| Is this technique new? I think it's the first time I've heard of it. I'm kinda updated with the manga so I'm quite sure it's new :)) Or did I just forget about it? |
| If I am correct, he did a similar attack (In the anime) when he was fighting Hody J.. |
| He used it against Hody Jones in the series, but this is the "first" time he used/discovered it. |
| Honestly the bigger question is how does he set it on fire, same with his G3 Thor technique which uses electricity. One Piece for the most part does a pretty damn good job of being consistent within its universe but using elemental stuff was never explained, could be Haki but then why isn't universal to everyone. I mean they explained G2 as some sort of doping technique by pumping blood I can believe that and G3 Luffy was always using an amateur version with gomu gomu no fuusen and it developed into G3 but I was kinda hoping to see an explanation for Red Hawk when I saw Red Hawk used in 3D2Y. |
Humza_96 said: tittycakesXD said: Honestly the bigger question is how does he set it on fire, same with his G3 Thor technique which uses electricity. One Piece for the most part does a pretty damn good job of being consistent within its universe but using elemental stuff was never explained, could be Haki but then why isn't universal to everyone. I mean they explained G2 as some sort of doping technique by pumping blood I can believe that and G3 Luffy was always using an amateur version with gomu gomu no fuusen and it developed into G3 but I was kinda hoping to see an explanation for Red Hawk when I saw Red Hawk used in 3D2Y. I think the Thor electricity one was because of the weather. He lifted his leg into the clouds when there was lightning, so that's sort of explained. As for Red Hawk I have no idea how that's explained. But Sanji does the same thing, how the fk does Sanji set his leg on fire? It looks as hot as Akainu's magma and there's no explanation how. Also what happens when you set rubber on fire? Doesn't it melt? So far he has used Red Hawk against Hodi Jones and I believe against Caesar Clown. As for how it's done I'm absolutely certain there are different elements of Armament Haki. The most common one being the Hardening Element. Red Hawk is probably just Fire Element Armament Haki. That would also explain how Kin'emon is able to use fire swordsmanship. As for the Thor attack, yes when he used Gigant Thor Axe against Shiki in Strong World, he just got the lighting from the sky when it struck his raised leg. But when he used Thor Elephant Gun in Dressrosa against Don Chinjao, there was no lightning in the sky until he actually generated it from his own attack. So that must have been Lightning Element Armament Haki. As for Sanji, before the time skip, he set his leg on fire with the extreme friction caused by spinning really fast. But after the time skip, he has been shown to be able to do this without spinning at all. So that is probably also Fire Element Armament Haki. |
Humza_96 said: tittycakesXD said: Honestly the bigger question is how does he set it on fire, same with his G3 Thor technique which uses electricity. One Piece for the most part does a pretty damn good job of being consistent within its universe but using elemental stuff was never explained, could be Haki but then why isn't universal to everyone. I mean they explained G2 as some sort of doping technique by pumping blood I can believe that and G3 Luffy was always using an amateur version with gomu gomu no fuusen and it developed into G3 but I was kinda hoping to see an explanation for Red Hawk when I saw Red Hawk used in 3D2Y. I think the Thor electricity one was because of the weather. He lifted his leg into the clouds when there was lightning, so that's sort of explained. As for Red Hawk I have no idea how that's explained. But Sanji does the same thing, how the fk does Sanji set his leg on fire? It looks as hot as Akainu's magma and there's no explanation how. Also what happens when you set rubber on fire? Doesn't it melt? The Thor move I'm talking about is when he used Elephant Gun on Chinja in c719. As for Sanji, I believe the explanation was his spin causes enough friction to heat up his leg and as stupid sounding as it is, I can accept that since it is a shonen and as flimsy an explanation, it is still an explanation. But for Luffy there is no explanation for the fire or electricity, it just kinda shows up all of a sudden but Luffy could've easily used something else like grizzly magnum or w/e. I suspect it might be a high level form of haki or maybe personal haki style or something to that end but so far no explanation from oda though. |
Humza_96 said: tittycakesXD said: The Thor move I'm talking about is when he used Elephant Gun on Chinja in c719. As for Sanji, I believe the explanation was his spin causes enough friction to heat up his leg and as stupid sounding as it is, I can accept that since it is a shonen and as flimsy an explanation, it is still an explanation. But for Luffy there is no explanation for the fire or electricity, it just kinda shows up all of a sudden but Luffy could've easily used something else like grizzly magnum or w/e. I suspect it might be a high level form of haki or maybe personal haki style or something to that end but so far no explanation from oda though. I don't think that the lightning in the Don Chinjao fight was produced by Luffy. I just watched it again and it seems to only appear when Luffy and Din Chinjao are about to make contact. I think that the electricity is meant to be the effect of when 2 Conqueror's Haki users fight against each other. So I don't think Luffy can produce electricity. Also if Sanji can produce fire by friction I'm pretty sure that's what Luffy did with Red Hawk. Because when he pulls his arm back he twists it, which is similar to the way Sanji spins and produces his Diablo leg. Pretty sure the manga had electricity at impact as well but it just seems too weird of a coincidence for the move to have Thor in it when Thor's hammer is obviously associated with thunder, electricity, etc. As for Red Hawk, twisting his arm to produce enough friction sounds a bit too far-fetched to me especially to generate that level of friction. Of course Sanji doesn't even spin anymore to activate Diable Jambe post skip so I can't exactly say with 100% certainty that you're wrong. |
| Red Hawk can only be done in Gear Second and it manipulating the friction caused by his punching speed, he did draw his hand as long as he can and pull it with amazing speed that causing the friction with the air to make some temporary fire. it's the same thing like Gai did with Asa Kujaku. this is anime-wise explanation not some scientific one coz there's no way people can burn his hand just using friction. Humza_96 said: Also what happens when you set rubber on fire? Doesn't it melt? he did cover his hand with BH so it's probably alright. |
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| I also believe it's sort of the same with Sanji's Diable Jambe. But in Luffy's case, it's like a rocket. (Or when the spaceship is landing on earth, like I saw in Gravity or Uchuu Kyoudai) Since he used his Armament Haki, his hand turned into metal and then traveled very fast for a very short period of time, causing the metal to be heated enough to make fire... I'M NOT SURE THOUGH, SORRY I'M NO GOOD IN PHYSICS AND THIS KIND OF STUFF :)))))))))) |
| I cant remember the specifics cause I read it about two years but it has something to do with vulcanization. |
Sol_Ou said: I cant remember the specifics cause I read it about two years but it has something to do with vulcanization. Oh. Thank you! :) |
Sol_Ou said: I cant remember the specifics cause I read it about two years but it has something to do with vulcanization. Actually vulcanization has probably nothing to do with this stuff unless Oda says so. People assumed Luffy hardened through armament haki+vulcanization(chemical process for hardening rubbers or something to that extent) but really later we see it's just a property of armament haki(I think we saw smoker and vergo use it on Punk Hazard). |
| I think Red Hawk shares the same concept with Gomu Gomu no Cannon In the special, before Luffy uses his Red Hawk, he initiated a Gatling Gun beforehand. So I came to a conclusion that Gatling is to heat his hands via highspeed movement in the air (friction); he's a rubber and Haki gives him a metal coating or something, after all. It's just like Cannon. If he use Gomu Gomu no Bazooka after a Gatling, it is called Cannon. So yeah, I think it's that. |
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