| There are many similarities between the 2 Kurosaki and the remaining Shiba and i feel its a real possibility that they could be related |
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| Wouldn't surprise me, Kaien Shiba(spelling?) is basically Ichi with black hair. Actually you're right the other Clan members Kukaku? and the big guy were also pretty close on attitude and appearance. It was obvious that he looked like Kaien but i'd never actually thought there could be a relation. Would be interesting for Kubo to go into that, saying that i can't see it myself. |
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| it makes sense too its possible that the actions of isshin lead to the Shiba clans' fall from nobility,which could also explain how isshin lost his powers as a soul reaper |
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| Thats an interesting theory..I actually would like that if that were the case. I still want to know why Isshin lost his powers to begin with, I hope today's chapter has more insight! |
wintercrush said: Thats an interesting theory..I actually would like that if that were the case. I still want to know why Isshin lost his powers to begin with, I hope today's chapter has more insight! Considering Isshin knew about the "final Getsuga", perhaps he did something similar once and lost his powers. Then again, I don't think Kubo thinks that far ahead :P |
SteveKeys said: wintercrush said: Thats an interesting theory..I actually would like that if that were the case. I still want to know why Isshin lost his powers to begin with, I hope today's chapter has more insight! Considering Isshin knew about the "final Getsuga", perhaps he did something similar once and lost his powers. Then again, I don't think Kubo thinks that far ahead :P If you think about it though everyone in the soul society remarks how he looks similar to someone else, granted theyre probably taking about kaien, its not too far of a stretch to think that kurosaki is a name that isshin came up with when he was in the human world, and another possibility is that because he married a human outside the shiba blood line that lead to their fall from nobility |
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darker_thn_blk said: SteveKeys said: wintercrush said: Thats an interesting theory..I actually would like that if that were the case. I still want to know why Isshin lost his powers to begin with, I hope today's chapter has more insight! Considering Isshin knew about the "final Getsuga", perhaps he did something similar once and lost his powers. Then again, I don't think Kubo thinks that far ahead :P If you think about it though everyone in the soul society remarks how he looks similar to someone else, granted theyre probably taking about kaien, its not too far of a stretch to think that kurosaki is a name that isshin came up with when he was in the human world, and another possibility is that because he married a human outside the shiba blood line that lead to their fall from nobility Especially how rukia got noteably close to him because of his similarity to Kaien in many ways. You know Kaien's explanation of the heart? How the heart is outside our bodies, and is created between two people.. it sounded like something ichigo would say. |
| At this point, anything's possible. |
| And Ichigo and Kaien both look like Hisagi. It's not family, it's the mangaka being lazy with character designs :P |
Jesuvius said: And Ichigo and Kaien both look like Hisagi. It's not family, it's the mangaka being lazy with character designs :P Yeah I was thinking that, but the whole Kaien / Ichigo look was supposed to be similar for sorta plot purposes? The rest are just character templates. Like Ramen / Ganju / Aizen, etc. |
| What about Ichigo is a reincarnation of Kaien...in the Rukia rescue part she told Hanataro(?) that although she had only known him for 2 months she could trust him with anything....Just throwing something else out there. |
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KeiranShikari said: What about Ichigo is a reincarnation of Kaien...in the Rukia rescue part she told Hanataro(?) that although she had only known him for 2 months she could trust him with anything....Just throwing something else out there. I'm not sure, but not only Rukia noticed his similarity, but Ukitake pointed it out the first time he saw ichigo in the SS arc. |
wintercrush said: KeiranShikari said: What about Ichigo is a reincarnation of Kaien...in the Rukia rescue part she told Hanataro(?) that although she had only known him for 2 months she could trust him with anything....Just throwing something else out there. I'm not sure, but not only Rukia noticed his similarity, but Ukitake pointed it out the first time he saw ichigo in the SS arc. and Byakuya too, when he first appeared in the human world to take back Rukia |
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darker_thn_blk said: ...its not too far of a stretch to think that kurosaki is a name that isshin came up with when he was in the human world, and another possibility is that because he married a human outside the shiba blood line that lead to their fall from nobility I like that idea; for the loss of nobility. Also, in Japan, it's not uncommon that the man take the wife's family name as his. Especially if she is the last daughter in the family - this helps keep the lineage alive. So, Kurosaki Masaki might have been her name even before marriage. ^^; |
