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Oct 22, 2018 3:00 AM
#1251
| @GDV as usual, thanks for the spoilers! And just had a thought about Narumiya's seemingly cold attitude: it's true that Inashiro have gone to Koshien twice in a row, but they've failed to take the crown. As a third year, it's his last chance to do that so I think that this desperation will make him an even more dangerous rival this tournament. I know he's stronger than that, but if as explected, Inashiro fails to qualify for Koshien, it'll be incredibly hard for him to deal with that. |
Oct 22, 2018 3:55 AM
#1252
| Looks good It's cool to see Sawamura getting acknowledgement from his rival schools hopefully we can move on from the Sawamura / Furuya rivallry so Sawamura can challenge himself against the best in Tokyo. Mei attitude is probably just about right where I am expected but his situation and Furuya's are completely different Inashiro didn't ever have legitimate replacement for Mei while Seido did as Sawamura for even large parts of the fall tournement was better than the "Ace" |
Oct 22, 2018 11:15 PM
#1253
GDV said: Chapter 143: Greetings players who played with Miyuki in the Tokyo Senbatsu came over to greet him. Raichi was beaming at Sawamura for getting the No. 1 shirt and was super excited about facing Sawamura, Amahisa and Mei in the Tournament. Sanada was glad to find out that Furuya losing the Ace number was not because he was injured so he is relieved to know thinking that then they can focus on beating Seidou without worrying about giving sympathy. Amahisa went over and ask Sawamura why he didn't inform Amahisa about him becoming the Ace despite them already shared their line contact, Sawamura was stopped in his track with that. Amahisa also say if Raichi wants, he'll add him to the group line chat with Sawamura but poor Raichi doesn't have a phone. Tadano tells Mei about Furuya losing the Ace number and that Sawamura is the Ace. Mei says then different from himself, Furuya could not have gotten over the wall. He also notes that no matter who's the opponent, he doesn't care and just going to beat them all regardless. On Sunday, 6th of June, Seidou players gather to watch the video scout of Yura. They discuss how Yura lineup's strength is that they can pull the ball to the right field, especially player No. 12 (a 2nd year). They even reserved their 3rd year Ace but with their 4th batter driving in 3 runs and the team squeeze plays, they won the called game in the 7th inning 11-2. Seidou's debut match will be on 15th of June. Upon seeing the vid, Sawamura says that he has many things to worry about, his Numbers and other stuffs that he wonder will work out or not in the match. Seeing a tense expression from Sawamura, Kawakami give him the advice to stop worrying too much too early or he'll get tired on the following day. Seidou pitchers get in the bullpen on the following day and surprisingly, Miyuki for once tell Kawakami he wants to catch for him. Sawamura thinks about as the Ace of the team, he wants to do everything he can to extend the senior's Summer for as long as possible. Kataoka then receives a call from his old mentor Sasaski telling him that he'll wait for Seidou in the 3rd round and that his team is ready. Both agree on the upcoming exciting match between Seidou and Yura. aaaaaaahhhh i love this update! thanks a lot as always! Sanada talking about injuries is funny. Eijun's rivals talking to him that way is really heartwarming and makes me happy although raichi makes me tear up a bit. Mei's reaction is expected though i am looking forward when they fight it out. Im sure that it will be Seido vs inashiro in the finals. I wanted Miyuki to be able to say to Mei that he made the right choice wholeheartedly. Do you think Miyuki will go to pro directly? How about Mei? Guys do you think this manga will show Eijun playing college baseball or pro? Will it be like Major? |
Oct 23, 2018 6:26 AM
#1254
manganimae said: aaaaaaahhhh i love this update! thanks a lot as always! Sanada talking about injuries is funny. Eijun's rivals talking to him that way is really heartwarming and makes me happy although raichi makes me tear up a bit. Mei's reaction is expected though i am looking forward when they fight it out. Im sure that it will be Seido vs inashiro in the finals. I wanted Miyuki to be able to say to Mei that he made the right choice wholeheartedly. Do you think Miyuki will go to pro directly? How about Mei? Guys do you think this manga will show Eijun playing college baseball or pro? Will it be like Major? Mei and miyuki have high possibility to go pro, i think. They got play to koshien and had good review from media. Tbh, i really hope TJ sensei will continue the story till koshien, not just preliminary like Act I. I dont even think this manga will continue after this summer koshien, because the mc are sawamura and miyuki. But, if the story still continue, it will be interesting to know what the next goal. And i think Major is different from DnA coz it was not focused on koshien. |
genisa246Oct 23, 2018 6:33 AM
Oct 23, 2018 6:35 AM
#1255
manganimae said: aaaaaaahhhh i love this update! thanks a lot as always! Do you think Miyuki will go to pro directly? How about Mei? Guys do you think this manga will show Eijun playing college baseball or pro? Will it be like Major? Not sure about how Miyuki plan to do after high school, he even did not mention any of his plan to his teammates.. He might go pro, or go to college like yuki (former captain) to gain more experience, Mei might go pro, hahaha, I bet there will be a lott of pro scout wants him as he has been one of the best pitchers. I can't remember inajitsu former captain, harada(?), did he went pro or college? I would be happy if the mangaka plans to draw it like major (i bet sawamura go pro since studing is not his forte, and I hope kuromochi with wakana..hahaha) but I don't know whether I can live by waiting one chapter per week, this kind of life kills me.. |
| "It's only us pitchers who can prove for all to see that your gamecalling' choices ain't wrong, yeah?" Sawamura to Okumura before their first official practice game as a battery. |
Oct 23, 2018 7:38 AM
#1256
genisa246 said: manganimae said: aaaaaaahhhh i love this update! thanks a lot as always! Sanada talking about injuries is funny. Eijun's rivals talking to him that way is really heartwarming and makes me happy although raichi makes me tear up a bit. Mei's reaction is expected though i am looking forward when they fight it out. Im sure that it will be Seido vs inashiro in the finals. I wanted Miyuki to be able to say to Mei that he made the right choice wholeheartedly. Do you think Miyuki will go to pro directly? How about Mei? Guys do you think this manga will show Eijun playing college baseball or pro? Will it be like Major? Mei and miyuki have high possibility to go pro, i think. They got play to koshien and had good review from media. Tbh, i really hope TJ sensei will continue the story till koshien, not just preliminary like Act I. I dont even think this manga will continue after this summer koshien, because the mc are sawamura and miyuki. But, if the story still continue, it will be interesting to know what the next goal. And i think Major is different from DnA coz it was not focused on koshien. I think the manga will continue after the summer tourney, it would suck if it won't. The author always hinted the MuraMura battery and even gave new characters backgrounds enough for us to get attached to them. And Wolfboy has a potential to surpass Miyuki as a catcher and as an appealing character. I hope so too that TJ-sensei will continue Eijun's story beyond high school. I've always though about the possibility of possible future plot lines when I remembered the senpais talking about their future careers, and when Tetsu appeared once again in the manga as a college baseball player. It's just me being hopeful. XD |
smell of coffee songs of sleep |
Oct 23, 2018 7:53 AM
#1257
genisa246 said: manganimae said: [spoiler] aaaaaaahhhh i love this update! thanks a lot as always! Sanada talking about injuries is funny. Eijun's rivals talking to him that way is really heartwarming and makes me happy although raichi makes me tear up a bit. Mei's reaction is expected though i am looking forward when they fight it out. Im sure that it will be Seido vs inashiro in the finals. I wanted Miyuki to be able to say to Mei that he made the right choice wholeheartedly. Do you think Miyuki will go to pro directly? How about Mei? Guys do you think this manga will show Eijun playing college baseball or pro? Will it be like Major? Mei and miyuki have high possibility to go pro, i think. They got play to koshien and had good review from media. Tbh, i really hope TJ sensei will continue the story till koshien, not just preliminary like Act I. I dont even think this manga will continue after this summer koshien, because the mc are sawamura and miyuki. But, if the story still continue, it will be interesting to know what the next goal. And i think Major is different from DnA coz it was not focused on koshien.[/spoiler] Considering that Sawamura and Amahisa's seiyuus also do the voice acting for Mikleo and Sorey from Tales of Zestiria, there's no surprise really that Terajima is sort of featuring their friendship/rivalry like a fan service. It's one of the more realistic interaction between the players from the schools really. They are players but they're also high school kids so they play seriously but they also want to have fun, they don't all acts emo like Furuya or Hongou so kudos for Terajima for updating his characters' interaction to be a bit more realistic as of late. His time invested in watching Koshien yearly has really helped. Now on to the players who I think or know would be playing in the pro-level: - Tetsu told Kataoka he wants to go to college so he can come back as a coach for Seidou in the future, pretty much declaring that he'll give up us professional career. Tetsu won't be playing the sport professionally; however, he is still playing competitively in the college/university scene. - Chris looks like he's in college obviously because he didn't get to play in his 3rd year Summer so no matter how good of a player he is, teams won't be able to scout him or draft him if he can't put him result or even play. Chris will be in college trying to recover his former physical abilities, have some breakout performance and gets drafted by some team down the line; hopefully 1 year late because he is just that good if he isn't injured. - Harada has been drafted by a famous team in Hokkaido. If Terajima wants to be realistic instead of creating weird names for the pro-team in-universe, that team that got Harada has to be no other than the Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters. A huge team in the NPB (Big league baseball in Japan) and they're pretty infamous for hogging all the highest profile players out of high school every year like Yuki Saitou, Sho Nakata, Shohei Ohtani, Kiyomiya just to name a few, and is sort of disliked like the Red Sox in the MLB. Harada is now a pro but we don't know for sure if he has been called up to the big league team yet or not or he's still in the minor (sort of like the 2nd string of high school baseball). - Mei will most likely be a 1st draft out of high school. He's been one of the best pitchers in-universe and even if Seidou beats him in Summer, his high profile wouldn't just disappear so a lot of team must be eyeing him out of high school. The only potential problem for a professional team when considering whether to draft Mei or not is his already high work load in his 2nd year as he pitched most of the games for Inajitsu without a backup pitcher or relay so the wear and tear on his arm is high and he may have risked his professional career with that (just like any high school Japan pitcher really); however, Japan is not a country that shy away from over-abusing and/or acquiring pitcher with already high work load so it shouldn't be that big of a problem for Mei. He will be available on the market 1 year before Hongou so he's basically the highest profile pitcher in the high school scene this year in-universe and he'll be 1st round pick by many teams so those teams that want him will have to enter into a random draw to get the right to draft him. Even if he expressed desire to chase after Harada, he may not get the chance to. - Mima, the highest profile player beside Mei of his year, a 5 tools player. Same drill with him, many teams will want him as a 1st draft material, they'll have to enter into a random draw to get him. - Akashii will probably be a 1st round draft for some but most likely a 2nd round draft pick for most because they'll be saving their slot for Mei and Mima. Whichever team that's smart enough to get Akashi will be getting a bargain because they'll get a great pitcher who also knows how to bat, a very rare gem. He's not as good of a pitcher as Mei but is a better batter than Mei. They can decide whether they want his pitching or his batting (mostly his batting) and develop him into a terrifying batter down the road. - Amahisa, easily a 1st round draft for a Tokyo team (aka the Giants) or smaller market teams that know him. However, he'll most likely be a 2nd round pick for most teams because they'll be going after Mei for their Ace pitcher material. Same case with Akashi, whichever team getting Amahisa will be in for a bargain because Amahisa has a very high ceiling and his arm hasn't been as