| As long as you have casuals, you have money. |
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| The major problem with the WiiU is the lack of games. With a small amount of 1st party titles and poor support from 3rd party developers, the console just flat out has a poor catalog of games to choose from. I personally bought a WiiU for Mario Kart 8 and I do not regret my decision, but this one of the immediate problems I noticed. I currently own 4 games for my WiiU: Mario Kart 8, Super Mario 3D World, WindWaker HD and New Super Mario/Luigi Bros U. Outside of those games, I honestly can't think of any other 1st party titles I even care to mention. Now I will mention that there are upcoming titles that will help bolster this small roster of 1st party titles(New Zelda, Hyrule Warriors, Xenoblade Chronicles X, New Smash bros, Bayonetta 2) that the WiiU has, but the lack of 3rd party support is very concerning still. The fact that I own a gaming PC and a WiiU means that I am STILL unable to play Destiny, which is coming out for every other console on the market other than the WiiU. Also, I can't think of a single 3rd party WiiU exclusive even worth mentioning. All that being said, the WiiU is not a "bad" console. But the lack of software is highly concerning. |
| Nintendo doesn't earn sales with hardware. They earn sales with games that are actually fun to play. Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Legend of Zelda, Pokémon, among others. Those games are legendary masterpieces that will bring fun and happiness to the whole family. Those games do not include stupid DLCs that just want to grab money. Those games are not some random unfinished crap. Those games don't have issues with FPS or bugs/glitches. Those games are professional masterpiece made with just one objective: Bring fun. Nintendo is a legend. The best game developer company around. No company will ever be able to compete with Nintendo in the handheld market. The Nintendo DS stomps on the PS Vita and spits on it. The Wii U may have way worse hardware than the Playstation 4 and Xbox One, but seriously, Mario Kart 8 and the new Smash Bros for Wii U together will be more fun than ALL the games that the PS4 and the XBONE will ever have.  /thread |
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| Nintendo has made and continues to make the most perfect games ever, doesn't mean I'll buy a Wii U until it's cheaper than peanuts. |
| lupadim, what exactly is that a chart of? I wanted to say most popular Nintendo characters, but there's no way Chatot or F.L.U.D.D. are in the top 50. |
| The Genesis did what Nintendon't, also known as blast processing. Yet the SNES still was a fierce rival to the Genesis. The good ol' days. |
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FGAU1912 said: JCAPER said: What is wrong? calling the handheld market small The handheld market is dwindling in Japan and West alike due to the predatory platform that are smartphones. The mobile market is filled with money pits, consumers who don't think things through, and corporate tyranny, think of the mobile market as the subprime investments of gaming. |
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FGAU1912 said: Hoppy said: The handheld market is dwindling in Japan and West alike due to the predatory platform that are smartphones. The mobile market is filled with money pits, consumers who don't think things through, and corporate tyranny. 3ds sales say different and ds sales is the biggest selling system in history Yes, the 3DS is selling well but mobile is cutting into a huge share of the handheld market due to most people having them, mobile being more acceptable (which I call bullshit, that's just classic corporate and mainstream brainwashing) and consumers not thinking things through (they don't realize that the mobile market especially in Japan is filled with obvious money pits only there to take more and more money out of your wallet for intangible items). |
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FGAU1912 said: Hoppy said: Yes, the 3DS is selling well but mobile is cutting into a huge share of the handheld market due to most people having them, mobile being more acceptable (which I call bullshit, that's just classic corporate and mainstream brainwashing) and consumers not thinking things through (they don't realize that the mobile market especially in Japan is filled with obvious money pits only there to take more and more money out of your wallet for intangible items). have ever played one of then so called money pits Yep, anything with a gaccha system is almost always a money pit. To be fair some mobile titles in the West have just a small one time fee that's optional for extra cards, items, and such (usually the indie fare) and the West also has full games on mobile. |
