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Feb 13, 2018 2:31 PM

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elsa16 said:
It's seems like season 3 will officially be announced on November 25th


And the chapter is out ^^


Elsa whered you hear that season 3 will be announced?

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Travee_Wavvee said:
elsa16 said:
It's seems like season 3 will officially be announced on November 25th


And the chapter is out ^^


Elsa whered you hear that season 3 will be announced?



There was tweets about a seiyuu who said : the anime is not over, and it's has been "confirmed" on animenewsnetwork.com

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2018-02-12/ryota-ohsaka-ace-of-diamond-anime-is-not-over-will-continue/.127672

For the date it was from the tweets since the all star game will be held on November 25th
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Thanks @CG and the team over at TDX for the chapter.

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In this chapter, there are two instances that intrigue me. First, Mei calls back a situation where Eijun takes part in it. He's a friend of Miyuki i dare say, must have lots of memories to call back but what? He chose something Eijun plays a role as much as Miyuki. Besides that, maybe recently, Inajitsu could have been informed about Seido's recent games with powerhouses. This'd motivate Mei more. He would understand the real ace is coming and should take everything they got. As for the second, the last page. Miyuki was at loss for words. That says a lot about their rivalry i guess. Miyuki should be realizing already that Mei and his team is second to none. He probably knows but not embraces it. Just like the issue of the Ace pitcher of Seidou-high. But he will eventually and it's gonna be lit!


Yeah, Mei's recollection seems to be another Ace flag for Sawamura. What was the strongest memory Mei has of the game against seidou? Is it K'ing Miyuki or K'ing Furuya? Nope its getting K'd by some random kid on three pitches. Mei was the first "Ace" to really recognize Sawamura as an equal competitor, which speaks volumes. Mei doesn't really consider anyone to be his equal, I mean the dude's nickname is the Tyrant on the Mound. Mei said that he has already beaten Furuya, but hasn't said anything about beating Sawamura (I mean technically he was the winning pitcher in the summer final where Sawamura was the losing pitcher, but he has never said that). Inajitsu was one of the first teams that saw, and sees, Sawamura as a pitcher to be wary of, and more importantly attempted to take precautions against him with the "Ty Cobb" Bat to try and avoid the problems of his "moving Fastball" (which is actually a power Changeup). Mei I think feels that Sawamura is sneaking up on him to steal his throne, not only as the best pitcher in Tokyo, but also as the best Southpaw in Japan. Miyuki does know objectively how good Mei is, this is the first time in nearly a year that he is seeing it up close and personal.

also @elsa16:
I don't want to put too much stake in what Ryota said, I don't want to be disappointed if nothing happens. Last time they did something like this it was announced that there was nothing more than a stage drama. Hopefully we do get season 3 but I'm not holding my breath. Even if we get it, it won't be out until June of next year.

On a some what similar note because Pitchers and Catchers have reported today!
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Mei's monstrous ego and confidence goes with his skill and capabilities as a dominating pitcher. It's that towering ego that there's still a hint of suspect temper and durability. That's why Inajitsu's catcher has to distract and calm him down during the games of the recent competition that they won. It'll take a gutsy and skillful batter to be patient enough to rile him up. Step up, Haruchi - there's been a long term build-up and training of his batting capability in the background to deal with it.
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@Rokrish I know I can be something else that why I said "it seems"
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It seems the claim for the S3 announcement is legit and further details will be announced indeed in the All Star Game Event in November. I saw a Twitter post that Ohsaka Ryohta (Eijun) mentioned that Uchida Yuuma (Koushuu's VA) will participate in a special surprise announcement for the broadcast decision of S3.

I personally believe that it can be true, I mean this is getting news for just a comment made by the VA, otherwise they'll just stop it from circulating. If they announced something, I'm thinking summer or Fall of 2019 will be the air date...maybe the series will have more than 200 chapters by then already. Although the summer won't be covered fully, they can just make it more seasonal.
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elsa16 said:
@Rokrish I know I can be something else that why I said "it seems"

Sorry If I came off a bit standoff-ish or demeaning, it wasn't my intention to come off that way. I honestly do hope it comes out and we get an announcement by the end of the year. Then again Ryota seems to have good info on the series (he basically convinced Terajima to keep writing).

Loyalty06 said:
It seems the claim for the S3 announcement is legit and further details will be announced indeed in the All Star Game Event in November. I saw a Twitter post that Ohsaka Ryohta (Eijun) mentioned that Uchida Yuuma (Koushuu's VA) will participate in a special surprise announcement for the broadcast decision of S3.

I personally believe that it can be true, I mean this is getting news for just a comment made by the VA, otherwise they'll just stop it from circulating. If they announced something, I'm thinking summer or Fall of 2019 will be the air date...maybe the series will have more than 200 chapters by then already. Although the summer won't be covered fully, they can just make it more seasonal.


Ok if thats come out then we are almost certainly getting season 3/ season 1 Act II. The only reason that Okamura's VA would be brought in is if they are going for a new season announcement. If they do they will almost certainly announce the season for the Summer of Next year, so it can correspond with the Koshien, and get the ratings bump from it. Also by that point we will probably be at 150-175 Chapters. I would prefer it if they have a series of shorter seasons, so that Terajima can build up a buffer instead of 1 50+ episode season. If we do get Season 3 I want to see that Mariano Rivera-esque Cutter that sawamura throws animated, and Conrads slider as well.
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RoKrish said:

Sorry If I came off a bit standoff-ish or demeaning, it wasn't my intention to come off that way. I honestly do hope it comes out and we get an announcement by the end of the year. Then again Ryota seems to have good info on the series (he basically convinced Terajima to keep writing).


No problem, I just saw that I forgot words in my previous answers : what I meant was I understand what you said and I agree that with I said it seems like and not : it will be officially announced.
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leongsh said:
Mei's monstrous ego and confidence goes with his skill and capabilities as a dominating pitcher. It's that towering ego that there's still a hint of suspect temper and durability. That's why Inajitsu's catcher has to distract and calm him down during the games of the recent competition that they won. It'll take a gutsy and skillful batter to be patient enough to rile him up. Step up, Haruchi - there's been a long term build-up and training of his batting capability in the background to deal with it.

Mei's only real weakness is that batters can get to him if they are patient enough. That's why I have been stressing the importance of plate discipline in my posts on hitting. Haruichi has been really good at developing it, other guys, like Kanemaru, Zono, and Kuramochi need to get better at developing it. Seidou has the batting power to really get at Mei and make him work for every out, but the way that they hit is way too aggressive. They need to work the count especially against pitchers like Amahisa, Mei and Hongou, who have really good pitches, but are still perfectly capable of giving up hits when they get tired. Simply by upping their pitch counts they can drag them down. Especially in Amahisa's case and Mei's case, their #2 and #3 pitchers are not as good as Seidou's #2 or #3 pitchers and since Sawamura is ridiculously efficient, he may still be pitching after they get ko'd. For Seidou to win they need to make a battle against any of the top pitchers a battle of attrition and drag them off the mound, and the easiest way to do that is to work the count and force the other pitchers to throw a whole bunch of pitches. Attack fastballs in the zone, leave breaking balls alone until you get to a two strike count.
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I was just sure that there’s no way Furuya would have a sub 3 ERA because he had scored over 4 for his ERA at least on 2-3 occasions so I had to go back and check.

To interpret the results again in their first year Summer, Kawakami and Sawamura stats suffered because they were relief pitcher and they were sent into the game with runners on bases or under situations that require big play (which makes me want to go over the stats again in case they comes to the mound with runner on base, it would be counted as the preceding pitcher’s run) so anyway their stats suffer a bit due to lower innings despite both have never at any point lost more runs than Furuya in an official Tournament.

