisoka_Judal said: Obito=bad villain He is not a villain tho. |
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| There is no need to hide it though, i hate him. This is the kind of evil that so childish, Even most of Digimon or Pokemon antagonist still better than him. To make it simple, lost your childhood crush = destroy the world. That's so ridiculous. |
Flashoftheback said: There is no need to hide it though, i hate him. This is the kind of evil that so childish, Even most of Digimon or Pokemon antagonist still better than him. To make it simple, lost your childhood crush = destroy the world. That's so ridiculous. But that's literally not what happened, you are forgetting important details in between. And it's love not crush, and twisted peace and not destruction of the world. |
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tsudecimo said: Flashoftheback said: There is no need to hide it though, i hate him. This is the kind of evil that so childish, Even most of Digimon or Pokemon antagonist still better than him. To make it simple, lost your childhood crush = destroy the world. That's so ridiculous. But that's literally not what happened, you are forgetting important details in between. And it's love not crush, and twisted peace and not destruction of the world. That just play on words, though. Literally means he should just can Mugen Tsukuyomi himself and live in his own fanfiction rather than forced everyone into it too, thus it's world destruction. |
| Ehh, they are not play on words if they mean complete different things. There is difference between the world getting destroyed, and between everyone being inside the IT. And love and crush and not the same thing. You just proved yourself wrong without my help. If his ambitions and motivation were only Rin, he would have casted the genjutsu on himself alone. |
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| Nah, it means destroying the world if all things becomes non-existence inside genjutsu like nothing else matters anymore. You just considering destroying the world as something like "earth vanished" or something. While the world here actually means everything in it. It's a crush no matter how i see it. -- |
| It doesn't matter what you see it. It's was depicted as love, and it meant as such for Obito. You wouldn't call your crush ''the only light in my life''. ffs |
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| honestly naruto villians drive me crazy. they are nothing but a bunch of cowards. wah life is too hard...i dont wanna accept this reality anymore...lets escape into an eternal dream world where everything is perfect. seams like this whole thing could of been avoided if madara was buddhist. Kaguya is the only villain i actually like, despite the fact that she pretty much came from nowhere. oh back to tobi though...i kinda feel sorry for him but he is still a coward. granted he did the right thing in the end so that gets him some bonus points. also i did like tobi before he became the main villain. when he was calling deidara senpai. he cracked me up, and back then i never though for a second that he would become one of the main villains. *edit* oh i did like orochimaru though so i cant say i dislike all naruto villians. just nagato, obito, and madara. |
astrozombie84Aug 1, 2014 1:11 AM
Flashoftheback said: made my dayThere is no need to hide it though, i hate him. This is the kind of evil that so childish, Even most of Digimon or Pokemon antagonist still better than him. To make it simple, lost your childhood crush = destroy the world. That's so ridiculous. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| I don't get when people say his actions where justified. His actions are the most disproportionate, jarringly-phased I've ever seen. Let's forget for a second the fact that he did it for a crush, he went from this really nice kid to evil in...seconds. That doesn't show contrast with how Naruto deals with stuff... It just makes it less coherent. Obito went this path while naruto didnt only because the plot said so. The argument that he's delusional gets destroyed by his being Talk no Jutsu'd. It sucks to see that his villainy was catalysed by a crush and his rise was carslysed by... Neji's shocl valued death. |
| I am kinda indifferent to Obito. Liked him when he was Tobi. After learning his motivations he seemed really childish to me and it made zero sense to me for him to chabge his mind because I always thought he was delusional but we are talking about Naruto here, lately nothing makes much sense so why not, right? |
| "Laugh, and the world laughs with you; Weep, and you weep alone". Ella Wheeler Wilcox |
TonyTonyStark said: I don't get when people say his actions where justified. His actions are the most disproportionate, jarringly-phased I've ever seen. Let's forget for a second the fact that he did it for a crush, he went from this really nice kid to evil in...seconds. That doesn't show contrast with how Naruto deals with stuff... It just makes it less coherent. Obito went this path while naruto didnt only because the plot said so. The argument that he's delusional gets destroyed by his being Talk no Jutsu'd. It sucks to see that his villainy was catalysed by a crush and his rise was carslysed by... Neji's shocl valued death. This. It was war and they were soldiers, he himself almost died yet he couldn't accept the death of his crush. He betrayed his family/clan, his village, caused the death of his sense and his wifei and wanted to put the world in a dream lala-land because of Rin. I hate his character and until this day I don't understand how anybody can like him. |
| ''We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?'' - Uchiha Itachi |
| This is before he was Obito right? That's why you didn't call this thread "Rate the villian: Obito". In that case, I love him!!! His mysterious powers are far more interesting than what we have now. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| Before the mask was removed, he was great. Interesting, mysterious, you name it. After his mask was removed, we got main villain who started a war because his childhood crush died, then went 180 on himself because Naruto used Talk no Jutsu. Right now, I really hate him. |
| Ad Astra Per Aspera |
| Tobi = 4/5 Obito = -5/5 |
| Tobi was cool but obito is just no. |
Man_of_Sin said: Tobi = 4/5 Obito = -5/5 |
| A piece of my brain just shot out of my weiner!- Onodera Punpun |
| What i am still wondering about is : how can the emo guy like Obito act all funny like Tobi??? Totally out of character, isn't??? |
kramXD said: Actually, Madara was the one that caused all this, he manipulated Obito remember?tobi = 5/5 obito = 5/5 and he's story is behind the whole plot of the series i mean thats gotta be deserving right |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
Flashoftheback said: There is no need to hide it though, i hate him. This is the kind of evil that so childish, Even most of Digimon or Pokemon antagonist still better than him. To make it simple, lost your childhood crush = destroy the world. That's so ridiculous. Didn't read did you? This is TOBI, before he was OBITO. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
Flashoftheback said: He was imitating spiral zetsu.What i am still wondering about is : how can the emo guy like Obito act all funny like Tobi??? Totally out of character, isn't??? |
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Confucius said: Flashoftheback said: There is no need to hide it though, i hate him. This is the kind of evil that so childish, Even most of Digimon or Pokemon antagonist still better than him. To make it simple, lost your childhood crush = destroy the world. That's so ridiculous. Didn't read did you? This is TOBI, before he was OBITO. And THAT'S i am confused with. The fact is, "Obito is an EMO guy who just complained about everything in this world and his glum face" is his real face. Tobi = Obito How can Obito pull out that "Tobi's" cheerful act like he is the most happy person or at least a "Joker" class(which is not)??? Totally out of character. Imagine "emo" Sasuke wearing Tobi mask and act like the cheerful Tobi. Not gonna work |
| Tobi is just Obito using the persona of Madara and Zetsu... |
| I obviously meant obito, I posted this after he died... LOL died. I wrote Tobi since not everyone is caught up and it could be a favor spoiler. |
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