highly taxed as Mei's so he'll most likely going to stay healthier down the road, granted he wants to play baseball professionally at all which I think he will. - Miyuki will be a 1st round draft pick as well considering how popular he's already is with a lot of scouts. He's a catcher who can bats like Harada so he's a rare commodity and something every team loves to have. If the team have some good pitchers especially some high profile pitchers they've acquired from high school as well and they want to complete that battery, they'll try to add Miyuki into their team. However, they'll be breaking their bank on him along with those high profile pitchers. - Hongou will definitely be a 1st round draft pick for many teams. He's the highest profile pitcher and potentially player out of high school of his year and the same deal will happen to him. Many teams will try to draft him and they'll have to enter into a random draw for that. Teams that got Mei or Mima will probably have to lay off Hongou because of their budget which will set up a nicely even professional stage where you'll have these elite pitchers competing against one another just like they did in High school. - Sawamura will be an automatic 1st round draft for a few small market teams like the Lions or the Hawk the moment he beats Mei, Inajitsu and goes to Koshien. He does it again in his 3rd year and that's a guaranteed he's a 1st round pick for at least some teams that can see his potential. Most big, heavy spending teams like the Fighters, the Giants and the Tigers will be going after Hongou and Furuya as the "higher ceiling flame throwers that meets their taste" but the smaller, smarter teams will love to bank on Sawamura. Especially, if he gets to pair up with Chris on the professional stage, good luck stopping them because you'll need it. I'll also love to see Chris have some inputs and requests to his team to get Sawamura as well and Terajima committing on reuniting this epic battery between them for the Professional Act of DNA. Just imagine Chris x Sawamura taking on Miyuki x Furuya or Mei x Harada, what will be more exciting than that. - Furuya, 2nd round draft pick for most but 1st round draft pick for teams like the Giants or the Tigers. The story would be different if Furuya was still the Ace of Seidou but with him falling to No. 11 and if Sawamura continues to be the Ace by his 3rd year, some teams may start writing him off as an expensive investment with mixed potential; thus, dropping him to 2nd round pick; but they'll still watch out to get him nevertheless. Teams that fail to get Hongou will most likely turn to him immediately as their back up pitcher draft. A few teams may be bold enough to try to sneak him in as their their 1st round draft while expecting others to compete for Hongou; however, he'll be expensive regardless due to how much hype he has. There are so much potential for Terajima to go with the Professinoal stage of DNA so personally I sure hope that he'll conitnue writing it. Feature Sawamrua's story in the NPB, then moving to the MLB like Major and becoming a Hall of Famer down the line. |
GDVOct 23, 2018 4:11 PM
Oct 23, 2018 8:23 AM
#1258
| "Just imagine Chris x Sawamura taking on Miyuki x Furuya or Mei x Harada, what will be more exciting than that." Okay, I think I just had a major fangasm right now. #TrueStory. To be honest, I would not mind stopping right after current gen Seido win Koshien if it meant that Daiya no Ace goes pro and we see such batteries facing each other on the NBP arena. That would be really cool indeed. |
Oct 23, 2018 1:31 PM
#1259
Oct 23, 2018 5:44 PM
#1260
| After checking out the raws, it's clear that Yura is strong in batting. Sasaki would know Kataoka very well to understand his thinking and likely play his strongest line-up from the get go against Seidou. That said, I'm going to stick my neck out to guess that Kawakami would be the starting pitcher as Kataoka is still a sentimentalist at heart to give the third year pitcher the start. |
Oct 23, 2018 6:07 PM
#1261
| Nice write-up on the pro prospects, GDV. A probable Hanshin Tigers fan has made dibs on Sawamura and Miyuki Sawamura: https://www.facebook.com/960353737379306/posts/1891255614289109/ Miyuki: https://www.facebook.com/960353737379306/posts/1893069954107675/ |
Oct 23, 2018 9:45 PM
#1262
| Chapter 143: Greetings OP note: even after the opening ceremony, the excitement within the Jingu Stadium is yet to settle down. Mochi (about Shunshin): his Japanese is superb Zono: he couldn't even be on the bench? What a waste... Miyuki: I paired up with him for just 1 inning during the Tokyo Senbatsu matches, he possesses great techniques unlike the run off the mill lot and is a guy who you can trust to have your back, I'm proud to be able to play along with him. note: the old rivals of the same generation have a face to face encounter. Raichi: Kahaha! Mishima: Fuhahah! (obnoxious laughs, seriously) Raichi: Number 1. Sawamura is No. 1? You got more amazing? Kahahah I'm looking forward to it! Sanada (to Furuya): Is wasn't because of an injury or anything was it? Furuya shook his head Sanada: ...I see, then we can face off to our hearts' content. Amahisa: Oi, sawamura~~!! Ain't you wearing No. 1!! Why didn't you let me know!! Sawamura: Why should I have to report to you! Amahisa: didn't we traded line contacts? Sawamura: Well that was because you forced me to...first and foremost, we're enemies. Amahisa: haven't you been sending some stamps/emojis once in a while? Sawamura: That's because you have been persistent!! Akiba: those two were on such good terms with each other? Haruichi: It's the first time I know about this too so... Amahisa: Todoroki, you want me to add you into the group chat as well? If it's you then it's fine. Raichi: Group...? Mishima: This guy doesn't have a phone, should I make a special case and enter in the group chat instead? Raichi (points to Amahisa): Quater final! (points to Sawamura) Semi Final! Kahahah, then Inajitsu in the Final! I want to blow them all away right now. Someone: Hey, say that after you beat us. Mishima: That's right, don't say it like we're gold for the Final. Someone: You lot are way too rowdy. Tadano: Mei-san you heard? Seidou's Ace jersey has changed ownership. Mei: Huh, to whom? Tadano: It's 2nd year, Sawamura. Mei: I see, so that guy (implying Furuya) couldn't get over his wall eh. Well, whoever the opponent is doesn't matter. We'll beat whoever stands in our way. That's all there is to it. --6th of July-- Sunday Nabe: the starting pitcher was No. 12, Ousu, a 2nd year. He's a typical righty that relies on his fastball to attack. On this day, the 3rd year Ace, Higashiyama didn't get any turn. On the lineup, their 4th batter Senda drove in 3 runs. They also piled up runs on their aggressive hit and run plays. They took down their opponent in a called game by the 7th inning, winning 11-2. I'll be going to watch their 2nd round game next week as well so I'll take another look at the data for their batters. Kataoka: I'll be counting on you to keep an eye out for the other teams as well. Nabe: understood. Miyuki: the coach that helped pushed Seidou to become an established powerhouse name, Eijirou Sasaki. He was also the mentor of our coach so it may potentially be a difficult match for him... Sawamura: the first match on 15th. The match is still quite far away. Since I want to further refine my Numbers so I can increase the amount of Numbers I can use during the Tournament as much as I can. There's a ton of things for me to do. There's no time for me to sit back and relax. Kawakami: Don't make such a scary face. We still have 1 week away from the game. If you get into that feeling early then it would tire you out. Sawamura: Scary?...ah as you said. Miyuki: Sawamura, you had a brief, quick pitching session today so you want to come into the bullpen tomorrow? Sawamura: Surely, I want to hone my Numbers after all. Miyuki: Got it. I want you to get your Numbers as close to their perfect form as possible during this Summer. Sawamura: If you please, Cap! Okumura: "perfect form" Miyuki: then Furuya, you'll be slotted for the day after tomorrow. Furuya: ...if you please. Kawakami: Miyuki, how about me? When will you be catching for me? When do you "WANT" to catch for me? Others: That's right Nori, push for it more. Miyuki is getting scared. Man, if he has had more of that assertiveness...No, it's not late yet. Miyuki: Okay, shall we go for it right now? Kawakami: Right, let's do it now! Others: Ooh, there it is!! Nori pushed through. Couple established. Mochi: hahah, what is this? Then let me stand in the batter box for ya Higasa: I'll play the umpire. Zono: Asou are you going to hit from the machine? Asou: I'll go, obviously! Zono: What's up with that? Even after I went and invited you man? Asou: the cage isn't your in your possession alright (don't need to invite me) Zono: AAAH?? Asou: don't you mess around with us. Kanemaru: for some reasons, aren't the seniors on good terms with each other as of late? Toujou: Yeah, I also noticed that. Haruichi: Miyuki and Kuramochi senpai also tag along them at school as well. They are often seen laughing a lot too. They seems to either be calm or has a liberated mindset. Sawamura: Let them play longer, extend their Summer even if it's just 1 more day. I'm the Ace of this team, I'm not going to let the Summer of my senpais end. --In the coach room-- Sasaki: Yo, Tesshin. We somehow managed to win our debut match. We're 1 more match away from booking a game against the your team. Honestly, it has for the fist time hit me how one should appreciate for being seeded. Kataoka: I'll be waiting for you in your 3rd round match, coach. Sasaki: hmm, you have gotten good with your words, you devil kid. Even if I say I did the heavy duty in Fall, it was mostly assembling the players and establishing the right environment, I've come prepared beforehand. I'll be coming for your head so better prepare yourself and wait for me. Kataoka: Yes sir, I'll be looking forward to it! Sasaki Eijirou info box: former Seidou coach, current coach of Yura General Engineering Chapter continues next week. |
GDVOct 24, 2018 6:32 AM
Oct 23, 2018 10:55 PM
#1263
GDV said: genisa246 said: manganimae said: aaaaaaahhhh i love this update! thanks a lot as always! Sanada talking about injuries is funny. Eijun's rivals talking to him that way is really heartwarming and makes me happy although raichi makes me tear up a bit. Mei's reaction is expected though i am looking forward when they fight it out. Im sure that it will be Seido vs inashiro in the finals. I wanted Miyuki to be able to say to Mei that he made the right choice wholeheartedly. Do you think Miyuki will go to pro directly? How about Mei? Guys do you think this manga will show Eijun playing college baseball or pro? Will it be like Major? Mei and miyuki have high possibility to go pro, i think. They got play to koshien and had good review from media. Tbh, i really hope TJ sensei will continue the story till koshien, not just preliminary like Act I. I dont even think this manga will continue after this summer koshien, because the mc are sawamura and miyuki. But, if the story still continue, it will be interesting to know what the next goal. And i think Major is different from DnA coz it was not focused on koshien. Considering that Sawamura and Amahisa's seiyuus also do the voice acting for Mikleo and Sorey from Tales of Zestiria, there's no surprise really that Terajima is sort of featuring their friendship/rivalry like a fan service. It's one of the more realistic interaction between the players from the schools really. They are players but they're also high school kids so they play seriously but they also want to have fun, they don't all acts emo like Furuya or Hongou so kudos for Terajima for updating his characters' interaction to be a bit more realistic as of late. His time invested in watching Koshien yearly has really helped. Now on to the players who I think or know would be playing in the pro-level: - Tetsu told Kataoka he wants to go to college so he can come back as a coach for Seidou in the future, pretty much declaring that he'll give up us professional career. Tetsu won't be playing the sport professionally; however, he is still playing competitively in the college/university scene. - Chris looks like he's in college obviously because he didn't get to play in his 3rd year Summer so no matter how good of a player he is, teams won't be able to scout him or draft him if he can't put him result or even play. Chris will be in college trying to recover his former physical abilities, have some breakout performance and gets drafted by some team down the line; hopefully 1 year late because he is just that good if he isn't injured. - Harada has been drafted by a famous team in Hokkaido. If Terajima wants to be realistic instead of creating weird names for the pro-team in-universe, that team that got Harada has to be no other than the Hokkaido Nippon Ham Fighters. A huge team in the NPB (Big league baseball in Japan) and they're pretty infamous for hogging all the highest profile players out of high school every year like Yuki Saitou, Sho Nakata, Shohei Ohtani, Kiyomiya just to name a few, and is sort of disliked like the Red Sox in the MLB. Harada is now a pro but we don't know for sure if he has been called up to the big league team yet or not or he's still in the minor (sort of like the 2nd string of high school baseball). - Mei will most likely be a 1st draft out of high school. He's been one