Furuya’s first year ERA looked better than what we anticipated because at one point, specifically before he got the Ace No, he pitched a couple of good games (something like 4 games) where he went like 6-7 innings per game without losing any runs which helped got him fhs Ace No and better stats. Although aside from the game against Yakushi, those opponents arguably aren’t no where as good as what they’re playing against in Act 2 and of course to prove that, we know how much worse Furuya did in the official Fall Tourney which shows the obvious difference between the level of the competitions as well as Furuya’s inconsistency.

As for Kawakami, he has gotten much better since Act 2 where he’s been starting quite a few games and have been doing better than Furuya results wise so good job to him.

There’s really nothing else to add to Sawamura’s ERA as he’s the only pitcher in the team that has consistently able to get his ERA on a downward trend (aside from the Senbatsu which was an outlier anyway because he only got 2 innings).

This is a bit late, but I was a bit busy with some other stuff so I wanted to wait until I had finished this to post this kind of long post.

Another way to interpret this is that Sawamura, even before he became the monstrous entity that he is now, was almost always used in a high leverage situations or against significantly better teams, which significantly dampened his stats, as he couldn't face the "easier" teams because Furuya never got to a point in which Sawamura was needed against them. As a result he never had the opportunity to take the free outs and clean innings that Furuya started. Furuya also pitched more innings period over that time, a thing that helps normalize the ERA. If you pitch 100 innings and give up 30 runs thats an ERA of 2.70, the same number of runs over 110 innings is an ERA of 2.35. thats nearly a half point swing for just 10 more innings. If we factor in the fact that Sawamura is often pitching against the best hitters of a team, and lefties (who generally have a slightly higher batting average as they are a step closer to first) it becomes quite clear that his low innings count, higher batting averages of the batters that face him have, and the fact that he had to do this in high leverage situation often after more experienced pitchers had been pulled, inflated his ERA.
The fact that for virtually the entire first year no one bother to teach him how to throw an offspeed pitch, or how to throw outside, and that for a quarter of the year he was sidelined by Yips, the fact that he is only .54 behind Furuya, who had an offspeed pitch, was healthy for the vast majority of the year, and had more innings at the end of Act I, is kind of ridiculous. If anything that should have told Ochiai and Kataoka that this kid is something special. The next year happens and what do we get? a guy who just shuts down offenses. I mean this has either been a ridiculously long con on the part of Terajima or he's just straight up being capricious. I lean towards the latter personally.

On a real life note:
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Yeah I agree with what you said, especially the explanation on how different the ERA would look with just a couple of free innings under the belt should be easy for less familiar fans to understand (which Furuya tends to get in his first year because every team he faces all literally went like "Whoa, how on earth can we hit from him, let's just go in and whiplash for like 3-4 innings before we work the count and get on base", even freaking Inajitsu does it for some stupid reasons).

On another point, the thign with Mei is this. He may looks invincible now, but he ain't. Last year, up until the Final of the Summer Tourney he didn't lose any run at all and then he gave up 4-5 runs alone in the Final against Seidou. Against Teitou in the SF of the Spring Tourney, he only lost a run to Inui (which was a HR). These shows that sometimes, Mei has a waver in his concentration or due to other factors which I'll get into, that MAY cost him a few runs here and there. As an elite pitcher by all accounts, this concentration flux isn't major and he can immediately get back into his groove but it is in fact one of the potential chink in his armor; on the other hand, Hongou showed no such inconsistency in his concentration and he was able to maintain his intesity all throughout his (almost perfect game shutout) match against Seidou which is a whole new level we have never seen before in any other pitcher including Mei and Sawamura so I tend to lean on the side that support Hongou as the better pitcher than even Mei but that's a discussion for another day. Now on to Mei's other potential problem. If we pay attention to Mei's duel with Raichi. Mei set him up with an early Changeup and then proceeds to strike him out 3 times with fastball and note that his fastball usage against Raichi increased as the match went on. What we can take away from this is Mei's fixation on the fastball still remains the same despite the quality improvements in his other pitches or his fixation on a certain kind of pitcher against a certain kind of batter. If Mei underestimate an opponent, he'll feed them fastball to satisfy his "I'm the boss" ego like Raichi, against other opponents, he may follow a "very predictable pattern" as well which if Seidou pay attention, it would help them nail him down when they needs it. For instance, against Haruichi, Mei will be looking to break his bat so he'll definitely looking to pitch that Slider to jam him when he's ahead; against Miyuki, he'll definitely looking to show that Changeup to Miyuki to set up his fastball in the later game; against Mochi, he'll probably try to shut him out by force with fastball. Against Zono, we can expect him to throw breaking pitches only when he's ahead or at full count. If we go back to the Final, the only 2 batters in Seidou that could consistently threaten Mei was Tetsu and surprisingly Jun. Jun is sort of a junk ball batter so he could hit all sort of weird bait pitch Mei throws at him and annoys the hell out of Mei while Tetsu was the only one who could take Mei to full count in the most important moment. Tetsu's ability to watch the ball was unrivalled in that match and he made Mei's flustered to the point the battery was very predictable in the end, throwing the Changeup for the last pitch which Tetsu beautifully struck. So if Seidou's batter can take Mei to full count, he'll become predictable like any other because Mei isn't exactly a calm & collected pitcher either and he'll fall into his own mental trap, which will help the batter narrow down Mei's pitches much more easily. Although it needs to be said that predicting Mei's pitches may be easy and they can almost get up to 100% on their pitch prediction at full count, being able to hit what he actually throws is another matter altogether and right now in Seidou, I can only trust Haruichi to be able to deliver in such moment. Shirasu have been doing image training like Tetsu as well so I also have high hopes that he'll be able to force Mei into full-count situation more often than most to pressure him. Miyuki's job is to hit everything else beside the Changeup when he has the chance because from the look of his face in this chapter, he's already lost to that pitch when Mei is going to use it against him in the Final.
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Yeah I agree with what you said, especially the explanation on how different the ERA would look with just a couple of free innings under the belt should be easy for less familiar fans to understand (which Furuya tends to get in his first year because every team he faces all literally went like "Whoa, how on earth can we hit from him, let's just go in and whiplash for like 3-4 innings before we work the count and get on base", even freaking Inajitsu does it for some stupid reasons).

