Leknaat said: lanblade, that how the entries are. I don't see anything regarding the need of spelling out the numbers in the Naming Conventions for Entries Guidelines. IIRC you came up with that approach at some point and even discussed it in this thread? You can bring them up if you know were the related conversations are? I asked about it as some entries were already spelled out before all this (ex. Onna Kyoushi Nijuusan-sai) and didn't know which one was right and got the o-k that spelling it out was the better option. It's not like I have the ability to change the anime titles myself, someone gave the green-light. And in turn why all my submitted DB anime had spelled out titles (really, just those minna OVA snoozefest ones, I don't remember any others that used numbers so much). What about in cases where there's furigana? Is the furigana for numbers ignored in the title but accepted for the kanji parts if the whole title has furigana? The earliest number to name change I can remember is the Tezuka 24 hour TV Specials because it was from the longest forum post I had ever made http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=6020#msg29833563 Since I don't talk about the reasoning in that post, that means it was already established spelled out>numerals. But I don't remember when/what the first instance was. I'm trying custom google searching but it keeps giving me regular forum posts where I happen to say "number" or "name" or that character identification thread. |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/18573/Noobow_(TV) No point in having the (TV), none of the other entries have just "Noobow" as the title and they all have different Japanese names. http://myanimelist.net/anime/546/Wind:_A_Breath_of_Heart_(TV) The Japanese title has (2004) should this be followed? Same here: http://myanimelist.net/anime/715/Yume_de_Aetara Which would remove (TV) from here: http://myanimelist.net/anime/718/Yume_de_Aetara_(TV) Same here: http://myanimelist.net/anime/18205/World_Fool_News_(TV) I actually somewhat doubt the dates on the titles above (I searched for a bit, found nothing) so maybe they should be removed from the Japanese titles if they aren't official and just whoever was making the entry added them at the time, hell, the Yume de Aetara OVAs have 1999 in the Japanese title and were released in 1998... Also, VNDB doesn't have a Japanese title for Wind: A Breath of Heart but ANN does. AniDB says the official title of World Fool News has the (2014) but I don't see that mentioned anywhere else. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/29163 "That is a Voica Actor!" Is it correct..? |
| I saw that when someone requested and was going to fix it but I sorta of expected the mods to know better, very funny. http://myanimelist.net/anime/30686/Pocket_Monsters_XY:_Fuupa_no_Odemashi_Daisakusen!! Move the main title to synonyms, and add "Pokemon XY: Fuupa no Odemashi Daisakusen!!" as the main title. |
Paulo27Jul 8, 2015 7:39 AM
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| For the Gintama sequels, the episode count relative to the start of the series should be placed into synonyms. http://myanimelist.net/anime/9969/Gintama (Gintama episode 202-252) http://myanimelist.net/anime/15417/Gintama:_Enchousen (Gintama episode 253-265) http://myanimelist.net/anime/28977/Gintama (Gintama episode 266+) This should help people not familiar with the series know what's going on with them, as most other places, including where you can watch it use a continuous numbering scheme unlike how it is on here. Eg latest Gintama o episode 14 is known as episode 279 |
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| updated. Akarin >The current main title isn't a romaji title. But, it IS. The japanese title is updated now to make it clear. >alphabetical order for movies is incorrect: 2 -> 3 -> 1 I can't think of anything... Capitalization issues will have to wait. >Voica corrected. lanblade, I'll PM you. Paulo27, >The Japanese title has (2004) should this be followed? In that case it should still follow MAL's guidelines. The dates will stay, unless you (or someone else) have other dates to submit. >AniDB says, Also, VNDB doesn't Irrelevant. They have their own guidelines. vvvortic, yes and no. Maybe a better place would be a More Info section? |
LeknaatJul 8, 2015 8:11 AM
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/29163 "That is a Voicel Actor!" Is it correct..? :D |
AkarinJul 8, 2015 8:21 AM
| I was merely pointing out that the dates might not be official, as in, someone here added them by themselves, or in that AniDB case copyed from there, some anime actually have dates in their titles, just thinking these ones might not. And aren't the guidelines just for the same titles? If that one was indeed released with (2004) in the title I don't see why it'd required (TV). |
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| Akarin, no, that's a typo! :D Paulo27, they tend to get added back... Please help out and look for the official dates if you suspect them being incorrect. :) |