of the best pitchers in-universe and even if Seidou beats him in Summer, his high profile wouldn't just disappear so a lot of team must be eyeing him out of high school. The only potential problem for a professional team when considering whether to draft Mei or not is his already high work load in his 2nd year as he pitched most of the games for Inajitsu without a backup pitcher or relay so the wear and tear on his arm is high and he may have risked his professional career with that (just like any high school Japan pitcher really); however, Japan is not a country that shy away from over-abusing and/or acquiring pitcher with already high work load so it shouldn't be that big of a problem for Mei. He will be available on the market 1 year before Hongou so he's basically the highest profile pitcher in the high school scene this year in-universe and he'll be 1st round pick by many teams so those teams that want him will have to enter into a random draw to get the right to draft him. Even if he expressed desire to chase after Harada, he may not get the chance to. - Mima, the highest profile player beside Mei of his year, a 5 tools player. Same drill with him, many teams will want him as a 1st draft material, they'll have to enter into a random draw to get him. - Akashii will probably be a 1st round draft for some but most likely a 2nd round draft pick for most because they'll be saving their slot for Mei and Mima. Whichever team that's smart enough to get Akashi will be getting a bargain because they'll get a great pitcher who also knows how to bat, a very rare gem. He's not as good of a pitcher as Mei but is a better batter than Mei. They can decide whether they want his pitching or his batting (mostly his batting) and develop him into a terrifying batter down the road. - Amahisa, easily a 1st round draft for a Tokyo team (aka the Giants) or smaller market teams that know him. However, he'll most likely be a 2nd round pick for most teams because they'll be going after Mei for their Ace pitcher material. Same case with Akashi, whichever team getting Amahisa will be in for a bargain because Amahisa has a very high ceiling and his arm hasn't been as highly taxed as Mei's so he'll most likely going to stay healthier down the road, granted he wants to play baseball professionally at all which I think he will. - Miyuki will be a 1st round draft pick as well considering how popular he's already is with a lot of scouts. He's a catcher who can bats like Harada so he's a rare commodity and something every team loves to have. If the team have some good pitchers especially some high profile pitchers they've acquired from high school as well and they want to complete that battery, they'll try to add Miyuki into their team. However, they'll be breaking their bank on him along with those high profile pitchers. - Hongou will definitely be a 1st round draft pick for many teams. He's the highest profile pitcher and potentially player out of high school of his year and the same deal will happen to him. Many teams will try to draft him and they'll have to enter into a random draw for that. Teams that got Mei or Mima will probably have to lay off Hongou because of their budget which will set up a nicely even professional stage where you'll have these elite pitchers competing against one another just like they did in High school. - Sawamura will be an automatic 1st round draft for a few small market teams like the Lions or the Hawk the moment he beats Mei, Inajitsu and goes to Koshien. He does it again in his 3rd year and that's a guaranteed he's a 1st round pick for at least some teams that can see his potential. Most big, heavy spending teams like the Fighters, the Giants and the Tigers will be going after Hongou and Furuya as the "higher ceiling flame throwers that meets their taste" but the smaller, smarter teams will love to bank on Sawamura. Especially, if he gets to pair up with Chris on the professional stage, good luck stopping them because you'll need it. I'll also love to see Chris have some inputs and requests to his team to get Sawamura as well and Terajima committing on reuniting this epic battery between them for the Professional Act of DNA. - Furuya, 2nd round draft pick for most but 1st round draft pick for teams like the Giants or the Tigers. The story would be different if Furuya was still the Ace of Seidou but with him falling to No. 11 and if Sawamura continues to be the Ace by his 3rd year, some teams may start writing him off as an expensive investment with mixed potential; thus, dropping him to 2nd round pick; but they'll still watch out to get him nevertheless. Teams that fail to get Hongou will most likely turn to him immediately as their back up pitcher draft. A few teams may be bold enough to try to sneak him in as their their 1st round draft while expecting others to compete for Hongou; however, he'll be expensive regardless due to how much hype he has. There are so much potential for Terajima to go with the Professinoal stage of DNA so personally I sure hope that he'll conitnue writing it. Feature Sawamrua's story in the NPB, then moving to the MLB like Major and becoming a Hall of Famer down the line. thank you so much for this comprehensive list! how about raichi? also the kominatos? kuramochi? i really want continuation of this manga to pro! mostly because i need more of chris x sawamura |
Oct 23, 2018 11:07 PM
#1264
GDV said: Chapter 143: Greetings OP note: even after the opening ceremony, the excitement within the Jingu Stadium still doesn't drop. Mochi (about Shunshin): his Japanese is superb Zono: he couldn't even be on the bench? What a waste... Miyuki: I paired up with up for just 1 inning during the Tokyo Senbatsu matches, he possesses great techniques unlike the run off the mill lot and is a guy who you can trust to have your back with, I'm proud to be able to play along with him. note: the old rivals of the same generation have a face to face encounter. Raichi: Kahaha! Mishima: Fuhahah! (obnoxious laughs, seriously) Raichi: Number 1. Sawamura is No. 1? You got more amazing? Kahahah I'm looking forward to it! Sanada (to Furuya): Is wasn't because of an injury or anything was it? Furuya shook his head Sanada: ...I see, then we can face off to our hearts' content. Amahisa: Oi, sawamura~~!! Ain't you wearing No. 1!! Why didn't you let me know!! Sawamura: Why should I have to report to you! Amahisa: didn't we traded line contacts? Sawamura: Well that was because you forced me to...first and foremost, we're enemies. Amahisa: haven't you been sending some stamps/emojis once in a while? Sawamura: That's because you have been persistent!! Akiba: those two were on such good terms with each other? Haruichi: It's the first time I know about this too so... Amahisa: Todoroki, you want me to add you into the group chat as well? If it's you then it's fine. Raichi: Group...? Mishima: This guy doesn't have a phone, should I make a special case and enter in the group chat instead? Raichi (points to Amahisa): Quater final! (points to Sawamura) Semi Final! Kahahah, then Inajitsu in the Final! I want to blow them all away right now. Someone: Hey, say that after you beat us. Mishima: That's right, don't say it like we're gold for the Final. Someone: You lot are way too rowdy. Tadano: Mei-san you heard? Seidou's Ace number has changed ownership. Mei: Huh, to whom? Tadano: It's 2nd year, Sawamura. Mei: I see, so that guy (implying Furuya) couldn't get over his wall eh. Well, whoever the opponent is doesn't matter. We'll beat whoever stands in our way. That's all there is to it. --6th of July-- Sunday Nabe: the starting pitcher was No. 12, Ousu, a 2nd year. He's a typical righty that relies on his fastball to attack. On this day, the 3rd year Ace, Higashiyama didn't get any turn. On the lineup, their 4th batter Senda drove in 3 runs. They also piled up runs on their aggressive hit and run plays. They took down their opponent in a called game by the 7th inning, winning 11-2. I'll be going to watch their 2nd round game next week as well so I'll take another look at the data for their batters. Kataoka: I'll be counting on you to keep an eye out for the other teams as well. Nabe: understood. Miyuki: the coach that helped pushed Seidou to become an established powerhouse name, Eijirou Sasaki. He was also the mentor of our coach so it may potentially be a difficult match for him... Sawamura: the first match on 15th. The match is still quite far away. Since I want to further refine my Numbers so I can increase the amount of Numbers I can use during the Tournament as much as I can. There's a ton of things for me to do. There's no time for me to sit back and relax. Kawakami: Don't make such a scary face. We still have 1 week away from the game. If you get into that feeling early then it would tire you out. Sawamura: Scary?...ah as you said. Miyuki: Sawamura, you had a brief, quick pitching session today so you want to come into the bullpen tomorrow? Sawamura: Surely, I want to hone my Numbers after all. Miyuki: Got it. I want you to get as close to their perfect form as possible during this Summer. Sawamura: If you please, Cap! Okumura: "perfect form" Miyuki: then Furuya, you'll be slotted for the day after tomorrow. Furuya: ...if you please. Kawakami: Miyuki, how about me? When will you be catching for me? When do you "WANT" to catch for me? Others: That's right Nori, push for it more. Miyuki is getting scared. Man, if he has had more of that assertiveness...No, it's not late yet. Miyuki: Okay, shall we go for it right now? Kawakami: Right, let's do it now! Others: Ooh, there it is!! Nori pushed through. Couple established. Mochi: hahah, what is this? Then let me stand in the batter box for ya Higasa: I'll play the umpire. Zono: Asou are you going to hit from the machine? Asou: I'll go, obviously! Zono: What's up with that? Even after I went and invited you man? Asou: the cage isn't your in your possession alright (don't need to invite me) Zono: AAAH?? Asou: don't you mess around with us. Kanemaru: for some reason, aren't the seniors on good terms with each other as of late? Toujou: Yeah, I also noticed that. Haruichi: Miyuki and Kuramochi senpai also tag along them at school as well. They are often seen laughing a lot too. They seems to either be calm or has a liberated mindset. Sawamura: Let them play longer, extend their Summer even if it's just 1 more day. I'm the Ace of this team, I'm not going to let the Summer of my senpais end. --In the coach room-- Sasaki: Yo, Tesshin. We somehow managed to win our debut match. We're 1 more match away from booking a game against the your team. Honestly, it has for the fist time hit me how one should appreciate for being seeded. Kataoka: I'll be waiting for you in your 3rd round match, coach. Sasaki: hmm, you have gotten good with your words, you devil kid. Even if I say I did the heavy duty in Fall, it was mostly assembling the players and establishing the right environment, I've come prepared beforehand. I'll be coming for your head so better prepare yourself and wait for me. Kataoka: Yes sir, I'll be looking forward to it! Sasaki Eijirou info box: former Seidou coach, current coach of Yura General Engineering Chapter continues next week. thanks for the spoilers as usual! i like how terajima showed nori here and the rest of 3rd years. as you have said previously, they were highschools! they should act as their age and not emotionally stunted emos most of the time. |
Oct 24, 2018 12:36 AM
#1265
manganimae said: thank you so much for this comprehensive list! how about raichi? also the kominatos? kuramochi? i really want continuation of this manga to pro! mostly because i need more of chris x sawamura - Raichi unfortunately I don't think will be drafted straight out of high school. Most of the players drafted from high school are either top class pitchers or players with great defesnive ability which you can teach them how to bat. It's not often that teams want to draft a player just because of his batting and Raichi right now is that kind of player. He has great physical abilities, good arms, good swing, scary as a batter and fast feet. However, his biggest shortcoming is defense. His catching at 3rd base are mostly either flukes or very close plays because his throws are erractic. He also tend to make mistakes here and there and makes Raizou nervous because he's not consistent enough yet. 3rd base position is one of the harder position to play and like what Raichi is showing, he isn't a good 3rd base player frankly. There may be some teams that would be willing to look further than that and invest in his batting down the line and make him an outfielder but from what he's shown so far as a complete package, he's a 3rd draft at best. If he wants to be drafted higher than that, he has to go to Koshien or consistently make appearance in the Major Tourneys like the Meiji Jingu, Senbatsu, Koshien (which is difficult considering Yakushi is in the same block as Seidou, Inajitsu and Ichidaisan and Yakushi themselves lack talents). Or he needs to hit over 100 HR in his high school career to prove that he's a batter worth getting like Kiyomiya. I'm not saying he won't be a great player in the pro-stage but from the point of view of pro-teams, he may not look all that attractive right now. - Ryou had no chance to go pro out of high school, his best chance is to go to college and hopefully gets drafted later because he didn't make Koshien, his batting isn't all that great despite being able to grind out at bats BUT if he can't hit in clutch