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Jun 11, 2016 9:21 PM
#401
Crossbell said: We should really stop the role hinting/breadcrumbs though. For each vanilla claim, or power role claim, we only make it easier for the scum to kill off our most valuable resource, which are the five confirmed townies in the OP. Only claim in twilight. I didn't claim just a small hint Crossbell said: Hm. Shinichi is probably town. Not the strongest townread in the world, but he is showing genuine confusion when being scumread. <3 |
Jun 11, 2016 9:21 PM
#402
Three scum in seven names, most of which are lurking or I'm wrong about a townread somewhere (to be honest, I probably am). |
Jun 11, 2016 9:23 PM
#403
Small hints, or even outright vanilla claims (like Arrisu did) give the scum a better picture of who to target at Night. That directly impedes our win condition. Please cease all role-related discussion until Twilight, then we'll have our two lynchees claim if necessary. |
Jun 11, 2016 9:24 PM
#404
Crossbell said: Small hints, or even outright vanilla claims (like Arrisu did) give the scum a better picture of who to target at Night. That directly impedes our win condition. Please cease all role-related discussion until Twilight, then we'll have our two lynchees claim if necessary. Fair Enough Crossbell said: Three scum in seven names, most of which are lurking or I'm wrong about a townread somewhere (to be honest, I probably am). does pink mean ur the towniest of town lol? |
Jun 11, 2016 9:24 PM
#405
Crossbell said: Three scum in seven names, most of which are lurking or I'm wrong about a townread somewhere (to be honest, I probably am). That alone is great at hiding his alignment same with soren/arrisu so you never know when you could be town reading a scum. |
Jun 11, 2016 9:27 PM
#406
Shinichi-kun said: I mean, I know I'm town, so yeah.does pink mean ur the towniest of town lol? Violet is alignment confimation. Shinichi-kun said: I have townread scum in the past, many times. The only way you can catch them is by re-evaluating. That alone is great at hiding his alignment same with soren/arrisu so you never know when you could be town reading a scum. But as a rule, my townreads need to be much more accurate than my scumreads, since accurate townreads will help you pinpoint the scum. |
Jun 11, 2016 9:43 PM
#408
Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: Three scum in seven names, most of which are lurking or I'm wrong about a townread somewhere (to be honest, I probably am). That alone is great at hiding his alignment same with soren/arrisu so you never know when you could be town reading a scum. Jack* |
Jun 11, 2016 9:44 PM
#409
I am willing to blindly lynch inside the lurkers in all honest >-> |
Jun 11, 2016 9:46 PM
#411
@shinichi-kun I see you replied back to me but going to give it a read in the morning. My brain is shutting down so going to head to bed now. |
Jun 11, 2016 9:47 PM
#412
Crossbell said: We should really stop the role hinting/breadcrumbs though. For each vanilla claim, or power role claim, we only make it easier for the scum to kill off our most valuable resource, which are the five confirmed townies in the OP. Only claim in twilight. I agree completely. |
Jun 11, 2016 9:48 PM
#413
I don't think Jack is scum, and I want the lurkers to post more honestly. There has to be scum inside one of them and we're only dealing with 24 hour days. I think running up two lurkers, tying the vote, then using the Twilight period to interrogate them/other lurkers seems like a decent idea unless my view of the gamestate is completely off. |
Jun 11, 2016 9:52 PM
#414
Bee-Boy said: I still like Jack for scum though. Why? |
Jun 11, 2016 9:53 PM
#415
Crossbell said: I don't think Jack is scum, and I want the lurkers to post more honestly. There has to be scum inside one of them and we're only dealing with 24 hour days. I think running up two lurkers, tying the vote, then using the Twilight period to interrogate them/other lurkers seems like a decent idea unless my view of the gamestate is completely off. I would not be opposed to this idea given that we need to get rid of the uncertainties earlier in the game when we have the luxury to. Though don't blind yourself that all the lurkers will be scum, I know plenty of active players who are confident in their scum game as well. |
Jun 11, 2016 9:54 PM
#416
The same reason I liked him for scum earlier. I don't think he is scum hunting he is just talking about his play style. and answering questions for the most part. |
Jun 11, 2016 9:55 PM
#417
Jackrito consists of a large portion of this thread and I can't think of any notable scum hunting he has done on the top of my head. |
Jun 11, 2016 11:12 PM
#418