On another point, the thign with Mei is this. He may looks invincible now, but he ain't. Last year, up until the Final of the Summer Tourney he didn't lose any run at all and then he gave up 4-5 runs alone in the Final against Seidou. Against Teitou in the SF of the Spring Tourney, he only lost a run to Inui (which was a HR). These shows that sometimes, Mei has a waver in his concentration or due to other factors which I'll get into, that MAY cost him a few runs here and there. As an elite pitcher by all accounts, this concentration flux isn't major and he can immediately get back into his groove but it is in fact one of the potential chink in his armor; on the other hand, Hongou showed no such inconsistency in his concentration and he was able to maintain his intesity all throughout his (almost perfect game shutout) match against Seidou which is a whole new level we have never seen before in any other pitcher including Mei and Sawamura so I tend to lean on the side that support Hongou as the better pitcher than even Mei but that's a discussion for another day. Now on to Mei's other potential problem. If we pay attention to Mei's duel with Raichi. Mei set him up with an early Changeup and then proceeds to strike him out 3 times with fastball and note that his fastball usage against Raichi increased as the match went on. What we can take away from this is Mei's fixation on the fastball still remains the same despite the quality improvements in his other pitches or his fixation on a certain kind of pitcher against a certain kind of batter. If Mei underestimate an opponent, he'll feed them fastball to satisfy his "I'm the boss" ego like Raichi, against other opponents, he may follow a "very predictable pattern" as well which if Seidou pay attention, it would help them nail him down when they needs it. For instance, against Haruichi, Mei will be looking to break his bat so he'll definitely looking to pitch that Slider to jam him when he's ahead; against Miyuki, he'll definitely looking to show that Changeup to Miyuki to set up his fastball in the later game; against Mochi, he'll probably try to shut him out by force with fastball. Against Zono, we can expect him to throw breaking pitches only when he's ahead or at full count. If we go back to the Final, the only 2 batters in Seidou that could consistently threaten Mei was Tetsu and surprisingly Jun. Jun is sort of a junk ball batter so he could hit all sort of weird bait pitch Mei throws at him and annoys the hell out of Mei while Tetsu was the only one who could take Mei to full count in the most important moment. Tetsu's ability to watch the ball was unrivalled in that match and he made Mei's flustered to the point the battery was very predictable in the end, throwing the Changeup for the last pitch which Tetsu beautifully struck. So if Seidou's batter can take Mei to full count, he'll become predictable like any other because Mei isn't exactly a calm & collected pitcher either and he'll fall into his own mental trap, which will help the batter narrow down Mei's pitches much more easily. Although it needs to be said that predicting Mei's pitches may be easy and they can almost get up to 100% on their pitch prediction at full count, being able to hit what he actually throws is another matter altogether and right now in Seidou, I can only trust Haruichi to be able to deliver in such moment. Asou have been doing image training like Tetsu as well so I also have high hopes that he'll be able to force Mei into full-count situation more often than most to pressure him. Miyuki's job is to hit everything else beside the Changeup when he has the chance because from the look of his face in this chapter, he's already lost to that pitch when Mei is going to use it against him in the Final.

Good read as always but I'm pretty sure it was shirasu who was doing the image training.
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Good read as always but I'm pretty sure it was shirasu who was doing the image training.

Brain melt down. Head thinks Shirasu, hands type Asou lol
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Think see that terajima be going to make that mei injure itself to make progress akamatsu
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Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.
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Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.


You're not the only one, this usa-japan game is not really relevant for the story. I like Mei but we've already saw him multiple times.
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Gundens said:
Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.


No you ain’t. I have never been interested in this game at all, which is why I was too lazy to even bother translating it this week. A bunch of irrelevant characters from US playinng with the best characters from Japan just to prove how strong these guys are when they already needs no introduction. Mei x Miyuki battery? Yeah big deal. If the US team manages to own Mei hitting a coulle HR off of him in the last inning then maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised. Cos’ who cares if you’re Mei, we’re freaking ‘Murica here, move over.

That’s how I feel about this game.
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I feel like this is almost a matchup in the favor of Japan, considering Mei is the second best pitcher in the country compared to who knows randy Johnson’s rank? But maybe the US 10th or 20th best Hs pitcher is meis level considering a lot of HS pitchers get drafted int the MLB draft.
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I feel like this is almost a matchup in the favor of Japan, considering Mei is the second best pitcher in the country compared to who knows randy Johnson’s rank? But maybe the US 10th or 20th best Hs pitcher is meis level considering a lot of HS pitchers get drafted int the MLB draft.


Admittedly Johnson didn't have a break out until he went pro and usually, in Japan, the best high school pitchers tend to be early bloomers like Mei, like Furuya, Hongou, etc. while their pro-career may not be as illustrous as their former high school career so that may be a factor in this match up.

On the other hand, on a seriously side-track note

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I meant the randy Johnson clone, how he would rank with US high schoolers. But if you meant using high school randy Johnson as an example that would make sense considering only the top HS baseball players are well known. While the good players on Koshien teams are known
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Gundens said:
I meant the randy Johnson clone, how he would rank with US high schoolers. But if you meant using high school randy Johnson as an example that would make sense considering only the top HS baseball players are well known. While the good players on Koshien teams are known


That’s exactly what I meant
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Yeah I agree with what you said, especially the explanation on how different the ERA would look with just a couple of free innings under the belt should be easy for less familiar fans to understand (which Furuya tends to get in his first year because every team he faces all literally went like "Whoa, how on earth can we hit from him, let's just go in and whiplash for like 3-4 innings before we work the count and get on base", even freaking Inajitsu does it for some stupid reasons).

On another point, the thign with Mei is this. He may looks invincible now, but he ain't. Last year, up until the Final of the Summer Tourney he didn't lose any run at all and then he gave up 4-5 runs alone in the Final against Seidou. Against Teitou in the SF of the Spring Tourney, he only lost a run to Inui (which was a HR). These shows that sometimes, Mei has a waver in his concentration or due to other factors which I'll get into, that MAY cost him a few runs here and there. As an elite pitcher by all accounts, this concentration flux isn't major and he can immediately get back into his groove but it is in fact one of the potential chink in his armor; on the other hand, Hongou showed no such inconsistency in his concentration and he was able to maintain his intesity all throughout his (almost perfect game shutout) match against Seidou which is a whole new level we have never seen before in any other pitcher including Mei and Sawamura so I tend to lean on the side that support Hongou as the better pitcher than even Mei but that's a discussion for another day. Now on to Mei's other potential problem. If we pay attention to Mei's duel with Raichi. Mei set him up with an early Changeup and then proceeds to strike him out 3 times with fastball and note that his fastball usage against Raichi increased as the match went on. What we can take away from this is Mei's fixation on the fastball still remains the same despite the quality improvements in his other pitches or his fixation on a certain kind of pitcher against a certain kind of batter. If Mei underestimate an opponent, he'll feed them fastball to satisfy his "I'm the boss" ego like Raichi, against other opponents, he may follow a "very predictable pattern" as well which if Seidou pay attention, it would help them nail him down when they needs it. For instance, against Haruichi, Mei will be looking to break his bat so he'll definitely looking to pitch that Slider to jam him when he's ahead; against Miyuki, he'll definitely looking to show that Changeup to Miyuki to set up his fastball in the later game; against Mochi, he'll probably try to shut him out by force with fastball. Against Zono, we can expect him to throw breaking pitches only when he's ahead or at full count. If we go back to the Final, the only 2 batters in Seidou that could consistently threaten Mei was Tetsu and surprisingly Jun. Jun is sort of a junk ball batter so he could hit all sort of weird bait pitch Mei throws at him and annoys the hell out of Mei while Tetsu was the only one who could take Mei to full count in the most important moment. Tetsu's ability to watch the ball was unrivalled in that match and he made Mei's flustered to the point the battery was very predictable in the end, throwing the Changeup for the last pitch which Tetsu beautifully struck. So if Seidou's batter can take Mei to full count, he'll become predictable like any other because Mei isn't exactly a calm & collected pitcher either and he'll fall into his own mental trap, which will help the batter narrow down Mei's pitches much more easily. Although it needs to be said that predicting Mei's pitches may be easy and they can almost get up to 100% on their pitch prediction at full count, being able to hit what he actually throws is another matter altogether and right now in Seidou, I can only trust Haruichi to be able to deliver in such moment. Asou have been doing image training like Tetsu as well so I also have high hopes that he'll be able to force Mei into full-count situation more often than most to pressure him. Miyuki's job is to hit everything else beside the Changeup when he has the chance because from the look of his face in this chapter, he's already lost to that pitch when Mei is going to use it against him in the Final.


Sorry it took kind of long for me to get back to this post. I was actually at my Universities home opener for baseball, and didn't get a chance to open it up until fairly recently. (we won a doubleheader!)