moment it's meaningless which was what he did in his 3rd year. His defense is good but again without showing that kind of play in Koshien, it's difficult for teams to notice him. - Haruichi however is a first draft material. His batting is great, he bats way better than Ryou or most in Seidou, he drives in at least 1 run or 2/game. His defense is good, his game sense on the field is great and he's essentially playing with a handicap (the wooden bat instead of metal bat in high school which is more difficult). He makes the Koshien this Summer and continues to pile on clutch hits for Seidou in Koshien, he's almost a guaranteed 1st draft pick or at least 2nd draft pick for most teams. - The likes of Kanemaru, Zono, Asou are good players that likely won't stand out enough from the rest of their teammates to make them a draft pick out of high school and may have to go to college. Toujou however, may be a 2nd draft pick for smarter teams because he's a guy that can do everything. He bats, he pitches, he runs, he defense, he's almost a 4 tools player like Haruichi since both lacks power batting but he can definitely improve his power in his 3rd year and once he does, watch out because despite living under the shadow of Sawamura, Furuya and Haruichi, Toujou is arguably the 4th best player of his generation in Seidou and probably one of the best of his generation in-universe as well. - Sanada and Mukai are similar in that they're good pitchers but they're not as good as the rest in the same age group. Sanada is just unfortunately part of a school that can't go far in Summer like Raichi due to the lack of talents and these 2 just can't carry their team all the time. He may miss out on the draft because he won't get to Koshien this Summer and who knows if he has intention to continue playing or not. Mukai on the other hand is overrated and he's too over his head. His control is great but ain't as good as Shunshin, his velocity is average, not as good as Mei or Sanada. Amahisa and in terms of breaking pitch, pretty much all elite pitchers have better breaking pitches than he does (not mention the fact that they tend to more pitches than he does as well) not mentioning Sawamura. He's a 2 pitches pitcher that lives on command of his fastball and simply 1 more breaking pitch that is the Screwball which he can't use as effectively against a lefty batter and not even an off-speed pitch. Sawamura may very well reach higher velocity than him in Summer. He's the kind of pitcher that seems good on the high school scene but once he gets to the pro-stage, he may not do well enough to compete there because as a finesse pitcher like himself, Shunshin and Sawamura, he needs great breaking pitches or off-pace stuffs and he just doesn't have that at the moment which is strange because a high school pitcher in Japan usually would want to add as much breaking pitches into their arsenal as they can, understanding that they generally lacks the velocity that the Westerners have but Mukai only has 2 pitches and 1 is his 4-seam fastball so this tells me he may not be that gifted with his fingers or he would have already learned more pitches or he's just that cocky he may not need more pitches. Either way, it's a telling sign he's not ready for the professional stage. |
GDVOct 24, 2018 1:44 AM
Oct 24, 2018 1:35 AM
#1266
| @GDV As always, thank you very much for the translation and for taking the time to write your predictions, you have no idea how much I enjoy reading them. Also, having seen the raws, that scene where Furuya notices Sawamura tensing up is quite poignant, as usual he doesn't say anything so Terajima leaves it all to our interpretation, but I want to read the look Furuya gives Sawamura as him being worried about whether Eijun will fall into the same trap he did the previous year, which cost him the ace number. To be honest, if there's one thing I'm curious about is how the dynamics between these two will change. After all, now Sawamura is the ace, Furuya will need to be the one supporting him through whichever crisis they face. I know he's kind of done that in the past, in his own quiet way, but this time this support will have to be a lot more tangible, if you guys know what I mean. Either way, I'm happy that we've got Miyuki finally placing Sawamura first, being the one to suggest the training session to him and then scheduling Furuya for the day after. It's these sort of perks I want to see Eijun enjoying from now on. |
Oct 24, 2018 5:09 AM
#1267
| @sanaeozora I like that Furuya is being perceptive. He's been tunnel vision, too stuck up in his goal that he stopped socializing with people for a while and that brought about his toxic mentality that made things spiraled of control for him. Now before people start to say Furuya may act condescending when he tries to give Sawamura advices on how to handle pressure, I will say that it would be the kind of interaction that I would enjoy and won't be too off-putting by it if Terajima handles it nicely. Sawamura has been hurt by Furuya's words before (the Yakushi match) and even Furuya has kept piling on being rude to Sawamura a few times without an apology, I'd take Furuya giving Sawamura, that would be a nice change. I also expect Sawamura to act as the Ace of the team after a few matches as he gain confidence in this new responsibility and start giving out advices to not only the rookies, like he did to Okumura, but also to the 2nd year as well like giving Furuya tips on how to stay calm during a pinch, if anything it should be Sawamura who should be giving Furuya tips on how to handle pressure and not the other way around. |
Oct 24, 2018 5:25 AM
#1268
| I think that Furuya's gone past the, allow me the term, jerk phase now. If anything, losing the ace number has probably given him a much needed reality check and like I said before, it's probably the best thing that could happen to him. Now he is free from the at least partially self imposed pressure, like you said, his perspective has broadened and he's now able to see a lot of stuff, and probably I'd go as far as to say that he might be the one who will spot any signs of pressure-induced strain in Sawamura. Again, if Terajima sticks to his character development, we shouldn't really see Eijun crumbling under that pressure, and indeed in the first matches, at the very least against Yura, he'll probably be still trying to wrap his head around the fact that he is the ace (we've seen a glimpse in the latest chapter that it's now dawning on him that he IS the ace), so if there's any mishaps in his performance, I fully expect them to happen while he's still adjusting to the role. Once this happens, and knowing what a tough cookie he is, I'm pretty sure that mentally speaking, he'll be as close as unbreakable as it is humanly possible. I daresay he'll even surpass Umemiya and Wakabayashi, in terms of how mentally strong he will be. But in the meantime, what I would like Furuya to do, rather than giving advice on how to handle pressure (since to be honest it would sound weird coming from him) is for Furuya to perfrom admirably, thus lessening the load on Eijun's work. If Furuya is starting, by providing a solid enough pitching so Eijun can take the mound in a controlled situation, and if Furuya takes the relief, so that he does it as flawlessly as possible so Eijun can take it easy and rest properly. Basically, doing what so far it's been Eijun's job. That is the sort of support I would like Furuya to provide because, no matter how good Eijun is (and will probably get better from now on), in Eijun's own words, baseball is not a sport that you play by yourself, so Sawamura can only carry the team so far, the rest is up to his team-mates, like Furuya himself. And speaking of Okumura, I would really like to see Miyuki actually following his example and consulting his pitchers a lot more, especially Sawamura who has proven time and again that his pitcher's instincts do serve him well. |
sanaeozoraOct 24, 2018 5:29 AM
Oct 25, 2018 4:24 PM
#1269
| Hey guys its been sometime since i posted on here, but i saw the question about the draft from some time back. Since the NPB draft was today, here is what I would see the draft board looking like for this year (miyuki's graduation year in DnA-verse) and next year (Sawamura graduation year in DnA-verse). Miyuki's year: 1. Narumiya Mei, Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters 2. Chris Takigawa, 3. Mima Souichiro, Either the Orix or Carp 4. Miyuki Kazuya, Yamamori Tokyo Giants 5. Akashi Seiya, Hanshin Osaka Tigers 6. Amahisa Kousei, 7. Inui Kengo, Orix or Dragons 8. Komadai's Captain, Fighters (probably second round) or Swallows 9. Shirasu, Orix 10. Asou, 11. Noriuchi Kawakami, Mochi, Sanada, Zono, and the Rest go to college to play they are a few years away. Shunshin could join the CPBL (it'll let him avoid having to do anything extra) also note that everyone after 5 probably gets drafted in the second round since teams also like taking more college players in the first round. Sawamura's Year: 1. Hongou Masamune, Fighters 2. Furuya Satoru, Tokyo Giants 3. Haruichi Kominato, Yakult Swallows 4. Todoroki Raichi, Hanshin Tigers 5. Enjo Renji, Hiroshima Carp 6. Sawamura Eijun, 7. Toujou Hideaki, 8. Kanemaru shinji, Giants 9. Tadano Itsuki, Golden Eagles 10. Sanada Shunpei, Everyone after number 6 goes in the later rounds. The guys whom were left blank I honestly don't know where they'll go, or I have a few ideas. I think that Chris/Amahisa/Sawamura will most likely end up on the same team if they go pro. (side note: that rotation would be dirty and likely the most broken one ever if not for Mei and Hongou being atop the Fighters rotation) I'd like Toujou, Asou, Nori and Sanada to join them (thats two thirds of an outfield and a good bullpen arm which is where I think Sanada will end up, he's clearly not made for starting games with his injury record). Personally that lucky team will most likely be a smaller market team, so that eliminates a lot of big name teams. For me it'd be one of the Hawks, Lions, Golden Eagles and Carp (maybe the Dragons, but i'm not too sure about their track record with pitcher development) As for the others, its a bit of a crapshoot. I think Mishima gets in, probably Akiba, but guys like Takatsu? or Zono? those guys may end up ending their careers in college, because unless they turn out to be some sort of monster hitter who never strike out and hit for power they aren't gonna be going far into the show. |
Oct 28, 2018 11:09 PM
#1270
leongsh said: Nice write-up on the pro prospects, GDV. A probable Hanshin Tigers fan has made dibs on Sawamura and Miyuki Sawamura: https://www.facebook.com/960353737379306/posts/1891255614289109/ Miyuki: https://www.facebook.com/960353737379306/posts/1893069954107675/ Na_na-roku, the artist, makes a lot of art on DnA characters in pro uniforms whenever there is a collaboration from a baseball team and DnA. They also made some from Eagles and others. :) |
Oct 28, 2018 11:19 PM
#1271
| Chapter 144: Super Sonic Jet Boy Seeing Sawamura sleep while still wearing his uniform, Mochi gets the magic marker brought to him by Asada and draws the No. 1 on Sawamura's back as a prank. In class, the girls tell Sawamura that Nishino decided to become a cheerleader so she can cheer for Sawamura on the stands as they worry about the heat the cheerleaders will have to endure while they're cheering on the stands, Sawamura says that he will try his best to give them performances fitting of their cheering. Kanemaru himself also got a starting jersey and was expecting to receive some vocal support as well but he got nothing. --Fielding practice-- looking at Furuya who seems to be fine despite losing the Ace number, Sawamura started to let lose his usual loud voice during practice. Looking at Kanemaru who's putting his spirit into practice and pulling off some good defensive play, Takatsu assesses his experience of making errors that it won't be a fluke unless you are able to pull off the play one after another. --bullpen-- Sawamura after pitching 120 pitches still doesn't seem to satisfied but Miyuki tells Sawamura to wrap it up and remind him that he will have a no pitching day on the following day. Sawamura tried to ask Okumura to continue to catch for him but Okumura also share similar intention with Miyuki so Sawamura had to wrap up his bullpen session albeit reluctantly. However, he went on to do 10 laps of tire pulling regardless. Miyuki says that it's good for Sawamura to be fired up but as he's looking tense at the moment, he's a bit anxious about how this may affect Sawamura's performance in the upcoming game. Nabe comes to scout for more information on Yura from the 2nd round match 4th batter Senda also drove in a runs for Yura. Nabe says although it seems like Senda may be a batter that's very good when a pitcher challenges him but he emphasize that what's more significant is how Sasaki coach is able to predict what the pitcher will throw or what tactic the opponents may try to pull. It seems that Sasaki was called by those that have way too much respect to the point of fearing him as the "youkai of inner thoughts baseball geezer" (what a mouthful) Sasaki then makes a prediction that Yura will be able to score 2 more runs Ed Note: the savvy insight of veteran Sasaki Eijirou leads his team baseball to new heights. |
Oct 29, 2018 1:38 AM
#1272
| Tnx for the spoiler |
Oct 29, 2018 2:37 AM
#1273
