| Contains Spoilers - Obviously~ I know not everyone agrees with the Sadist approach for the ending. I totally do not agree with it, and the fact that it doesn't make sense at all. First, Shu is the only one who can harness peoples pain and void, Inori cannot. So how the F*CK was she even able to sacrifice herself and take all the cancer and voids with her? I know that we as the watchers/audience cannot change the fact that this has happened. But we can discuss what could've happened. I say that it was stupid the ending, Shu had the choice of sacrificing Inori with him, he could've let he be as he would've sucked the cancer out of her, still why was she being covered with the crystals if she doesn't share Shu's void? And again, how the hell could she take all the void and cancers with her to die and let Shu live? He is the king with the ability to actually take and harness other peoples voids and pain. So if in the end, he took Inori's blindness, wouldn't that mean he's filled of diseases e.g. HIV and STDs because he did suck the damn blindness out of Inori and cancers from other people from all round the world. But getting to the main point. They SHOULD'VE both died as Saviors. That would've put me to rest properly and many other people too, but the damn sadist of 'Kanagi' decided to let Shu live, embracing sounds and memories of his loved one. Hah. Shu should've died with Inori, or committed suicide withing "A few years later" period. |
GuiltyKing said: On top of that Shu had *two* void genomes at that time which should do at least something, right? If they're already pulling an end out of their ass why not make it the happy one? One that people could accept and sympathize with? But no, it's way more dramatic if everyone precious to Shu (fuck those friends; they can go die as far as I'm concerned) dies and he ends up being all "happy" sitting on that fucking bench listening to the voice of his love of the life. Only talking about it saddens me so freakin' much. What a fucked up and god damn ending. Totally agreed, seriously, lately, endings have been all over the place with no good conclusion. I like endings that show what happens after the conclusion like GC, but that was just Bullhorse. And like you said, two venom genomes. Apparently, he would've died on the second he took, but now he has two; shouldn't he be screaming or aking like the first two times he did it. But still, that doesn't affect how the ending concluded. I didn't like Shu too much as he was a bit of a wimp, but because of that I liked him, weird right? But now I just feel damn sorry for the guy. |
| I agree with the fact Shu should of atleast died with Inori I've been seeing this ending twice and I finally understood it. WTF this ending should of been better. Why couldn't Inori and Shu die together loved by one another just Like Gai and Mana. They could of been saviors!! yes screw the friends that betrayed him. Sheesh I would of stayed with the one I loved. Plus the fact of being blind why?he lost both girls both Hare and Inori. ugh I expected more to this show!!I expected a kick-ass ending everyone would like who is a fan Guilty Crown but obviously it failed this episode I give a 9. 10 if they died saviors. |
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| I also don't agree with this ending and actually I think Shu should've died with Inori! It's so sad that A FEW YEARS LATER he is blind and the only thing he has is Inori's voice and memories of her. Awful! How could they end GC like that! It's not a end that I was hoping for. I should be EPIC not NOSTALGIC. Well... I guess it doesn't change the fact that I still think of GC like one of my favourite anime. But still... don't get it. Also what's with Daryl? I really liked him! Why they did not show what happened to him. And this blindness... I won't say a word about it... |
RosyXkid said: I agree with the fact Shu should of atleast died with Inori I've been seeing this ending twice and I finally understood it. WTF this ending should of been better. Why couldn't Inori and Shu die together loved by one another just Like Gai and Mana. They could of been saviors!! yes screw the friends that betrayed him. Sheesh I would of stayed with the one I loved. Plus the fact of being blind why?he lost both girls both Hare and Inori. ugh I expected more to this show!!I expected a kick-ass ending everyone would like who is a fan Guilty Crown but obviously it failed this episode I give a 9. 10 if they died saviors. Totally, totally agree! |