Inui is tbf one of the best batters in the series, he's had XBH's against Sawamura (albeit this was back when he had yips), Furuya, and Mei (he hasn't faced Amahisa or Hongou yet but he has been shown to be capable of hitting). I can sort of agree that Hongou can maintain his intensity in big games, like against Seidou, but Mei almost no-hit perfecto'd a team last summer if his coach didn't hook him after 6 innings. That said Raichi was really off, he has been struggling to get back into the groove, and has not been the same player since the end of the Senbatsu, barring that one huge dinger. That said working the count and being patient seems to almost be rocket science for these kids. Its as if the only thing they want to do is tonk the the ball as hard as they can. You can only do that if you get walked a lot (for all the three true outcome crap Aaron Judge rightfully got last year, at least was walking like all of the time- an obp 400+ as a testament to that- and still actively hitting the ball) or you make solid contact a lot (like Altuve did) so even if you start swinging for power you can still make sure that you get on base with a safe hit. Raichi actually used to be kind of decent at that, but he hasn't been as successful recently because of his bad run of form. As for your statements for each batter the only thing I would say differently is that Mei is the type of dude who would want to throw heaters to Zono, because he thinks that he is not a threat, and the only reason I say this is because he did the exact same thing to Masuko, and if it were not for the fact that Carlos turned into Willy Mays, then Masuko would have lit him up big time in that game with two dingers with RISP.
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Gundens said:
Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.


No you ain’t. I have never been interested in this game at all, which is why I was too lazy to even bother translating it this week. A bunch of irrelevant characters from US playinng with the best characters from Japan just to prove how strong these guys are when they already needs no introduction. Mei x Miyuki battery? Yeah big deal. If the US team manages to own Mei hitting a coulle HR off of him in the last inning then maybe I’ll be pleasantly surprised. Cos’ who cares if you’re Mei, we’re freaking ‘Murica here, move over.

That’s how I feel about this game.


Lets also not forget that this isn't the real American team (the u-19 national team) this a development academy team, good but not the sole purveyor of all talent in the country. Clayton Kershaw's clone, for example, would not have been on this team, since growing up he wasn't exactly poor (he grew up in one of the richest suburbs in the city of Dallas) or in need of going to a special academy because of some other reason. The american team seems to have been nerfed hard, as they don't seem to be even trying to work the count against Mei. I would not be surprised though if in the next innings the Americans begin to adjust and come out and smack a few against him.


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Gundens said:
I feel like this is almost a matchup in the favor of Japan, considering Mei is the second best pitcher in the country compared to who knows randy Johnson’s rank? But maybe the US 10th or 20th best Hs pitcher is meis level considering a lot of HS pitchers get drafted int the MLB draft.


Admittedly Johnson didn't have a break out until he went pro and usually, in Japan, the best high school pitchers tend to be early bloomers like Mei, like Furuya, Hongou, etc. while their pro-career may not be as illustrous as their former high school career so that may be a factor in this match up.

On the other hand, on a seriously side-track note



Johnson didn't even really break out until he was in late 20's. He was very good for Seattle, but wasn't truly elite until after he left (this reminds me of the sub-reddit, formerM's, where they look at former Mariners players whom went on to have success elsewhere after leaving the Mariners). He then summoned god mode after he turned 30. These guys are no doubt some of the best in the US, but they aren't necessarily the best (look at Mike Trout for example, or Buster Posey, whom were well thought of, but sort of underrated even in their draft class out of High school).

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It's not just that he gives up less walks than Furuya, he just doesn't let base runners on base period. As for Ochai standing in the batters box, that just isn't his style, he's a facts coach, and despite his faults, he makes his decisions based on stats. If you look back at the Data, you can see that compared to Nori or Furuya, Sawamura's ERA during his first year was pretty bad (4.06 vs 3.25 and 3.52 respectively) the big problem with ERA is that you can't evaluate a Reliever that well based on ERA (alone a big ERA is always bad). Nori for example pitches almost exclusively in Relief, but is a much better pitcher than his 2.84 ERA shows, because he pitches fewer innings, as he is a relief pitcher. Sawamura's 4.06 comes as he was a high leverage relief pitcher, being called upon to stop the best hitters on the other team, and was as such more likely to give up runs and pitch in fewer innings. I'm not trying to absolve Ochai, he did try to screw with a Kids mechanics to try and get him to quit (scummy move all-round), I am just trying to explain why he favored Furuya initially. That said, Ochai has seen Sawamura pitch up close and personal, we know this from when he was shown watching Sawamura try and learn breaking pitches, and from when he sits in the bullpen and works with the pitchers. He now knows exactly how good he is.


Wow, Sawamura ERA is that bad during the 1st year? No wonder everyone acknowledges Furuya more than Sawamura.

Yup, when Ochiai teach Sawamura changeup, he knows the risk of breaking sawamura's form, and yet he teaches him. not becoz wanting to help him. And as you said, now I remember he did try to teach Sawamura slider and curve during winter season. and he seems touched(?) by Kataoka's words about not sacrificing the team becoz of Furuya. He is a new man now, I guess?

Loyalty06 said:
It seems the claim for the S3 announcement is legit and further details will be announced indeed in the All Star Game Event in November. I saw a Twitter post that Ohsaka Ryohta (Eijun) mentioned that Uchida Yuuma (Koushuu's VA) will participate in a special surprise announcement for the broadcast decision of S3.

I personally believe that it can be true, I mean this is getting news for just a comment made by the VA, otherwise they'll just stop it from circulating. If they announced something, I'm thinking summer or Fall of 2019 will be the air date...maybe the series will have more than 200 chapters by then already. Although the summer won't be covered fully, they can just make it more seasonal.


WHHHAATTTT?? YESSS~! This really makes my dayy. I have already given up for Season 3, I hope it could cover until the latest chapter (during that time) and I absolutely sure that ichidai sankou and hakuryuu match will be my fav ep ever. O(≧∇≦)O

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Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.


Nope, I don't care too, I don't know whether this match is for making Mei as untouchable-ace-hype or just an advertisement on how Sawamura might be getting invited to Jap-USA match next time?

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Think see that terajima be going to make that mei injure itself to make progress akamatsu


That is quite impossible in my opinion, Seidou (especially miyuki and Sawamura, with his yips and everything) have been prepared to fight with Mei since S1, I don't think Terajima gonna make Mei getting injured or something. but I believe that akamatsu gonna make progress, only it will be after Mei is retired.
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Gundens said:
Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.

I'm with you in this.
i don't care about this Terajima fan service for 2 of his fav characthers. The perfect pitcher and the perfect catcher.
Hoping this match will be over with the next chapter, but i don't really believe it. more likely it will take 4 or 5 chapters (sadly).
About a third season, if they follow the manga, i could skip all the fall arc, but Terajima should give the Ace number to Sawamura in this 3rd season, so it will be enough for me to see it
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Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.
I absolutely agree with you
They look like filler chapters to delay the choice of the ace
I think that soon we'll see Miyuki showing off
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Gundens said:
Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.


i don't even think that there is anyone interested in this match. we already saw all those japanese player.
and i am pretty sure the murica team is only this one time thing and won't appear again.
tho, i guess some people happy that shunshin can play there.
but overall, i would rather they skip it and get on with seido's already.
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Gundens said:
Am I the only one who doesn’t care about seeing US and Japan with Mei becoming OP to hype up the final boss fight for summer? We already know he is good. I want to see Yui and Okumura handle Furuya and Sawamura and see Seidous offense.


i don't even think that there is anyone interested in this match. we already saw all those japanese player.
and i am pretty sure the murica team is only this one time thing and won't appear again.
tho, i guess some people happy that shunshin can play there.
but overall, i would rather they skip it and get on with seido's already.


yah, terajima has a fetish for perfect characters, so he need sometimes to vent it.
His previous manga flopped exactly because the protagonist was op (and not in a good way like saitama)
it was called giant steps, basically small steps with an op protagonist. People got bored of it REALLY fast
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It's not just that he gives up less walks than Furuya, he just doesn't let base runners on base period. As for Ochai standing in the batters box, that just isn't his style, he's a facts coach, and despite his faults, he makes his decisions based on stats. If you look back at the Data, you can see that compared to Nori or Furuya, Sawamura's ERA during his first year was pretty bad (4.06 vs 3.25 and 3.52 respectively) the big problem with ERA is that you can't evaluate a Reliever that well based on ERA (alone a big ERA is always bad). Nori for example pitches almost exclusively in Relief, but is a much better pitcher than his 2.84 ERA shows, because he pitches fewer innings, as he is a relief pitcher. Sawamura's 4.06 comes as he was a high leverage relief pitcher, being called upon to stop the best hitters on the other team, and was as such more likely to give up runs and pitch in fewer innings. I'm not trying to absolve Ochai, he did try to screw with a Kids mechanics to try and get him to quit (scummy move all-round), I am just trying to explain why he favored Furuya initially. That said, Ochai has seen Sawamura pitch up close and personal, we know this from when he was shown watching Sawamura try and learn breaking pitches, and from when he sits in the bullpen and works with the pitchers. He now knows exactly how good he is.