RoKrish said: Hey guys its been sometime since i posted on here, but i saw the question about the draft from some time back. Since the NPB draft was today, here is what I would see the draft board looking like for this year (miyuki's graduation year in DnA-verse) and next year (Sawamura graduation year in DnA-verse). Miyuki's year: 1. Narumiya Mei, Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters 2. Chris Takigawa, 3. Mima Souichiro, Either the Orix or Carp 4. Miyuki Kazuya, Yamamori Tokyo Giants 5. Akashi Seiya, Hanshin Osaka Tigers 6. Amahisa Kousei, 7. Inui Kengo, Orix or Dragons 8. Komadai's Captain, Fighters (probably second round) or Swallows 9. Shirasu, Orix 10. Asou, 11. Noriuchi Kawakami, Mochi, Sanada, Zono, and the Rest go to college to play they are a few years away. Shunshin could join the CPBL (it'll let him avoid having to do anything extra) also note that everyone after 5 probably gets drafted in the second round since teams also like taking more college players in the first round. Sawamura's Year: 1. Hongou Masamune, Fighters 2. Furuya Satoru, Tokyo Giants 3. Haruichi Kominato, Yakult Swallows 4. Todoroki Raichi, Hanshin Tigers 5. Enjo Renji, Hiroshima Carp 6. Sawamura Eijun, 7. Toujou Hideaki, 8. Kanemaru shinji, Giants 9. Tadano Itsuki, Golden Eagles 10. Sanada Shunpei, Everyone after number 6 goes in the later rounds. The guys whom were left blank I honestly don't know where they'll go, or I have a few ideas. I think that Chris/Amahisa/Sawamura will most likely end up on the same team if they go pro. (side note: that rotation would be dirty and likely the most broken one ever if not for Mei and Hongou being atop the Fighters rotation) I'd like Toujou, Asou, Nori and Sanada to join them (thats two thirds of an outfield and a good bullpen arm which is where I think Sanada will end up, he's clearly not made for starting games with his injury record). Personally that lucky team will most likely be a smaller market team, so that eliminates a lot of big name teams. For me it'd be one of the Hawks, Lions, Golden Eagles and Carp (maybe the Dragons, but i'm not too sure about their track record with pitcher development) As for the others, its a bit of a crapshoot. I think Mishima gets in, probably Akiba, but guys like Takatsu? or Zono? those guys may end up ending their careers in college, because unless they turn out to be some sort of monster hitter who never strike out and hit for power they aren't gonna be going far into the show. Since Chris-senpai is in a college team, what are the chances Eijun might join him there instead? The issue with that though is that by the time Eijun graduates, Chris-senpai will already be in his third year and Eijun might not make it to the first string in his first year so they would probably be limited to playing only 1 year together, during Chris-senpai's last year of university. Unless, Eijun joins one of the pro-league teams and waits for Chris-senpai to join him there after college. That said, I'm glad that both you and GDV have predicted they might get to be a battery once again because, as much as I like Miyuki and/or Okumura, I think Chris is ultimately Eijun's best match when it comes to being a battery. I don't really know how to express this in appropriate baseball terms, but Miyuki is sometimes too aggressive and most of the biggest mistakes Eijun's made as a pitcher were at least partially Miyuki's own fault. With Chris, Eijun would probably be more at ease and, now you mention it, Chris would probably be able to keep Amahisa in check. If Chris-senpai had both Eijun and Amahisa, they would really be a sight to behold! @GDV: as usual, thanks for the spoilers! Am I the only one who's getting really bad vibes from the way Sawamura is behaving? Not to mentio the whole Sasaki being able to predict strategies and pitching sequences....this game against Yura is looking scarier by the minute. |
Oct 29, 2018 5:31 AM
#1274
| @GDV Thanks for the spoiler :) If sawamura is too tense and screw up his pitching, it will be bad for his debut as ace. I hope this is just a drama like ace decision before. More spoiler guys https://dotup.org/uploda/dotup.org1679137.jpg https://dotup.org/uploda/dotup.org1679138.jpg |
Oct 29, 2018 5:37 AM
#1275
| Sawamura should be mature enough to bear the weight of the ace number |
Oct 29, 2018 4:39 PM
#1276
| Not too worried about Sawamura. That said, he needs to get used to this pressure. He has carried the burden before - that prefectural final against Inashiro in the previous year. The personal stakes are higher now for him as he has latched on to being responsible in not shortening the summer of the 3rd years who he has greater affinity to compared to the previous year's 3rd years. Against Yura, Sawamura has the skillset to get through. Sasaki's reputation may precede him and have people overthinking and overcompensatimg. Sawamura needs to get to the mindset level of Mei who has the skill and attitude of "So what if you know what I am pitching, you still can't hit it". Then, it would come down to petty tricks. Sasaki may have pride in not needing to have go down to that level. That said, we cannot discount it. |
Oct 29, 2018 7:37 PM
#1277
leongsh said: Not too worried about Sawamura. That said, he needs to get used to this pressure. He has carried the burden before - that prefectural final against Inashiro in the previous year. The personal stakes are higher now for him as he has latched on to being responsible in not shortening the summer of the 3rd years who he has greater affinity to compared to the previous year's 3rd years. Against Yura, Sawamura has the skillset to get through. Sasaki's reputation may precede him and have people overthinking and overcompensatimg. Sawamura needs to get to the mindset level of Mei who has the skill and attitude of "So what if you know what I am pitching, you still can't hit it". Then, it would come down to petty tricks. Sasaki may have pride in not needing to have go down to that level. That said, we cannot discount it. I agree with that. A lot of times especially in the MLB, you know what pitches the pitcher has, what he tend to throw in certain situation because there are so much scouting going on in the big league but even then batter's batting average is still 0.2-0.25 anyway. Even if you know a pitch is coming, getting to the pitch and actually puts it into play isn't as easy as it sounds especially if the pitch isn't a fastball down the middle, with breaks and movements, the batter can still whiplash over the pitch even if he guess the pitch right and time it right. As for Sawamura, he may experience pressure, it's his debut match as the Ace, it's the position he's been wanting for 1 year, he's starting to feel the responsibility of having to carry the dream and expectation of his seniors. It may hinders his pitching in the opening stage of the game. That's all within reasonable expectation. However, past the first inning and Sawamura is able to settle in, he will start to roll and it's for Seidou's benefits that they use Sawamura as the starter for their first round match so if he were to face any pressure issue, he would have time to get that out of the way quickly in his first match and then gather the momentum and ease his way into rolling through the rest of the Tournament. |
Oct 29, 2018 7:44 PM
#1278
sanaeozora said: Since Chris-senpai is in a college team, what are the chances Eijun might join him there instead? The issue with that though is that by the time Eijun graduates, Chris-senpai will already be in his third year and Eijun might not make it to the first string in his first year so they would probably be limited to playing only 1 year together, during Chris-senpai's last year of university. Unless, Eijun joins one of the pro-league teams and waits for Chris-senpai to join him there after college. That said, I'm glad that both you and GDV have predicted they might get to be a battery once again because, as much as I like Miyuki and/or Okumura, I think Chris is ultimately Eijun's best match when it comes to being a battery. I don't really know how to express this in appropriate baseball terms, but Miyuki is sometimes too aggressive and most of the biggest mistakes Eijun's made as a pitcher were at least partially Miyuki's own fault. With Chris, Eijun would probably be more at ease and, now you mention it, Chris would probably be able to keep Amahisa in check. If Chris-senpai had both Eijun and Amahisa, they would really be a sight to behold! Well Sawamura should absolutely not go to college in Japan if he wants to have a career in Baseball as a Player. He's too talented to waste his time there (although for most people go to college) and could very well make it to the majors with his "stuff". Plus a player can declare for the Amateur draft whenever they would like. So Chris and Sawamura could both be drafted in the same year. Its not like they have to go for 4 full years, they can leave if they get drafted when they would like. Chris is apparently tearing it up in College, so its quite likely that teams are taking a look at him in the NPB. If they feel that after next year they can go after him in the draft, they will. Its more than possible that they end up on the same team. Regarding this weeks spoiler: I think that Yura's coach may be a specialist in identifying when a pitcher is tipping his pitches, which may pose a problem for sawamura who may be vulnerable to this since he doesn't grip the ball into his glove properly to hide his true pitch selection. |
Oct 30, 2018 3:25 AM
#1279
RoKrish said: sanaeozora said: Since Chris-senpai is in a college team, what are the chances Eijun might join him there instead? The issue with that though is that by the time Eijun graduates, Chris-senpai will already be in his third year and Eijun might not make it to the first string in his first year so they would probably be limited to playing only 1 year together, during Chris-senpai's last year of university. Unless, Eijun joins one of the pro-league teams and waits for Chris-senpai to join him there after college. That said, I'm glad that both you and GDV have predicted they might get to be a battery once again because, as much as I like Miyuki and/or Okumura, I think Chris is ultimately Eijun's best match when it comes to being a battery. I don't really know how to express this in appropriate baseball terms, but Miyuki is sometimes too aggressive and most of the biggest mistakes Eijun's made as a pitcher were at least partially Miyuki's own fault. With Chris, Eijun would probably be more at ease and, now you mention it, Chris would probably be able to keep Amahisa in check. If Chris-senpai had both Eijun and Amahisa, they would really be a sight to behold! Well Sawamura should absolutely not go to college in Japan if he wants to have a career in Baseball as a Player. He's too talented to waste his time there (although for most people go to college) and could very well make it to the majors with his "stuff". Plus a player can declare for the Amateur draft whenever they would like. So Chris and Sawamura could both be drafted in the same year. Its not like they have to go for 4 full years, they can leave if they get drafted when they would like. Chris is apparently tearing it up in College, so its quite likely that teams are taking a look at him in the NPB. If they feel that after next year they can go after him in the draft, they will. Its more than possible that they end up on the same team. Regarding this weeks spoiler: I think that Yura's coach may be a specialist in identifying when a pitcher is tipping his pitches, which may pose a problem for sawamura who may be vulnerable to this since he doesn't grip the ball into his glove properly to hide his true pitch selection. I see, I was operating under the assumption that once in college, Chris-senpai would need to finish whatever degree he's chosen, which would take four years. But if he can indeed be drafted anytime, he and Sawamura could indeed end up in the same time at around the same time. Just a question: I think @GDV or someone else here mentioned the possibility of Chris-senpai being able to give his input in favour of Sawamura. If this is possible, then it could happen that Chris gets drafted in his second year (which would be Sawamura's final year of high school) together with Amahisa, who would have graduated by then. They could play together and then a year later Eijun could join the team as a high school graduate. I think that any team which would have Amahisa and Eijun pairing up with Chris would be a nightmare to deal with. The only worry is that with Amahisa, Eijun would once again be placed in the chasing position, again that might not be that much of a problem in a professional team as rather than the ace, the pitching staff is more based on which role they play, am I right? And regarding the spoilers, I really hope that you guys are right and that after a slightly less than stellar start, Eijun indeed gets his groove and starts pitching like a boss, sending all of Sasaki's predictions out of the window. After all, even if they have done a tonne of scouting, if Eijun perfects and even polishes new numbers, he'll be able to surprise them (and us) beyond their expectations. |
Oct 30, 2018 4:19 AM
#1280
| I also think Sawamura should do well in the upcoming match, though he might struggle at the start. all he needs to do is return his thinking to shutting down the batter in front of him. it would also be a good way to "surprise" the crowd and shut up any naysayers left. Seidou should be established to the public that they haven't gotten weak and Furuya did not lose his spot simply due to an injury and that they are still a force to be reckoned with. man, I thought I lost my password here. anyway, thanks for the spoilers! |