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| I don't see a big deal with either. No harm in whatever happens for example I recently watched K-on and wondered why there was a 14th episode and 27th episode, after going through the entries it was well cleared up when it was simply put on synonyms on here. http://myanimelist.net/anime/6862/K-On!:_Live_House! that's the example of it which I can think of off of the top of my head where something is considered as an extra episode(s) to a series in most places but is required to have a different entry on here, surely there are many more Best clarity will be on synonyms as it still doesn't affect entry but will be seen by everyone who looks. Less people will look into more info but it's better than nothing if you believe that to be the best option |
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| Please at least add "Tenchi Muyou! Bangaihen: Uchuu Keiji Mihoshi Ginga Daibouken" to the synonyms for Tenchi. If I understand Paulo27 right, he say that if "(2004)" is a part of the official Jap. title, it shouldn't be replaced with "(TV)". |
| vvvortic, yes, we do put in episode numbers, but only for the specials. For Gintama I'll add them to More Info section. Thank you. Akarin, added the synonym. >(2004) As far as I understand (2004) is not part of the actual title. It's simply a release year in parenthesis. |
LeknaatJul 8, 2015 8:32 AM
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Leknaat said: As far as I understand (2004) is not part of the actual title. Then it should be removed from the Jap. title and from synonyms. |
| Akarin, sure, but synonym can stay, of course, no harm there. |
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Fennoah said: Official English title (via Funi) is: Seiyu's Life wasn't done. http://myanimelist.net/anime/31113/Suisei_no_Gargantia:_Puchitto_Furikaerintia Main title: "Puchitto Furikaerintia" http://i.imgur.com/0W6GwsS.png Remove "Suisei no Gargantia: " The similar entry is: http://myanimelist.net/anime/18413/Puchitto_Gargantia http://myanimelist.net/anime/30056/Amagi_Brilliant_Park:_Wakuwaku_Mini_Theater Add synonym "Exciting Mini Theater" |
AkarinJul 8, 2015 9:27 AM
| The Monster Musume ONA series has started yesterday with the main series: http://myanimelist.net/anime/31121/ The episodes are 3 minutes long but the actual content is only around 40 seconds, after that it's Miia counting sheep for her darling while they're showing the release dates for the BDs, OP/ED singles and such. |
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Leknaat said: That's exactly what I was saying. I wasn't really saying the dates were wrong (well, only in the case of the Yume de Aetara OVAs in which the Japanese title doesn't match the release date), if it's not part of the official Japanese title the date shouldn't be in the Japanese title, like the World Fool News TV, AniDB has the (2014) in the Japanese title there and I bet whoever added that entry here copied the title straight from there and with the difference in guidelines AniDB might just require the (2014) (I don't their guidelines so just assuming) even if it's not official, whereas MAL wants the official titles, which likely DON'T have the dates in them, I searched for World Fool News and couldn't find a single time where it had the date in the name aside from AniDB.>(2004) As far as I understand (2004) is not part of the actual title. It's simply a release year in parenthesis. Same for the Yume de Aetara OVAs, I searched and I bet that (1999) doesn't belong in the Japanese title and was just added at the time by whoever added the entry to the DB just to distinguish it from the other entry with the same Japanese title. I hope I'm being clear enough here, basically, remove the dates from the Japanese titles for the entries I mentioned. And as far as I understand if a date is in the Japanese title then it should also be in the main title and that'd overwrite the (TV) (I know MAL also adds dates to main titles on its own when it's required but if the official Japanese title has a date I think it should be followed too). |
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| Paulo27, oh, you don't mean the airing dates. My bad. I'll remove. |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/11897/Battle_of_Clay http://myanimelist.net/anime/11883/Battle_of_Clay_2 Swap title for synonym. http://myanimelist.net/anime/25183/Gangsta. Does this need the "."? It's missing from the Japanese title. The manga has this as the Japanese title: "GANGSTA. ギャングスタ" |
Paulo27Jul 8, 2015 10:30 AM
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/31137/Mahou_Shoujo_Lyrical_Nanoha_ViVid:_Special_Program Not sure why the main series has adventure genre, but it should be removed from this recap. |
| Paulo27, >Does this need the "."? Yeah. I've updated the japanese title to match the manga entry. |
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Paulo27Jul 8, 2015 11:16 AM
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| Paulo27, since most of the entries are "vs.", I would go with it for consistency. >Ladies_versus_Butlers! That one is probably an exception, since there is an official romanization on the logo. |