| Its a very likely thing. Theoretilcaly Shiba is a remaining part of that noble family, so more than likely the main line is that of ichigo. Both Isshin and Ichigo share same sword and named technique, then there's a case of Ichigo's blue eye glow, affinity in shinigami arts and overall strong spiritual power. I am thinking that Isshin was from that noble family and Masaki was a fullbringer(which would explain her death. If she did not have the object she has the most connection with, with her, she would be quite defenseless). There's also possibility that Ichigo's memories are tampered in some ways (there are certain gaps in his memory ). Anyway, Isshin side of the family is very fishy and I have no doubts that Ukitake knows more than he is saying. After all it was he who gave Ichigo the badge, about which or its purpose NO ONE else in soul society even knew. And THAT was after Ukitake's remark about Ichigo's reiatsu feeling familiar. The only one's right now to reveal anything about his father side might be only Urahara(who is very untrustworthy and possibly "the dragon" of the final boss), , Ukitake and Isshin(who is currently missing and I woul dnot be surprised if discussing something with Ukitake). Till one of them or someone in the xcution group speaks, Ichigo's family secrets will remain secrets. In a sense, if My theory is correct and Aizen is in fact related to Isshin side of the family(due to -getsu sword and being able to know Ichigo from his birth time and his weird exchanges with Isshin), then it only makes sense that next to approach him are someone close to his mother side. I sort of feel like we are getting little details, little bits of the "universe", till kubo presents the lynchpin and everything goes clear. We still do not have aizen backstory, isshin backstory, anyhone from ichigo's family or from where his family is and so on. Then we have the comments about ichigo from ukitake and others, aizens unnatural interet in him, three getsu swords and so on. It feels like the bits of info about his family are left out intentionally, like a puzzle pieces, that will latter be connected by some sort of huge revelation. |
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| I'll answer this question. Ichigo belongs to nothing, for he doesn't exist. Aizen is using his suigetsu to create Ichigo, so that he can use ichigo as a diversion while he snatch up all of the little boys found throughout the Seritei because Gin is too old. Jks But in all truths, couldn't Ichi be the reincarnation of Kaien? If not, probably Kaien is Isshin's or Misako's father, and is Ichigo's grandfather (just blabbering). This actually can hold truth though, but is unlikely. I doubt Ichigo is related to the Shiba Clan reasons being that Tite is notorious for recycling character's faces, hence Ichi's, and Kaien resemblance; and not thinking far enough to establish a well-done plot. To be honest, I believe that Isshin has nt connection to the Shiba's, but rather Ichi's mom. If Isshin was part of the Shiba clan, wouldn't anyone, besides Ukitake, notice him, especially Rukia? I think he noticed Rukia after she stated her last name was Kuchiki. I doubt Isshin would change his last name, because the others didn't. Fai said: I am thinking that Isshin was from that noble family and Masaki was a fullbringer(which would explain her death. If she did not have the object she has the most connection with, with her, she would be quite defenseless). There's also possibility that Ichigo's memories are tampered in some ways (there are certain gaps in his memory ). have to agree with this post..Ichigo's mother seems too fishy....... |
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Avalie said: Not likely. And I say this because I wish it wouldn't be the case. This hypothesis has been brought up years ago, if it were that easy then Kubo just proves time and again he's a bad and predictable story teller. just because you don't like the concept does not mean that it is not within the realm of possibility |
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Avalie said: darker_thn_blk said: Avalie said: Not likely. And I say this because I wish it wouldn't be the case. This hypothesis has been brought up years ago, if it were that easy then Kubo just proves time and again he's a bad and predictable story teller. just because you don't like the concept does not mean that it is not within the realm of possibility I bet you Kubo himself hasn't even THOUGHT about it yet. He has the habit of linking things ridiculously at the last minute. You can be sure he will pull some fodder out of his hat to solve THIS question, and then bring you FIVE more questions so you can puzzle over them. Well not everyone can pull off a George Lucas |
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| Whoa 3yr old thread revived lol. |
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