| Furuya will be switched after 6th inning max, he may even be switched out after taking a bat. He's at 87 pitches or averaging 17.4 pitches/inning so he'll reach 100 after the 6th inning anyway. There are a couple of guys that can close this out and Seidou really doesn't lack pitchers at this point. Kaneda is warming up in the bullpen with Okumura, he may comes in next or after another one. Kawakami is not in the bullpen and he pitched a game on the day before so he surely isn't going to pitch today. Kaneda to Toujou may be the relay. If Kaneda does well, let him closes out the remaining 2 innings but given that Yamamori is a Koshien level team, a 3-pitchers relay is the best option. Zono has the face that he's going to hit a Homer but he has flopped before so yeah, let's see how it turns out next chapter. |
GDVMar 19, 2018 6:50 PM
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GDV said: ...Yamamori is a Koshien level team... to me, Yamamori don't seem a real threat or a powerhouse like Hakuryuu High School (Mima) 2 run on this Furuya (just come back from injury) Maybe i'm too harsh, but i believe Hakuryuu High School will do 3 or 4 in 5 innings to this Furuya |
ADellaLuna said: to me, Yamamori don't seem a real threat or a powerhouse like Hakuryuu High School (Mima) 2 run on this Furuya (just come back from injury) Maybe i'm too harsh, but i believe Hakuryuu High School will do 3 or 4 in 5 innings to this Furuya Because Hakuryu's play style is a lethal match for Furuya. Hakuryu thrives on getting on base with good, consistent batting instead of going for homers. They know how to bait pitches, wait for pitches and get on base with high probability. On there, they'll go for steals and pressure the pitcher. Furuya has tendency to waste pitches and walk runners, on top of that, his slide step and pick-off is slow so he's a terrible match to Hakuryu which thrives on mobility. Once Hakuryu batter manages to get on base and they will because Fuuruya will walk them on, problems will spiral out of control for Furuya. If Furuya were to have pitched a complete match against Hakuryu, 6 - 7 Earned runs would be mercy for him. |
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| You guys haven’t got to the gist of it. Whether against Furuya or Sawamura or whomever, Hakuryu’s play style won’t change. At the heart of it, they’ll always use their high OBP to pressure the pitcher, even if they have Sawamura’s information or not, they wouldn’t do much different. In fact, Mima immediately scout Sawamura’s best pitch which was the Cutter and told his team by the end of 1st inning, even with that information and a batting lineup skilled enough to Connect to Sawamura’s changeup, they couldn’t do jack. Also it’s not correct to say they used the strategy prepared for Furuya to play against Sawamura. Yes Hakuryu’s coach said he saw Furuya in Senbatsu but did he ever said they’ll use the same strategy or anything. In fact, Hakuryu evolved their play as they play and their coach constantly kept his watch on Sawamura, finding out about his slide steps, double trick Miyuki into his own over-aggressive pitch calling and Sawamura got through them all. Hakuyu was out of their depth playing against Sawamura is the conclusion we can arrive at. It’s just naturally a matchup that favors Sawamura. |
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| maybe i've used the wrong team. What i mean is with this furuya just now, every real powerhouse shoud give him some real problem. 2 run is not a big deal. Ichidai, Inashiro or Teito will do better job then Yamamori IMHO |
| There are a couple of factors we have to consider here before jumping to conclusion. Yes, Yamamori may seems weak and to be honest, they may actually be weaker than Inajitsu, Yakushi, Ichidaisan, Hakuryu, you name it but they do look to have what it takes to be at Koshien level. With that said, we have to consider that this is the 2nd game they play in their double header, the lineup is expected to be tired somewhat. It may also means that Yamamori is just a team that lacks the power to score much from Furuya. Although this may not be over yet so we don't have to expect this to be the final ER he'll record at the end of this match. |
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| Is there a way I can watch the rakuten golden eagles games online, I don’t know where to find them, if anyone who speaks Japanese that knows a site or that could look it up that’d be awesome. |
| Because last chapter was a week late does that mean the breaks already done with? |
elsa16 said: RoKrish said: just a reminder no chapter this week it's already been a week since the last chapter, we should have one this week right? Yeah I think so cause the last chapter was a week late then it was week after that so I’m thinking there is a chapter this week |