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| I guess I could explain why I requested the changes at the bottom, basically, I think if an entry has the "VS" in the Japanese title then it should get a "vs." in the main one but if it has it spelled in Japanese (対 or whatever) as opossed to the "VS" then it should be changed to "tai". It's fine either way though. |
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| Paulo27, yes, that's what I was thinking myself. |
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Leknaat said: >Ladies_versus_Butlers! That one is probably an exception, since there is an official romanization on the logo. That's the official Eng. title, not romanization. I've seen a lot of similar manga entries, and in all cases they put this into Eng. title field and set the actual romanization as the main title. In this case it should be something like "Lady x Bato!" |
Akarin said: Considering there's "Redei x Bato!" in the synonyms, it's probably that if it'd get changed.Leknaat said: >Ladies_versus_Butlers! That one is probably an exception, since there is an official romanization on the logo. That's the official Eng. title, not romanization. I've seen a lot of similar manga entries, and in all cases they put this into Eng. title field and set the actual romanization as the main title. In this case it should be something like "Lady x Bato!" |
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| Akarin, yeah, it's used for the english titles in most cases. I won't be making the change though. |
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Paulo27 said: I guess I could explain why I requested the changes at the bottom, basically, I think if an entry has the "VS" in the Japanese title then it should get a "vs." in the main one but if it has it spelled in Japanese (対 or whatever) as opossed to the "VS" then it should be changed to "tai". It's fine either way though. It does bring up another facet of the furigana similar to the numbers issue. For example, the Ninja Hattori one you posted, it has the たい furigana on top of the VS. Which was why I used "Tai" in the main title when I submitted that anime to the DB. Dangerous Jiisan is another one of my entries but I couldn't find furigana for it so I left it exactly show it was spelled in the Jap title with the caps. I guess to add on, is furigana ignored for abbreviations but still accepted for the rest of the kanji in the title? |
| I also see most entries with "Tai" instead of "tai": http://myanimelist.net/anime/12561/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/4387/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/10755/ Change these and the ones you just changed above, my bad: http://myanimelist.net/anime/4385/Great_Mazinger_vs._Getter_Robo http://myanimelist.net/anime/4386/Great_Mazinger_vs._Getter_Robo_G:_Kuuchuu_Dai-Gekitotsu http://myanimelist.net/anime/3898/Mazinger_Z_vs._Devilman http://myanimelist.net/anime/4388/Mazinger_Z_vs._Dr._Hell http://myanimelist.net/anime/4406/Mazinger_Z_vs._General_Dark |
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| lanblade, oh, I see it now on that little poster. Sure it can be changed back to "Tai" becoming an exception, just so we can be consistent with that naming rule? |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/5207/ Redundant synonym (more like redundant main title, change synonym to main and delete main). http://myanimelist.net/anime/192/ Swap synonym with main title. http://myanimelist.net/anime/10431/ Swap main title with synonym (Baka to Test to Shoukanjuu: Matsuri - Sentaku ni Yotte Tenkai ga Kawaru "LIPS Eizou"). http://myanimelist.net/anime/963/ Change main title to (Love Hina: Motoko no Sentaku, Koi ka Ken... "Naku na") Reminder to this: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=8200#msg40438853 |
Paulo27Jul 8, 2015 12:23 PM
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Paulo27 said: http://myanimelist.net/anime/5207/ Redundant synonym (more like redundant main title, change synonym to main and delete main). "Kyoudai" isn't romanized correctly, is it? Love Hina : there should be a heart symbol between words. (Source: DVD covers) |
| >Reminder to this: yeah, it's almost done. >"Kyoudai" corrected. |
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Akarin said: Should it? I think that might just be a random symbol, not really part of the title here.Paulo27 said: http://myanimelist.net/anime/5207/ Redundant synonym (more like redundant main title, change synonym to main and delete main). "Kyoudai" isn't romanized correctly, is it? Love Hina : there should be a heart symbol between words. (Source: DVD covers) |
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Paulo27 said: Should it? I think that might just be a random symbol, not really part of the title here. Check out DVD covers. There's a heart symbol in both Jap. and romaji titles. |
| >Love Hina http://www.allcinema.net/prog/show_c.php?num_c=159964 I see no hearts in the japanese title "ラブひな" - the heart (on that DVD cover) is simply for decoration. |