Wow, Sawamura ERA is that bad during the 1st year? No wonder everyone acknowledges Furuya more than Sawamura.

Yup, when Ochiai teach Sawamura changeup, he knows the risk of breaking sawamura's form, and yet he teaches him. not becoz wanting to help him. And as you said, now I remember he did try to teach Sawamura slider and curve during winter season. and he seems touched(?) by Kataoka's words about not sacrificing the team becoz of Furuya. He is a new man now, I guess?

Euclide3 said:
Think see that terajima be going to make that mei injure itself to make progress akamatsu


That is quite impossible in my opinion, Seidou (especially miyuki and Sawamura, with his yips and everything) have been prepared to fight with Mei since S1, I don't think Terajima gonna make Mei getting injured or something. but I believe that akamatsu gonna make progress, only it will be after Mei is retired.


Sawamura's ERA was pretty bad at the start of his first year. The reason is actually pretty reasonable. He didn't pitch all that many innings, didn't have anything other than a power change and a four-seamer (not bad, but certainly not good) and didn't have great velocity to cover the fact that he didn't have an offspeed pitch. Heck even guys like Aldoris Chapman (fastest officially measured Pitcher) and Nolan Ryan (fastest ever at 108 MPH) have offspeed and breaking pitches (slider and Changeup for Chapman, and a Curveball for Ryan) which Sawamura didn't really have, beyond a cutter which he only had for two games. You can actually see the effect of having just one offspeed pitch had on him, his ERA in the fall (where most of his innings took place after he developed a traditional, non-power, changeup) is a quite frankly somewhat ludicrous 1.82. That said his peripheral statistics, such as groundball rate, (high) Infield flyball rate, (high) BAA (batting average against) (low), BB/9 (walks given up over 9 innings) (low), and his H/9 (hits given up over 9 innings) (low), all point to the idea that he is a very good pitcher even with out a breaking or offspeed pitch. Ochiai only looked at one statistic before coming to his conclusion that Sawamura was trash and beginning to wreck his form. The first thing that he did was to try and get him to change his form. The reason that I, @GDV, and Miyuki want Sawamura to get a curveball (or in Miyuki's case a true breaking ball) is that he can really mess with players especially if he gets a big 12-6 hook that just drops down five feet. The pitcher that @GDV compares him to Kershaw has the best 12-6 curveball in the game (here's what it looks like with commentary from the legendary Vin Scully https://youtu.be/Ja7X4lvXAKM), if Sawamura develops a curve even somewhat as good as that one he may be the best pitcher in series.

Akamatsu is a pitcher for the future, really more of a rival for the next year, and a threat more so for Asada and Kuki in terms of pitching. Mei is literally Sawamura's 2nd greatest rival (Furuya is technically his greatest rival according to Terajima).

Also has anyone seen if the raws are out yet?
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yah, terajima has a fetish for perfect characters, so he need sometimes to vent it.
His previous manga flopped exactly because the protagonist was op (and not in a good way like saitama)
it was called giant steps, basically small steps with an op protagonist. People got bored of it REALLY fast


What happened in that manga? what does it means "the protagonist was op"? Does it means he is already awesome in the beginning, something like Saitama but not in a good way(?)

@RoKrish
Yup, he only used mostly fastball in this first year, breaking ball really makes a difference. If curveball gonna makes Sawamura better than before, then, I hope he will learn it, same as Miyuki, you and @GDV. if during match with Hongou, he will show the ability to pitch curveball, I'm gonna get goosebumpss~!
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Zer0Pilot said:

yah, terajima has a fetish for perfect characters, so he need sometimes to vent it.
His previous manga flopped exactly because the protagonist was op (and not in a good way like saitama)
it was called giant steps, basically small steps with an op protagonist. People got bored of it REALLY fast


What happened in that manga? what does it means "the protagonist was op"? Does it means he is already awesome in the beginning, something like Saitama but not in a good way(?)
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Yes op means over power
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What happened in that manga? what does it means "the protagonist was op"? Does it means he is already awesome in the beginning, something like Saitama but not in a good way(?)
!
Yes op means over power


Hahahaha, I really thought op stands for operation.thanks for the ups ( ゚▽゚)/
No wonder Dia no Ace really popular, I meant if somehow this is not about Sawamura, but about Furuya... (꒪⌓꒪)
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What happened in that manga? what does it means "the protagonist was op"? Does it means he is already awesome in the beginning, something like Saitama but not in a good way(?)


It means that he was Over Powered, and not in a good way. He was just naturally talented and automatically skilled in the sport(tennis), due to "Advanced Body Memory"(basically his body remembers everything). Worst of all he was so OP that as a grade schooler he beat a pro player(after not much time playing the sport), and 5 years later after not playing any tennis, he goes on to beat another pro player. So yeah, he's was extremely OP, and it's why many didn't enjoy the manga.
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No raws of spoilers yet at this time. Most likely due to Lunar New Year in China and Asian countries so those spoilers providers are probably in party mode. We probably have to wait for the RAWs to come out on Wednesday at this rate.

And yes, the reason why I’m such a big proponent of the Curveball is because it will be a pitch Sawamura can throw to any batter, left or right and if he control it properly, will be able to land him a looking strike more reliably than the Changeup. The Curveball is also a much better option than the Slider at full count because it’s less prone to cause passed ball, especially sloppy Slurves like Furuya has. With 2 solid off-speed offerings that he can pitch high (Curveball) and low (Changeup), the deception and variety he can combine with his fastballs: 4-seam, 2-seam, Cutter will take him to another level and somewhat closer to Maddux’s repertoire which is to possess all the pitches needed to trouble any type of batter he faces. Off-speed for power batter, fastballs in and out for contact hitter, changeup away to those that sits on high fastball, Curveball for looking strikes against those that throw away high pitches. In short, good luck batters if Sawamura learns the Curveball, they’ll desperately need it.
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It means that he was Over Powered, and not in a good way. He was just naturally talented and automatically skilled in the sport(tennis), due to "Advanced Body Memory"(basically his body remembers everything). Worst of all he was so OP that as a grade schooler he beat a pro player(after not much time playing the sport), and 5 years later after not playing any tennis, he goes on to beat another pro player. So yeah, he's was extremely OP, and it's why many didn't enjoy the manga.