| WTF people! A sadistic ending is perfect for this anime if you have been following the plot line so far. Furthermore, death is not enough punishment for all that Shu did to other people throughout the series. His blindness is because he must suffer for his sins as King. Also it looked very sweet the way he was happy in spite of being handy-capped and blind + the way he imagines that Inori is still with him while listening to her song – this shows that their bond is beyond space and time. On top of that the tragic element of him still celebrating Hare's birthday, if that doesn't arouse feelings of sympathy towards him and happiness that he is still looking forward to the future despite all that happened, you must be heartless monsters. Aside from that the scene with Dayrl being saved in the elevator was awesome as well ); At least stop with the hate now that the series has finished |
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uzee said: WTF people! A sadistic ending is perfect for this anime if you have been following the plot line so far. Furthermore, death is not enough punishment for all that Shu did to other people throughout the series. His blindness is because he must suffer for his sins as King. Also it looked very sweet the way he was happy in spite of being handy-capped and blind + the way he imagines that Inori is still with him while listening to her song – this shows that their bond is beyond space and time. On top of that the tragic element of him still celebrating Hare's birthday, if that doesn't arouse feelings of sympathy towards him and happiness that he is still looking forward to the future despite all that happened, you must be heartless monsters. Aside from that the scene with Dayrl being saved in the elevator was awesome as well ); At least stop with the hate now that the series has finished Was that a cake for Hare? The writing wasn't clear enough to read. We're not really hating, just putting across ideas of our own and how the ending sucked - which is like hating, but please understand. I kind of agree that he should suffer the consequences of being the 'king', but I do not think it was Inori's intention to let the one she loved suffer, am I wrong? |
| I actually liked the ending and probably am the only one, but it could have been played out a bit better. I'm glad Shu lived since he is my favorite character, but its sad he has to live like that the rest of his life blind and without the one he loves that is the sin of the King you live a life of loneliness and solitude and bear the weight of your actions on your shoulders. The crown known as Guiltiness. (ok that was just me rambling my thoughts aloud pay no mind if it does not make sense xD) Anyways bittersweet ending for him. T_T |
RolokoMar 23, 2012 4:23 PM
"What has two arms, two legs, and is alive? Not your favorite character lol! xD" |
ZGMF-BERSERKER said: we dont hate it cause it was sad, we hate it because its getting sad for no reason, it was a total asspull they made last minute to try and tug at your heartstrings but fails miserblyi get what you guys are saying but some of you guys hate it just cuz its a sad ending and shu didnt end up with inori. code geass ending was much sadder, but its still praised. i know this isnt the perfect ending, but don't hate it just cuz it was "sad". on a side note, the final battle between shu and gai.... wtf = |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Alternative endings? Either let both live or let both die. I think the fact that Shu remained goes against this whole idea (with the theme song and their dialogue) about being by each other's side no matter what. Sure, Shu gets to reminisce by himself. As if the entire series hasn't screwed him over entirely already... |
Jerichow said: However, not even three minutes later, she has a complete fucking 180 and pushes him out of the crystal by having him take the string.... WTF!? So now she wants him to be alone? Damn it what the hell... Most of my heart-ache came from that shock of, "Wait... what the hell just happened? Why is Shu coming out of the crystal... wait... wait no, this is wrong..." Totally agreed. She was like "Stay by my side... I'm on your side" Im sure that not even 1 minute later, taking account that they were showing different scenes in the same timing, she leaves him. WTF?! |
| logic.... this show has none I pity you guys for trying so hard to make sense out of this cluster fuck. I commend your effort though. stay safe.. |
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Jerichow said: DJIzzyIzzyHitler said: we dont hate it cause it was sad, we hate it because its getting sad for no reason, it was a total asspull they made last minute to try and tug at your heartstrings but fails miserbly ^ This The 'sad' ending is fine, so long as it wasn't just an out-of-fucking-nowhere sad; at 17 mins in when Inori is walking forward, she asks Shu to stay with her, and he complies. I was okay with this, in fact, despite being sad, I liked it. However, not even three minutes later, she has a complete fucking 180 and pushes him out of the crystal by having him take the string.... WTF!? So now she wants him to be alone? Damn it what the hell... Most of my heart-ache came from that shock of, "Wait... what the hell just happened? Why is Shu coming out of the crystal... wait... wait no, this