RoKrish said: haha all good, it was a weird couple of weeksTravee_Wavvee said: Yeah I think so cause the last chapter was a week late then it was week after that so I’m thinking there is a chapter this week Yep my bad, I lost track of time since the last chapter. lol |
| Okay, spoilers from 2ch came out. Like usual, take it with a grain of salt. Don’t know what happens to Zono but Furuya comes to bat after him and got stuck on a nice play from Yamamori for a Double play, the inning closed. Kataoka tells Furuya and Yui that their pitch limit is 100 and that Furuya will be switched out after the 6th inning. He also tells Kaneda to get ready. Furuya manages to get 1 strike out with his fastball while Ochiai calmly watches on. Meanwhile, Sawamura started to warm up himself |
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| Sounds like a nice casual chapter which will translate good to anime haha |
| Chapter 116: We ain't done yet OP note: The leading actors in Summer are the 3rd years. Note: It's a golden opportunity to even the score with one hit. Yamamori pitcher: Ball to Second! We can get a Double Play! 4 - 6 - 3! (4-6-3 play is a common double play by 2nd baseman #4, to SS #6, then to 1st base #3, the number is their shirt number, Haruichi and Mochi are famous for this play as well as the other one 6-4-3) Zono: Uooh!! Umpire: SAFE! - Shirasu was out at 2nd but Zono made it safe to first base while Haruichi scores. Audiences: With the failed double play, 3rd base runner home-in. The game is tied! To think that he would attempt to fist pump after that poor grounder. That was nearly a Double Play. Anyhow, the 3rd base runner was able to come home. It's important, this 1 ugly run. Isn't too ugly anyway? Haruichi: Give me your arm guard. Sawamura: You see that miraculous luck that was able to avoid the double play from such a poor hit? A big deal head slide, This is our 4th batter. What do you think? First year: Senpai, that's not a compliment... Sawamura: Up next is Furuya, let's keep this momentum running. Seidou's natural reckless charging train. Once this guy gets running, no one can stop him! Yui: Furuya san Furuya: The team has started to take back the hold of the game. It is fine if we can recover from now on The twins: Even if I throw it to a good location, they'll hit it back. We thought we got them out, they'll score regardless. These kind of things are what we can't get unless we play against a National-class team. We will get overwhelmed by their momentum or will we push them back and finish them off. It's getting exciting. - Furuya grounds the ball pass the pitcher but was caught by SS. It's a 6-4-3 play again but this time they succeed. Audiences: Uooh, It's a Double Play. This time, Yamamori has displayed their defense capabilities this time. Yamamori players: 6-4-3! 6-4-3! 6-4-3! Sawamura: Well played! Even though you're our opponent, Bravo! Kataoka: Furuya, Yui. --Bottom of the 6th-- Kataoka: 100 pitches. I thought about have 100 pitches the aim for you today right from the start. I also said that to Kaneda and had him prepare himself. So it's this inning. You 2 go and defend this inning well. Yamamori batter: Ugh, it really is fast. Seidou dugout: Alright! He cornered him. Good job Furuya! Seto: Has his straight fastball recovered it's life again? Sawamura: He ain't done yet with this. -Furuya after getting 2 strikes on a swinging Strike and a Foul, messed up a breaking pitch down the dirt. Count is 1-2. Furuya: My bad Yui: ...sorry. But I want to make the batter see the breaking pitch and keep that in his mind so what we can finish with is obviously... -Furuya K batter with a fastball. Umpire: Strike batter out! Yui: Alright! Sawamura: That's good Furuya! Everyone is battling in their own position...I'll do so as well. Let's warm up. Yui: Nice ball Furuya san Furuya: I can still do it. I can still pitch more. Audiences: Obviously it's straight fastball when it comes to Furuya. If he can locate that thing, no one will be able to hit that. Let's go higher for us from here on out. Ochiai: (...) ED note: What's being reflected in the "adviser's" eyes? |
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| Is it just me that thinks that no matter the circumstance it is better to run through first base rather than dive/slide into it? Obviously 2nd 3rd base you have to slide or else you can be tagged out and home plate you have to slide to get around the catcher/avoid the tag/not get called out cause of dangerous play. First base you can freely run through it. And if you run through first instead of diving it gives you the opportunity to turn the corner and go to second if something happens. Maybe it’s just my American upbringing of baseball but we never dive at first. It seems like every bang bang play Japan players dive, at least on the HS level I haven’t watched enough NPB. I just want to see Sawamura pitch. And kind of see the climax of the Japan US game. Do you think TJ will even show the 2nd US Japan game in detail or even at all? Either way jersey numbers will be given out very shortly after this, as will the final 20 members. Last year they did the first 20 members first then the summer training of death then the numbers reveal, maybe they might do both together this time idk. |