Which is why it got old really quickly. Tennis is a difficult sport, MUCH more so than baseball because you have so many things to learn as a player because it’s mostly an individual sport and when you’re on the court, coaches can’t even give you advices or anything, you have to manage your own technique, your own mentality and nerve, and then the strategy, you do everything on your own and no teammates to help cover your ass unless it’s Double, unlike Baseball. The idea of 1 kid already good enough to beat a pro player after 5 years of not playing is so ridiculously unrealistic, it down play the sport’s complexities tremendously which showed Terajima probably wasn’t even trying nor was he at all familiar with the material he’s doing. As someone who’s played tennis for 18 years like myself, Giant Steps and PoT is just way too unrealistic it really serves no inspirational purposes or value to read.
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Which is why it got old really quickly. Tennis is a difficult sport, MUCH more so than baseball because you have so many things to learn as a player because it’s mostly an individual sport and when you’re on the court, coaches can’t even give you advices or anything, you have to manage your own technique, your own mentality and nerve, and then the strategy, you do everything on your own and no teammates to help cover your ass unless it’s Double, unlike Baseball. The idea of 1 kid already good enough to beat a pro player after 5 years of not player is so ridiculously unrealistic, it down play the sport’s complexities tremendously which showed Terajima probably wasn’t even trying nor was he at all familiar with the material he’s doing. As someone who’s played tennis for 18 years like myself, Giant Steps and PoT is just way too unrealistic it really serves no inspirational purposes or value to read.


Which is why I personally prefer Baby Steps for some sense of realism, though sadly it was cancelled.
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It means that he was Over Powered, and not in a good way. He was just naturally talented and automatically skilled in the sport(tennis), due to "Advanced Body Memory"(basically his body remembers everything). Worst of all he was so OP that as a grade schooler he beat a pro player(after not much time playing the sport), and 5 years later after not playing any tennis, he goes on to beat another pro player. So yeah, he's was extremely OP, and it's why many didn't enjoy the manga.


Wait, meaning that he was like 12-14 years old when he beat PRO player? (If this is true, then even PoT can't beat this, I mean Ryoma has been practising with his dad since he is still young) How old is grade schooler in Japan? I only knew that from 15-17 is high school student.

And why Baby Steps got cancelled? the rating given in MAL is 8+.

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Which is why it got old really quickly. Tennis is a difficult sport, MUCH more so than baseball because you have so many things to learn as a player because it’s mostly an individual sport and when you’re on the court, coaches can’t even give you advices or anything, you have to manage your own technique, your own mentality and nerve, and then the strategy, you do everything on your own and no teammates to help cover your ass unless it’s Double, unlike Baseball. The idea of 1 kid already good enough to beat a pro player after 5 years of not player is so ridiculously unrealistic, it down play the sport’s complexities tremendously which showed Terajima probably wasn’t even trying nor was he at all familiar with the material he’s doing. As someone who’s played tennis for 18 years like myself, Giant Steps and PoT is just way too unrealistic it really serves no inspirational purposes or value to read.


Yeah, recently when I watch PoT, I just realised that Ryoma is only 12 years old, not to mention Tezuka is only 14 years old, how the heck can they serve like that? AND HE IS EXTREMELY TALL, is it natural that most Seigaku's player, besides 1st year to be that tall? (・・?)

(and the OP is seriously obvious-weird-kinda-funny to watch especially when Tezuka exterminate all dinosaurs using one serve, hahahaha)

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Wait, meaning that he was like 12-14 years old when he beat PRO player? (If this is true, then even PoT can't beat this, I mean Ryoma has been practising with his dad since he is still young) How old is grade schooler in Japan? I only knew that from 15-17 is high school student.

And why Baby Steps got cancelled? the rating given in MAL is 8+.


Nope. Younger.
He was in grade school were I believe it's between 6-12 years old, judging by how young and short he looked at the time. And again in high school against another Pro player.

I believe Baby Steps got cancelled because it wasn't doing so well in sales and it was taking too long to get to a climax. It was being dragged out way too much and I believe many people reading it couldn't hang on long enough to see where the author was going with the story. As a result, it go cancelled.
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There are 2 types of sports manga. One is pure shounen, not too different from the likes of Naruto: if you just replace ninjas with athletes, you'll basically get the same formula with humanly impossible feats and op powers. Yowamushi Pedal, Prince of Tennis, Kuroko no Basket, Saki... there's quite a few very popular ones in this category, which is understandable because their goal is pure entertainment, unhinged and wacky and thrilling.

The other category is sports manga that attempt to stay realistic about their sports. These are fewer in number and much harder to write. When they hit the spot though, they're pretty great. Slam Dunk, Daiya no Ace, Giant Killing...

If we're talking about DnA, then for me the trajectory of Akamatsu's curveball might have pushed the limits of realism, tbh, but the jury is still out on that until we see what will become of it in the summer.

As to Baby Steps... I didn't know it was axed. I saw the first season of the anime, and read the manga up until Maruo vs Takuma where I dropped it because I found the result too much of an asspull. All in all, Baby Steps started out good, but then it just somehow... I don't know, started flailing around without real purpose? I soured on the MC because he was too static for me and when novelty wore off he became outright boring, to the point that I started finding secondary characters more promising and interesting and found myself rooting for them in games rather than for the MC more often than not... The main girl didn't help either, from likeable she went into the annoying territory, and romance only made it worse... Basically it was another piece of evidence that you gotta be very careful with romance in sports because it can ruin characters just like that. If you're not sure, better stop at only hints or leave it out completely. I'm kinda grateful DnA didn't try to force romance, tbh. We get hints that both Wakana and Haruno like Eijun, but that's it, and that's good. If a fan feels the need, they can take those hints and expand on them, writing fanfiction to satisfy themselves, while the actual manga and the characters don't have to suffer the consequences of badly written romance.
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There are 2 types of sports manga. One is pure shounen, not too different from the likes of Naruto: if you just replace ninjas with athletes, you'll basically get the same formula with humanly impossible feats and op powers. Yowamushi Pedal, Prince of Tennis, Kuroko no Basket, Saki... there's quite a few very popular ones in this category, which is understandable because their goal is pure entertainment, unhinged and wacky and thrilling.

The other category is sports manga that attempt to stay realistic about their sports. These are fewer in number and much harder to write. When they hit the spot though, they're pretty great. Slam Dunk, Daiya no Ace, Giant Killing...

If we're talking about DnA, then for me the trajectory of Akamatsu's curveball might have pushed the limits of realism, tbh, but the jury is still out on that until we see what will become of it in the summer.

As to Baby Steps... I didn't know it was axed. I saw the first season of the anime, and read the manga up until Maruo vs Takuma where I dropped it because I found the result too much of an asspull. All in all, Baby Steps started out good, but then it just somehow... I don't know, started flailing around without real purpose? I soured on the MC because he was too static for me and when novelty wore off he became outright boring, to the point that I started finding secondary characters more promising and interesting and found myself rooting for them in games rather than for the MC more often than not... The main girl didn't help either, from likeable she went into the annoying territory, and romance only made it worse... Basically it was another piece of evidence that you gotta be very careful with romance in sports because it can ruin characters just like that. If you're not sure, better stop at only hints or leave it out completely. I'm kinda grateful DnA didn't try to force romance, tbh. We get hints that both Wakana and Haruno like Eijun, but that's it, and that's good. If a fan feels the need, they can take those hints and expand on them, writing fanfiction to satisfy themselves, while the actual manga and the characters don't have to suffer the consequences of badly written romance.
Baby Steps had become like Pokémon
Ash (Satoshi) makes many tournaments but he never winner no one
(I have not seen Pokemon for years, so maybe things have changed)
Even Baby Steps had become so, Maruo did so many tournaments but he never won
The author could not make him take the next step and it ended up becoming boring
Regarding the romance is not a problem for me if it does not become annoying, because I think it's normal for an adolescent to have a crush
Obviously as I said it should not become annoying

Sorry for the off topic
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No raws of spoilers yet at this time. Most likely due to Lunar New Year in China and Asian countries so those spoilers providers are probably in party mode. We probably have to wait for the RAWs to come out on Wednesday at this rate.