SoulEaterQUEEN said: vote: Crossbell Jackrito said: Vote Shinichi-kun All these naked votes in RVS... Where's the jokes guys? I want my RVS to be brimming with laughter. Jack lurks??? Soren said: Until we find a good lynch candidate I propose that we policy lynch SightlessReality. He does the same thing every game and every phase where he votes himself and refuses to actively scum hunt. Bonus, he wants to get lynched anyways. Vote: SightlessReality Oh no! Policy lynches like these are horrid! Sightless can play the way he wants to play, and I see zero reason he should be policy lynched for his play in previous games. A)Why are you trying to push his lynch this game already expecting his playstyle to resemble his previous games? I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but you seem to be jumping the gun a bit. B) If his play is so detrimental to town, then why try to start a policy on him? Imo, policy lynches are even more detrimental to town, especially in a game with this type of set-up. Our mistakes have to be limited with the scum's buffed win-con, and voting for someone simply for zero game-relevent reasons would probably be the worst mistake we could make. Also, policy lynches in general are just so easy for scum to grab hold of and run with. Not a good vote from Soren at all. SoulEaterQUEEN said: Jackrito said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Jackrito said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Jackrito said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: but by doing this you are playing it safe by exploiting the same d1 methods, why not live a little for once? Why break what works and you living a little is not something I do this early. I have plenty of time to do that. but....it probably won't work as effective when you already exploited your plans this early, no? Not everyone knows the plan so I can still get a bit out of it while I wait for others to post. why should I trust you? No reason to yet imo trust needs to be earned, not given out freely so early. It is up to me and others to convince you, through our actions and words. They is nothing I have done so far which should of made you, so will not pretend that you should. can I just lynch you instead? Bee-Boy said: Jackrito is making me feel uneasy. >_> This shade getting thrown at Jack tho. I see where it's coming from, but he usually has ulterior reasons for his votes in the early game, no? Why are people getting surprised over this? Jackrito said: Soren said: Anyone else getting the feeling that Shinichi-Kun is defending jack? Sadly he is, and I hate when people do this I can defend myself just fine and don't need the help of others. All this does is make me uneasy because it means if they flip bad it reflects badly on me. The whole buddying up thing so early is annoying to say the least. Alright, now that you bring it up, 108 does seem kind of buddy-buddy without any prior reason to town read you stated in the thread. That's a tick for the scummy box. Soren said: Jackrito said: Soren said: Anyone else getting the feeling that Shinichi-Kun is defending jack? Sadly he is, and I hate when people do this I can defend myself just fine and don't need the help of others. All this does is make me uneasy because it means if they flip bad it reflects badly on me. The whole buddying up thing so early is annoying to say the least. If Jack and shinichi were scum I feel like jack would have made this comment in their mafia club instead. Then again, jack just commented on the souleaterqueen and bioshade coaching in the thread could be to gain town cred. So uh, despite this you're still voting for that policy lynch? SightlessReality said: Crossbell said: SoulEaterQueen said: @Crossbell tell me what you are most afraid of on seeing what happens in this game? Or, to be a bit more tongue in cheek.. I see Soren's plan but I disagree with it. In a regular game I'd say yes, but in this game it's pretty vital to actually lynch scum instead of policy lynching/vigging useless players. Interesting that'd you go out of your way to post the end results of another game. You certainly seem devoted to study me. Lowkey jab coming from sightless? What're ya gonna do about it meng? Crossbell said: Jackrito said: How is Soren going to get "town rep" from policy lynching SightlessReality?He is more used to open setups so I want to see if his playstyle will change in something he is more used to. Also not a big fan of policy lynchng someone we are all in this to have fun and enjoy the experiance, coming in with the mindset to kill someone spefic so early is just plain bad. Also this is a easy lynch target looking for some early town rep? Oof, solid questioning coming from Cross over here. That one hit hard. And btw, throughout this read through I'm seeing Cross try to get his town reads in order, and knowing this is what he does best gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling. SoulEaterQUEEN said: Jackrito said: Crossbell