is wrong..." The epilogue only made it worse by making it seem like Shu was happy and at peace, despite losing the only girl that truly loved him that he loved in return. The ending was sad, yes, and we were okay with that, but this was an over-the-top kind of sad that was just put there to rip at your heart. In short, the ending isn't terrible because it was sad, it's terrible because it was executed poorly and in my opinion, was 'too' sad that the bit of 'sweet' in the bitter just didn't make up for, offsetting the quality of the ending and ruining it as a whole. Shu and Inori dying, and then the epilogue plays through with the others celebrating Hare's birthday and remembering her, Shu, and Inori would have been spot on perfect, but they decided to screw it all up by having Shu live the way he did. Agree with every word. Holy fucking shit, why did they decide to make Shu live? It makes no sense. That's stupid as hell, even for GC standards. Ugh. Damn this show. The ending made me regret even watching this show, I hate that I allowed this show to annoy me even in the slightest way. I'm not losing sleep over this or anything but yeah. |
| The ending was pretty depressing, I have to admit. :( I wish they'd make another season or OVA about Tsugumi's backstory - the fact that she said she grew up all alone got me kind of curious as to what her life was like and under what circumstances she lived in and why she was alone (etc etc.) Also, I don't think the fact that Shu has two Void Genomes is TOO outrageous - I mean, he as a fetus has been bathing inside the exact same virus (in his mother's womb) that the Void Genome is made from. I guess he's just immune. |
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| It's nothing like HATING guys. I am not a hater. I LOVED this anime actually but the ending has no sense. Maybe it was too early to end everytning? They made this ending.. like by force, ugh. It hurts. |
NinjaoftheFog said: Lontaku said: Jerichow said: Totally agreed. She was like "Stay by my side... I'm on your side" Im sure that not even 1 minute later, taking account that they were showing different scenes in the same timing, she leaves him. WTF?!However, not even three minutes later, she has a complete fucking 180 and pushes him out of the crystal by having him take the string.... WTF!? So now she wants him to be alone? Damn it what the hell... Most of my heart-ache came from that shock of, "Wait... what the hell just happened? Why is Shu coming out of the crystal... wait... wait no, this is wrong..." I think she said all that so she could get in a situation where she could sacrifice herself so Shu could live. I think she wanted him to live and move on. Maybe she thought she could save him from the blindness by sacrificing herself. I agree with the idea of the series ending is "living on, no matter what hardships happen." Maybe this is supposed to reflect the high suicide rates in Japan after the earthquake. I don't know when they decided on the ending, but it's a possibility. Perhaps, but really, I believe the audience isn't targeted at those suffering in Japan, but at us Anime watchers. And, Inori couldn't have healed Shu because it wasn't his blindness, it was hers. |
| I agree that it would have been if Shu had died with Inori. It would have made sense. It would have been better. In 'Xam'd', the hero turned to stone in the last episode, only to awaken at the very end and be reunitited with his love. We could have had something similar to this with Shu. He turns into, becomes trapped in, a block of crystal. Only to be found in the rubble of Ward 24. Haruka, or perhaps Ayase, sees Shu in the Crystal, calls to him, pounding on the crystal, only for the crystal to crack and then shatter, freeing Shu. Shu wakes up, surrounded by his friends and loved ones. Still, Shu's blindness doesn't make sense. It's just one more burden, one more bit of suffering that's been heaped upon Shu. Needlessly. |
| Summoning Dark: "What kind of human creates his own policeman?" Watcman: "One who fears the dark." "And so he should," said the enity, with satisfaction. "Indeed. But I think you misunderstand. I am not here to keep the darkness out. I'm here to keep it in." There was a clink of metal as the shadowy watchman lifted a dark lantern and opened it's little door. Orange light cut through the blackness. "Call me . . . the Guarding Dark. Imagine how strong I must be." |