Oct 30, 2018 5:29 AM
#1281
sanaeozora said: I see, I was operating under the assumption that once in college, Chris-senpai would need to finish whatever degree he's chosen, which would take four years. But if he can indeed be drafted anytime, he and Sawamura could indeed end up in the same time at around the same time. Just a question: I think @GDV or someone else here mentioned the possibility of Chris-senpai being able to give his input in favour of Sawamura. If this is possible, then it could happen that Chris gets drafted in his second year (which would be Sawamura's final year of high school) together with Amahisa, who would have graduated by then. They could play together and then a year later Eijun could join the team as a high school graduate. I think that any team which would have Amahisa and Eijun pairing up with Chris would be a nightmare to deal with. The only worry is that with Amahisa, Eijun would once again be placed in the chasing position, again that might not be that much of a problem in a professional team as rather than the ace, the pitching staff is more based on which role they play, am I right? And regarding the spoilers, I really hope that you guys are right and that after a slightly less than stellar start, Eijun indeed gets his groove and starts pitching like a boss, sending all of Sasaki's predictions out of the window. After all, even if they have done a tonne of scouting, if Eijun perfects and even polishes new numbers, he'll be able to surprise them (and us) beyond their expectations. Yeah, for an athlete who's looking to make their living by playing the sport, they don't need a degree to do so unless they have other plans like Tetsu, or undecided. If Chris is healthy and gets back to what he was capable of, he may very well on his way to a quick draft in his 2nd year and yes, if he's on a team on his 2nd year, he would be entering the farm system at the same time as Amahisa and then they will be able to play with Sawamura's generation of player 1 year later if these players get drafted out of high school that is. You know what kind of team would be pretty unbeatable? Sawamura, Chris, Amahisa and Mima on one team. It's just unfair how broken this team seems on paper but who knows if there are still even better players on the pro-stage Terajima can introduce later down the line. Again, as I said, people are freaking out too much about Sawamura getting tense. This is all natural, it's a new start for him with new kind of responsibility. Once he figure it out that he just need to focus on making one pitch after another instead of all those responsibilties of carrying whoever dream and whatever, he'll be able to pull off his usual ptiching because as long as he does well like always, he's fulfilling that responsibility. Hence, what's most important is to keep the head in the game, in the moment, not thinking way ahead like Furuya did. As for Yura, different from RoKrish's hunch, I expect Sasaski's ability to predict a play or a pitch is more on his experience of being a veteran coach and not him knowing if a pitcher may be tipping his pitch. A coach can make pretty accurate prediction on how a p;lay may go even he has enough experienece like Keisuke in One Outs and Sasaki profile definitely suggests he has enough experience to do so. I don't expect Sasaki to be able to accurately predict Sawamura's pitch but more on how he may read Kataoka's style of play like direction for fielders' shifts and how they may approach their at bats against Yura's pitchers obviously because he was Kataoka's mentor. It'll be a tough debut match for Sawamura but it may just be even tougher for Kataoka. The players of Seidou will pull them through this match but I expect Kataoka to play right into Sasaki's hands most of the time especially on Seidou's offense opportunities. |
Oct 30, 2018 5:55 PM
#1282
| Chapter 144: Super Jet Boy OP note: their opening match will be on next week, the Blue Spirit Dorm is welcoming a new morning like always. Asada: Good morning Mochi: Yo. Hey, Asada, take a look at this idiot. He slept with his uniform still on. Asada, bring me a magic marker. Asada: EH, what? Mochi: don't worry about it. Side note: His weapons are the excellent pitch command and grit on the mound, 2nd year Ace of Seidou, Sawamura Eijun. Narrative: is this is the baptism dorm residents of room 502 gave to their Ace? --In class-- Sawamura: eh, cheering? Nishino: That's right, cheerleader. This year, I'll be showing my support to you through cheering on the stands. Sawamura: seriously? Will you be alright? You'll be conitnuously exposed to harsh sunlight on the stand you know. Since there won't be a roof like in the dugout, it will be scorching hot. Don't underestimate the stand. Nishino: Eh, is that so? But..but I have gotten advices from about that and I have prepared some sunburn countermeasures. Sawamura: don't be knock out cold alright Nishino: eeh?! blondie: well that's impossible for me although she did invite me to join. Sawamura: regardless, I appreciate it Nishino. I'll try our best to answer you guys support. Nishino: yeah, better go to Koshien alright! Blondie: say, has Sawamura somehow changed again? Something happened in the club? Haruno: um...no....yeah...well something did happen Kane: I'm also a single digit (starting member) single digit man! I want to tell someone, I want people to ask me something! --In the senior class-- Mochi: that bastard slept while still wearing his jersey. Can't wait until bath time. Miyuki: Hahahah, make him stop that. Zono: what is this, this is great Asou: as I told ya --Fielding practice-- Kataoka: pitcher, throw to 3rd Sawamura: yes sir. Let's go now! Oota: everyone is moving really well. We were worried about Furuya since he may be feeling down but on the contrary isn't he starting to recover well. Sawamrua: alright, let's finish it Kane-yan! Oota: Sawamura is still loud as always. Haruichi: You-san (back toss the ball to Mochi) Seto: incredible, his back toss is fast. The one throwing and the one catching the toss must have a lot of trust otherwise they wouldn't be able to pull off that kind of play. Haruichi: was it high? Mochi: about that height was fine. Takatsu commenting on Kanemaru's play: Okay, nice, 3rd base. However, if that was a fluke then it won't be any good. Unless you can pull it off every time then it won't be the real deal. Kane: Well duh! Outfield Asou: Back off back off. chase after the ball until it falls. If your first step is quick then you would be able to get to the ball easier. Watch me Yuuki.This is my first step. (Masashi wasn't looking) --Biullpen-- Miyuki: Ok. No. 2 looks especially good today. Not just against a righty but if you can burry it down at the feet of a lefty then they won't be able to get to it. Sawamura: Then next up is NO. 11, I'll pitch 10 of these. Miyuki: nope...you also pitched yesterday so just wrap it up for today. Sawamura: Eh? but I'm not at all... Miyuki: 120 pitches...that's plenty enough. Cool down and tomorrow you'll have a no-throw day. Sawamura: no throw?! Then, let's do more for today, Cap...Okumura!!! Okumura: I kindly decline. I also think that you've pitched plenty. Sawamura: you insensitive!! Ugh~~!!!!!!!! Ochiai: don't bend your body like that. Sawamura: Okay I got it, I'll wrap it up!! But as it is I'm not gonna calm down like this so I'ma do 10 laps with the tire alright?!!! Miyuki: why are you snapped. Sawamura: Then I'll take my leave!! Miyuki: Good grief. I understand that because he's a guy with a strong sense of responsibility so he's fired up when he got the Ace number regardless, he's putting way too much tension on the shoulders. I can't quite predict how he'll come out to the match like this. --Sunday, Yurako match--Hachi Ouji Public Stadium 4th batter Senda hits a RBI single. Yura dugout: nice hit Sen-san. Such toughness Nabe: another RBI for the 4th batter. He was aiming for that Curve wasn't he... other guy: Yeah, he was sitting on it... Sasaki: that guy really is strong. Senda: the amazing one is that geezer. How did he know that they'll throw a Curve on the 3rd pitch. Like the timing on when the runner may take off, will they pull a squeeze play, he put up such accurate predictions. I'm going way pass respect and is actually more scared of him. This youkai baseball geezer. Sasaki: Well then. It looks like we may be able to score 2 more runs. ED Note: The savviness Veteran - Sasaki Eijiro is guiding his team baseball to new heights. |
GDVOct 30, 2018 11:48 PM
Oct 31, 2018 4:17 AM
#1283
GDV said: I believe that many expect Sawamura to be perfect and to have no more difficulties, but I think they will be disappointedAgain, as I said, people are freaking out too much about Sawamura getting tense. This is all natural, it's a new start for him with new kind of responsibility. Once he figure it out that he just need to focus on making one pitch after another instead of all those responsibilties of carrying whoever dream and whatever, he'll be able to pull off his usual ptiching because as long as he does well like always, he's fulfilling that responsibility. Hence, what's most important is to keep the head in the game, in the moment, not thinking way ahead like Furuya did. As for Yura, different from RoKrish's hunch, I expect Sasaski's ability to predict a play or a pitch is more on his experience of being a veteran coach and not him knowing if a pitcher may be tipping his pitch. A coach can make pretty accurate prediction on how a p;lay may go even he has enough experienece like Keisuke in One Outs and Sasaki profile definitely suggests he has enough experience to do so. I don't expect Sasaki to be able to accurately predict Sawamura's pitch but more on how he may read Kataoka's style of play like direction for fielders' shifts and how they may approach their at bats against Yura's pitchers obviously because he was Kataoka's mentor. It'll be a tough debut match for Sawamura but it may just be even tougher for Kataoka. The players of Seidou will pull them through this match but I expect Kataoka to play right into Sasaki's hands most of the time especially on Seidou's offense opportunities. During the tournament he too will have difficult moments, as it is right |
Oct 31, 2018 5:54 AM
#1284
sannythebest95 said: GDV said: I believe that many expect Sawamura to be perfect and to have no more difficulties, but I think they will be disappointedAgain, as I said, people are freaking out too much about Sawamura getting tense. This is all natural, it's a new start for him with new kind of responsibility. Once he figure it out that he just need to focus on making one pitch after another instead of all those responsibilties of carrying whoever dream and whatever, he'll be able to pull off his usual ptiching because as long as he does well like always, he's fulfilling that responsibility. Hence, what's most important is to keep the head in the game, in the moment, not thinking way ahead like Furuya did. As for Yura, different from RoKrish's hunch, I expect Sasaski's ability to predict a play or a pitch is more on his experience of being a veteran coach and not him knowing if a pitcher may be tipping his pitch. A coach can make pretty accurate prediction on how a p;lay may go even he has enough experienece like Keisuke in One Outs and Sasaki profile definitely suggests he has enough experience to do so. I don't expect Sasaki to be able to accurately predict Sawamura's pitch but more on how he may read Kataoka's style of play like direction for fielders' shifts and how they may approach their at bats against Yura's pitchers obviously because he was Kataoka's mentor. It'll be a tough debut match for Sawamura but it may just be even tougher for Kataoka. The players of Seidou will pull them through this match but I expect Kataoka to play right into Sasaki's hands most of the time especially on Seidou's offense opportunities. During the tournament he too will have difficult moments, as it is right to be honest, I want him to do really well in this first match just to set the mood of the crowd and shut down any leftover doubters given that many (although not in the big teams) are surprised with Sawamura. If he comes in hot (after finding his footing in the first part), a lot of people will be impressed. But in the subsequent matches I'm more okay with him struggling more and having to overcome stuff. I think it would be also interesting that with each match we see him solidify a core number (that is, he is able to consistently pitch, say, the cutter kai. but not really all 11. maybe 3-4 pitches he can rely on consistently) as his confidence and experience grows and he overcomes the challenges that come at him. |
Oct 31, 2018 6:31 AM
#1285
| @GDV: to be honest reading all of these predictions/opinions/ideas, makes me wish that if Terajima indeed decides to end Daiya no Ace, that he'd write another manga in the same verse, this time with the characters having gone pro. I think that other than Out Outs and Major, I can't recall other baseball-based manga covering the professional world. And regarding Eijun's performance, I'm okay with him struggling a bit which is normal, like you said, however I will have a lot of trouble understanding a complete breakdown. Speaking of breaks, and considering they've had a week to finalise the preparations for the tournament, what do you predict Eijun has been working on? They keep mentioning pitches he's already shown, like 2 and 11, but I can't help but to think he's worked on other, as of yet, unrevealed numbers. What do you think? And as always, thanks for the translation! ^_^ |