| @Gundens Not just you that think that it's not a bright idea to dive head-first into 1st base, me neither nor anyone who knows baseball for that matters. We actually would not even slide into 2nd or 3rd base unless it's a very close play and the baseman got the ball first, then we decide to slide into it. Otherwise, if it's a good hit and you have time, why should you ever slide. In fact, I don't think I've ever seen Mochi or Haruichi does something like that, they never slide when they try to leg out to 1st, so let's just say that Zono isn't exactly the brightest guy so what he does sort of "defies conventional wisdom" when it comes to base running. I think we'll be able to see Sawamura on the mound in 2 chapters granted Terajima doesn't switch back to the Tokyo Senbatsu game. Furuya will be finishing his final inning of the day in the next chapter and we can expect Kaneda's pitching to be fast-forwarded and then Sawamura will gets onto the mound at the earliest final part of the chapter after the next. Yeah, you're right. Last time they sort out the final 20 members before they start the Summer training camp, then after wards, they played a few more practice games, one with Osaka Kiryuu and a Double header with Yokohama (something) and Inajitsu afterwards. After that double header, the shirt numbers are given out. That was last year though when they weren't that famous and play very few practice games before the training camp so they had to wait until the last moment to see if there's any change in players' performance. This time, they've played like 18 matches, 20 if you include the current double header, so that's more than enough sample size to indicate which players are worth being in the final roster, especially the ownership of the Ace number. If they do decide to play a few more practice game after the training camp then they the coaching staffs may decide to hold on to the jersey number disclosure but we can expect them to have already came to a conclusion after these games. Keep in mind that the previous training camp back in Sawamura's first year took place in the SECOND WEEK OF JUNE. We're at the 1st day of June in-universe and since it's a Sunday, we can expect that Seidou will be done playing practice game after these double headers so they would probably start at the latest on the following Sunday or even during the week day. So it's definitely too late to change anything if Sawamura scores a good game here. Another double header after the training camp isn't going to change Furuya's standing. However, it's crunch time for Okumura and Seto since these 2 games will probably decide whether they can stay in the 1st stiring or not. The same goes to Yui, Masashi, Takatsu, etc. We're closer to the Summer Tourney than we thought. |
GDVMar 21, 2018 3:40 AM
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TeamAce said: If it were not for Sawamura and Kuramochi, I would almost cheer for the inajitsuWell, Zono with the lackluster performance once again. Gotta be honest, he has to one of the worst characters on sports manga with so many screen time... From the times at the beginning of the series, while at the 2nd String, where he was the first to bash on Chris without even knowing who he was (how is that possible, really? how can a 2nd year not know a guy - and his story on the team - that was a regular on the 1st String one year before?), not to mention that he also was the first to criticise a rookie that had just arrived to the team, Sawamura, instead of encourage him; To the times when he got to the 1st String and all the games until the present, where he was always so hyped as a natural pull hitter, Jun saying that he has some things that he himself hadn't, so much screen times, so much effort to show him training and etc, so much at-bats with that bad face... and what he have done of relevance, apart from that hit against Teitou?; To the present, where he's still having all this featured moments where he's expected of a big hit, and always not coming through... and, as a third year, is even more annoying with the loud speeches, the cliche phrases, the "leave it all to us, third years", only to fail as usual... it's no wonder he does so bad on the rankings lol. What a waste of time on this character. If we at least could see a honest rivalry between him and Yamaguchi (poor guy, doesn't even got the chance, even if doing probably as well as Zono) or any other guy, it wouldn't be so bad, but oh well, it's what we got... In my opinion it has characters better characterized than those of the Seidou Before there was also Haruici, but now he is a secondary character Obviously there isn't comparison with Tetsu, Chris, Jun, Masuko and Ryousuke |
