Let’s have a civil discussion about the visual quality of S2

Oongbuh said:


I'm sorry, but claiming that episodes 1-5 were "not that impressive" but then in the same comment claim that episode 2 was "the best one" when it was noticeably the most consertive and the closest thing to an "average" episode this season had makes it really hard to take this seriously.

DrkSeid69 said:
Poeple nowadays prefer a "impressive" animation from season 1 rather than a massive upgrade on almost every aspect from season 2?

Not to mention the storytelling from both seasons are like night and day

Dixoncider8142 said:

Huh? Do u even know how to read. Ig not, but I’ll repeat myself just bc ur a bit slow. I had mixed feelings about episode 5. Episodes 1,3,4 were just ok but not too impressive but 2 is the best episode in terms of animation. What you said was something completely different to what I said, I can’t take ppl seriously when they don’t know how to read.

atari2k said:
I think you're trolling because there is no way you think  episode 2 had the best animation when like the guy said, it had the most conservative animation in this season so far.

Dixoncider8142 said:

So having an opinion is now trolling? I feel like u want me to lie to myself and say that this is the best animation that I’ve seen in any other MAPPA’s work or any anime studio in general. Dude you’re a MAPPA fanboy in denial, wake up and realize that the animation for the most part is fair and yes there has been some moments that it was really good but u have to realize in a grand scale of things the animation is average.

Dixoncider8142 said:

Also dude what do u know about animation you’ve only seen like 63 animes

Bobakmrmot said:


No it isn't? Idk what storytelling masterpiece people are seeing in this season but it's really nothing insane or that different from season 1.

Absolute nothing about this season has been a massive upgrade from S1. They took sandpaper to character models and butchered them for the sake of simplicity and "character acting" which is suddenly this highly sought after holy grail of animation.

All the scenes that emphasize character acting in this look cringe to me, like the animators' only goal was to have characters moving all the time at any cost, and the cost was horrible art scrubbed of any detail. Utahime hallway scene was horrific, it looked as bad as that rotoscoped kid from AoT S4, over-acting on the deck.

It feels like pretentious animation and film students have taken over all these discussions and are overhyping direction and motion over everything else. There is nothing wrong with flapping lips and mostly still dialogue shots if characters look amazing like in S1 and seasons 1-3 of AoT, as long as it's not egregious and it never was.

We don't need dialogue scenes having constant arm waving, idiotic off model faces and expressions and wonky proportions. It looks uncanny, distracting and ugly. Half the scenes this episodes look like CGI with how stupidly simple and lacking in detail they are, like look at this bs https://twitter.com/JJKContent/status/1687123035030007808

Dixoncider8142 said:

Also dude what do u know about animation you’ve only seen like 63 animes

DrkSeid69 said:
just call every single frame that's looks uncanny to you as a "CGI" . 2 of the frames you're mentioned about was supposed to look creepy for a storytelling purpose.

You literally said that utahime hallway scene was bad, that means the anime movies from the past are considered bad huh?

everything that you said before makes me almost lose my brain cells

Most scene that you're ranting about always appears in every dark, horror anime. and JJK is a dark shonen anime that deserved this type of direction

Seems like you're just recently became an anime fan aren't you?  Watch more good anime before you talk about the animation

atari2k said:
I've watched more anime than I've credited on this site, I just don't care to look all of them up  and add them to my library. even so, its easy to tell episode 2 had less sakura than the other episodes, it aint that hard and you don't have to watch a 1000 thousand anime to realize.

Bobakmrmot said:


Wtf are you talking about, I'm not talking about the vibe or the setting of the hallway scene, just that the animation of her leaving that room looked like rotoscoped garbage. I don't know whether that IS what they've done or not, but I hate the trend of over-animating mundane scenes like those when the tradeoff is nearly objectively worse character models.

Give a random person a few S1 and S2 shots of the same characters and ask them which ones they prefer, it's gonna be the same response 9.5 times out of 10.

You gave yourself away as one of the pretentious simps for this season with your gatekeeping comments. I'm neither new to anime nor am I a 30-year vet, but I did create an account just now because of how awful this episode look for the stuff I personally value in anime.