sanaeozoraOct 31, 2018 6:50 AM
Oct 31, 2018 7:23 AM
#1286
sanaeozora said: @GDV: to be honest reading all of these predictions/opinions/ideas, makes me wish that if Terajima indeed decides to end Daiya no Ace, that he'd write another manga in the same verse, this time with the characters having gone pro. I think that other than Out Outs and Major, I can't recall other baseball-based manga covering the professional world Ehh.. How could you not be aware of Gurazeni which is having the 2nd cour of the anime adaptation showing now in the Fall season? If you want a more realistic and down-to-earth depiction of life as a professional baseball player in Japan, you'll be hard pressed to find one as good as Gurazeni. |
Oct 31, 2018 7:26 AM
#1287
leongsh said: sanaeozora said: @GDV: to be honest reading all of these predictions/opinions/ideas, makes me wish that if Terajima indeed decides to end Daiya no Ace, that he'd write another manga in the same verse, this time with the characters having gone pro. I think that other than Out Outs and Major, I can't recall other baseball-based manga covering the professional world Ehh.. How could you not be aware of Gurazeni which is having the 2nd cour of the anime adaptation showing now in the Fall season? If you want a more realistic and down-to-earth depiction of life as a professional baseball player in Japan, you'll be hard pressed to find one as good as Gurazeni. Yeah, Gurazeni is another one of those shows that cover the professional stage of Japanese baseball and it's realistic yet laid back feels that it have is pretty good to watch. |
Oct 31, 2018 7:43 AM
#1288
sanaeozora said: And regarding Eijun's performance, I'm okay with him struggling a bit which is normal, like you said, however I will have a lot of trouble understanding a complete breakdown. Speaking of breaks, and considering they've had a week to finalise the preparations for the tournament, what do you predict Eijun has been working on? They keep mentioning pitches he's already shown, like 2 and 11, but I can't help but to think he's worked on other, as of yet, unrevealed numbers. What do you think? Yeah, I seriously doubt we're in for a complete break down at any point this Summer, maybe after Summer Koshien and Sawamura is somehow very gassed after taking Seidou for a deep run but not in any time soon. Miyuki has been mentioning that Sawamura's 2-seamer is getting better and better through time. Considering the fact that it has barely any break at all back in the Fall Tourney and now it's like a 2-seamer, at times hard Sinker is pretty filthy. Miyuki just keep focusing on attacking the low-inside part of a lefty while the real filthy trajectory for a 2-seamer/sinker is to throw it inside for front-door pitch against an opposing handed batter. For example, this is a righty pitcher vs. lefty batter matchup, just imagine it being switched around for Sawamura. https://imgur.com/r/filthypitches/5LpBNQF Miyuki idea to use the 2-seamer against a lefty batter isn't bad but he's still making way too much emphasis on having Sawamura throws a pitch somewhere near the middle of the zone and then have it break away to the corner. They'll get away with it at high school level but Sawamura can expand his range so much more and take his pitching to another level. Miyuki right now is not capable of pointing that out. Anyway, we can see him trying to keep Sawamura under a leash and not let him overwork himself before the match which is a good improvement from before where he used cave in to Furuya's demand quite a bit of times. Bottom line is Sawamura's 2-seamer is getting better quickly through time and that's pretty scary for batters. Terajima seems like he's in the mood for No. 2 and 11 at the moment. I don't know if he's willing to unveil another pitch but to me, I dislike the Splitter with a passion so I'm not impressed that Sawamura is spending time on it instead of on other pitches like the Vulcan Changeup for example or working on a breaking pitch like a Curve. The Splitter is redundant for a pitcher like Sawamura who has 3 types of changeups. Splitter is only useful for pitchers who can't produce a good changeup and has no other off-pace option but to use a Splitter while putt their arm at risk as a result. Sawamura's never needed this pitch. |
GDVOct 31, 2018 7:58 AM
Oct 31, 2018 7:50 AM
#1289
| That had totally slipped under my radar! I will check it out after I finish watching Taisho Baseball Girls, that's been on my to-watch list for too long. Thanks for pointing it out! Addendum: Regarding Eijun's arsenal, to be honest I was a little worried to read that he wanted to work on the other numbers and while it would probably be cool story-wise, to have a brand new pitch revealed, I think that as some of you have already mentioned, it would be better if Eijun just worked on his perfecting what he already has, which is A LOT. Having said that, and if Terajima were to reveal a new pitch type, which one would you like to see? And about Miyuki, if I think about it, perhaps his shortcomings with the way he uses Eijun's 2-seam make him a little more human and less perfect? Again, he has shown a little bit of improvement with the way he's keeping Eijun's pitch count in check. And on that note, I find it hilarious how Okumura always seems to agree with Miyuki when it comes to managing Eijun's....I think it's literally the only thing Okumura freely agrees with Miyuki about. |
sanaeozoraOct 31, 2018 8:13 AM
Oct 31, 2018 9:31 PM
#1290
sanaeozora said: That had totally slipped under my radar! I will check it out after I finish watching Taisho Baseball Girls, that's been on my to-watch list for too long. Thanks for pointing it out! Addendum: Regarding Eijun's arsenal, to be honest I was a little worried to read that he wanted to work on the other numbers and while it would probably be cool story-wise, to have a brand new pitch revealed, I think that as some of you have already mentioned, it would be better if Eijun just worked on his perfecting what he already has, which is A LOT. Having said that, and if Terajima were to reveal a new pitch type, which one would you like to see? And about Miyuki, if I think about it, perhaps his shortcomings with the way he uses Eijun's 2-seam make him a little more human and less perfect? Again, he has shown a little bit of improvement with the way he's keeping Eijun's pitch count in check. And on that note, I find it hilarious how Okumura always seems to agree with Miyuki when it comes to managing Eijun's....I think it's literally the only thing Okumura freely agrees with Miyuki about. This is an easy question. The answer is a bona fide breaking ball. He has movement off of his moving fastballs (cutters and 2 seamers) and change of speed off of his changeups (vulcan, palmball, and circle changeup) and splitter. He needs a legit breaking ball which both moves and changes speeds to induce swings and misses on balls out of the zone. something like a curveball or a slider would take his game to another level. Breaking balls are more difficult to hit and if sawamura spins the ball as tightly as he spins his four seamer to call it unfair would be an understatement. At the very least it gives batters another thing to think about. |
Nov 2, 2018 1:48 AM
#1291
RoKrish said: This is an easy question. The answer is a bona fide breaking ball. He has movement off of his moving fastballs (cutters and 2 seamers) and change of speed off of his changeups (vulcan, palmball, and circle changeup) and splitter. He needs a legit breaking ball which both moves and changes speeds to induce swings and misses on balls out of the zone. something like a curveball or a slider would take his game to another level. Breaking balls are more difficult to hit and if sawamura spins the ball as tightly as he spins his four seamer to call it unfair would be an understatement. At the very least it gives batters another thing to think about. Considering Seido's about to start the tournament, would it be realistic if Eijun did learn the curveball or a slider? We know he learned the changeup overnight, but I think it'd be a bit of a stretch to add those to the list...except if one of the other, unstable numbers IS a curveball and/or a slider. This of course would trigger another question: other than Ochiai and his vague hints, will we ever see a member of the coaching staff actually teaching their pitchers how to execute new pitches? Because so far, there's been none of that, which is highly disappointing if you ask me. |
Nov 2, 2018 6:42 AM
#1292
sanaeozora said: This of course would trigger another question: other than Ochiai and his vague hints, will we ever see a member of the coaching staff actually teaching their pitchers how to execute new pitches? Because so far, there's been none of that, which is highly disappointing if you ask me. He may have a curveball because he showed that grip to Asada once and it was a curveball grip. He didn't specify the grip he was holding though. Miyuki taught Furuya a Splitter and Sawamura tried out a Cutter and 2-seame on his own. Ochiai knowledge on breaking pitch is frankly overrated. Everything he said can be easily obtainable through a simple search on the internet, nothing more comprehensive than that and he never give Sawamura advices on how to improve the other pitches, Sawamura practices those with Miyuki on their own. Ochiai did teach Furuya how to pitch a Slider but seeing how he doesn't fix Furuya's mechanics on the pitch despite it being a sloppy Slurve most of the time is again demonstrating a lack of depth on the understanding of the breaking pitches in question. Kataoka has a Curveball as a pitcher yet he never find a time to teach that to his pitchers which seriously irresponsible as that's how most pitchers learn a breaking pitch, they learn it from trying it out through what they've seen in books or on the net and then make adjustments based on what their peers give them especially from pitchers that also have the same pitch that can share some valuable advices and experiences. Kataoka is seriously neglecting his job as a coach who was formerly a pitcher and the rest of the team are just not knowledgeable enough about pitching to give an advice; yet the guy who technically has the most expertise on pitcher keeps his mouth shut most of the time as far as pitching mechanics are concerned. |
Nov 2, 2018 7:01 AM
#1293
GDV said: sanaeozora said: This of course would trigger another question: other than Ochiai and his vague hints, will we ever see a member of the coaching staff actually teaching their pitchers how to execute new pitches? Because so far, there's been none of that, which is highly disappointing if you ask me. He may have a curveball because he showed that grip to Asada once and it was a curveball grip. He didn't specify the grip he was holding though. Miyuki taught Furuya a Splitter and Sawamura tried out a Cutter and 2-seame on his own. Ochiai knowledge on breaking pitch is frankly overrated. Everything he said can be easily obtainable through a simple search on the internet, nothing more comprehensive than that and he never give Sawamura advices on how to improve the other pitches, Sawamura practices those with Miyuki on their own. Ochiai did teach Furuya how to pitch a Slider but seeing how he doesn't fix Furuya's mechanics on the pitch despite it being a sloppy Slurve most of the time is again demonstrating a lack of depth on the understanding of the breaking pitches in question. Kataoka has a Curveball as a pitcher yet he never find a time to teach that to his pitchers which seriously irresponsible as that's how most pitchers learn a breaking pitch, they learn it from trying it out through what they've seen in books or on the net and then make adjustments based on what their peers give them especially from pitchers that also have the same pitch that can share some valuable advices and experiences. Kataoka is seriously neglecting his job as a coach who was formerly a pitcher and the rest of the team are just not knowledgeable enough about pitching to give an advice; yet the guy who technically has the most expertise on pitcher keeps his mouth shut most of the time as far as pitching mechanics are concerned. Yeah, that's precisely the biggest problem I have with the way the pitchers are managed in Seido. So far, only Miyuki and Chris-senpai have been shown themselves capable of teaching anything to their pitchers. I've always been confused as to why a catcher seems to know more about pitching than an actual pitcher in this series. Even between Ochiai and Kataoka. I really wish Terajima remembered that moment when Kataoka taught Eijun to use a towel to practice the throwing mechanics. After that, it seems like he's been absolutely neglecting the pitchers, which is really sad. |
Nov 2, 2018 6:57 PM
#1294