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| Wii u sucks dick because they have 0 games and don't give a shit about America. |
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Rivayne said: Wii u sucks dick because they have 0 games and don't give a shit about America. You haven't seen E3 haven't you, the WiiU is getting games for 2015, if you are talking about third party then yes, it has no true 3rd party support. |
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KAMIN_A said: Consoles are all weak compared to a gaming pc #PCMASTERRACE I'm ashamed that the PC Master Retards are on the same preferred platform as me. None on the consoles care for the power anyways. You buy an XBox One. Your games will work on the XBox One. Your games will be developed for the XBox One. You will buy games for the XBox one assuming there are XBox One sales already. Same for PS4 and WiiU. Nobody cares how powerful is the WiiU. Its the game library that needs to be expanded, that's what. |
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Hoppy said: No I haven't seen this year's E3 because they always end up being cringey as hell. First off It has almost 0 indie titles, second on release it only had like a few triple A titles, so the people who bought one in the beginning of 2013 have to wait 2 years to get a title they wanted. Not hating on any console I just see that as them not giving a shit about America.Rivayne said: Wii u sucks dick because they have 0 games and don't give a shit about America. You haven't seen E3 haven't you, the WiiU is getting games for 2015, if you are talking about third party then yes, it has no true 3rd party support. |
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Tsun_Pooka said: But without pc master race who will tell everyone consoles suck?KAMIN_A said: Consoles are all weak compared to a gaming pc #PCMASTERRACE I'm ashamed that the PC Master Retards are on the same preferred platform as me. None on the consoles care for the power anyways. You buy an XBox One. Your games will work on the XBox One. Your games will be developed for the XBox One. You will buy games for the XBox one assuming there are XBox One sales already. Same for PS4 and WiiU. Nobody cares how powerful is the WiiU. Its the game library that needs to be expanded, that's what. |
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| The Gamecube was the shit. Best nintendo console I owned with a lot of memorable games including one of the best games ever made. The remake to resident evil 1, scared the shit outta me. But im not a fan of nintendo, they only ever release the same few games every new console. We get a new zelda, a new smash bros and a fuck ton of rehashed mario titles and 1 or 2 edgy grown up 3rd party titles and thats it. I grew tired of the formula some time ago. Im not going to buy a new system knowing all im going to get is an updated version of the same three titles for the past 10 years. Now if they started bringing out some other classic titles back from the dead on wii U I would be tempted. Give Dino crisis 1 the same type of remake as resident evil 1 and i'll throw money at them. |
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Rivayne said: Tsun_Pooka said: But without pc master race who will tell everyone consoles suck?I'm ashamed that the PC Master Retards are on the same preferred platform as me. None on the consoles care for the power anyways. You buy an XBox One. Your games will work on the XBox One. Your games will be developed for the XBox One. You will buy games for the XBox one assuming there are XBox One sales already. Same for PS4 and WiiU. Nobody cares how powerful is the WiiU. Its the game library that needs to be expanded, that's what. Phone and handheld gamers. |
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FGAU1912 said: Hoppy said: Yep, anything with a gaccha system is almost always a money pit. To be fair some mobile titles in the West have just a small one time fee that's optional for extra cards, items, and such (usually the indie fare) and the West also has full games on mobile. the tales moblie gaes have no cash shop to my knowing and some of them are full 40- 60 hours RPGS that show you that Japanese Moublie games are ahead of the west look a the quilty of the deus ex game on Mobile Yes, the Tales mobile games don't have a cash shop but it's also a full game, there's others like FM 2089 I-II, Assault Gunners, and Damascus Gear Tokyo Shisen which were mobile and full games, but the vast majority of mobile games are F2P money pits. Also notice a pattern with some mobile games, the ones that have limited or no microtransactions are getting ported to handhelds. |
