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Jun 12, 2016 9:08 PM

#751

Shinichi-Kun

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Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Crossbell said:

Thank you for this.

You raise good points with scum!Soren not being sent to twilight phase but I literally was just burnt by this with PentaFlare in Tsundere Madness, so I am unsure what to expect of Soren here. I do recall that in Tsundere Madness he was extremely lurky; is that true for him of both alignments?

The point with Shinichi is intriguing and I'll have to think about it more. My gut is still leaning towards him being noob town since he feels similar to how he played in Shounen Crossover.

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:
Can we go back to worrying about soren and dono lol cause they are the targets not me and ari.

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Jun 12, 2016 9:11 PM

#752

Shinichi-Kun

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Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Realized I quoted this in my preivous message but totally forgot to respond to it.

I'm not that focused on tbh, true I kind of like the idea of you flipping scum but I did give my reads on every player of the game. Also i get focused quite alot in game's too at this point I go into every game expecting someone to start a train on me lmao.

Jun 12, 2016 9:12 PM

#753

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Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Jun 12, 2016 9:13 PM

#754

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Shinichi-Kun said:

Jackrito said:

I don't think it is a good idea to search for the hints or even admit they was some now scum will look for them and kill if he is telling the truth.

I find it a bit scummy how you want such info so early and it handed to you.

I agree with jack here

So do you find followind scummy too?

Jun 12, 2016 9:13 PM

#755

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Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Realized I quoted this in my preivous message but totally forgot to respond to it.

I'm not that focused on tbh, true I kind of like the idea of you flipping scum but I did give my reads on every player of the game. Also i get focused quite alot in game's too at this point I go into every game expecting someone to start a train on me lmao.

Why do you think you get so much attention in games?

Jun 12, 2016 9:14 PM

#756

Shinichi-Kun

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Can't say for sure till i've heard dono speak. I don't wanna go for a double lynch and if for a second i think both are town i'll be voting no lynch.

Jun 12, 2016 9:15 PM

#757

Arrisu

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I'm going to sleep now. Tomorrow is my father's birthday so I'll be out most of the day and won't be around for phase change. I'll make sure to post my vote before I leave in the morning, though.

I'd really like to hear from @Soren @aa-dono more before that happens. Or else I fear that I might need to do a double lynch. :)

Good night everyone.

Jun 12, 2016 9:15 PM

#758

Shinichi-Kun

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aa-dono said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

I agree with jack here

So do you find followind scummy too?

Not really, I still get a quite a neutral read from him.

Jun 12, 2016 9:15 PM

#759

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Arrisu said:
I'm going to sleep now. Tomorrow is my father's birthday so I'll be out most of the day and won't be around for phase change. I'll make sure to post my vote before I leave in the morning, though.

I'd really like to hear from @Soren @aa-dono more before that happens. Or else I fear that I might need to do a double lynch. :)

Good night everyone.

Good night Ari-chan <3

Jun 12, 2016 9:16 PM

#760

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Shinichi-Kun said:

aa-dono said:

So do you find followind scummy too?

Not really, I still get a quite a neutral read from him.

why?

Jun 12, 2016 9:16 PM

#761

Shinichi-Kun

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Arrisu said:
I'm going to sleep now. Tomorrow is my father's birthday so I'll be out most of the day and won't be around for phase change. I'll make sure to post my vote before I leave in the morning, though.

I'd really like to hear from @Soren @aa-dono more before that happens. Or else I fear that I might need to do a double lynch. :)

Good night everyone.

Night \o Happy Birthday to your father.

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Crossbell said:

Arrisu said:
@Crossbell - Mostly gut. I also don't think scum Soren would be so easily compliant with being sent to Twilight phase. He would have worked harder beforehand to get himself out of there. But I could be wrong, Soren's playstyle has changed recently. So take my words with a grain of salt regarding this.

Hm the only one on that train that could be seen as scummy is Shinichi-kun. A part of me wants to believe that he is town but all the while his behaviour during the Twilight phase so far is interesting. He's pushing a lynch on Soren yet hasn't announced him as being one of his "scum-reads" at all throughout the game. It's a bit bizarre that he was so willing to hop onto Soren's train to save himself instead of just voting against dono, a "null read".