Lontaku said: Contains Spoilers - Obviously~ I know not everyone agrees with the Sadist approach for the ending. I totally do not agree with it, and the fact that it doesn't make sense at all. First, Shu is the only one who can harness peoples pain and void, Inori cannot. So how the F*CK was she even able to sacrifice herself and take all the cancer and voids with her? I know that we as the watchers/audience cannot change the fact that this has happened. But we can discuss what could've happened. I say that it was stupid the ending, Shu had the choice of sacrificing Inori with him, he could've let he be as he would've sucked the cancer out of her, still why was she being covered with the crystals if she doesn't share Shu's void? And again, how the hell could she take all the void and cancers with her to die and let Shu live? He is the king with the ability to actually take and harness other peoples voids and pain. So if in the end, he took Inori's blindness, wouldn't that mean he's filled of diseases e.g. HIV and STDs because he did suck the damn blindness out of Inori and cancers from other people from all round the world. But getting to the main point. They SHOULD'VE both died as Saviors. That would've put me to rest properly and many other people too, but the damn sadist of 'Kanagi' decided to let Shu live, embracing sounds and memories of his loved one. Hah. Shu should've died with Inori, or committed suicide withing "A few years later" period. DIS!!! |
| "Love and peace, love and peace, love and peeeeeeaaaaaace! " - Vash the Stampede |
| they could've done better than this |
| "Love and peace, love and peace, love and peeeeeeaaaaaace! " - Vash the Stampede |
| Hi guys, I'm not really experienced in anime compared to you all. But, I want to propose an alternative interpretation of Guilty Crown's ending. It's late I know, since it has been around 7 months ago but I'm new in this "anime world" and I've just finished Guilty Crown yesterday. So, here you go. The point is: Inori is still alive and she has become one with Shu. It sounds ridiculous, but here's some explanation. First, I want to start when Inori's memory is getting erased (when Mana overtook Inori's body). Before covered in crystals, Gai told Inori that her memory and emotion "that constitute you (Inori) as human" will be erased. Then, Inori's body started to get covered by crystal. Right before the crystal covered her face, Inori dropped tears and voila, her tears become a rainbow colored crystal flower. All I could say is, Inori's existence is now represented in that crystal flower, all of her memory and heart (emotion) has been materialized as the crystal. This materialization concept of memory and heart is not that weird in this anime as the next evolution step of humanity will be those materialized memories in crystal; the Void itself is a materialization of heart. Because that rainbow crystal flower represented Inori's heart, Shu could draw Inori's Void from it. We could say that the flower is Inori. Okay, then Shu beated Gai and I assume Mana was dead. Shu then get some vision about what would the new world (after Apocalypse) be and Gai told Shu about his motives. Finally, Shu got back in real world. Suddenly, Inori's there again, blinded and covered in crystals. How could Inori be back alive? Wasn't she dead (her memory was erased)? Mm.. you see, Shu wasn't holding Inori's Void when she showed up. Where did the Void go? I could safely say that it's back to Inori's body. Mana's conciousness was disappeared and Inori's Void could go back. So, how could Inori remember Shu? Do you remember what Void is? Void is the materialization of someone's heart and in that final battle, Shu got Inori's void from the rainbow flower. It means that Inori's memory, emotion, or heart haven't been erased completely; it was all stored in that rainbow flower. Inori's heart was drawed as a Void by Shu and then the Void went back to Inori's body. So that's why she got her memory back and become a "human" once again. Here's some simple explanation: Inori's heart, memory, emotion => tears => rainbow flower => Inori's Void (drawed by Shu to battle Gai) => back to Inori's body (after Mana lost control) => Inori was alive again, as real Inori. It has been long, but we haven't finished yet. With two Void Genomes in his body (I don't know why it's seems no side effect on Shu's body), Shu absorbed all void and crystal from all over the world while holding dying Inori. Shu said that he could feel people's hearts. He then lost his conciousness and saw Inori. And, THIS IS IMPORTANT, Inori asked Shu to take the RED STRING, Shu took it and Inori's disappeared. All crystals were destroyed and Shu wasn't dead. This is my interpretation, that RED STRING is Inori's life. It's not only her life force, but especially her heart. You could see a resemblance of that RED STRING with those strings which is looked like DNA circled around someone. Those RED STRING represents a person life, like Jun's and Segai's strings (which is cutted by Shu with Yahiro's Void). When Shu accepted the RED STRING, he accepted Inori's life. How could Inori's life be transferred to Shu? We could say that Shu's Void and the crystal helped it to be happened. Covered in crystals, their lifes were like merged. How could the crystal disappear? Somehow those crystals are disappeared along with Inori's body. Inori's body is actually Eve's (Mana's) body. Mana's body