| Are you tired of always being one in the shadows. Have you made simfiles that you think are neatly done and fun to play? Having trouble sharing it with others? Well this is the thread for you then. Simfileauthors, rejoice. Here starts your new era. This thread will not only discuss how to make simfiles, but also sharing them with others and getting their opinion. What can you do to be a better one? Only within this thread lies the answer. |
MrSanjuroSep 24, 2008 12:16 PM
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| lol at ZoiQ's response I think this thread is a good idea. Nobody ever leave comments on Bemanistyle and FFR so this will turn out to be really useful. |
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| I finished one yesterday! I'm gonna go to my dad's to get my camera and make a vid of me playing it before I release the .dwi. It's made for the keyboard and I rated it an 11. I got a 91%. Hopefully some of you guys are pretty good! My profile on FFR is flashflashrevolution.com/profile/danny53x. You can view the steps here: http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8673/irresistiblementyc6.png I know it's only an edit to Irresistiblement off of 8th Mix (Extreme), but I've made others. Sometimes it's hard to get the right tempos for some songs because sometimes there is no steady beat. Anyway, I hope to see this club flourish with new members, experienced and inexperienced :] |
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| I'm really bad at SM but I have fun making songs. This could be a great resource for me~! Kudos for having a great idea. :D All my stepfles can be found here: kirisame.awardspace.com. Although, I must warn. The files are all separate and most of them are hosted somewhere really, really sucky. So the DL rates might be terrible. The newer ones (they are ordered by number) are hosted on mediafire and therefore should be faster. :3 I'm not really good at making them yet (even though I've made quite a bit) so please, some constructive criticism. ;3 |
NiacinamideMar 2, 2008 1:58 PM
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| Oh well, I guess I have to give some critics. I played 1000% Sparking - Euro Mix - and Imperishable Screaming Show. Both of them were first off-synch. Synch is really important. I can write a guide later on how to synch songs. Secondly, in Stepmania you should be able while playing follow something from the song. Like if theres a fast bass or the trance beat for example. There are times when you don't follow anything but make up your own kind of beat, but that still fits into the song. Well, that level is hard to reach in making so forget about it for now. Mostly, I couldn't tell what you were following, and cause of the off-synch there was a major stamp of "beginnermaker" on the songs. My suggestion is to first learn how to synch your songs into perfection. Next thing is to learn how to follow something from the song. Next up is to see if you self are able to AA it, because when making a song your playinglevel depends on when making a song. It's easier for you to make a song that's on your level, example 8-9 and make it good. Well, no worries. You got plenty of time in learning how to make songs. |
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| Thank you for the advice! I'll work on syncing them and following the beat a little more closely. |
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| So you need our opinion on them? Well, go ahead and post them. That is what this thread is for. |
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| The code did, but the links didn't o.ô |
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| Still refuses to connect me :| |
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| Sorry about the late reply, I have been """""""""""""busy""""""""""""". About the simfile, the synch is correct and the bpm too. But rather apart from that, it's really chaotic. I cannot see/hear what you are following at times. To me, it seems like you're just spamming doubles here and there. Well, it was kind of good except for being able to know what you are following. But besides that, I would rate it about 5-6. |
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| Well, patterns make the song looks more professional. And it's true that doubles makes the song harder, but random doubles makes it looks like a total beginner have made it. Well, I can see that you aren't a total beginner at making songs. Just keep it up, make songs which you can AA with not too much trouble. Those songs tends to be really good. The most important in a song is that it should be fun to play. |
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| Of course, I am an simfileauthor after all. http://www.bemanistyle.com/sims/profile.php?id=144790 |
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 Good improvement. Still felt like some part in the beginning was a bit off, but that may just be me. You really like doubles huh? |
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XI Distortion is indeed a great theme, but after using it for 4-5 months you tend to get a bit tired of it.  The video in the first song startled me, since I'm using a noteskin which is pretty colorful which made it hard to see them cause of the...video. :/ Pretty okay simfiles. I think your last one was better. Try to vary instead of making it that chaotic all the time. Like, do the verse non-chaotic and let the chorus be chaotic. It makes it funnier and looks better. |