And yes, the reason why I’m such a big proponent of the Curveball is because it will be a pitch Sawamura can throw to any batter, left or right and if he control it properly, will be able to land him a looking strike more reliably than the Changeup. The Curveball is also a much better option than the Slider at full count because it’s less prone to cause passed ball, especially sloppy Slurves like Furuya has. With 2 solid off-speed offerings that he can pitch high (Curveball) and low (Changeup), the deception and variety he can combine with his fastballs: 4-seam, 2-seam, Cutter will take him to another level and somewhat closer to Maddux’s repertoire which is to possess all the pitches needed to trouble any type of batter he faces. Off-speed for power batter, fastballs in and out for contact hitter, changeup away to those that sits on high fastball, Curveball for looking strikes against those that throw away high pitches. In short, good luck batters if Sawamura learns the Curveball, they’ll desperately need it.


Ok thanks for letting me know whats going on with regards to the spoilers/raws.

In addition the curve is a lefties best friend, especially if you come in from a lower slot, like sawamura does since the ball breaks differently from in a higher slot in which its pretty set for righties and lefties. and I assume you mean the Curveball starts high and ends low, whereas a changeup starts low and stays low when you said a curve high and changeup low, because, as you know, a hanging Curveball is just a HR waiting to happen.

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Tora_Tazz said:
It means that he was Over Powered, and not in a good way. He was just naturally talented and automatically skilled in the sport(tennis), due to "Advanced Body Memory"(basically his body remembers everything). Worst of all he was so OP that as a grade schooler he beat a pro player(after not much time playing the sport), and 5 years later after not playing any tennis, he goes on to beat another pro player. So yeah, he's was extremely OP, and it's why many didn't enjoy the manga.


Which is why it got old really quickly. Tennis is a difficult sport, MUCH more so than baseball because you have so many things to learn as a player because it’s mostly an individual sport and when you’re on the court, coaches can’t even give you advices or anything, you have to manage your own technique, your own mentality and nerve, and then the strategy, you do everything on your own and no teammates to help cover your ass unless it’s Double, unlike Baseball. The idea of 1 kid already good enough to beat a pro player after 5 years of not player is so ridiculously unrealistic, it down play the sport’s complexities tremendously which showed Terajima probably wasn’t even trying nor was he at all familiar with the material he’s doing. As someone who’s played tennis for 18 years like myself, Giant Steps and PoT is just way too unrealistic it really serves no inspirational purposes or value to read.


Yeah I never really liked Giant steps. Baby Steps on the other hand was pretty good, and I have a bit of a soft spot for PoT (although I knew that nothing like that was actually ever going to happen) since it was one of the first Manga I ever read.

That was the thing that always irked me. People always assumed that Baseball is a really hard sport to play, way harder than Tennis or the sport I played since I was six, cricket. Thats not to say that baseball isn't hard, its just that Crickets rules are like lets take nearly all of the saftey concerns out of baseball, you can alter the ball to make it move more, bowl (pitch) at people, and you have no gloves, make the games start in the hottest part of the day, make it illegal for bowlers (pitchers) to bend their elbow when they deliver a ball, and play (in tests) for hours. Seriously it took them until the late 1970's to allow batters to wear helmets, and the 1990s until they were widely adopted, even today some 'keepers (baiscally crickets equivalent to Catchers) don't always wear helmets. More batsmen have died on the wicket than hitters in the batters box. The mindgames in Baseball are childs play in comparison to what happens in Cricket or tennis. It kind of sucks that neither sport gets the credit it is due.
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Spoilers for chapter 113: the title is something like 'the thought process of the invincible'

Carlos hits, Shirakawa's up next, but when Conrad throws the first pitch, his catcher immediately throws (not even getting up from his seated position for it) the ball to keep Carlos in check, showing off his strong throwing arm. Carlos is not deterred and immediately tries to steal base, succeeding when the ump calls him safe. Miyuki, seeing it, wonders to himself how the hell they (Seidou) are even supposed to go about stopping a speedster like that.

Shirakawa hits, Carlos makes it back home, taking 1 run back, and Shirakawa's now on 2nd too. Carlos high fives Miyuki who's up next. Shirakawa thinks that if Miyuki hits here, he's willing to reassess him a little as Mei's partner. Miyuki does manage to pull the ball with difficulty, advancing the runner, but being out himself. Shirakawa meanwhile compares Miyuki and Itsuki, and it's not favorable to Miyuki. Mei is harping on Miyuki too, asking him if Miyuki doesn't love him since he failed to hit long and make him happy.

Tokyo's 4th batter (who is Seikou's 4th batter, I forgot his name) sends the ball flying far but it's an easy fly caught by a fielder, so he's out too, and it's two outs. Mei asks You to play some catch with him, while Yamaoka is up to bat. Mei declares that he doesn't feel like they'll lose.
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Nope. Younger.
He was in grade school were I believe it's between 6-12 years old, judging by how young and short he looked at the time. And again in high school against another Pro player.

I believe Baby Steps got cancelled because it wasn't doing so well in sales and it was taking too long to get to a climax. It was being dragged out way too much and I believe many people reading it couldn't hang on long enough to see where the author was going with the story. As a result, it got cancelled.


6-12 YEARSSS OLD? what the heck? MC shouldn't have the stamina for tennis, although if MC does have that "power", he couldn't do anything if he doesn't have stamina.

And for Baby Steps, maybe because of the title, the author plans to starts slowly? but if you drag it too long, people might be coming frustrated. even I have becoming frustrated of Jap-USA match...

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Spoilers for chapter 113: the title is something like 'the thought process of the invincible'

Carlos hits, Shirakawa's up next, but when Conrad throws the first pitch, his catcher immediately throws (not even getting up from his seated position for it) the ball to keep Carlos in check, showing off his strong throwing arm. Carlos is not deterred and immediately tries to steal base, succeeding when the ump calls him safe. Miyuki, seeing it, wonders to himself how the hell they (Seidou) are even supposed to go about stopping a speedster like that.

Shirakawa hits, Carlos makes it back home, taking 1 run back, and Shirakawa's now on 2nd too. Carlos high fives Miyuki who's up next. Shirakawa thinks that if Miyuki hits here, he's willing to reassess him a little as Mei's partner. Miyuki does manage to pull the ball with difficulty, advancing the runner, but being out himself. Shirakawa meanwhile compares Miyuki and Itsuki, and it's not favorable to Miyuki. Mei is harping on Miyuki too, asking him if Miyuki doesn't love him since he failed to hit long and make him happy.

Tokyo's 4th batter (who is Seikou's 4th batter, I forgot his name) sends the ball flying far but it's an easy fly caught by a fielder, so he's out too, and it's two outs. Mei asks You to play some catch with him, while Yamaoka is up to bat. Mei declares that he doesn't feel like they'll lose.


Oh mann, meaning they couldn't even let Carlos in base. and Inajitsu line up is strong to be able to hit and score while Miyuki struggling to hit, and Itsuki is better than Miyuki is bad news. IMO, whats going to happen next is:

Yamaoka gonna hit HR, and Miyuki will start to think how Seido gonna handles Inajitsu in Summer Tournament later, and they will going back to Seidou's match, meaning maybe next month, I can see Seidou again, well,if I'm not lucky, its not gonna be Sawamura.. Its gonna be Furuya X Yui. Thanks for translating this @CG
"It's only us pitchers who can prove for all to see that your gamecalling' choices ain't wrong, yeah?" Sawamura to Okumura before their first official practice game as a battery.
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and Itsuki is better than Miyuki is bad news.
Well, Shirakawa and Mei mostly naturally want to nitpick anything Miyuki does, in this case his batting. Shirakawa's thoughts go as follows: 'Terrible job... ...it is not, since he did accomplish the barest minimum of what is expected of him. But if it were Itsuki, he'd hit it through a gap between the fielders, no matter how unsightly it would make his hit look. He'd make sure to send it over the fielders regardless of being jammed. Our Itsuki would, no doubt...'