Salvaju29roMar 21, 2018 4:38 AM
| @TeamAce I agree so much. It's almost painful to see Sawamura like that. I hope it's a smile of confidence in his abilities and knowing that he'll best him rather than him being heavy-hearted. I think what weighs on me the most is that Sawamura has had absolutely no support system in this supposed "ace race". We are a 116 chapters in and no one has outright acknowledged him as the potential and, honestly, the true/better ace for the team. So he has to just keep believing in himself and the stellar results he's been putting out. I don't think he has doubts about his own performance, but a bit of validation for him will go a long way. And it doesn't help at all that Furuya conveniently gets better for the sake of plot. He just came from an injury and has barely been working on his control/breaking balls, but he's already back in good shape. What I'm hoping Furuya's pitching will do is light the fire under him so that he'll take his pitching to the next level. He's been amazing already, but I hope to see him do a complete game shut-out to make everyone shut the hell up about Furuya. I really hate saying this because Sawamura has nothing to prove to anyone, and I hate holding him to unncessary standards since he is already too good, but somehow with Furuya's magical power-ups the stakes for him are higher. Also, I got chills, and in a bad way, from the ending, I hope Ochiai isn't trying to lobby for ace Furuya again. |
Paix672Mar 21, 2018 5:06 AM
| @TeamAce I wouldn't disagree with you, Zono was after all the most disappointing character from the first Arc of Act 1 and there were considerable efforts from Terajima to try and make him more likeable but he just hasn't struck a cord yet with this character. It's not that we would dislike him because he's goofy but more importantly, we would like him more if he were to be able to produce better results to back up his claims / clichés statements. He's almost a comedic relief character at the moment and that's fine but as a 5th batter on the starting order, we're concerned that whether will he be able to deliver or will he just keep being goofy for the sake of being goofy and remains lacklustered. I don't think we have to be that harsh on Furuya command at this point. I personally can go on taking apart his pitching mechanics and breaking pitches for days but in terms of command, that's somewhat reasonable. A pitcher overstraining his shoulder to pitch hard like Furuya, and yes he's overstraining it obviously because no 2nd year Japanese kid is able to pitch 154 kph without overstraining his shoulder or putting more stress on his body, he has to compromise in terms of command. There's unfortunately no other way. Most power pitcher wouldn't be able to fix their command until the pro-stage of their career where coaching staffs are more professional and there are better equipment and experts on mechanics to help them fix that. To be fair, all scouts and audiences would naturally be hooked and be clamouring over Furuya's fastball velocity without caring his command even exist so there's really no surprise at all there. It's the same in real life as well. However, I do agree with you that the audience raving about Furuya's pitching at the slightest sign of him scoring a Strikeout is getting extremely old and not that fact that we feels bad about but more on how they acts as if with just that Furuya is better than all pitchers in Seidou without even remember Sawamura's existence much less his recent ridiculous results. But then, it's nothing new at this point and we have to expect that to not go away anytime soon. I even expect this situation to stay the same even after Sawamura gets that Ace title. |
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Paix672 said: @TeamAce I hope to see him do a complete game shut-out to make everyone shut the hell up about Furuya. it will be great, but i don't think Terajima will write in this way. 1 or 2 run during 9 innings just to add more "suspance" |
ADellaLunaMar 21, 2018 2:07 PM
| I don’t think Yui and Okumura have to worry about making the first string now that Ono has gone down with an injury. Since besides Miyuki there’s no other catcher, they have to at least carry one of them. And if you carry one you might as well carry the other since the plan was most likely going to bring on one or the other as a 3rd catcher anyway. With seto he may have a harder time getting on, but they may include him instead of someone like Kijima or nakata. Or maybe not since TJ seems to always include the veterans as being important to the team |