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| I'm gonna try them...when I got time x_x |
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| You can always send in some songs you've made. I have already gotten a few submissions from people. |
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| You can send in as many as you like, but max 3 from each person can come in the pack. |
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| Well, I'm also a simfile author but I only make Pad steps. You can see the better group of my simfiles here http://neothe0ne.wordpress.com/ (at bemanistyle I have a lot more, but I'm not satisfied with the steps/audio/video/banner quality with all of those, so ignore those for the time being >_>) MrSanjuro, can I have details about your Pack? Narrowing down to 3 songs actually wouldn't be too hard for me ^__^;; |
| Details? Alright Any song is welcome. Any genre and any length of the song. Make whatever you want. I won't be too strict when judging, but I won't allow crappy simfiles to pass. I also got help from two friends when judging. Deadline for submitting simfiles will be 6 weeks forward. You can send in max 10 songs per person, and max 3 songs from each person can be with (except for me 8) ). I plan on releasing it in about 2-3 months. When submitting a simfile, banner/background/cdtitle is A MUST. Songs without any of these will not be accepted. If you're bad at making cdtitles, I can make one for you but it will be a plain one with only your name and no figure in it. Other stuff. 1: A song with only one difficulty must be a +10 footer and over 3 minutes long. 2: A song that is shorter than 3 minutes must have at least two difficultys. 3: A song with no banner/background will not be allowed. 4: A song over 5 minutes (marathon) will be judged stricter due to that people may lack the will to make it good at the end. 5: Any songs that is submitted after 20 August will not be accepted. I'll be traveling away this sunday (6th July) and will be gone to early August, so you got plenty of time unless you also have traveled away. I'm gonna send this as a Private Message to everyone too. //MrSanjuro |
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| I am making an Index Stepfile too - so far 1 minute is completed - difficulty around 8-9 |
| ~five exclamation marks is the sure sign of an insane mind~ |
| And we are on a roll! - the first 70 seconds are done, timed and perfect - with quite alot of variation :D - 3 minutes to go |
| ~five exclamation marks is the sure sign of an insane mind~ |
| Almost done now - expect the release today or tomorow :D |
| ~five exclamation marks is the sure sign of an insane mind~ |
| And it is done!!!! http://www.bemanistyle.com/sims/simfile.php?id=26817 Anime: To Aru Majutsu no Index Song: Psi-Missing Artist: Kawada Mami Difficulty: Hard 8 Made by: N0iR and Sabrac (Evilme) Other info: It pwns Please be gentle - it is our first stepfile ;) Constructive criticism appreciated Go play it now ! |
-N0iR-Nov 3, 2008 12:45 PM
| ~five exclamation marks is the sure sign of an insane mind~ |
-N0iR- said: And it is done!!!! http://www.bemanistyle.com/sims/simfile.php?id=26817 Anime: To Aru Majutsu no Index Song: Psi-Missing Artist: Kawada Mami Difficulty: Hard 8 Made by: N0iR and Sabrac (Evilme) Other info: It pwns Please be gentle - it is our first stepfile ;) Constructive criticism appreciated Go play it now ! You may want to look at my own file (http://www.bemanistyle.com/sims/simfile.php?id=26742) to understand more of my complaint below. The file is for pad which limits the extent to which I can step certain close sounds before becoming physically impossible, but it's definitely got a better sense of rhythm than your file. Posted on bms, will post here too: Please upload the SM file in the future so people can preview the chart before dl. The one, 8 footer chart: rainbow arrows = bad. All those arrows should only be red, blue, and yellow, as they should all fall on 4th, 8th, and 16th beats. There are no ubiquitous funky 32nds or 12ths or 24ths in the song, so adjust your offset. Also, I thought I read on MAL that there would be an instrumental layer: I don't see it. This is way too karaoke for even a Pad chart, let alone KB. |
| No offense - but being kareoke is exactly the POINT - I tried your version actually - and to me everything seem off. I think it is a shame to use repetitive background beats, that no-one can hear anyways - instead of the actual singing, which is that which you humn, when you humn the song and that which you remember. Every step is designated to an easily hearable sound in this version - about the colors - that is a minor thing, that shouldn't really bother anyone - besides teal is pretty Also this version is designed for keyboard only. And btw - don't misunderstand me - I do not think this sim-file is perfect, or that I know better and stuff. It's just that we made it this way on purpose. |
-N0iR-Nov 3, 2008 3:50 PM
| ~five exclamation marks is the sure sign of an insane mind~ |
