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Mar 19, 2016 2:18 PM

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Plus Denja, your usefulness for finding roles is going to come in handy.
Mar 19, 2016 2:19 PM

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unfortunately I have to leave. I will miss the phase change..... Godspeed to all of us xDD

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Mar 19, 2016 2:54 PM

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Plus Denja, your usefulness for finding roles is going to come in handy.
heyyyyy im gonna do something im gonna regret. xDD

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Mar 19, 2016 3:09 PM

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DenjaX said:
SoulEaterQUEEN said:
Plus Denja, your usefulness for finding roles is going to come in handy.
heyyyyy im gonna do something im gonna regret. xDD

I might be in love with you lol.
well played.
Mar 19, 2016 4:16 PM

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Cant say that I havent been in this kind of situation before. xDD I think I found a way to play things from here. But I need Lucians opinion on the mess that Ive caused. lol


BTW good job QUEEN. you remained rogue for us despite the unforseen developments xD

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Mar 19, 2016 4:20 PM

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guaranteed you'll be watched tonight.
issue is that if you claim being rbed, you might get found out from the watcher if no one targets you.
Mar 19, 2016 4:21 PM

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unless I am wrong to assume this?
/sigh I feel like I might be best candidate to be the one to kill again. I worked so hard to make myself seem like town today lol.
Mar 19, 2016 4:24 PM

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now to consider who we want to rb/kill tonight.
I want cop dead, I don't care about the arsonist that much.
thinking of doing coro/_Claire_
Mar 19, 2016 4:25 PM

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just pray for Asu to flip watcher xDD

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Mar 19, 2016 4:34 PM

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We should consider going after Doki next phase.
His play in D2 was rather weak.

Hmm, I sorta earned Jack's trust this phase, I hope his inconfidence doesn't make him turn on me.
Mar 19, 2016 9:42 PM

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Before anything else, I want Lucian to see this first. I just pulled of something that you may not like. I am sorry if you wont like what happened when you were gone.

So yeah. This is a mess... I'm sorry I did some crazy stunts out there. The feeling of stress and adrenaline from this game is so refreshing lmao. Reminded me why I like mafia games.

So yeah back to business:
Asunyan is dead and flipped watcher. This is the best result I could ever imagine. Idk how you did it QUEEN but you nailed this one! props to you xDD

We need to deliberate carefully on who should we kill and rb tonight. This is a critical phase were living in xDD We have to make the right choice.

Worst case scenarios that could happen on Day 3:

-Vigilante killed me -> Lucian will be doomed in the process leaving QUEEN by herself.
-One of us got doused -> yeah I think arsonist is still the menace here but I'm thinking QUEEN can be one of the candidates because you did not really stand out xDD Arsonist would not bother dousing a potential lynchee
-Lucian got investigated -> other cop will show up and reveal that Lucian is guilty or hidden role cop powers. I couldn't try to convince everyone that the other role cop is the opposite one and have Lucian lynched flipping the real L and I will be killed next for sure.
-QUEEN got investigated -> well then...
-Lucian remained inactive -> ....
-WurstPanda -> "If something chaotic started by Denja then policy lynch him because he is most likely scum" I trust that he will be apathetic for town xDD

Ideal scenarios that could happen on Day 3:
-The other cop will investigate me -> I will be confirmed innocent for sure.
-Lucian got investigated -> other cop will show up and reveal that Lucian is guilty. I managed to convince everyone that the other role cop is the opposite one and save Lucian from a lynch.
-Nobody here got investigated -> oye


Things that would people discuss in Day 3:
-Me and Lucian are still alive -> I can claim RB and spout more BS. idk how can I pull off Lucian's safety... I have to come up with a proper strategy. They might think Lucian is the godfather... Huge backfire if this comes up because if he dies, he will flip L and I will get a ticket to the afterlife xDD
-Why mafia killed -insert person here- rather than me or Lucian


Plan:
-QUEEN will do what she always does. Don't worry about you being rogue on us. Question us if necessary but be careful with your words xDD
-I will claim RB and spout any BS I could come up with to save the mafia xDD I know this wont last long that's why I now need QUEEN to remain alive as possible to keep up with this charade.
-Have faith to the arsonist to make the right call xDD
-Do not die. Make town think that there are only 2 mafias left so they will never expect the MYLO

-Or Lucian will step up and claim L to counterclaim me and lynch me xDD This is too extreme lmao

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Mar 19, 2016 10:09 PM

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Hmmm okay I like to think about possible roles for everyone to deduce the night kill.
1 thing is that Claire is very hot and bothered of the cop claiming which I found interesting to see. She keeps saying kill nothing about rb so I don't know if she's the rb.
2 Chione could be executionist cuz she was really into asun but normally she's active in pressure lynches so I think she's being sketchy. Arsonist is a possibility.
3 the other cop, not jack cuz he would've no doubt pressured me himself but didn't because he's pretty interested in my alignment.
4 the fact that I wasn't investigate yet could tell me cop is one of the inactives like tingles or coromandel even
5 Kasai doesn't give 2 shits about rc so I'mguessing he isn't cop. I don't call bluff on his rc. I'm secretly hoping jack might try to go after him.
6 I think indi is coroner.not a lover just because she's playing incredibly stupid and selfish, she probably doesn't see the importance of coroner

I might think about this more later
Mar 20, 2016 8:50 AM

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Hey, sorry for leaving you guys in a bad position. Thanks for the counter train btw, it was well executed. Stellar communication between you guys.