You don't need to go to art school to know what looks good.

I'm not talking about the vibe or the setting of the hallway scene,

Give a random person a few S1 and S2 shots of the same characters and ask them which ones they prefer, it's gonna be the same response 9.5 times out of 10.

You don't need to go to art school to know what looks good.

Dixoncider8142 said:

I hate to say it but ig ur right about episode 2 having less sakuga than 3 and 4 but idk it was my favorite episode of the season so far overall I’m talking about direction, voice acting,ost, enjoyment, and there’s no denying that the animation in episode 2 was still good, for the most part in episode 3 and 4 the animation was average for the most parts, except when they were fighting.

atari2k said:
nah the overall quality of  episode 4 and the amazingg character  acting and direction in episode 3 before the fighting was amazing. every episode looked great but overall episode 2 was the weakest from an animation and directorial standpoint. the reason a lot of people praise episode 5 is because the direction is amazing because you really feel getos crumbling morals and happiness. the character animation is  also very expressive so for example  when Gojo finds out his expressions help accentuate his emotions. overall episode 5 just has the most "soul" as you could call  it because there's so much life to it, and the animation of characters are better than in previous episode.

Dixoncider8142 said:

Ok but that’s just my opinion on episode 2, you can have ur own opinion about episode 2 and claim it to be the weakest out of the entire season that’s fine. But don’t go out and say that other ppl are trolling if they have a different opinion than urs it’s just annoying. The forum was made to share opinions, not to lecture someone about saying oh no ur wrong therefore ur trolling and this is the way how it is bc I said so, it’s annoying.

atari2k said:
yeah well the issue is that your opinion is quite literally the opposite of  the wide consensus, and simply from an animation standpoint you're also incorrect. that's why we assumed you  were trolling

Dixoncider8142 said:

Dude if u want me to talk in a objective standpoint then imma just say that MAPPA is a hit or miss studio and the animation for jjk season 2 so far isn’t that impressive. That’s a fact and not an opinion MAPPA isn’t even a top 3 studio

atari2k said:
once again you are trolling lol. which anime  has  has better animation  this  season??? the show has  sakura almost everys scene and the  action has been amazing, as well as the non action where the characters move so much , not to mention the  amazing color direction and general compositing. you  have  no idea what you  are talking apt tbh so I'm done  after this.

Dixoncider8142 said:

I genuinely want to know what are ur top 3 anime studios. I want to see how right are ur “facts” that u speak of bc if you think that MAPPA is top 3, then you’re honestly new to anime or if not ur a MAPPA fanboy in denial.

Blue_Reaper7 said:

Mappa is arguably in top 3 if we consider amount of producing big titles in high quality consistently.

Dixoncider8142 said:

“High quality” where? I would’ve agreed with you if this was 2-3 years ago but if imma be honest they’ve been going down hill. Also saying top 3 studio of all time that’s a joke right? I can’t really tell sometimes.

Blue_Reaper7 said:

CSM, JJK , AoT are high quality and other less priority projects are also above average in quality. Only bad one was Hell's Paradise.

Dixoncider8142 said:

Csm was also bad overall, aot was just ok but it felt like they were cutting corners with the overuse of cgi, the project felt lazy more than “good quality”. Jjk season 1 was amazing no doubt about that, season 2 has been decent but it can be better hopefully they can make it right in 2 weeks.

Oongbuh said:


Let me guess: you're also gonna say Hell's Paradise was some sort of masterpiece? Because Jesus Christ, having this many awful takes should be a crime

Dixoncider8142 said:

I don’t have an opinion on hells paradise bc I didn’t finish the entire season bc I didn’t have the time. But the little that I’ve seen was ok, I didn’t think it was a masterpiece, and I didn’t read the manga so I can’t really say if it was an insult to the manga, but what I can say is that csm was an insult to the manga.

j_ds said:
I personally dindn't mind that they chaged the animation style for s2 but the 5th ep seamed kinda off. It looked like it was made with AI or CGI or with smth third, especially the scenes were they show getos' forehead & eyes. It was kinda disstracting. Idk if it's a problem w me or did anyone else notice it. Please tell me your thoughts.