said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: One of the players in my home site (the player we're sending to the Champs series, actually).Cool beans, who wrote this? Jackrito said: How is Soren going to get "town rep" from policy lynching SightlessReality?He is more used to open setups so I want to see if his playstyle will change in something he is more used to. Also not a big fan of policy lynchng someone we are all in this to have fun and enjoy the experiance, coming in with the mindset to kill someone spefic so early is just plain bad. Also this is a easy lynch target looking for some early town rep? SoulEaterQUEEN said: OK, thanks, this makes sense, especially with how I've seen Jackrito play D1s.but I am trying to break him out of his usual "mold", otherwise he will become bit of a challenge to read later in the game. Though his increased activity in this D1 intrigues me a little inside. I would say he gets town rep, because sightless is one of those lynchs where you will not be blamed if he turns bad and it will be more, blamed on Sightless playstyle. People will like the way that he is proactive in scumhunting and had clear ideas even if wrong as well . As scum they are little negatives in lynching Sightless espically if he has a good role. But you don't touch on the point on reasons/conviction for a lynch to go through. SightlessReality is a poor choice when it comes to develop a strong reason/conviction to lynch him. So with this new point, why would it be that he would gain town rep from this? Soul just comes back even stronger. I'm loving the dialogue between Jack and Soul that continues for a while. I can just read through both sides so easily, and everything makes sense where they're both coming from. Sadly, it devolves into strategy for approaching this game. Wish it could've stayed on calling the sightless push into question. I think it's TvT, but I'm still reading. Shinichi-Kun said: Why you trying to break someone out of their usual style Also is it me or are people getting town reads way to fast over the slighest of stuff. I have p-much no memory of you defending everyone D1. In fact, you often scumhunt D1? Why would anyone try to defend everyone and just prevent lynchs from occurring? Doesn't that just seem counter-intuitive to all town play ever? Why are you blaming all this on playstyle? What kind of entry to the game is this? Vote: Kaito Not liking you buddying for Jack earlier either, gimme your scumreads. aa-dono said: Goodmorning Vote Crossbell I'll leave that there while I try and read all 159 messages~ Little late for RVS Dono... aa-dono said: Crossbell said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: yeah sure but don't forget that scum can win when there's 6 townies alive and 3 scum alive >.> so I rather not use this weapon so freely. I think we can use our respective scumhunting powers to at least bury one, maybe more. My top priority is to actually get one scum lynched, as snagging at least one will lighten the noose around our neck. If the both lynches turns out to be town, it would backfire. Plus, what kind of info can be gained from double lynch? It's almost like not making a decision. Sounds like a double-decision to me. The Dono votes are fine with me tbh. I feel like she's reticent early game, so the pressure will be good for something? We'll see I guess. SightlessReality said: If we do double lynch I think we should wait for day two. Rather then do it Day 1. I feel that the double lynch option was meant to be utilized in conjunction with the multiple cops in the game. Sightless has a smart brain. Pitching in on this, it's really tempting to go with the twilight route and do the double lynch, but it's a bit of a crapshoot to risk that much on D1. I just love toying with the idea of a double lynch. It has the potential to give the town so much info, yet simultaneously hurt it. Page 5 I feel like too much semantics and too much strategy about the game is being discussed on this page. Not enough scum hunting going on for my taste. Like, more than half the stuff on this page isn't even indicative of anything. Shuuka said: oooh didnt realize it started o; been busy all day Vote: Jackrito he's almost always scummm ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Way too late for RVS. (and I thought Dono was late the party). Read up kids. Page 6 Still have no remembrance of Kaito's meta being him defending everyone, and this is weird because I've played a couple games with him. Jack pushing him from this angle is meh, but Kaito seeming to defend himself earlier implying that this was his town meta strikes me a bit scummier now. Still happy with that vote on him. All I remember from shinichi is that he scumhunts and votes people? Not "defend everyone" as he puts it? Idk, why is he bringing this up in response to the flak he was getting earlier when