That's another reason why I am leaning on Soren being town. Shinichi makes no mention of wanting dono to be lynched, but readily accepts Soren's lynch. Yet it makes no sense, because he also has a null read on Soren as well.

Basically if dono flips scum, I'm lead to believe that Shinichi is also scum.

Thank you for this.

You raise good points with scum!Soren not being sent to twilight phase but I literally was just burnt by this with PentaFlare in Tsundere Madness, so I am unsure what to expect of Soren here. I do recall that in Tsundere Madness he was extremely lurky; is that true for him of both alignments?

The point with Shinichi is intriguing and I'll have to think about it more. My gut is still leaning towards him being noob town since he feels similar to how he played in Shounen Crossover.

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:
Can we go back to worrying about soren and dono lol cause they are the targets not me and ari.

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Can't say for sure till i've heard dono speak. I don't wanna go for a double lynch and if for a second i think both are town i'll be voting no lynch.

Well I know it's not spite, prob cause people seem my playstyle as scummy on top of the fact i'm terrible at wording 50% of the stuff I say leading to huge misunderstandings.

Jun 12, 2016 9:17 PM

#762

SoulEaterQUEEN

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Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Crossbell said:

Arrisu said:
@Crossbell - Mostly gut. I also don't think scum Soren would be so easily compliant with being sent to Twilight phase. He would have worked harder beforehand to get himself out of there. But I could be wrong, Soren's playstyle has changed recently. So take my words with a grain of salt regarding this.

Hm the only one on that train that could be seen as scummy is Shinichi-kun. A part of me wants to believe that he is town but all the while his behaviour during the Twilight phase so far is interesting. He's pushing a lynch on Soren yet hasn't announced him as being one of his "scum-reads" at all throughout the game. It's a bit bizarre that he was so willing to hop onto Soren's train to save himself instead of just voting against dono, a "null read".

That's another reason why I am leaning on Soren being town. Shinichi makes no mention of wanting dono to be lynched, but readily accepts Soren's lynch. Yet it makes no sense, because he also has a null read on Soren as well.

Basically if dono flips scum, I'm lead to believe that Shinichi is also scum.

Thank you for this.

You raise good points with scum!Soren not being sent to twilight phase but I literally was just burnt by this with PentaFlare in Tsundere Madness, so I am unsure what to expect of Soren here. I do recall that in Tsundere Madness he was extremely lurky; is that true for him of both alignments?

The point with Shinichi is intriguing and I'll have to think about it more. My gut is still leaning towards him being noob town since he feels similar to how he played in Shounen Crossover.

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:
Can we go back to worrying about soren and dono lol cause they are the targets not me and ari.

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Can't say for sure till i've heard dono speak. I don't wanna go for a double lynch and if for a second i think both are town i'll be voting no lynch.

do you think you've heard enough from Soren to commit to an answer on him?

Jun 12, 2016 9:17 PM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Jackrito said:
I may as well update this while I go.

For people who hate long posts I will spoiler that the short version is my reads currently are
strong Scum: Shinchi,Soren,Dono,Bee-boy,
slight scum: Sightless, Togs ( He could go in strong but I just find his style scummy so trying not to be biased.)
Neu (Shuuka,Bioshade,Lucian,Followwind)

Strong town SoulEaterQueen,Crossbell, Ari,

If people want me to explain any of these reads please ask.

I feel as though Bee-Boy is sheeping Soren's reasoning for suspecting you. I also feel as though Bee-Boy is behaving more passively which raises alarms a little bit.

That doesn't feel reasonable since Soren did not vote for Jack.

Jun 12, 2016 9:17 PM

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And dono appears as I speak... v_v

@Shinichi-kun - I find it interesting that you say "no lynch" is one of your options. If I must remind you, any lynch is better then no lynch in day 1.

You also sound like you are setting yourself up for a "no lynch" prospect because you know Soren is town (and will defend himself) & you don't want to lynch dono (if scum buddies). But that's just a wild theory.