I was camping in the cold visiting maple syrup distilleries. I also learned there are some guys in Quebec that literally control the market price of the world's maple syrup.
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Mar 20, 2016 8:53 AM

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LucianRoy said:
Hey, sorry for leaving you guys in a bad position. Thanks for the counter train btw, it was well executed. Stellar communication between you guys.

I was camping in the cold visiting maple syrup distilleries. I also learned there are some guys in Quebec that literally control the market price of the world's maple syrup.

Welcome back.
I will give you some to catch up to the game/events. I will check back in a few hours to see what kind of input you've come up with.
Maple syrup is awesome.
Mar 20, 2016 1:19 PM

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I'm choosing to not follow up on Jack's vote with me because I don't want to start any ad hom fights.

This is exactly why I didn't want to be called out on this.

The funny thing is, I vouched that it was unfair before I was even converted, but Jack knows me by my old meta, so now he'll tunnel me for something that was originally incorrect.
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Mar 20, 2016 1:22 PM

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But he did call me out correctly on the no-reading thing. I can stop that.
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Mar 20, 2016 1:25 PM

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I think Jack is third party now anyway, and I could push him, but I really don't want to start any fights. Like, I really really don't want to. I'm walking on my tip toes here.

Also, you know what, I'm really sorry I called Lamb out this. Me of all people should know better, and just shut up. Next time, I'm not chiming in on matters like this. New rule.
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Mar 20, 2016 1:33 PM

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"I expect him to do the same to me later"

Ha, now that's where you're wrong.

But damn, yeah, Jack saw right through my vote on Kasai.
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Mar 20, 2016 1:48 PM

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"If I am one of the lovers, the coroner will know. If I am the coroner, the lovers will know. I trust whoever knows to keep their mouths shut to save themselves." -indi

Indi is the hider obv.
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Mar 20, 2016 2:10 PM

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LucianRoy said:
"If I am one of the lovers, the coroner will know. If I am the coroner, the lovers will know. I trust whoever knows to keep their mouths shut to save themselves." -indi

Indi is the hider obv.
what made you say that? That statement actually confused me.

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Mar 20, 2016 2:17 PM

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Oh wait, nvm, I was thinking she could see who she targets as hider. It made sense for a moment since I saw the hider choose Dough n1.
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Mar 20, 2016 2:27 PM

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Chione could possibly be Dough's lover, and for that, I don't think I want to investigate her. It's really down to Jack, _Claire_, or Karote.
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Mar 20, 2016 2:29 PM

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I vote Jack. He's a hard ass neutral read a lot of the time so he won't slip up on soft claiming his role.
Mar 20, 2016 2:31 PM

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Are you sure about Jack?
I have a gut-feeling he's TP, but I'm down with getting surprised.
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Mar 20, 2016 2:42 PM

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Are you sure about Jack?
I have a gut-feeling he's TP, but I'm down with getting surprised.

Even if he was TP, and he happens to be an arsonist then we can use him at some point.
I know Denja has got executioner vibes but Jack still remains somewhat passive with the voting choices, which makes me think of he was executioner why is he behaving so carefully? That one has enough skill to make good reasoning for almost any player sp voting someone with a case shouldn't be an issue. I don't think he's been gunned down as scum.
unless am I missing something about the executioner role?
Mar 20, 2016 2:43 PM

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Another one we may want to consider is coromandel. But she didn't play very much less phase so I couldn't really get past a neutral read.
Mar 20, 2016 2:45 PM

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How about Claire?
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Mar 20, 2016 2:52 PM

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LucianRoy said:
How about Claire?

I kind of want to murder them at some point.
Mar 20, 2016 2:53 PM

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Ahh, ok, Jack it is.
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Mar 20, 2016 4:26 PM

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Didn't expect Jack to be a Roleblocker. He masked it well.
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Mar 20, 2016 5:57 PM

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Just as a reminder, we want to kill Panda eventually. I would strongly suggest against having any confirmed town players as we near the end game, aside from me of course.

Also, we have to kill conf. so it looks semi-normal that neither myself nor Denja die.
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Mar 20, 2016 7:07 PM

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@Flopsy, would players receive a pm stating they've been doused?
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Mar 20, 2016 7:29 PM

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They might.
Mar 20, 2016 7:49 PM

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coo
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Mar 21, 2016 8:18 AM

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That wouldn't make any sense. Panda's being shite.
Remember I said I targeted Dough N1 and I got the hider as a result n1?
Dough is leading the train ATM, so he probably didn't get the memo.
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Mar 21, 2016 9:05 AM

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LucianRoy said:
That wouldn't make any sense. Panda's being shite.
Remember I said I targeted Dough N1 and I got the hider as a result n1?
Dough is leading the train ATM, so he probably didn't get the memo.
Wait you are not making sense here. I thought you said Doughkey is lover?