-N0iR- said: I think it is a shame to use repetitive background beats, that no-one can hear anyways...Every step is designated to an easily hearable sound in this version... It'll be easier for me to point out measures where I have no idea what you are listening to, rather than measures where obvious sounds were not stepped that is not part of the "repetitive background beats": See measures 23, 32-33, 51, 63, 72-73, 138-140 Also I have no idea what your jumps go to, it seems to just randomly be single or jump depending on how you felt at the second. |
| I also tried the simfile, and this is my rating for it. 2.5/10. ;_; First, make sure to synch it. It was a bit off-synch, and really off-beat. It was really ugly seeing all those beige arrows. Red, blue and yellow arrows are used most. Then you must decide, should this be a PAD file or a Keyboard file? Or both? Those quadholds came really from nowhere and made me go "WTF". Avoid those for easier simfiles. Also, try to vary a bit. It became really boring after awhile to follow the vocals only. Listen to the song, find a nice sound to follow or try to mix jumps, holds and singles so that they follow. Make a cdtitle too. And fix your banner. Seeing the file without a banner/cdtitle leaves a big mark of "NOOB" on it. No offense. |
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| If you want, I can make you a cdtitle. I can do some pretty okay photoshop works. Just send me a small chibi picture of a char you want to have in it and the name you use as author. For the banner, it doesn't have to be anything astonishing. Just the name written in paint with a small picture from the background is good. Just make sure that the font and color matches a bit with the picture at least. :p This is my cdtitle.  |
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MrSanjuro said: First, make sure to synch it. It was a bit off-synch, and really off-beat. It was really ugly seeing all those beige arrows. Red, blue and yellow arrows are used most. Im not really sure what you mean here - first of all - all the arrows are TEAL on my pc, and red/blue/yellow arrows where all off-sync. I played the entire song through on 0.5 speed with *claps* to check, and to me they match perfectly, so I dont see why they shouldnt for you... (this is ofc if you try to match it to the VOICE and not the background beat) MrSanjuro said: Then you must decide, should this be a PAD file or a Keyboard file? Or both? Those quadholds came really from nowhere and made me go "WTF". Avoid those for easier simfiles. well - It is designed for keyboard - and it says so on the site aswell - so I don't see this as a problem MrSanjuro said: Also, try to vary a bit. It became really boring after awhile to follow the vocals only. Listen to the song, find a nice sound to follow or try to mix jumps, holds and singles so that they follow. I am not sure what you are getting at here too - there was pleeeenty of variation in this song - the singing passages was ofcause bound by the fact that I followed the voice, but if I were to change this mid way it would just be weird and forced. You could say the same about using a sound as you suggest - wouldnt that be at least as boring after a while? There are plenty of non-singing passages using non-singing sounds, that stand out - actually only 50% of the song has singing in it - and I had alot of mixing when it came to jumps holds and singles. so basically I do not understand what the problem is other than that I did not use the background beat, which imo often is very hard to hear and thus less intuitive. Now this is not to sound clever or anything but I really dont get it - what is it that is wrong? I really want to know incase I want to make another (kareoke) song in the future |
-N0iR-Nov 4, 2008 6:28 AM
| ~five exclamation marks is the sure sign of an insane mind~ |
| Noir: The problem is primarily 3 things the way I see it. 1) Offbeat arrows. The primary downbeat MUST be a Red 4th arrow if you want your simfile to be taken seriously. Also, your arrows are primarily orange (32nd), purple (12th), and pink (24th). There is no teal arrow in StepMania's default rhythm colors. 2) When there are vocals, you act like the bgm doesn't exist. This does not work because you are generally supposed to step to prominent sounds. There are many cases of percussion that are not part of the repetitive background in PSI-missing which you ignored, and you also made a couple of streams to background sounds which are harder to hear than anything I stepped in my pad file (see measure 32: i'm pretty sure you just pulled that stream out of thin air because I don't here anything in the song like that) 3) Random single/jump placements. You should choose a consistent beat/sound and/or accented sounds to make jumps. At the moment, it seems to me that jumps are just randomly placed without any musical backing to the decision. If you fix those 3 things, it'd be a much better file. Also, this is something many Pad (and KB, in some of the more prominent simming communities) are going to complain about: If you're making a simfile that's below 10 footer, it should be Paddable, meaning that there should be no doublestepping and no jump jacks. |
| lol sorry, forgot totally about the cdtitle. ;_; I'll make it tonight. |
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