Jun 12, 2016 9:18 PM

#765

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Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:
I'm going to sleep now. Tomorrow is my father's birthday so I'll be out most of the day and won't be around for phase change. I'll make sure to post my vote before I leave in the morning, though.

I'd really like to hear from @Soren @aa-dono more before that happens. Or else I fear that I might need to do a double lynch. :)

Good night everyone.

Night \o Happy Birthday to your father.

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Crossbell said:

Arrisu said:
@Crossbell - Mostly gut. I also don't think scum Soren would be so easily compliant with being sent to Twilight phase. He would have worked harder beforehand to get himself out of there. But I could be wrong, Soren's playstyle has changed recently. So take my words with a grain of salt regarding this.

Hm the only one on that train that could be seen as scummy is Shinichi-kun. A part of me wants to believe that he is town but all the while his behaviour during the Twilight phase so far is interesting. He's pushing a lynch on Soren yet hasn't announced him as being one of his "scum-reads" at all throughout the game. It's a bit bizarre that he was so willing to hop onto Soren's train to save himself instead of just voting against dono, a "null read".

That's another reason why I am leaning on Soren being town. Shinichi makes no mention of wanting dono to be lynched, but readily accepts Soren's lynch. Yet it makes no sense, because he also has a null read on Soren as well.

Basically if dono flips scum, I'm lead to believe that Shinichi is also scum.

Thank you for this.

You raise good points with scum!Soren not being sent to twilight phase but I literally was just burnt by this with PentaFlare in Tsundere Madness, so I am unsure what to expect of Soren here. I do recall that in Tsundere Madness he was extremely lurky; is that true for him of both alignments?

The point with Shinichi is intriguing and I'll have to think about it more. My gut is still leaning towards him being noob town since he feels similar to how he played in Shounen Crossover.

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:
Can we go back to worrying about soren and dono lol cause they are the targets not me and ari.

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Can't say for sure till i've heard dono speak. I don't wanna go for a double lynch and if for a second i think both are town i'll be voting no lynch.

Well I know it's not spite, prob cause people seem my playstyle as scummy on top of the fact i'm terrible at wording 50% of the stuff I say leading to huge misunderstandings.

can you give me an example?

Jun 12, 2016 9:19 PM

#766

SoulEaterQUEEN

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aa-dono said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Jackrito said:
I may as well update this while I go.

For people who hate long posts I will spoiler that the short version is my reads currently are
strong Scum: Shinchi,Soren,Dono,Bee-boy,
slight scum: Sightless, Togs ( He could go in strong but I just find his style scummy so trying not to be biased.)
Neu (Shuuka,Bioshade,Lucian,Followwind)

Strong town SoulEaterQueen,Crossbell, Ari,

If people want me to explain any of these reads please ask.

I feel as though Bee-Boy is sheeping Soren's reasoning for suspecting you. I also feel as though Bee-Boy is behaving more passively which raises alarms a little bit.

That doesn't feel reasonable since Soren did not vote for Jack.

you don't have to vote for someone if you suspect them. voting for them makes your suspicions stronger though.

Jun 12, 2016 9:19 PM

#767

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Not really, I still get a quite a neutral read from him.

why?

Because this isn't enough for me to scum read her lol, sure the fact that she wanted someone to point her towards the hint is quite scummy but their could be other reason's behind that which i ain't willing to disclose.

Did wind ever even respond to this post I need to go check.

Jun 12, 2016 9:21 PM

#768

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Crossbell said:

Arrisu said:
@Crossbell - Mostly gut. I also don't think scum Soren would be so easily compliant with being sent to Twilight phase. He would have worked harder beforehand to get himself out of there. But I could be wrong, Soren's playstyle has changed recently. So take my words with a grain of salt regarding this.

Hm the only one on that train that could be seen as scummy is Shinichi-kun. A part of me wants to believe that he is town but all the while his behaviour during the Twilight phase so far is interesting. He's pushing a lynch on Soren yet hasn't announced him as being one of his "scum-reads" at all throughout the game. It's a bit bizarre that he was so willing to hop onto Soren's train to save himself instead of just voting against dono, a "null read".