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Mar 21, 2016 12:50 PM

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I got two results, one for Doughkey as the lover, and the other for the hider which definitely targetted him in the same night.
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Mar 21, 2016 1:21 PM

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Combination of errors. Me being converted when a kill was intended---> Me getting bussed for reasons prior to conversion by own teammate-----> Me having to follow up on said reasons and being read scummy due to the blatant discrepancy------> Me being offline and away for the weekend-----> Me not being able to advise against Denja claiming my role------> our charade is found out------> We both get lynched, shot, or a combination of the two-----> Soul is left on her own, but the odds are nowhere near her favor so she becomes discouraged with the game, and eventually lynched------> We lose.
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Mar 21, 2016 1:22 PM

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At least we can learn from our mistakes. Or my mistakes. Whichever works tbh.
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Mar 21, 2016 1:31 PM

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So pessimistic lol. Thank me later if we still end up crawling our way. xDD Sure, this is a tough road but it's not impossible.

When I replaced somebody, we are already at a disadvantage with Iss dead Day 1. But I'm not losing hope anytime soon. I still see a lot of possibilities that we can take to win this.

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Mar 21, 2016 1:36 PM

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The root of the problem lies within the plans of the scumteam believe it or not. As soon as I was converted, that was hickup 1 in the scumteam's plan, thus they had to adapt and redraw their former plans accounting for me as well. This spiraled into their later decision of comping for me due to the new addition, which in turn led to us all getting killed. Of course there were other mistakes that compounded to the problem, like my teammates bussing me at inopportune times plus me dealing with the bus badly plus the team not achieving their second night kill, which only hindered their agenda even further.

Out of all of these mistakes, it could possibly be traced back to the decision for Soul and Iss to bus eachother in RVS. Something I unfortunately picked up on, and got hit over the head with later on.

Enh, what can I expect with a bastard game? Swingy, unpredictable, and shite like this was bound to happen.
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Mar 21, 2016 1:40 PM

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Think whatever you want man. Be apathetic if you want to. I can work it out still if I have to take that into account.

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Mar 21, 2016 3:12 PM

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There is a chance we could pull through, but it's dependant on a whole lot of unknown variables, terrible usage of power-roles on behalf of the town, and straight-up luck.

I don't think we should throw in the towel quite yet, but things are looking dim.
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Mar 21, 2016 3:13 PM

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I don't believe we'll mass claim today.
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Mar 21, 2016 3:19 PM

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I'm depressed from reading this.
Mar 21, 2016 3:29 PM

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^ This is the exact reason I wanted you in this game :3
Thanks for making it worthwhile~
Mar 21, 2016 3:32 PM

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So we have some priorities to work out
1) get rid of the damn arsonist
2) kill at least one RBer, the one who seems unpredictable. I'm kind of wondering if Claire is an RBer?
3) the other damn cop

I can only do my utmost best to survive for another night or 2.
But at some point, you'll both have to slaughter me while I do my best to scum DenjaX, maybe.
so that maybe in my death, town will have some hope they killed 2/3 mafia members. That way they they might look elsewhere besides the 2 of you, and the two of you can unify a panicked town to control the votes. Lucian can use his scum hunt/pressure skills while DenjaX can act town as he always does.you have to find a way to get town to slaughter each other at that point. Keep some inactives alive so they won't mass claim on your asses, or players who are stubborn to claim.

Otherwise I don't know what's going to happen. Do not at all try to save me or mark me as innocent on an investigation. I fucked up day 1, and someone will pick up on it and even if I get innocent results well, they might think I'm the godfather and when my role slips after death - good luck.
Mar 21, 2016 3:36 PM

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There is a chance we could pull through, but it's dependant on a whole lot of unknown variables, terrible usage of power-roles on behalf of the town, and straight-up luck.

I don't think we should throw in the towel quite yet, but things are looking dim.
Exactly. A lot of unknown variables are at play here. So many possibilities that's what makes the game interesting. We might be at a disadvantage but we are definitely not losing. Beating yourself with that is not productive.

Last thing I will have to deal with is negativity. This never helps anyone.

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Mar 21, 2016 3:54 PM

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Believe it or not, the arsonist is a gamble I'm willing to take at this point in the game.
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Mar 21, 2016 4:03 PM

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If things do devolve into a roleclaim situation, which might happen sooner than we think, we need to kill Coro asap to prevent the clash between roleblocks. I think Lamb slipped in my game that they we Vig, but I could be wrong. There's also the strong possibility they're the arsonist.
However, the better strategy would be roleblocking Coro again just to test if a theory is true, and killing Jack tonight.

Indi might be Dough's lover/ useless spec.
I saw a subtle defense of her in the thread, and that would tie into her softing a passive role.
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