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Akarin said: There's a "heart" here too:Paulo27 said: Should it? I think that might just be a random symbol, not really part of the title here. Check out DVD covers. There's a heart symbol in both Jap. and romaji titles. http://i43.tower.com/images/mm111729956/love-hina-again-dvd-cover-art.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71tqi%2BIGJNL._SY500_.jpg http://s304.photobucket.com/user/kara25_02/media/Obmultimedia_love_hina_dvd.jpg.html http://www.fharaoncovers.com/covers/Love_hina_vol_2.jpg I think it's really just decoration. |
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Paulo27 said: http://i43.tower.com/images/mm111729956/love-hina-again-dvd-cover-art.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71tqi%2BIGJNL._SY500_.jpg http://s304.photobucket.com/user/kara25_02/media/Obmultimedia_love_hina_dvd.jpg.html http://www.fharaoncovers.com/covers/Love_hina_vol_2.jpg I think it's really just decoration. These are American DVDs :) |
Akarin said: All the ones I'm finding have the exact same logo as the 4th one I posted (small heart in the middle).Paulo27 said: http://i43.tower.com/images/mm111729956/love-hina-again-dvd-cover-art.jpg http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71tqi%2BIGJNL._SY500_.jpg http://s304.photobucket.com/user/kara25_02/media/Obmultimedia_love_hina_dvd.jpg.html http://www.fharaoncovers.com/covers/Love_hina_vol_2.jpg I think it's really just decoration. These are American DVDs :) |
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| Yeah, seems like it's just a decoration, since most sources just use "『ラブひな』" |
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/4461/Man_&_Whale Replace main title with Kocho-sensei to Kujira. |
Paulo27Jul 8, 2015 12:52 PM
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Paulo27 said: Did you miss these? Capitalize "tai".<I also see most entries with "Tai" instead of "tai": http://myanimelist.net/anime/12561/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/4387/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/10755/ Change these and the ones you just changed above, my bad: http://myanimelist.net/anime/4385/Great_Mazinger_vs._Getter_Robo http://myanimelist.net/anime/4386/Great_Mazinger_vs._Getter_Robo_G:_Kuuchuu_Dai-Gekitotsu http://myanimelist.net/anime/3898/Mazinger_Z_vs._Devilman http://myanimelist.net/anime/4388/Mazinger_Z_vs._Dr._Hell http://myanimelist.net/anime/4406/Mazinger_Z_vs._General_Dark Or I can give you a list with ones that have "Tai" instead of "tai". |
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| Paulo27, of course not. But I am going to sleep, so that will have to wait till tomorrow. (add a list with TAI please) |
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| http://myanimelist.net/anime/12791/ Should be Reppuu-tai. http://myanimelist.net/anime/3991/ Replace Japanese title with "魔法少女隊アルス the Adventure". Has "Tai": http://myanimelist.net/anime/8848/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/9316/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/938/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/898/ (Actually thought there'd be more, I think it's because I'm using animeadvice and lots of Gatchaman entries had stuff like "Ninja-Tai" which have been fixed since the last time the website updated the entries so I just thought there'd be more with "Tai".) |
Paulo27Jul 8, 2015 2:10 PM
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| My request from 2 months ago that hasn't been done yet: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=8050#msg40023638 Akarin said: http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?q=prince%20of%20tennis Manga entries are in romaji. Isn't it about time to rename anime, too? arsonal said: Noted. I will make the changes in bulk in the near future. I normally do this when I have a chunk of spare time so that I can sit down and do major clean-ups altogether instead of just changing the titles. I think arsonal just forgot about it... Also, demographic tags: http://myanimelist.net/anime/23135/PriPara http://myanimelist.net/anime/25857/PriPara_Movie:_Mi~nna_Atsumare!_Prism%E2%98%86Tours http://myanimelist.net/anime/31055/Tobidasu_PriPara:_Minna_de_Mezase!_Idol_Grand_Prix I suggest changing Kids to Shoujo. (Aikatsu, Pretty Rhythm are shoujo) http://myanimelist.net/anime/31055/Tobidasu_PriPara:_Minna_de_Mezase!_Idol_Grand_Prix "Idol Grand Prix" --> "Idol☆Grand Prix" "Minna" --> "Mi~nna" Evangelion movies' titles don't match with the Jap. titles. I checked AniDB out - it uses the correct titles. The current main titles are the official Eng. titles. Since MAL doesn't use "Gekijouban" in main titles, they have to be changed a little: http://myanimelist.net/anime/2759/Evangelion1 --> "Evangelion Shin Movie: Jo" http://myanimelist.net/anime/3784/Evangelion2 --> "Evangelion Shin Movie: Ha" http://myanimelist.net/anime/3785/Evangelion3 --> "Evangelion Shin Movie: Q" (Remove Quickening from the Jap. title) http://myanimelist.net/anime/3786/Evangelion4 --> "Evangelion Shin Movie: ||" Add "Rebuild of Evangelion" synonym to the 4th movie. http://myanimelist.net/anime/9611/Aa!_Megami-sama!_%282011%29 Add synonym with "OAD" http://myanimelist.net/anime/23623/Non_Non_Biyori_Repeat Add Seinen And I think the relations have to be fixed: OVA is a side story to the 1st season, and 1st-2nd seasons prequel-sequel relation. |
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