That's another reason why I am leaning on Soren being town. Shinichi makes no mention of wanting dono to be lynched, but readily accepts Soren's lynch. Yet it makes no sense, because he also has a null read on Soren as well.

Basically if dono flips scum, I'm lead to believe that Shinichi is also scum.

Thank you for this.

You raise good points with scum!Soren not being sent to twilight phase but I literally was just burnt by this with PentaFlare in Tsundere Madness, so I am unsure what to expect of Soren here. I do recall that in Tsundere Madness he was extremely lurky; is that true for him of both alignments?

The point with Shinichi is intriguing and I'll have to think about it more. My gut is still leaning towards him being noob town since he feels similar to how he played in Shounen Crossover.

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:
Can we go back to worrying about soren and dono lol cause they are the targets not me and ari.

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Can't say for sure till i've heard dono speak. I don't wanna go for a double lynch and if for a second i think both are town i'll be voting no lynch.

do you think you've heard enough from Soren to commit to an answer on him?

He bring's up some fair points against himself so yes I kinda do but like I said I rather wait for dono to defend herself before I disclose my answer. Also wish other people would provide what they think about soren and dono so we can gather it all up to analyze.

Jun 12, 2016 9:21 PM

#769

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Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

why?

Because this isn't enough for me to scum read her lol, sure the fact that she wanted someone to point her towards the hint is quite scummy but their could be other reason's behind that which i ain't willing to disclose.

Did wind ever even respond to this post I need to go check.

what do you mean 'her', I was referring to followind
who did you think I was referring to?

Jun 12, 2016 9:21 PM

#770

Shinichi-Kun

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Night \o Happy Birthday to your father.

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Crossbell said:

Arrisu said:
@Crossbell - Mostly gut. I also don't think scum Soren would be so easily compliant with being sent to Twilight phase. He would have worked harder beforehand to get himself out of there. But I could be wrong, Soren's playstyle has changed recently. So take my words with a grain of salt regarding this.

Hm the only one on that train that could be seen as scummy is Shinichi-kun. A part of me wants to believe that he is town but all the while his behaviour during the Twilight phase so far is interesting. He's pushing a lynch on Soren yet hasn't announced him as being one of his "scum-reads" at all throughout the game. It's a bit bizarre that he was so willing to hop onto Soren's train to save himself instead of just voting against dono, a "null read".

That's another reason why I am leaning on Soren being town. Shinichi makes no mention of wanting dono to be lynched, but readily accepts Soren's lynch. Yet it makes no sense, because he also has a null read on Soren as well.

Basically if dono flips scum, I'm lead to believe that Shinichi is also scum.

Thank you for this.

You raise good points with scum!Soren not being sent to twilight phase but I literally was just burnt by this with PentaFlare in Tsundere Madness, so I am unsure what to expect of Soren here. I do recall that in Tsundere Madness he was extremely lurky; is that true for him of both alignments?

The point with Shinichi is intriguing and I'll have to think about it more. My gut is still leaning towards him being noob town since he feels similar to how he played in Shounen Crossover.

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:
Can we go back to worrying about soren and dono lol cause they are the targets not me and ari.

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Can't say for sure till i've heard dono speak. I don't wanna go for a double lynch and if for a second i think both are town i'll be voting no lynch.

Well I know it's not spite, prob cause people seem my playstyle as scummy on top of the fact i'm terrible at wording 50% of the stuff I say leading to huge misunderstandings.

can you give me an example?

Why?

Jun 12, 2016 9:22 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Crossbell said:

Arrisu said:
@Crossbell - Mostly gut. I also don't think scum Soren would be so easily compliant with being sent to Twilight phase. He would have worked harder beforehand to get himself out of there. But I could be wrong, Soren's playstyle has changed recently. So take my words with a grain of salt regarding this.

Hm the only one on that train that could be seen as scummy is Shinichi-kun. A part of me wants to believe that he is town but all the while his behaviour during the Twilight phase so far is interesting. He's pushing a lynch on Soren yet hasn't announced him as being one of his "scum-reads" at all throughout the game. It's a bit bizarre that he was so willing to hop onto Soren's train to save himself instead of just voting against dono, a "null read".