TeamAce said: Regarding Furuya, I understand that, but - this coming from an european guy, where baseball is completely irrelevant, and only watches baseball-like in mangas, Pitcherlist and that youtube channel of pitcher's highlights -, I don't understand how that wouldn't make him so easy to target in a long run... I mean, if he would come for an inning or two, do his job with his strikeouts and get out of the mound, that's perfectly fine. But being there for like 5, 6, 7 innings... I've never even been at a plate, but in an elite environment like this High-schools (or the image that the manga sells us), how are they so amazed and unable to react to those pitches after so many innings? I mean, don't they train with machines to hit 150/155kph pitches, or something (I remember Miyuki saying that the previous 3rd year catcher could catch 160kph pitches, so, they should be able to train that; or in Major, all the teammates being able to react to Goro's pitches after some time, as well as in One Outs)? From high-level batters of National-level worth teams, like this one of the twins, but also many from Tokyo, I mean, after one or two at-bats, wouldn't they be able to react to those (or, even, haven't they watched pitches of similar velocities before, in the games and practices they have with other top-tier teams?)? Specially knowing perfectly when it's just a breaking ball or when it's not a strike, like even Yui confessed, or Miyuki is always saying, with "just overpower them with your straight-fastball"... It makes me some confusion where's the problem in really adjusting with so many opportunities. Hence why it also makes me some confusion in why so many love to him as a pitcher and so much encouragement in him as the Ace, as the Starter (or the player that will play many innings for sure); no one would care if he was just a relief or a closer to get his job done in 1/2 innings, get his outs, help his pitching rotation, and that's it. But anything more than that... I don't understand how the teams wouldn't be able to adjust, find some strategies (like Akikawa) and destroy him as the starter/Ace of the team. If you were to encounter an avid Furuya's fan or a flame thrower fan, all they'll do is say "fastball is the hardest pitch to hit in baseball, do you even watch baseball?" and leave it at that, thinking that's the "be all end all" argument. No, that's shallow, I'm not going to do that. This is a good question and I'll try to elaborate as much as I can for you and it'll be a long read so buckle up. First and foremost, is a fastball about 150 - 160 kph that impressive? Yes, it is. Pitching hard without control is definitely not the effective way to pitch which I'll get to later but first let's just introduce why people like and afraid the fastball. You have to have experience standing in a batter box to truly appreciate it's power. It's actually quite intimidating trying to hit something that fast and we have to keep in mind that the batter stands in the box while being aware that they may gets hit by a wild pitch. It's not strange at all for a flame thrower to bean a batter and cause severe injury; in fact, it happened just a few days ago, one of the best batter of the Dodgers, Turner was hit on the wrist and is now on the disabled list. Instinctively, a batter would be afraid of a fastball especially if it's thrown by a flame thrower that has horrible control like Furuya has because they don't want to get injured. Until they've practiced and got use to that velocity. Heck, back in the days, hitting a batter or throwing to their head was in fact considered a common "tactic" by flame throwers to intimidate batters, "head hunters" as they were coined was a common term in the past. Let's get into why pitchers love to hurl the ball as fast as possible. It's because human's reaction capabilities has a limit and to a certain extend, most wouldn't be able to keep up with facing a fastball at 160 kph. Hence, in order to just purely win against the batter in terms of raw power, pitchers would want to pitch as fast as possible and hope that the batter can't keep up with that speed. In most case they can't, so that's why it works out for flame throwers. On the other hand, these pitchers get the satisfaction of beating a batter that way because it's the most primitive and simple way of going head to head with the batter and just beat them straight through power. Now you can see why there are flame throwers and why they stick to this kind of pitching style. Let's get into why Furuya's pitching would still be somewhat effective at this level. First and foremost, we have to consider that they're playing at high school level. Although Japan has the 2nd most competitive professional baseball league in the World, what these kids are playing at is high school level. There are talents scattered here and there but the general landscape is even when you see that these kids are very skilled and at times can play like a pro especially on defence, they're still only half-pro. Most can still be considered amateurs when it comes to baseball