people accused him of buddying with Jack and is continuing to defend himself with it now? I don't like it. Page 7, and it seems that Shinichi has a huge problem with Ari walking into the thread like she was born town. He's pushing her for a couple different reasons, but the only one that stands out to me as somewhat valid might be the one about phoning in the meta read, everything else seems like he's upset with her entry to the game and the fact that she scum-read him immediately. Arrisu said: Is he meta reading you though? I don't think he brought up any past games or such to substantiate a read on you. In fact, his one semi-decent reason for voting you is the fact that you incorrectly used a meta read on him, (but from Fo's game, incorrect meta usage and scumreads surrounding those don't always work out for various reasons).Shinichi is falling to pressure ~~~ Lol like scum-reading me no matter what I say or do. Face it, you just don't accept that I play differently then you. Besides, you are scum-reading me for things that I have done countless times before & yet still flipped town. :D So clearly you aren't very good at meta reading me yet. Okay, so I've read up to page seven. Uhhh, it's really late. I can take questions, but not for long. |
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Jun 11, 2016 11:15 PM
#419
I should probably go back and read again. There's a lot I didn't follow-up on. |
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Jun 11, 2016 11:15 PM
#420
I need like, 2 catch ups, but it's so late. |
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Jun 11, 2016 11:18 PM
#421
hehe, I got the 420 post |
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Jun 11, 2016 11:39 PM
#422
Bee-Boy said: This is all true and part of why I'm hesitant on fully clearing Jack - he's had townie reactions, yes, but I can't remember who he is scumreading, nor the questions he has asked. I'll review tomorrow.Jackrito consists of a large portion of this thread and I can't think of any notable scum hunting he has done on the top of my head. I see Lucian's catchup and have some questions for him but I'll wait until he finishes his catchup. I'm not sure if I like the Shinichi vote after focus-firing on Soren's initial posts, though. |
Jun 11, 2016 11:42 PM
#423
I don't think I'm going to finish tonight Cross, you can still ask me though. |
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Jun 11, 2016 11:44 PM
#424
Actually, nvm, I'm just going to get back to people tomorrow, I mean, today. Goodnight. |
"If you look for a ghost, you'll find one." |
Jun 11, 2016 11:47 PM
#425
Picking up where I left, off.... I don't see any notification that says Soren and Jack(#247) replied to me. Hmmm |
Jun 11, 2016 11:52 PM
#426
Shinichi-Kun said: Bee-Boy said: people think I am town* not because they trust me. Like sheeping town reads for no reason is pretty common from what I have seen. Prob cause your through process is very townlike or maybe thats just me. Assuming you meant thought process... Why do you think his thought process is town-like? Is it similar to yours? But he didn't defend people. |
Jun 11, 2016 11:55 PM
#427
Crossbell said: Bee-Boy said: I won't deny your point (him answering questions rather than asking them was something that raised my eyebrow as well), but what do you think about Jack actually believing the things he is saying?vote: Jackrito He is talking too much about his play style and not enough about scum hunting. He is answering questions rather then asking them. I am just losing the gut feeling I had earlier. That's the feeling I'm somewhat getting from his posts, though I might reread in a bit. What do you mean by Jack believing the things he was saying? You mean he believes them as in they're not lies? Somewhere in a game I played before, someone pointed out that Jack doesn't lie even as scum. |
Jun 12, 2016 12:00 AM
#428
Togs said: Shinichi-Kun said: Shinichi looks genuine in thinking that since he looks at the thread and doesn’t get any reads out of it yet, no one else should have any reads either. He also buts into someone else’s question in a way that I don’t think a scum would do.SoulEaterQUEEN said: Bee-Boy said: Jackrito is making me feel uneasy. >_> he's scum he's scum he's scum let's lynch him vote: Jackrito everyone we found scum! Why u want jack dead so badly lol Soren said: Bee-Boy said: Am I detecting that you have a slight scum read on him?Jackrito is making me feel uneasy. >_> I doubt it, way to early to have even the slighest scum read in my opinion. When you say reads, do you mean only scumreads? Because Shinichi did read someone as town. |
Jun 12, 2016 12:04 AM
#429
Arrisu said: So from what I see right now: seems like mostly town bantering, discussing among each other. I think aa-dono needs to get pressured. She's being a bit odd this game so far. Will anybody help me out here? Vote: aa-dono Also too much blah blah on mechanics & too little voting happening. You find me odd everytime. Why do you find me odd this time? |
