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Feb 13, 2014 3:16 PM
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Sorry for the paragraph.

Well, on the original question, something like SAO would be possible by (roughly) ten, fifteen years time.

We currently understand the brain just enough to be able to monitor brainwaves, and use them as signals. This is demonstrated in these videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyJj32MsAUo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZrat-VG4Ms

Setup isn't as simple as pop on a NerveGear, lay down on the bed and shout a command, though. It would take about (I assume) thirty to forty-five minutes.

Other problems are the fact that currently, you couldn't have a fistfight without punching a hole in your wall. We can observe brainwaves, and use them as signals, but we cannot fully intercept them without permanent brain surgery.

Honestly, who knows what the future will hold? There may be a day when such brain surgery is required to even use technology, similar to an operating system for computers, and using a NerveGear would be as simple as plugging your earbuds into your computer.

I think we agree, the past is over. -George W. Bush



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Feb 14, 2014 10:00 AM
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I wouldn't buy it even if it does get invented.
Jul 16, 2014 3:44 AM

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I just found something interesting. I think it's the most closest thing to NerveGear right now. It's called Emotiv EPOC.

Here are some pictures:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JxHmwCBFt3g/UXYIrFzfTYI/AAAAAAAAANo/zSm3xJPAjhY/s1600/original_123223_ueuo5_ryeq6eolpscefp5gxz6.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2KJfUAI26uE/UXYIp62qTfI/AAAAAAAAANY/wkufVUlglj8/s1600/images_2.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KDxrXBmfdBA/UXYIqHKKpXI/AAAAAAAAANg/xLKys8y7vAk/s1600/08nove.xlarge1.jpg

And here is some description:
"Based on the latest developments in neuro-technology, Emotiv has developed a revolutionary new personal interface for human computer interaction. The Emotiv EPOC is a high resolution, neuro-signal acquisition and processing wireless neuroheadset. It uses a set of sensors to tune into electric signals produced by the brain to detect player thoughts, feelings and expressions and connects wirelessly to most PCs.

Please note: If you or any of your 3rd party applications require access to Raw EEG, you will need to purchase the Emotiv EEG Neuroheadset."

VR may come sooner than we think. And yes, I know I just jumped right into this topic so please don't be angry if someone mentioned it earlier. Anyway it looks awesome to me. It's definitely closer than Oculus, Sony and Valve VR headsets to "real" VR.
ShAd0wJul 16, 2014 3:53 AM
Oct 1, 2014 9:27 AM
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I really hope someone can develop FullDive technology. It would be so much fun to explore and experience a world like SAO or Alfheim.
klein_saoOct 1, 2014 11:04 AM
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after reading what everyone posted i realized, it isn't a crazy idea to create a nerve gear, actually i found many logical ways to do it an am talking to friends of mine to do it, we found that one way to do it is by using neuroscience to are advantage to actually do it, one idea is that we use a method of the sorts to help the user sleep after they activate the system, afterwards within the helmet would be something...something that can enter the subconscious an allow anyone with the head gear to enter the game world an being trying to create the character they want then after that they will enter an play, when they want to leave all they have to do is log out an they will wake back up after they do an it will be as if they slept (obviously they have not an would need some REAL sleep) an to protect people form binge playing i had the idea that it would be limited to 8 hours of play an then it will automatically log you out an shut down an wont activate until 2 hours pass then you can go back into the game, that is to protect people though from killing themselves over wanting to play for days. another idea i got for it was to create a fail safe in case someone hacked the gear from somewhere else the gear will automatically shut down after logging you out an will report to us that its been hacked an if that is the case we would take legal actions, one of which would be if we found the person them going to jail for attempted murder (messing with the head gear obviously can be FATAL which is why only people that understand the system an gear are allowed to touch it). honestly this IS still the idea an its not complete, i'm trying to figure out how to set it up better an when the plan is in place i will begin with my friends to create a prototype that will be tested an after that will begin a kick starter to help make more an research more into VR gaming, let me know what you all think
Nov 24, 2014 9:32 PM
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Alright first off... I'm gonna have to call 90% of the people posting on this, stupid. Mainly because they think that the technology is out of reach or that it can't happen or that the Oculus Rift is "Virtual Reality". Let's get one thing straight. It's not. Scientists are so close to finding out how the brain actually works it's unreal. Some doctors/scientist/whatever have created robotic limbs for people who have lost theirs. These limbs in some way receive brain waves and those waves tell the leg or arm or whatever to move(still prototypes). In SAO, Nerve gear use laser like things to INTERCEPT brain waves so that they never reach their destined location but instead are took into the game to move your avatar. The way this works, it puts your body in a form of paralysis that does your body no harm. I once read somewhere that this form of paralysis also happens naturally when you have a certain type of dream and when this happens, your brain makes sure to stop your body from doing the things that happen in your dream.