understanding and skills. Furuya has a definitive weakness that's very obvious to notice if you have been following baseball. If Furuya walks a runner on base, he'll start losing his rhythm. He is not calm and collected under runner's pressure like his facial expression and zeal suggest. His slide step is predictable, he never picks off runner, his throws to bases are often erratic. His pitching becomes severely shaken and he suffers considerably more wasted pitch when this happens because he overstrains his arm/shoulder for higher velocity which may be fine without runner where he can keeps his calm but when there're pressure, it's a totally different ball-game. This is not an effective way to pitch. These reflect appropriately in his results. Once he walks a runner or two, he'll often at least loses 2 runs. If he carries this same kind of weakness to pro-ball, he'll be toasted which I have a very good example to go into below. However, we have to come back to the fact that they're playing at high school level where talents are scarce or still mostly "unrefined". There's a guaranteed strategy to break down Furuya that I have discussed a couple of times in the past (so I won't go too deep into again) but to be fair, these kids may have problem executing that play. Feinting out Furuya is an easier one on paper but kids at this age love to take big swing for stuffs and land big hits. Just as much as guys like Furuya loves to hurl fast, batters love to swing and smack dingers like Masashi too which often prevents them from executing the correct strategy on the field. Teams that have better level of talents overall OR better discipline would usually dominate Koshien but not all team can do that. Regardless, I do agree with you that teams in DNA do often suffer from the "selectively blind syndrome" when it comes to Furuya's countering strategy and facing his fastball. It's just a common manga trope that the rival character will have to be overhyped and has a relatively easier path to success compare to the protagonist. This, we can't do anything about which leads us to our next point. Is high school batters that incompetent? No. Even with all the things I have discussed above, batters aren't that incompetent that they can't hit a fastball down the middle after at least 3 looks at bat against Furuya, regardless how fast it is. At Koshien level, Furuya's pitch is most likely not that effective because of a couple reasons. Even when you say he reach 154 kph, that sounds impressive but can he always reach 154 kph? No, definitely not. He'll maybe reach 153 once or twice and 154 once while most of his pitches will range somewhere between 145 - 148 kph. Shohei Otani reach 160 kph in Koshien only once and even after going pro, he's usually sitting between 152 - 155 kph most of the time. So in short, we should never use Furuya's 154 kph as the standards. Since as you said, schools these days do have pitching machine to practice and when we compare that to Furuya's average velocity (which is <150 kph) that is slower than what the machine can provide, yeah, it's fair to expect these kids to be able to hit Furuya's pitch especially when they are horribly controlled. With that said, the reality is these kind of facilities are often limited to powerhouse schools that has the capital to afford them so not every school are on the same level when it comes to experience with batting fastball over 150 kph. If they do though, they'll be like Inajitsu that could force Furuya into trouble in their 2nd at bat or Ichidaisan that can constantly hit Furuya's fastball and it's only the matter of Furuya walking a runner or two for his situation to get out of control as they'll score relentlessly. There will be teams that can cause trouble to Furuya like Akikawa as well where they just sits in the box and take pitches to increase Furuya's pitch count and that's a Furuya-counter strategy that'll works regardless of the batter's competency since Akikawa was a weak team by all accounts but when we get back to what I've discussed of the "selectively blind syndrome" and favourable plot treatments, it's easy to see why such kind of strategy has since been "purposefully" forgotten in time. With that said we don't have to hold that standard to Yamamori as well because as we have seen Yamamori doesn't seem to be a school that has good offense. To be honest, Yamamori being in Senbatsu doesn't really indicate they're a National-class team either because we have to keep in mind that even Yakushi made the top 4 of Senbatsu despite being one of the lucky loser. Only the best of the best can compete in Summer Koshien as weaker teams are weeded out and only the winner of the Prefectural Qualifiers would go on to play later. It wouldn't be surprise to not see a team like Yamamori and Yakushi there. Instead of looking at their "brand name" as powerhouse and such, we have to look at the content