Isn't MC just a self centered, immature Brat (Spoilers of course)

Mathi786 said:
@TempestDrak Firstly I have to say I'm impressed, you're actually building a coherent argument, Did your body got switched by an alien or something, earlier you were spouting total nonsense so it's good to see growth,

Now going to the movie, From the beginning my opinion wasn't about the dad but it's about the MC, his selfishness and his Idiocracy,
Every decision he made was wrong, He villainsed his dad, and yes like Earlier, I'll acknowledge the fact that Dad's drinking habit is totally wrong, there is no excuse for drinking ever, but other then that MC's pathetic attempts to show how gravely traumatized he is and when he was desperately trying to have panic attacks to achieve our sympathies was so irritating, I see nothing wrong with his dad getting another women, He lost his daughter,wife and son too kind of, Shouldn't he rebuild his life, He should and that's what he was doing, MC's reaction to that was totally wrong and unjustified, It would've been fine if his mother died and his father got a new women in 3 months but his mother is fine, so that whole puking thing was rubbish,

Lastly, the last nail in the coffin was the ending, I started to dislike his character from ending, he gave up his life, his family, his love and went to get the sister back but, when he got there, he literally didn't even spoke to her properly, that tells you enough about his trauma regarding his sister's death, he didn't even hug her, it made the whole farce and panic attacks look so artificial and annoying, It seems like MC didn't give a fuck about her sister's death, it was always about him and oh his little fragile feelings, hence the selfishness

Anyway that's my point of view, I would like a constructive reply tho

Mathi786 said:
@TempestDrak I'm loving the new way of argument, it would've been nice if everyone was like that, ok now in your argument I'll say that I agree with somethings and I don't agree with somethings, I'll try to list them one by one.

1) First point is totally valid, I said many times and I'll say it again, Drinking has no excuse, that's a bad behavior, dad or nobody should drink at all, so I agree with you
2) Anybody who looses their loved ones gets traumatized, no matter the teen or adult, just bcz your age is bit less than the other doesn't mean you can behave irresponsibly, just bcz he's 17 doesn't mean that he can't be held accountable, this is fundamentally wrong, he has no right to be an Asshole,
3) this point is also the same with the second point, it's not only adults responsibility that he has to get over it, it's both of their responsibilities to behave like mature people, so putting the whole thing is one party is unfair and wrong, and also I don't think that bringing and introducing another women is wrong at all
4)This is point is ok I think, he should've considered MC's feelings but it also goes the other way around, MC is treating his dad like an enemy, Kindness and maturity should go both ways, Also there's something I'd like to point out that taking care of the other person isn't just talking but also can be shown with how you act with them, MC's dad is putting food on the table, sending him to school, paying the bills, He didn't just abandoned MC like the mom, he took care of him according to his own capacity, MC can't take that granted, His father is showing him kindness by taking care of him, he's just not emotionally available bcz he's also traumatized which is understandable,

5,6,7) these points are kind of the same related to the death of the sister so I'll answer them altogether, I think in the ending fault doesn't lie with just the MC but also with the Plot, bcz first the rule was that every desire will be fulfilled but then in the end they said you'll find the lost things, but why did that parrot came back to them, didn't he die a long time ago, If the parrot can come to life then why can't the sister, Even if you say that only lost things can come back then you can loosely say that sister was also lost to death and so she can come back, What I'm trying to say is that I think the plot is weak at ending, but after he found out he can't get the sister back he didn't even talked to her, like at that time she was in front of her, and she was real deal, she just can't get out of that time tunnel but she still alive in that tunnel, but he didn't even gave her a thought and ran back, That was the point where my irritation of MC got solidified,

All in all I'd say I don't have a problem with MC's bad behavior cz yes it's possible all of that is bcz he's going through a tragedy,The only problem I have is that movie tries to manipulate the audience into liking the MC and disliking the dad, It would've been fine if it was unbiased and simply showed characters getting their life together but it just manipulates the viewers,
(Also while writing this I realized that sister died when MC was a child, that means in movie time, it's been years since her death, If I'm not wrong and her death was years ago and both the MC and the dad are behaving like that then fuck both of them, my hatred for MC grew more than it was before and for the father too, But for MC still more,)

Anyway that's all I have to say about this movie and I'm also done with argument and with this thread, I hope we can close this topic now, I also hope anzu dump this guy and get a some cool anime protagonist cz she's pretty good