So basically what I'm saying is that if we want VRMMOs to be real, or full dive equipment to be real, we need to find a way to intercept brain waves before they reach their desired location AND THEN create the technology that can correspond with it. This technology is not very far away considering that the internet came out like 20 years ago and the first IPhone in 2007. These things are so close that they can almost be touched. we just need some scientific genius like Akihiko Kayaba to come around and discover this. The Oculus Rift is nowhere near VRMMO full dive like nerve gear was. The Rift uses gyroscopic technology that turns the way you turn... not intercepting brainwaves at all.

So please if you have nothing intelligent to say. Don't say it and save us a headache.
Dec 1, 2014 12:43 PM

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Tsundereppoi said:
Lylaaz said:


Now i have a reason to live old. Haha.

I wish someone could pick up a project and start working towards making something like this. Would be epic.


And then trap and kill players inside a game!!


Not to mention: to also satisfy the dumb-asses who want to be badass like Kirito all just to stroke their ego and delusions and for that they're willing to trap hundreds and thousands of possibly unwilling participants....Stay classy folks. yah jack asses. smh
Dec 2, 2014 10:02 PM

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Mushymushrooms said:
Sorry for the paragraph.

Well, on the original question, something like SAO would be possible by (roughly) ten, fifteen years time.

We currently understand the brain just enough to be able to monitor brainwaves, and use them as signals. This is demonstrated in these videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyJj32MsAUo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZrat-VG4Ms

Setup isn't as simple as pop on a NerveGear, lay down on the bed and shout a command, though. It would take about (I assume) thirty to forty-five minutes.

Other problems are the fact that currently, you couldn't have a fistfight without punching a hole in your wall. We can observe brainwaves, and use them as signals, but we cannot fully intercept them without permanent brain surgery.

Honestly, who knows what the future will hold? There may be a day when such brain surgery is required to even use technology, similar to an operating system for computers, and using a NerveGear would be as simple as plugging your earbuds into your computer.

I think we agree, the past is over. -George W. Bush



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How about we intercept brain nerve signal using certain of electromagnetic waves? it doesnt need to use surgery

Jafko98 said:
Still keep in mind if you want a game like SAO, every little detail, every movement you make, every object you see, and if you want all those things to render, that requires quite some processing power, don't forget that you need to find someone to spend years on making something like that.
It would be great if it existed but still, wouldn't it be bad for our body to be laying down for such a long time? What if someday it actually connects with your brains idk how but people could somehow "hack" into you and do things so you're paralyzed or don't wake up anymore you know.
And all the things to program, smells, sound, feeling, image, etc...
Unless you can somehow manipulate the brain that you can control it and imagine a gaming world precisely looking like the headset tells you to so you can play together?


It is not impossible in 10 years from now we can get very powerful processing speed with using nanotechnology because nowadays we using tsmc0.35-micro meter technology for producing electronic component. For hacking, lets security company think about that. It is not our job.
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I think you're a little too optimistic, it's a lot more complicated than using "electromagnetic waves to intercept the brain nerve signal".
Dec 3, 2014 2:04 AM

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InsertPriestHere said:
I think you're a little too optimistic, it's a lot more complicated than using "electromagnetic waves to intercept the brain nerve signal".


But it lot of better than using surgery. Who want their head being open for the game?
CrazyFrogzDec 3, 2014 2:09 AM
Jun 19, 2015 2:05 AM
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Just to make this clear. It kind of upsets me everyone is saying that nervegear would cost so much money for the hardware. The nervegear itself or amusphere makes sense but the processor "hardware" in my heory would be the brain. Using the brains synapses itself as a memory and a type of processor u can easily process ur own data. There is no actual display and it's not like our brain accepts code so a hardware processor would be pointless. Each brain I asse has it's own electromagnetic and vibratory frequency which is why I think the amusphere used microwaves. To excite synapses into speed processes through heat energy. It can cause a fever and there will need to be safety limits but it is a real possibility.
Mar 11, 2017 6:51 PM
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Update on this. The use of graphine electrodes to read and even intercept signals from the brain is currently being tested by military operatives around the world this could be the breakthrough
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