of their play and assess whether they really worth that powerhouse name or not. Like Ichidaisan is certainly a powerhouse on National level yet they're in the same district with Inajitsu and Seidou and would often lose to them but their level of play certainly deserves that title. Yamamori is less so; however, we do have to give credits where it's due, Yamamori has very solid defense and that seems to be their stronger side and also taking into consideration that Furuya may be doing better than before (especially when Terajima has decided to buff Furuya's breaking pitch effectiveness) so yeah this kind of score is believable. So I've been talking about how Furuya would be considered as a big fish in Japan and especially the Japanese high school scene but not so on the World Level. We've mentioned for quite some time that Shohei Ohtani is basically a real life Furuya on steroids. He pitches faster than anyone in Japan and has won the HR king title once. In a sense when you look at Furuya and what he's capable of with his fastball, he'll be able to dominate to a certain level at high school level in Japan. However, when you wonder is that really "that good", the answer is simply NO. The video above show Ohtani pitching in the MLB after making the transfer from the NPB (Japanese baseball league) and he was absolutely wrecked. In fact his pitching stat in the Spring Training games these past couple of weeks aren't better either. Batters in the States just eat up Ohtani's fastball (which was considered invincible in Japan) and they aren't getting struck out easily without a fight. So when you wonder "is this kind of pitching really that effective, why can't Furuya get wrecked already?", the answer would be yes, he'll get wrecked big time if he compete on an International stage like in the MLB where the level of talent overall is just better but this is high school level of Japan we're reading about here so it's sort of like a Big fish in a small pond situation just like with Ohtani. They'll do relatively well domestically and on a lower level like high school but don't expect that to be MLB's level and say Furuya will be this or that kind of pitcher in the future. He severely lacks variety and stamina that even Ohtani has and mechanically he's terrible in terms of pitching form/delivery. Like he still has this inverted W even after coming back from the injury Ochiai said he'll fix This was before he got injured  And this is him pitching after coming back from injury  The problem that gave him the injury is still there. So when we want to suggest Furuya will become this and that kind of pitcher and whatnot, we better have to wait until he gets all the basics down first like Sawamura has before making those claims. In short yes, Furuya IS and CAN BE effective on high school level but only to a certain extend. He's not Koshien starting pitcher material or is he Japan No. 1 pitcher material since he lacks both the stamina and variety that even Ohtani had. He is however good enough to give teams that lack the offensive capabilities like Yamamori trouble and we don't have to freak out about that too much. To be fair, we have to consider the broader context and expect him to be able to do this much otherwise, he wouldn't be able to help Sawamura much in Summer and that's bad for Seidou. |
GDVApr 12, 2018 9:23 AM
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Euclide3 said: is that kataoka will let play the substitute against seiho where he will keep the same team that played against yamamori We can expect to see some starting player substitution for the upcoming game with Seihou. Permanent starting players like Zono, Haruichi, Mochi, Shirasu, Toujou is still going to play agian but other players that aren't as solid can be shuffled like Kanemaru, Masashi, Yui. They'll probably be replaced by Higasa (or Takatsu), Asou and Okumura respectively. Also no, Furuya will not continue to pitch past the 6th inning. Kataoka said he planned for Furuya to pitch only 100 pitch "for today" so he's done for this match and the rest of the day after 100 pitch. If he struggles to get the last 2 outs, he may even get subbed before he could close out the inning. Kaneda is already warming up in the bullpen, if Kataoka wants, he can even order Kawashima to get ready or call in Toujou for a 4-pitchers relay. Although from his conversation, we can expect Kataoka to sub out Furuya but with Ochiai looking mysterious, we don't know whether he'll be the one to ask Kataoka to keep Furuya in the game |
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Zer0Pilot said: Euclide3 said: I think that ochiai will convince kataoka to let furuya throw dunno, ochai look didn't seems very convinced by furuya This ^ he probably thinks Furuya hasn’t made the changes he hoped for. |
Which if he's taking note, it's the Inverted W |
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