But I think it can serve as a sort of wakeup call for Miyuki to improve his batting, or Seidou's chances to score against Inajitsu start looking slimmer by the minute.

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CG said:
Spoilers for chapter 113: the title is something like 'the thought process of the invincible'

Carlos hits, Shirakawa's up next, but when Conrad throws the first pitch, his catcher immediately throws (not even getting up from his seated position for it) the ball to keep Carlos in check, showing off his strong throwing arm. Carlos is not deterred and immediately tries to steal base, succeeding when the ump calls him safe. Miyuki, seeing it, wonders to himself how the hell they (Seidou) are even supposed to go about stopping a speedster like that.

Shirakawa hits, Carlos makes it back home, taking 1 run back, and Shirakawa's now on 2nd too. Carlos high fives Miyuki who's up next. Shirakawa thinks that if Miyuki hits here, he's willing to reassess him a little as Mei's partner. Miyuki does manage to pull the ball with difficulty, advancing the runner, but being out himself. Shirakawa meanwhile compares Miyuki and Itsuki, and it's not favorable to Miyuki. Mei is harping on Miyuki too, asking him if Miyuki doesn't love him since he failed to hit long and make him happy.

Tokyo's 4th batter (who is Seikou's 4th batter, I forgot his name) sends the ball flying far but it's an easy fly caught by a fielder, so he's out too, and it's two outs. Mei asks You to play some catch with him, while Yamaoka is up to bat. Mei declares that he doesn't feel like they'll lose.


Well this is kind of dumb. Is Inajitsu supposed to be better than some of the best players, from the best country in baseball? Also is terajima trying to nerf his golden boy? Did he just realize that Miyuki sort of breaks baseball? Also since Conrad is a relief pitcher who just gave up a run, what exactly is the American coach doing? just sitting there? Not going to his bullpen? (seriously though thats what really is the basis for how american and MLB teams win, they just go to the bullpen early and often now, the Yankees won this past Wild Card game by having their relief pitchers pitch like 7+ innings in relief) If they win, its less Tokyo and Inajitsu being great, and more these LA guys being coached by the white freaking Dusty "Walks clog the bases" Baker (he's an idiotic coach, but very popular with some of his players) That said Inajitsu's players are stoppable, it'll be down to Sawamura stepping up and doing what he needs to do to stop them. Also Shirakawa is an idiot. Itsuki, who is a good player, isn't going to do all that much against a randy johnson/chris sale/andrew miller clone. Quite frankly a gb that advances the runner is good enough against a guy like that. The best pitcher Itsuki has had to face was one of Ouno or Mukai, who are nowhere near Sawamura's or Hongou's quality, or Conrad's for that matter. honestly the guy just hates miyuki for reasons that aren't entirely clear. Mei is also a bit of an idiot, like what does he only want dingers from Miyuki (don't get me wrong dingers are great, but sometimes a well placed single does the same damage psychologically to a pitcher as a dinger does).
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6-12 YEARSSS OLD? what the heck? MC shouldn't have the stamina for tennis, although if MC does have that "power", he couldn't do anything if he doesn't have stamina.

And for Baby Steps, maybe because of the title, the author plans to starts slowly? but if you drag it too long, people might be coming frustrated. even I have becoming frustrated of Jap-USA match...


Well just to clarify, it wasn't a full match, so stamina isn't the issue(though I don't think it would even matter at this point). It was said to be only 1 game, and that it was more than enough to break the spirit of the pro player and show the difference in strength. So, yeah...OP MC.

CG said:
Spoilers for chapter 113: the title is something like 'the thought process of the invincible'

Carlos hits, Shirakawa's up next, but when Conrad throws the first pitch, his catcher immediately throws (not even getting up from his seated position for it) the ball to keep Carlos in check, showing off his strong throwing arm. Carlos is not deterred and immediately tries to steal base, succeeding when the ump calls him safe. Miyuki, seeing it, wonders to himself how the hell they (Seidou) are even supposed to go about stopping a speedster like that.

Shirakawa hits, Carlos makes it back home, taking 1 run back, and Shirakawa's now on 2nd too. Carlos high fives Miyuki who's up next. Shirakawa thinks that if Miyuki hits here, he's willing to reassess him a little as Mei's partner. Miyuki does manage to pull the ball with difficulty, advancing the runner, but being out himself. Shirakawa meanwhile compares Miyuki and Itsuki, and it's not favorable to Miyuki. Mei is harping on Miyuki too, asking him if Miyuki doesn't love him since he failed to hit long and make him happy.

Tokyo's 4th batter (who is Seikou's 4th batter, I forgot his name) sends the ball flying far but it's an easy fly caught by a fielder, so he's out too, and it's two outs. Mei asks You to play some catch with him, while Yamaoka is up to bat. Mei declares that he doesn't feel like they'll lose.


Thanks for the quick summary.

So basically this is all just hype and a show of strength for the Inashiro players, going into the Summer T. Easy to see why many others and myself are quite fed up with this match, and can't wait for it to end.
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I never would have thought that I would miss Furuya but damn I'm not interrested in this usa-japan game at all and there's still one game left. Come on Terajima just skipp through already this tokyo senbatsu to Seido vs Seihou and that we Sawamura pitch.

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One page of this chapter: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5559093137
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chapter 113 up, but man, i skipped thru it, and narumiya didn't feel like losing, well yeah, since this is japanese manga, i hope we shifted into seido next chapter.
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Thanks @CG for posting the chapter.

Also Shirakawa looks like even more of an idiot. First he says that winning this game is on the backs of the righties, then he says Miyuki, a lefty, is not as good a catcher (based at least on part by his inability to hit conrad which he just claimed was difficult for a lefty) as Itsuki (who is a righty). As @GDV said, this is the American team, they have power to spare, unless terajima nerfs them for no reason other than, "Japanese baseball> American Baseball", they are going to win. On the panels I don't see the American coach doing what most modern American coaches will do, and go to his bullpen and bring in his set up guy to take the game into the ninth, or his closer now that there are 2 outs in the eight for a four out save, which confirms to me that he really doesn't know what he's doing, or that Terajima doesn't know that american coaches prefer this system. I hope that its the latter not the former, because the American Coach has been pretty accurate so far.
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Tbh, that thing with Shirakawa constantly on Miyuki's case and not letting up for a second has been bothering for a while now. I'm even on the verge of believing that he actually has some kind of weird crush on Miyuki or something that he's in deep denial about, and he somehow first got it way before the start of the manga, back in their middle school days. After Miyuki had refused Mei's offer, from the chapters before the Inajitsu-Seidou final and during the game itself, for all intents and purposes, it looks like the one who took his refusal the hardest wasn't Mei who actually had a reason and the right, but, surprisingly, Shirakawa. Like, wtf. Compared to his teammates who are no angels themselves and like to tease and put pressure, Shirakawa's aura of hostility and passive aggressiveness towards Miyuki, and only Miyuki, is literally on another level, with no clear reason as to why. I mean, I could understand it when Koushuu demonstrated that type of behavior, he and Miyuki are rivals for the same position and their approaches are often clashing, but Shirakawa, a shortstop not even on the same team? Gimme a break, jeez.

I like keeping the actual manga content and shipping entirely separate but this thing with Shirakawa is only getting progressively more weird with no explanation in sight, to the point where it seemingly robs him of all objectivity as soon as Miyuki is involved that he now ranks a clearly inferior catcher higher just because there's Miyuki in the equation, and I'm running out of rational ways to explain it.
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