That's another reason why I am leaning on Soren being town. Shinichi makes no mention of wanting dono to be lynched, but readily accepts Soren's lynch. Yet it makes no sense, because he also has a null read on Soren as well.

Basically if dono flips scum, I'm lead to believe that Shinichi is also scum.

Thank you for this.

You raise good points with scum!Soren not being sent to twilight phase but I literally was just burnt by this with PentaFlare in Tsundere Madness, so I am unsure what to expect of Soren here. I do recall that in Tsundere Madness he was extremely lurky; is that true for him of both alignments?

The point with Shinichi is intriguing and I'll have to think about it more. My gut is still leaning towards him being noob town since he feels similar to how he played in Shounen Crossover.

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:
Can we go back to worrying about soren and dono lol cause they are the targets not me and ari.

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Can't say for sure till i've heard dono speak. I don't wanna go for a double lynch and if for a second i think both are town i'll be voting no lynch.

do you think you've heard enough from Soren to commit to an answer on him?

He bring's up some fair points against himself so yes I kinda do but like I said I rather wait for dono to defend herself before I disclose my answer. Also wish other people would provide what they think about soren and dono so we can gather it all up to analyze.

Can you reiterate the which points you find fair? I need some specifics.

Jun 12, 2016 9:23 PM

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Arrisu said:
And dono appears as I speak... v_v

@Shinichi-kun - I find it interesting that you say "no lynch" is one of your options. If I must remind you, any lynch is better then no lynch in day 1.

You also sound like you are setting yourself up for a "no lynch" prospect because you know Soren is town (and will defend himself) & you don't want to lynch dono (if scum buddies). But that's just a wild theory.

In this situation not so much cause lets say both are town. In that situation people will all vote the player with the weaker role, if everyone votes the same person can we really get any reads off of that? In that situation I rather do a no lynch than sacrifice a person I think won't give much reads.

Jun 12, 2016 9:24 PM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Because this isn't enough for me to scum read her lol, sure the fact that she wanted someone to point her towards the hint is quite scummy but their could be other reason's behind that which i ain't willing to disclose.

Did wind ever even respond to this post I need to go check.

what do you mean 'her', I was referring to followind
who did you think I was referring to?

Oh did i mix up gender's isn't follow wind a girl?

Jun 12, 2016 9:24 PM

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Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:
I'm going to sleep now. Tomorrow is my father's birthday so I'll be out most of the day and won't be around for phase change. I'll make sure to post my vote before I leave in the morning, though.

I'd really like to hear from @Soren @aa-dono more before that happens. Or else I fear that I might need to do a double lynch. :)

Good night everyone.

Night \o Happy Birthday to your father.

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Arrisu said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

If you are townie, you need to keep an open mind that town CAN make mistakes too with their actions, but the way they recover from it should help re-evaluate their alignment in your eyes. You have to remember as town you should not feel confident in any read you make and should be prepared to re-evaluate every little moment something new has happened.

I do tend to keep an open mind my opinion isn't firm its subject to change. Aggresive players like ari normally are quite confident so I know she wouldn't train someone as hard as dono unless she had complete confidence in her view. I will not hold it against her if she is wrong but doesn't mean I'll also over look any alignment indictiveness either from the lynch. I'm prepared to evaluate all my reads during and after the twilight phase because people are subjected to changed based on these lynch results unless both are town then at that point not sure what to think XD.

Doing a vote count analysis is totally fine, but I think it is important to remember that Ari did not do this all on her own. dono would not be here if she was the only one who thought dono was scummy.
I also expect you to do some legwork this twilight phase and actually scum hunt between both Soren AND aa-dono (not just Soren) to prove to me that you are interested in gathering information instead of waiting to condemn the mistakes players have made.

I also disagree that all aggressive players are confident.

If i implied they all are i'm sorry was just using ari as an example lol.

It's actually the wavering in confidence with aggressive player's that help discern the alignments IMO.

Good player will never waver lol regardless of alignment that's what makes someone like ari so scary if she actually is scum XD.