Jun 12, 2016 12:10 AM
#430
SoulEaterQUEEN said: Arrisu said: @SoulEaterQUEEN - Information & thoughts on the game are mostly classified until further notice. Just trust me, yes? For now. You trust her vote on me? Why? And how so? Just by saying you trust Arrisu doesn't show that you do. |
Jun 12, 2016 12:11 AM
#431
Crossbell said: After ISOing aa-dono, I agree with Arrisu and I think Arrisu's likely town as well. Vote: aa-dono How so? |
Jun 12, 2016 12:14 AM
#432
bioshade2 said: Arrisu said: Crossbell said: Arrisu said: Can you substantiate this with meta?As for Shinichi, his play is scummy too. He's jumping in to people's rescue too quickly. I feel like he does this quite a bit when mafia too. Food for thought. If your asking me to go and get proof, I'm way too lazy for that. @Togs - Key word you use there is "useless". To me, if you aren't bothering to push or ask questions then you aren't being protown. Shinichi has more then enough experience with mafia to not be uncomfortable in appearance with mechanics. Though I find it interesting everyone is asking me about Shinichi but not aa-dono. :) as for shinichi jumping into peoples rescue, jumping in to everyone's rescue might actually be trying to get a feel on how people react to the defense to get a map of how they might interact in here, getting a little iffy vibe off of crossbell and arrisu, seem to be pushing for a move that could very easily come back to bite towns rear if i understand double lynching correctly. Can you please elaborate more on the bolded part? |
Jun 12, 2016 12:20 AM
#433
Arrisu said: Bee-Boy said: I know someone who goes by Ari who is one of the softest players I have seen. This won't get confusing. I'm the same Ari, just have an alter ego on MAL. @Togs - I guess I can tell you. Dono legit did zero scum-hunting when she popped into the game. Though I noticed how she immediately tried to break down the idea of using the Twilight phase to town's advantage right away. Dono is a smart girl, so from a mafia perceptive it would only be natural to want to break down that idea asap for town. Also my gut is screaming for me to lynch dono & I have a habit of having an accurate gut reading. Thanks for the compliment. I don't make much speculation on Day 1. I wish I could but meh. Anyway, what do you mean I'm not scum-hunting? Also, I never said the Twilight phase is advantageous. I was pointing out that it's a double-edge. How are you reading it? |
Jun 12, 2016 12:21 AM
#434
aa-dono said: Tell me how the question helps do anything and I'll answer happily.Crossbell said: After ISOing aa-dono, I agree with Arrisu and I think Arrisu's likely town as well. Vote: aa-dono How so? |
Jun 12, 2016 12:25 AM
#435
Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Here again. The "zero scum-hunting". I'm not sure how scum-hunting is to everyone else now since I've been getting that a lot in most games. My questions are there for me to understand how someone works. If I see a point where I can continue, I would. Also, sometimes, I don't probe when someone doesn't reply because I take note of that. And in later phase I could go back to it. Now, for someone who wanted to wait for more people, you voted me quite quick the moment Ari mentioned me. Isn't this jumping on it because I haven't remove vote? |
Jun 12, 2016 12:29 AM
#436
Togs said: Ok read through AA. First she asks two questions and seems completely uninterested in the answers. Then she gets in a conversation with SoulEater about the mechanics of double lynching. So scumhunting doesn’t really seems to catch her interest but the setup does. Yeah I definitely would like some more pressure on her. vote: aa-dono I am interested in the answer. If they're answered, that's fine. Sometimes I continue, sometimes I paused for later. As for those who doesn't answer my question, I'll probe again when I want to. Also I go post by post. I used to not even know what discussing mechanics is, but if it let me understand more about what I can use and what I can't, why not? It's not like that was the only thing that caught my attention. |
Jun 12, 2016 12:31 AM
#437
Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Aren't "information & thoughts on the game mostly classified"? Are you just using others for your reasonings? Edit: The " " |
aa-donoJun 12, 2016 1:12 AM
Jun 12, 2016 12:33 AM
#438
Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: Shinichi-kun said: If you can't take the time to gather facts then ur just throwing out baseless accusations expecting the newbies to just follow you that is extremely scummy in my opinion. Smh lol even if i do vote, i won't alone deem ari scum off of that 1 statement. Vote:Arrisu So why are you voting for Ari now? |
