evangelion overrated??!!

Thund3r1 said:
it didn't have a clear message.

JabonHR said:

I personally thought the show's messages were spelled out just fine. Essentially, the series asks the question "Is life worth living?" and provides the answer "It's up to you," considering how

ezaya said:
I think they really created Evangelion for those plot holes. I mean just like first impact which was never really explained in the series. Every person is free to make a theory about this one.

Kaimon said:
It's an OK show

Most of the fanbase is hilariously elitist, though, especially on this site.

Ezekiel said:
I wouldn't call it over rated. I just don't like it. It's too depressing and unless you look past its exterior, a little generic.

Kaimon said:
It's an OK show

Most of the fanbase is hilariously elitist, though, especially on this site.

Hydra0411 said:
Even after 20 years nothing tops it in it's themes. Therefore, not overrated. Hell, considering trash like Erased is so high up on the list, it is underrated

bigmustache93 said:
actually the show seems pretentious when you think about it, it could have explored its themes without all this religious symbolism and philosophical references that make it just more confusing .

Monad said:
As i said before Evangelion is not about the big mecha fights or even it's philosophical questions and symbolisms. Those are just there to help. It's really about the psychological aspect. Is about making you feel strange feelings, to depress you, confuse you and generally make you a little crazy.

Now if you just couldn't really get in to it's world and you were watching with a more carefree attitude, just sitting there and thinking "O my God that Sinji is such a pussy" "That Asuka bitch never shut ups" "O look Rei naked" and staff like that, and you think that those fights with Angels and staff is what it is about, then Evangelion will seem like the biggest piece of crab you ever saw.

It's a love or hate anime. If you feel it, you will say it's a masterpiece. If you don't, you will probably say it's shit.
But in general there is a reason many people love it. The overrated line could go for every anime that has fans anyway. You can't expect something to be loved by everyone.

nightcrawlercyp said:
well it is just about mecha fights. The directors admitted to this. Everything else is random and makes no real sense.

Monad said:


Yeah so they were going out of there way trying to show all those crazy depressing feelings Shinji felt and spending most of the show on them just because they didn't know how to put more mecha fights? Haven't they seen a Gundam anime before?
Yeah sorry i ain't buying it.
Maybe you confused them with the directors of the new movies.

nightcrawlercyp said:
there are many directors that try to look deep. It is clear Anno had no idea on christian symbolism and did not do his research. You can believe what you want the truth is the story and the symbolism is just random. You can accept it or not. It is up to you. I am not trying to convince you.

Monad said:


Obviously you have reading comprehension problems and interpretation problems since you see psychological elements the same as symbolism elements.
See my original post you quoted again in this post, i made it a little more clear for your eyes.

puzzlemaster said:
this anime didn't make any sense what so every! i watched it pretty late, just finished it. i have seen memes on the internet about shinji not wanting to pilot the eva and his father forcing him, but after watching the whole thing i didn't find any reason for that to have been a famous thing... in the entire series he didn't want to pilot it, but he still chose to do it by himself the entire time, 2 times he said "i won't pilot it again" then in the same episode he is back in the robot as soon as a angel shows up, just where his he being forced? and how about explaining at least a few things about the series? why only kids can pilot and what really happend with shinji's mother and several other stuff that they just teased us with but didn't explain. and the most important thing, what the heck was that ending? this is an anime about the world being threatend by super strong aliens and it ending was just shinji going to a therapist... and in the very end everyone surrounded him and appluded him and congratulated him, it looked like a freaking alcoholic meeting (whatever the name for those are). and the ending of the angel, what the heck happend to that? an angel suddenly took human for and spoke human language without any prior signs to that happening except for the angels trying to enter their minds a bit. and shinji just killed that "final angel" and then it all ended, why? what reason were there for kaworu to be the last angel to attack earth? the story is a total mess and the fights aren't up to much and the character are not anything special either, just why is this anime so famous?

JanusVonMaria said:


Don't worry if you didn't understood anything, the first time I watched this show I was like "Ah? Erm Yeah, I got it ehehe..."

There are many forums that try to explain Evangelion so if you are curious look at them.
But be prepared because this show is like a drug trip, seriously. If you like psychological stuffs then you will like it and don't believe the guys who try to explain the religious symbolism, those were just put there to make the show look cool.

A summary of my own interpretation will be:

There are giant beings that are related to the beginning and end of the world. The world is near the end.
An organization found a few of those giant beings and put them some metallic harness to seal their movements.
To control those monsters they put a mother to act as a power source and their kid to control. Since a mother is the beginning of life they are the best power source and their instinct to love and protect their child make their children able to pilot them.
A pilot enter their deep psyche when they are inside the Eva since they are inside their mother wombs.
Killing all the angels is not the way to save the world, the angels' jobs was to end and start the world anew. When Shinji killed that last angel he made a new world but since his mind is messed up the conclusion was like that.
I don't remember the rest and I am not going to watch Evangelion again.

puzzlemaster said:


the mother child stuff made sense. and maybe the rest did to, but what i meant by my comment was that the anime sucks, since it can't explain its own story and need fans to write forums to explain it. its like they tried to make a super deep and complicated story and then get stressed and forgot to properly explain half the story.
they should have showed some more of the mother and explained what the heck the angels were and why they suddenly stopped coming just because shinji squashed some guy who were asking him to kill him. seriously the final fight werent even a fight. i get they tried to make this a psychological more than your typical action fighting stories but a psychological story need good explaination otherwise it will leave the viewers confused.
the story were so badly told that i had no motivation what so ever to go and do any research about the anime and without doing that you don't understand anything here.

JanusVonMaria said:


That's not entirely true, series like Utena, Penguinodrum and that Yuri bears anime don't explain anything directly like Evangelion.
The main problem of Evangelion was that they failed to aim at the right target. The people who like Evangelion likes to think a lot while the casual viewers wanted to relax watching the show.

puzzlemaster said:


i have never heard of any of your examples so that doesn't really help. but i am definitly in one of those people that like complex and psychological stories, but this was just simply badly executed. i love when i watch an anime and when i finish it i still don't understand half of the story, but that only applies to the animes that actually explained stuff but it was to complex so when i rewatch it later i understand but evangelion simply didn't show the answers, just threw a bunch of questions out and hoped that the fans could make take some minimal hints and make an awesome story out of it and then they can take the credit. this anime forces you to speculated as to what is really going on while a good anime explains everything but you still may not understand the first time but the answer are all there.

it doesn't matter what someone tells me about this anime or how much they try to explain the story, i was extremly disappointed by this anime.

JanusVonMaria said:


Like half of the people I know answered like you.

On my part, I managed to understand like half of what I explained on the second time I watched Evangelion (first time I was like 5-6 so its obviously impossible to understand anything for me at that time).

If you like those psychological animes then watch the series I wrote before, those series don't explain everything like Evangelion, but at least they are way more understandable.

pinkarray said:


Wow. That is super young to be watching the show, but oaaaakay.O_O