This is literally your only reason to chase after me over & over again in each game we've played for the last few months. You are so focused on "what if she is scum" that you are completely blinded by my actual efforts in helping town.

Here's the twist. @Shinichi-kun what about what IF she is town? if she is THAT GOOD then why are so excited to lynch her possibly day 1? Do you not see her as a valuable asset as possible town, would she not benefit your "town" team?

I see both tbh, i know how good ari is i've never once doubted her ability to be an asset to town but she can also be an asset to the scum team a verys trong asset which i don't wanna overlook just yet because of her scum hunting and pro town motives.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Crossbell said:

Arrisu said:
@Crossbell - Mostly gut. I also don't think scum Soren would be so easily compliant with being sent to Twilight phase. He would have worked harder beforehand to get himself out of there. But I could be wrong, Soren's playstyle has changed recently. So take my words with a grain of salt regarding this.

Hm the only one on that train that could be seen as scummy is Shinichi-kun. A part of me wants to believe that he is town but all the while his behaviour during the Twilight phase so far is interesting. He's pushing a lynch on Soren yet hasn't announced him as being one of his "scum-reads" at all throughout the game. It's a bit bizarre that he was so willing to hop onto Soren's train to save himself instead of just voting against dono, a "null read".

That's another reason why I am leaning on Soren being town. Shinichi makes no mention of wanting dono to be lynched, but readily accepts Soren's lynch. Yet it makes no sense, because he also has a null read on Soren as well.

Basically if dono flips scum, I'm lead to believe that Shinichi is also scum.

Thank you for this.

You raise good points with scum!Soren not being sent to twilight phase but I literally was just burnt by this with PentaFlare in Tsundere Madness, so I am unsure what to expect of Soren here. I do recall that in Tsundere Madness he was extremely lurky; is that true for him of both alignments?

The point with Shinichi is intriguing and I'll have to think about it more. My gut is still leaning towards him being noob town since he feels similar to how he played in Shounen Crossover.

Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

Soren has been different than his normal game lately, as if he hasn't been as attentive to playing mafia or as interested lately so it is difficult to comment from my side.

Rather not get a noob pass smh cross lol

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Shinichi-Kun said:
Can we go back to worrying about soren and dono lol cause they are the targets not me and ari.

WHY? You are the only one online and I wasn't feeling so hot with you slipping out of twilight phase so I am taking my chance to learn more about you.
I ain't going to waste the extra time I get this phase, this is just an extension to Day 1 and you caught my eye then.
If I sat and wait for dono/Soren to post then I only took advantage a few hours of a whole extra day for this phase.
By all means I have NOT forgot about them, I am eagerly waiting for their posts but the fact of the matter is they have not posted (Soren has a bit but I want more, I want his D1 thoughts, a few reads) and waiting for dono to get home to post.

Guess you have a point cause no one was on but their are other topics you can talk about and i have plenty of other reads so why not ask me about other's whats with the specific focus on my ari read?

Crossbell said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Shinichi (aka Kaito) is an experienced player, I don't see why he gets a noob pass.

It's just that he easily gets pressured/attracts lynch attention as both alignments (thinking of Shounen Crossover and Corpse Party here).

People love me <3 just ask jack, also i'm not easily pressured I give the responses people want though sometimes my wording and reaction does give off bad vibes.

Your Ari was one of your stronger scum reads according to your vote pattern in Day 1 so it caught my attention.
But you know what I am interested in. I'm interested in what you think of dono/Soren again, out of the 2 who do you want to see lynched, 1 lynch, double lynch, no lynch?

Can't say for sure till i've heard dono speak. I don't wanna go for a double lynch and if for a second i think both are town i'll be voting no lynch.

Well I know it's not spite, prob cause people seem my playstyle as scummy on top of the fact i'm terrible at wording 50% of the stuff I say leading to huge misunderstandings.

can you give me an example?

Why?

Well, you claim misunderstandings are one of the main reasons to cause you to be a lynch target, do you have an example in this game that you feel was a misunderstanding to get you targetted?

Jun 12, 2016 9:25 PM

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