Jun 12, 2016 12:37 AM
#439
Shinichi-Kun said: Crossbell said: Shinichi-Kun said: Arrisu said: Bee-Boy said: Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Define "hmmm" I don't particularly understand why there are so many votes on Jack as of yet. It feels too easy of a lynch? I never like when lynches seem easy. It rubs me the wrong way. I'm still not sure what jack has said that make's him deserving of all those votes in the first place, cause even i feel as though the train both built up too fast and is kinda an easy lynch. Cause scum can easily be hiding in that wagon as we speak. Never implied their was scum on the train just that it was a possibility. When you said there's a possibility, you're basically implying that. Why do I get contradiction vibe from you, Shin-chan? |
Jun 12, 2016 12:43 AM
#440
SoulEaterQUEEN said: I would be interested in seeing a possible double lynch on aa-dono and Kaito if nothing else. Cute lol SoulEaterQUEEN said: Alright, time to hop off the Jackrito train. Jack's reaction to his train earlier really felt like a frustrated !town!Jackrito, rather than a panicked scum (though I don't think he really panics as scum tbh), so far I have a light town read on him. But I want follow up on who he wants to lynch this phase. Onto the Kaito train: he's a bit wish washy, and the vote on Arrisu feels like it came out of nowhere when someone asked him to vote. This felt like it came from a pressure related reason (re-read perhaps) vote: Kaito @Arrisu as for the vote on aa-dono, not a bad idea, though she is a bit of a null tell for me. I actually can't think of an example where she actually scum hunts properly though, she played liked this pretty similarly in Denja's game and she got a lot of heat from it at the beginning but ended up being town afterwards, part of my reluctance, but I was too caught up with the Jack train to be interested. I used Jack as bit of a wagon bait, but not too impressed with the results with it, shuuka has bit of a weird entrance with it and Bee-Boy I was unsure how strong his conviction was on Jack but he's getting a light town-town read from other player's so going to observe him a bit more. I don't get it here. So you think I'm a null tell. And that I scum-hunt poorly (oh, my not-so-fragile heart) in a different game as well but ended up town. You said you're reluctant. But you're still fine with lynching me? Also, I don't get why Shuuka's entrance is weird. Sure, she was late. But it could be that she didn't read all the post yet when she cast that random vote. |
Jun 12, 2016 12:48 AM
#441
Shinichi-Kun said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: SoulEaterQUEEN said: Alright, time to hop off the Jackrito train. Jack's reaction to his train earlier really felt like a frustrated !town!Jackrito, rather than a panicked scum (though I don't think he really panics as scum tbh), so far I have a light town read on him. But I want follow up on who he wants to lynch this phase. Onto the Kaito train: he's a bit wish washy, and the vote on Arrisu feels like it came out of nowhere when someone asked him to vote. This felt like it came from a pressure related reason (re-read perhaps) vote: Kaito @Arrisu as for the vote on aa-dono, not a bad idea, though she is a bit of a null tell for me. I actually can't think of an example where she actually scum hunts properly though, she played liked this pretty similarly in Denja's game and she got a lot of heat from it at the beginning but ended up being town afterwards, part of my reluctance, but I was too caught up with the Jack train to be interested. I used Jack as bit of a wagon bait, but not too impressed with the results with it, shuuka has bit of a weird entrance with it and Bee-Boy I was unsure how strong his conviction was on Jack but he's getting a light town-town read from other player's so going to observe him a bit more. I would be interested in seeing a possible double lynch on aa-dono and Kaito if nothing else. when I say wish-washy it is more in terms of his emotions, his tone in his posts feel really emotional, and a slightly bit defensive? There's really no reason to be this reactive when nothing substantial has happened in the phase earlier and barely no pressure was put on him but when the pressure starts to shift he begins to react - just really not getting good vibes. I will break some down examples in the morning, but the interaction between him and Ari is what is tipping me off. Just a little annoyed at all the emta being thrown at me without any proof or evidence to back it up that's all theirs no emotion what so ever in my posts XD, not the kind of person that gets emotional in forum mafia. I don't really like posting non-related things, but Shin-chan XXXXXDDDDD |
Jun 12, 2016 12:55 AM
#442
Bee-Boy said: I still like Jack for scum though. Why is that? |