sanaeozora said: Considering Seido's about to start the tournament, would it be realistic if Eijun did learn the curveball or a slider? We know he learned the changeup overnight, but I think it'd be a bit of a stretch to add those to the list...except if one of the other, unstable numbers IS a curveball and/or a slider. This of course would trigger another question: other than Ochiai and his vague hints, will we ever see a member of the coaching staff actually teaching their pitchers how to execute new pitches? Because so far, there's been none of that, which is highly disappointing if you ask me. Its not unrealistic to be quite honest, Sawamura spins the ball tightly and well (you can't have that nasty cutter with sloppy spin) so given the opportunity to work on it (which seidou... shall we say doesn't really do since their coaching staff is pretty awful) he could throw a nasty one. It doesn't have to be perfect since Sawamura is, in any case, a southpaw since breaking balls from a lefty are already more difficult to deal with. I don't expect him to come out throwing perfect Randy Johnson Sliders or Sandy Koufax Curves, I do think that he can throw a serviceable breaking ball to throw batters off his fastballs and changeups as a variation to keep batters honest. Seidou's coaching staff is bad, so probably no. the idea that if a pitcher can't do it on his first try he's useless is bs. Pitchers have to learn a lot of things and what was once a weakness can become a strength if they are given the time and care to work on it. Kataoka doesn't really seem to know what he's doing and we probably never will see him coaching any of his pitchers 1 on 1. Ochiai on the other hand does indeed know what he's doing, but doesn't seem to care about developing Sawamura at all, rather he seems to actively oppose sawamura at every step. Miyuki doesn't really know what he's doing, but he's doing his best, which I can't really fault him for. One reason why this match may be so big, is that it may wake Kataoka up to the idea that he should be focused on helping his players develop by interacting with them, and may lead to him working with Furuya to straighten out his mechanics and teaching sawamura how to throw a curveball (as a pitcher he had a fearsome one back in the day) because Sasaki might tell him, that worked for him may not work for everyone and that sometimes some of these kids need to have an arm around their shoulders to get the best out of them. |
Nov 4, 2018 3:15 AM
#1295
| im not baseball expert so excuse me if this question is dumb - since sawamura pitches differently and it is based on grips, will a pitch move differently to what it normally would and be a different kind of pitch even if he used the same type of grip? for example if he uses the "normal" grip for curveball, will it turn out to be a different type of pitch? this is considering he throws just how he throws his fastballs, like how he do the numbers. i wonder to what extent does his flexibility changes his pitching than other not so flexible pitchers like mei for example? |
Nov 4, 2018 7:58 PM
#1296
manganimae said: im not baseball expert so excuse me if this question is dumb - since sawamura pitches differently and it is based on grips, will a pitch move differently to what it normally would and be a different kind of pitch even if he used the same type of grip? for example if he uses the "normal" grip for curveball, will it turn out to be a different type of pitch? this is considering he throws just how he throws his fastballs, like how he do the numbers. i wonder to what extent does his flexibility changes his pitching than other not so flexible pitchers like mei for example? Short answer no. Longer answer kind of? Every pitcher's breaking balls are somewhat different and are gripped somewhat differently from each others. That said you can still tell what pitch is what based on a couple of things (location, spin, movement through the air, etc.) and with breaking balls you can only really spin them a certain way, if you change your grip you can't suddenly make a curveball back up and spin away from your glove side, you can sort of do that with a slider (for example Edwin Diaz does with his slider), but it has more to do with the amount of spin or how deep you hold it in your hand. The more a ball spins though the tighter, sharper, and later the break. Sawamura spins the crap out of the ball on his fastballs (its why his heater has ride on it, or his cutter cuts so late and sharp, or why his two seamer runs away so late) but based on what was shown he seems to struggle with spinning the ball out of his hand with a breaking ball grip, probably since people cough Ochiai being freaking useless again cough never told him that the way to throw a breaking ball is to spin it out of your hand. so beyond being a bit more of his own pitch, and probably having a tight late break, its going to be pretty conventional. and there is nothing wrong with that. besides Sawamura's Cutter Kai and Vulcan Changeup, most of his arsenal is kind of... well... normal. what makes him exceptional is the level at which he can command his stuff and locate it consistently and the amount of late movement on the pitch. Its not the amount of movement its how he uses his natural tool set to the maximum effect that makes him special. |
Nov 5, 2018 12:43 AM
#1297
RoKrish said: manganimae said: im not baseball expert so excuse me if this question is dumb - since sawamura pitches differently and it is based on grips, will a pitch move differently to what it normally would and be a different kind of pitch even if he used the same type of grip? for example if he uses the "normal" grip for curveball, will it turn out to be a different type of pitch? this is considering he throws just how he throws his fastballs, like how he do the numbers. i wonder to what extent does his flexibility changes his pitching than other not so flexible pitchers like mei for example? Short answer no. Longer answer kind of? Every pitcher's breaking balls are somewhat different and are gripped somewhat differently from each others. That said you can still tell what pitch is what based on a couple of things (location, spin, movement through the air, etc.) and with breaking balls you can only really spin them a certain way, if you change your grip you can't suddenly make a curveball back up and spin away from your glove side, you can sort of do that with a slider (for example Edwin Diaz does with his slider), but it has more to do with the amount of spin or how deep you hold it in your hand. The more a ball spins though the tighter, sharper, and later the break. Sawamura spins the crap out of the ball on his fastballs (its why his heater has ride on it, or his cutter cuts so late and sharp, or why his two seamer runs away so late) but based on what was shown he seems to struggle with spinning the ball out of his hand with a breaking ball grip, probably since people cough Ochiai being freaking useless again cough never told him that the way to throw a breaking ball is to spin it out of your hand. so beyond being a bit more of his own pitch, and probably having a tight late break, its going to be pretty conventional. and there is nothing wrong with that. besides Sawamura's Cutter Kai and Vulcan Changeup, most of his arsenal is kind of... well... normal. what makes him exceptional is the level at which he can command his stuff and locate it consistently and the amount of late movement on the pitch. Its not the amount of movement its how he uses his natural tool set to the maximum effect that makes him special. regarding this spins - there is this anime "One Outs" wherein Touka (the main protagonist, who is a pitcher who can control the amout of spins and that changes the way the ball drops. Is that actually possible? |
Nov 5, 2018 12:48 AM
#1298
manganimae said: im not baseball expert so excuse me if this question is dumb - since sawamura pitches differently and it is based on grips, will a pitch move differently to what it normally would and be a different kind of pitch even if he used the same type of grip? for example if he uses the "normal" grip for curveball, will it turn out to be a different type of pitch? this is considering he throws just how he throws his fastballs, like how he do the numbers. i wonder to what extent does his flexibility changes his pitching than other not so flexible pitchers like mei for example? All pitcher's grips are somewhat a little different from each other, some even drastically different. There's a pitcher who produce a hard Sinker out of what was supposedly a Curveball grip to him. Some can't produce a Sinker off of a normal 2-seamer grip so they have to switch the grip a bit to a sort of 1-seamer to make it a Sinker. The variations go on. Sawamura's flexibility does 2 things. Firstly, it acts as a buffer from injury. Flexible athletes tend to be more durable and less injury-prone than others. Secondly, Sawamura can add a crap ton of spins on his pitches. This makes his pitch faster at the plate compare to another pitcher's that has the same velocity because the more spin a pitch has, the easier it cuts through the air, minimizing its deceleration of the pitch. In addition, breaking fastball with a lot of spins tend to break more violently and closer at the plate than other's. However, this also mean that Sawamura's breaking pitch like a Curveball for example, may have too much spin on it and it just make the ball breaks too much it may not reach the plate because the breaking pitch velocity is slower than a breaking fastball so when he spins a slower pitch too much, it actually makes it very difficult to control (we actually sort of saw this in one of the flash back before the Naruta tech game). However, this also means that if he execute it right, good luck hitting it because the pitch will dips violently and batters will swing over it most of the time. |
Nov 5, 2018 2:09 AM
#1299
| Spoiler from 2ch. Like always, take it with a grain of salt. Chapter 145: Encouragement Seidou's opponent in their first match has been decided and it's indeed Yura. Yura pulls off squeeze play, base stealing and hit & run plays with high success rate, usually it takes them just 1 pitch to execute these plays and their scoring potential is high because of it. 4th batter Senda also drove in 3 RBIs. Yura Ace comes out on the 6th inning and he pitches perfecto without letting a runner getting on base and Yura won another called game by 13 - 2 after the 7th inning. Sawamura is named the starting pitcher for the match against Yura on the next morning and Furuya will start the 4th round game after 2 days (granted Seidou win but Kataoka is already acting like they will). Kataoka also tell Kawakami and Kaneda to get ready in the bullpen early so they can be called in anytime since they can't expect what the opponent may pull. Miyuki thinks that' it's Kataoka way of getting all 4 pitchers in the mindset that'll get play time and make it easier to use the pitcher relay during the Tournament. Sawamura recalls Kataoka's feedback in his note (a more recent one apparently) "There will obviously be high expectation for you since you've been entrusted with the Ace number. However, that requires you to just have to keep pitching like how you have been doing up until now so I hope that you will continue to do so like always from here on out." Sawamura is then fired up after that recollection of Kataoka's words in his note. "Let's hope Sawamura first debut match won't go south." thinks Ochiai. Meanwhile, Sasaki got his hands on the video records of the Ichidaisan and Hakuryu match from his acquaintance and started watching the Ichidai match. Sasaki notice that Furuya who has lost his form and was a completely different pitcher from what he was back in the Senbatsu has been replaced by Sawamura. He also evaluates that Sawamura pitching has rose to a completely different level than he was back in Fall and that the fiery eyes that he has during a match is good. For Furuya who has make a splash in Senbatsu to fall out of shape and for the team to experience such radical changes within the span of just 3 months means that there are quite a few gaps in Seidou's game that he can look to exploit and that got Sasaki's competitive drive going. Seidou players is seen taking swing (presumably in the evening) where Kuramochi got a call on LINE from Ryosuke and he also let Haruichi participate in the talk. Zono also call Jun and tells the later to wait from him in Koshien. Furuya is also seen taking a swing near where Yui was standing. Yui ask if Furuya wants to take some throw, he'll help him out but seeing how hard Sawamura is trying, Furuya also wants to be obedient to the rule and say he'll practice pitching on the next day instead. Miyuki talks with Okumura about Sawamrua's form he showed in the bullpen earlier and they agreed that Sawamura looks stiff but Okumura say Sawamura's face when he pitched before looks sort of loose and dumb (reference the weird smile) so that's not good either way. Miyuki said that Sawamura was unsatisfied for not being able to practice enough but at the same time he has the Ace number so he seems to be getting nervous so that frustrates him, Miyuki said and wonders about how would it be a good way to talk to him but he doubt that if he doesn't put it out plainly, Sawamura won't get it. Miyuki then recalls about his thoughts he had 2 months back after the Sankou game where he thought he has never imagine that Sawamura would be able to wear the Ace number but Sawamura has constantly be able to surprise him. At that time, Sawamura received a LINE call from Chris. |
Nov 5, 2018 2:10 AM
#1300
manganimae said: regarding this spins - there is this anime "One Outs" wherein Touka (the main protagonist, who is a pitcher who can control the amout of spins and that changes the way the ball drops. Is that actually possible? It's possible but it's a very rare ability to have. |
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