was the first one to get infected by the virus, so I could say that the body was used to clear all the crystal. Remember that Inori gave her blood to Gai so Gai could survive from the virus? I think all the crystals are vanished along with Inori's (Mana's) body. We could say that Inori's (Mana's) body is sacrificed to clear the world from the Apocalypse. All things began from that body, didn't it? So, am I trying to say that even without her body, Inori's alive? Yes. Inori's acceptance of her fake body is important in this case. From the beginning, the body was never Inori's body. It's Mana's body, her vessel. Even though everything's fake, Inori could accept that Inori is Inori, that fake body doesn't matter. Inori's whole existence wasn't stored in her body, it's in her heart. And Inori's heart had been given to Shu (the Red String). So SHU HAS BECOME ONE WITH INORI'S WHOLE EXISTENCE. Body in this anime is not really important, as we could see that the next evolution step of humanity is become some materialized memory and heart, the crystals. That explained why Shu didn't become crazy or killed himself in the "after a few years". Shu didn't show any trace of sadness. Why? Because Shu could feel Inori's whole existence in him. Remember when Shu absorbed all crystal in world and said that he could feel people's heart? Shu felt Inori's heart in him too, thus her whole existence was in Shu. They have become one, together forever, and unseparable. HAPPY ENDING. Well that's my interpretation after some discussions with my friends. I don't know, maybe it's cheesy or something, but yeah, seeing the ending with this interpretation relieved me a bit and I become not really depressed with the ending. The ending was disappointing to me at first (I agreed if Inori AND Shu died). But then, this thought came in and I hope it would give you guys another point of view. P.S.: About Shu's blindness. It's confusing me for a lot of time and I said it was a major plothole in the ending. But, when my friend watched it again, he realized that Shu has been blind after his vision of the new world after Apocalypse. When Shu went back to the real world, there was Inori but Shu's eyes weren't reacted. If Shu saw Inori was alive, Shu would run to her and hug her but he was just standing still. When we watched it carefully, Shu's eyes didn't move even when Inori clashed to him. Even when Inori asked where Shu were, Shu's hand has to search Inori's hand a bit (just watch at it again). In first I doubted it, but yeah, there is no evidence too that Shu was not blind at that point. So I choose to believe that Shu is blind because of his vision of the new world. Inori was blind because she was become a full crystal (that rainbow flower crystal). So, when you are back from "the new (crystal) world" and live as a normal human again, there is some kind of side effect, that's blindness. That blindness could be a symbol too in the end, that body (physical appearance) is not important again for Shu. Shu doesn't need to see Inori's physical appearance again to accept her existence because she is in Shu. |
Waiting for next week anime gives me another reason to live. |
| They could just give us happy ending with bout Shu and Inori alive in the end... |
The real world is past the virtual world is future. |
| I think the easier way to end it would've been if Inori and Shu lived they could've shared the damage both lose sight in one eye etc |
dmcmahon806Apr 5, 2013 12:03 PM
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| I prefer Shuu to die than being left behind my the person he loves the most.. I don't like his state now: Being left behind by Inori, loss his arm and power, and then become blind. It's true he has friends, but.. I don't really think them as Shuu's friend (except for Ayase and Tsugumi). Well, they are his friends but they aren't in his side. The only one who's really in Shuu's side was Inori. And.. Even if Shuu is with them, they won't be able to heal Shuu's pain after all.. Because they just couldn't understandl it.. Shuu's feeling.. In the end, he just become lonely.. |
kyriu said: Chill out men.. me too want to do a table flip every time i watched eps 24.. First i'm totally disagree with the ending but when you think again the endng it's not bad, did the ending ruin all of the masterpiece of guilty crown? because this anime is not a child dream story, it pick up some reality, for those people who just happy with happy ending and doesn't have enough mental will probably down the rating..... But not for me i look on process not the ending(ending = adding spice) and it have unexpected plot and new kind of mess plot.. lol.. I'm enjoyed it.. ._. Brace your mental bro, i not agree with the ending too, but well it's already happen what we gonna do? just hope the second season then.. ._. You changed the way I thought about the ending! |
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