Jun 12, 2016 1:00 AM
#443
Crossbell said: Bee-Boy said: This is all true and part of why I'm hesitant on fully clearing Jack - he's had townie reactions, yes, but I can't remember who he is scumreading, nor the questions he has asked. I'll review tomorrow.Jackrito consists of a large portion of this thread and I can't think of any notable scum hunting he has done on the top of my head. But you declared "I don't think Jack's scum" in previous post. How is that not trying to clear him? |
Jun 12, 2016 1:06 AM
#444
Crossbell said: aa-dono said: Tell me how the question helps do anything and I'll answer happily.Crossbell said: After ISOing aa-dono, I agree with Arrisu and I think Arrisu's likely town as well. Vote: aa-dono How so? Finding slips. Sometimes town makes it too (inconsistent words) but what I'm looking for isn't just reaction from the ones I asked. I'm also looking at (if there are) slips, who else would notice it, who pointed it out, who tries to cover it, who tries to defend it and all those. As I said, I'm not good at making speculation. I'd make too much and will be too wary of everyone or my brain will just freeze. |
Jun 12, 2016 1:26 AM
#445
Was about to vote lynch Shinichi-kun because of the contradiction vibe he gives me but going through posts again and I can't ignore this: aa-dono said: Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Aren't "information & thoughts on the game mostly classified"? Are you just using others for your reasonings? Edit: The " " Vote Arrisu I feel like she's putting in a random vote, for the sake of voting. But since we're out of that phase, she comes out with "I'll give reasons later" and then just agreeing with what others pointed at. Though I noticed how she immediately tried to break down the idea of using the Twilight phase to town's advantage right away. That wasn't what I was implying and if she did get scumreads from me by that post, she would read and check again but instead she used the fact that I did discuss about that to strengthen her vote. |
Jun 12, 2016 5:02 AM
#446
Sorry for the late entrance... Didn't realize this game already started... I don't think I'll vote anyone for now Shinichi and Arissu are having their usual quarrel, I'm still thinking why is she voting for aa... Aa fluff a lot IMO Shinichi also tries to protect everyone so I don't think it's a good idea to lynch him now Jack and Soul events are new.. But I do think that one of them or both of them might be town since Soul has been pretty much scum hunting but I've never seen her scum plays before Sightless is doing his usual thing I think, but he might be town since he is more active IMO Jack is really coolheaded so I don't think he'll show it right now if he is scum Crossbell analysis seems pretty okay to me.. BeeBoy is tunnelling a bit towards Jack I think Togs is a pretty analytical player I think since I did follow Tsun maf game although I died N1, he seems to contribute decently Aa seems pretty neutral to me I can't get a grasp on Lucian though Shuuka,Bioshade and Soren are pretty neutral at this point for me I've been trying to improve my plays.. Yeah so if this is awkward maybe I'll change my playstyle again... I also might be a little bit passive this game since I got mafkilled and lynched each one because I think I'm too active ... @Arrisu Why are you voting for aa? I'll follow your lead if I deem nee's reason is logical enough.. Mod: Corrected Ari's name.. |
followindJun 12, 2016 5:16 AM
Jun 12, 2016 6:07 AM
#447
followind said: @Beeboy Is there any reason you're suspecting Jack? If I remembered correctly, there were some people who was scumreading Shinichi Kun Can you all elaborate the reasonings?? I've done all this based on my memory so please remind me if I missed something important or if I Misunderstood something Mod Can you all elaborate --> Can you all elaborate the reasonings |
Jun 12, 2016 6:49 AM
#448
Crossbell said: Bee-Boy said: This is all true and part of why I'm hesitant on fully clearing Jack - he's had townie reactions, yes, but I can't remember who he is scumreading, nor the questions he has asked. I'll review tomorrow.Jackrito consists of a large portion of this thread and I can't think of any notable scum hunting he has done on the top of my head. I see Lucian's catchup and have some questions for him but I'll wait until he finishes his catchup. I'm not sure if I like the Shinichi vote after focus-firing on Soren's initial posts, though. My version of scumhunting is not as direct as others and mainly comes through in the later game my day one play as town is beyond poor and I used to not even try on day ones and just gather info off other people interaactions. This is something I'm trying to change but I lack the natrual agression to scum hunt and pressure like some. If you want to know who I see as scum atm though