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FGAU1912 said: Hoppy said: Yes, the Tales mobile games don't have a cash shop but it's also a full game, there's others like FM 2089 I-II, Assault Gunners, and Damascus Gear Tokyo Shisen which were mobile and full games, but the vast majority of mobile games are F2P money pits. Also notice a pattern with some mobile games, the ones that have limited or no microtransactions are getting ported to handhelds. abd there very good games at that i hope they get ported soon too Especially on Vita, while the Vita does have a nice game library in Japan, I'm afraid that F2P may overtake the download online side of the library soon although Judas Code seems interesting, well at least the single player is interesting, the multiplayer not so much so there's a few decent ones just not too many. |
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| Nintendo does have good systems, but they bank to heavily on non-gamers and casuals. I think one of the main reasons why the Wii U is selling poorly is due to Nintendo's poor marketing. Heck half of the people out there thought the Wii U was merely an expansion of the Wii, and not it's successor. That and the fact that although they are getting more into online gaming, they still do things that hinders a full service community (such as not being able to voice chat in game with non-friends, etc). They still have their mind set back in the 1980's, where the whole family sat together on the cough and played. The Wii succeeded because mobile gaming wasn't a thing at the time. Now that it is? Casuals have moved away from it in favor of them. And lastly, too much gimmicky hardware. Don't get me wrong I love innovation, but it really should be "optional." Since it's not only forced on the gamer's, but developers as well, as they often times feel like they have to change their games around in order to adapt to Nintendo's new software. It's one of the reasons why developers are ignoring the Wii U game pad, and I for one am happy about that. My opinion on the matter anyway. :) |
JCAPER said: What?@ lupadim That's really subjective. For example, I would never buy a WiiU over PS4. And the reason PS Vita failed miserably is simply because it has too much power. Because handheld market is very small compared with the consoles, handheld devs prefer to make low-cost games for that area. And here's the problem: because Vita has too much hardware, games that would fully explore the PSV capabilities are too expensive to make. And because it didn't sold that well outside of Japan, it's just not worth the risk, unlike Nintendo DS since it's more cheaper and has larger market. This video explains better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REaUzHef9h4 So basically "PS Vita sucked because it was too awesome"? ROFL, look at the arguments of those PS Vita fans. Seriously. Nintendo has one of the best fanbases around, so that is another plus for Nintendo. Developers are NOT forced to create games that push the console to the limit. Look at Nintendo DS, most of its games do not push ti to the limit and still make huge success (such as visual novels like Phoenix Wright/999 and puzzles like Picross) |
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| The problem with the Vita is basically 1. Marketing, Japan got promotions off the scale for the Vita including a whole conference dedicated to the Vita. The West got no such marketing, E3 doesn't even get good Vita exposure, but TGS will, especially this year with Phantasy Star Nova coming in November. 2. Deals, in Japan, PS Plus gives you some of the sweetest deals I've seen in a while for the Vita such as discounts on games I want to play (not some no name indie title no one has even heard of), and good freebies, you get beyond your $55 worth (screw you Abe and your 8% consumption tax). The West is drier than the Sahara on the Vita scene, no deals on anything most people want, and few good PS Plus freebies, PS plus in the US should be $15 because it sure isn't worth $50. 3. Games, while the Vita is for a niche audience in both West and East, the West barely gets any games outside indies and some games that were Vita/PS3 in Japan don't get localized on Vita. Japan gets lots of great games for the Vita, even though almost all of them are for some sort of niche audience whither it be for casuals or the Otaku, but the Vita just seemed like it's made for (and definitely marketed) toward niche audiences. |
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| Nintendo is just experiencing an extreme low point after essentially owning the industry in the 80's and 90's. While they brought some of these problems upon themselves, it's still kind of sad seeing the Big N in this shape. The Wii's success was sort of a curse, they had a huge success with a gimmicky system and grew content. Now they're suffering for it. Hopefully the upcoming Smash, Mario Kart 8, and Zelda will restore confidence in the Wii U. |
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