before I do my reread I would say shinchi as one I put down my intial vote to see if people would try to jump on a easy lynch and then try to bounce the blame onto me. The longer I have had it on though Shinchi play has just made him appear more scum to me for white knighting me and more talking game mechiances then scum hunting, This was made even more certain by the vote on Ari when they did it for bad reasons and did not even beleive in it. I also don't like how anti the double lynch they were I can see some scum been able to take adv of it as I said but if he was bad I can see him been worried by it so why he would fight it. My next scum read would be Soren I don't like the way how easily he backed off his approuch to me if he thought I was bad I feel like he knew that was a trap, and did not want to fall into it. The whole policy lynch in Sightless really rubs me the wrong way for the reasons I gave before as well. I also see him as someone who would try to take adv of the double lynch as mafia since he has faith in his skils to get someone lynched so him pushing for it so hard I see as more of a scum move. Next would be Dono for the points others have given since it just looks off to me but this requires me to reread to be sure. This is my views without the reread which I will do now. High chance this will change. |
Jun 12, 2016 6:53 AM
#449
aa-dono said: Was about to vote lynch Shinichi-kun because of the contradiction vibe he gives me but going through posts again and I can't ignore this: aa-dono said: Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Aren't "information & thoughts on the game mostly classified"? Are you just using others for your reasonings? Edit: The " " Vote Arrisu I feel like she's putting in a random vote, for the sake of voting. But since we're out of that phase, she comes out with "I'll give reasons later" and then just agreeing with what others pointed at. Though I noticed how she immediately tried to break down the idea of using the Twilight phase to town's advantage right away. That wasn't what I was implying and if she did get scumreads from me by that post, she would read and check again but instead she used the fact that I did discuss about that to strengthen her vote. I don't feel the vote was that random since others have agreed with it, they is merit to the reasons which were your lack of scumhunting. You also don't have to share all your reasons when you vote someone sometimes it is best to keep things hidden a person will panic more if they think they slipped and so are more likely to do more. Not everything should be out in the open so early. |
Jun 12, 2016 7:34 AM
#450
Jackrito said: aa-dono said: Was about to vote lynch Shinichi-kun because of the contradiction vibe he gives me but going through posts again and I can't ignore this: aa-dono said: Arrisu said: Crossbell said: I wouldn't say that aa-dono did "zero scum hunting", but instead she fell into the trap that made _Claire_ the Day 1 lynch in Shounen Crossover - all of her questions didn't lead anywhere. She was asking questions for the sake of asking them instead of finding scum. I think it's likely with aa-dono as well, though I /am/ interested in the Jackrito wagon getting a fifth vote. Basically what I think in a nutshell. Thanks for wording it better then I could. I'm kind of half asleep right now. :') Also that choo choo on Jack is hmmm Aren't "information & thoughts on the game mostly classified"? Are you just using others for your reasonings? Edit: The " " Vote Arrisu I feel like she's putting in a random vote, for the sake of voting. But since we're out of that phase, she comes out with "I'll give reasons later" and then just agreeing with what others pointed at. Though I noticed how she immediately tried to break down the idea of using the Twilight phase to town's advantage right away. That wasn't what I was implying and if she did get scumreads from me by that post, she would read and check again but instead she used the fact that I did discuss about that to strengthen her vote. I don't feel the vote was that random since others have agreed with it, they is merit to the reasons which were your lack of scumhunting. You also don't have to share all your reasons when you vote someone sometimes it is best to keep things hidden a person will panic more if they think they slipped and so are more likely to do more. Not everything should be out in the open so early. I see what you mean about not putting everything out so early. I didn't vote for her immediately when I thought that. It's just after a while it wouldn't get away from my thoughts. And Ari did say she doesn't want to reveal the reasons and yet when others give their reasons, she went on saying she thought the same the same the same. Idk, it just doesn't sit well with me. |
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