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Jan 27, 2008 11:59 PM
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I think WhiteBeard is gonna go after BlackBeard and will end up losing and feeling stupid for doubting BlackBeard's ability.
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Yeah, i seriously doubt that. Whitebeard will probably have someone else in his massive army of pirate crew go for Blackbeard
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Nah Ace was almost Whitebeards second in command, so i seriously doubt that he has allot of people as strong as or stronger then Ace. So if someone of the Whitebeard pirates has to do it its Whitebeard himself... And he has his hands full on Shanks at the moment.
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Nah Ace was almost Whitebeards second in command, so i seriously doubt that he has allot of people as strong as or stronger then Ace. So if someone of the Whitebeard pirates has to do it its Whitebeard himself... And he has his hands full on Shanks at the moment.


Ace is the captain of the second division, not WhiteBeard's right hand man. AFAIK, the WB pirate crew has 4 divisions. IMO, the other 3 captains are all monsters like Ace. A

as for WhiteBeard himself, you're right, there's the matter with Shanks and there's the status of his health.
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Yeah well i said almost ;) But yeah i see it like this; Whitebeard is first in command. Hes directly above the 4 division commanders and so on. So ace would be on of Whitebeard's 4 right hand man's. So if there's someone needed who's above ace in rank it would have to be Whitebeard himself or someone who is outside the ranks.

Because Ace got caught it would be unlogical to send another one of about the same level as his to fight Blackbeard. Whitebeard has to go all out now..

Its the same logic as the shichibukai now use. Don't attack the Strawhats(Or any group with that strength). Because you could get defeated. Blackbeard could attack Ace tough since he wasn't one by then and Ace was alone. Besides Ace has a lower bounty then Luffy(since Luffy was the highest bounty from East Blue,and Ace's from there too)

But yeah anyways still think Whitebeards crew is going to be defeated by Shanks so i don't know if he could do anything for Ace....
Feb 1, 2008 9:51 PM

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For some reason, Whitebeard doesn't strike me as the type of guy who would go to great lengths just to save one of his nakama, even though he considers all of them his sons (or something of the sort as I forgot the exact term he used). And as you guys already pointed out, Whitebeard is also a bit preoccupied with other things to drop everything and go get Ace.

Also, Luffy and co. don't know that Ace is at Impel Down, so we can take that scenario out of the question. I know somebody mentioned it earlier, but if Impel Down is at the bottom of the sea and the Strawhats do end up going to Fishmen Island next, there could be a very good possibility that the two may coincide somehow.

I'm hoping Oda will next unveil to us more information about the other two Yonkou. We don't know much about them yet.
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I don't think that they're going to rescue Ace, though. We already had one rescue arc (Eneis Lobby, Robin's rescue), and Oda usually doesn't recycle his plots... unlike the some other shounen series (*cough* bleach *cough* >_>'). I might be wrong though, but I really don't care either way. Both "Merman Island Arc" and "Impel Down Arc" sound awesome to me. XD

vindemon64 said:
I'm hoping Oda will next unveil to us more information about the other two Yonkou. We don't know much about them yet.

*Nods*
Btw, are Whitebeard and Shanks still at the same place they met? Or are they done discussing already?

Anyway, about the most recent chp... it was so touching ;__; Brook's past is so sad! He had such nice crew and captain and he lost them all. No doubt that Brook is joining the SHs though, now after his past was shown...
I wonder if we will ever get to see Brook and Laboon reunite again before One Piece ends?


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vindemon64 said:
Also, Luffy and co. don't know that Ace is at Impel Down, so we can take that scenario out of the question.


And what makes you think they don't read the newspaper like Moria's goons did? It wouldn't be the first time. ;)

Also, Brook's flashback should officially confirm he'll join the crew. They all had flashbacks sooner or later. Yay ^^
Feb 2, 2008 8:02 AM

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And what makes you think they don't read the newspaper like Moria's goons did? It wouldn't be the first time. ;)


True. But they've been at Thriller Bark the whole time still and we haven't seen them read a newspaper as of yet. I'm sure that would be something Oda would have shown us.


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Also, Brook's flashback should officially confirm he'll join the crew. They all had flashbacks sooner or later. Yay ^^


That's what I'm hoping. But let's not forget how Vivi's past was practically shown second by second and she ended up staying. Though her and Brook's situations are completely (180 degrees) different, so I guess it doesn't apply.
Feb 2, 2008 2:32 PM

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Will be weird to have another swordsman join the crew, how would Brooke and Zoro determine who gets which sword :P
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Btw, are Whitebeard and Shanks still at the same place they met? Or are they done discussing already?
Well they drew their swords already so i guess they are done discussing and started fighting about the top position.(Guess ace is "conveniently" in prison because of that too)

But yeah poor Brook... Guess he'll join since Luffy's going to meet up with Laboon too after hes been to the end of the Grand Line. And he seems to be a good addition.
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vindemon64 said:
Spade said:

And what makes you think they don't read the newspaper like Moria's goons did? It wouldn't be the first time. ;)


True. But they've been at Thriller Bark the whole time still and we haven't seen them read a newspaper as of yet. I'm sure that would be something Oda would have shown us


"The whole time" can't be more than 1 or 2 days. Didn't they get the newspaper per seagull-mail-whatever? I believe Nami got the newspaper that way before arriving at Drum but my memory might be wrong but it shouldn't be too hard for Oda to give them a newspaper out of nowhere. ;)
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Spade said:
vindemon64 said:
Spade said:

And what makes you think they don't read the newspaper like Moria's goons did? It wouldn't be the first time. ;)


True. But they've been at Thriller Bark the whole time still and we haven't seen them read a newspaper as of yet. I'm sure that would be something Oda would have shown us


"The whole time" can't be more than 1 or 2 days. Didn't they get the newspaper per seagull-mail-whatever? I believe Nami got the newspaper that way before arriving at Drum but my memory might be wrong but it shouldn't be too hard for Oda to give them a newspaper out of nowhere. ;)
Yeah they bring the newspaper with a bird..But i guess its not a daily newspaper, just one that shows up whenever something interesting happens.
Feb 7, 2008 8:45 PM

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anyways, since I assume they won't rescue ace because that would be similar to enies lobby arc...i wonder how the straw hats will play a part on ace's imprisonment..
Feb 10, 2008 1:37 AM

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maybe before we know it , ace is already being rescused x: .
maybe at the merman island , and many other arc's later on , luffy will just continue defeating those shichibukais ;/ .
but his gear second and third thing is draining his life away :/ .

when you guys always wanna talk about the ending , its a long way?because i think ive heard somewhere that there will be a minimum of 700 episodes..
Feb 10, 2008 1:01 PM
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Well no one knows when One Piece ends..But over 700 episodes seems like a reasonable estimate.
Feb 10, 2008 5:45 PM

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700 episodes seems reasonable...

i wonder if the stawhats will fight the gorousei...lol (since i saw a samurai in there which would be a typical zoro opponent)

also, is brooke already in the crew? if so they are gonna have a musician, the one crew member that luffy has been so eager to recruit
Feb 10, 2008 6:57 PM

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While Brook hasn't exactly said, "Sure, I'll join your crew, Luffy!" since when they first met, he's... pretty much officially part of the crew already. He's a musician like Luffy's always wanted, he just got his flashback... and he mentioned Laboon waiting a couple more years for him to come back.

So yes, I'd say they finally have their musician.
Feb 11, 2008 3:39 AM

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That should be interesting. Most people already stare at Chopper in disbelief but Brook will get even more reactions. I can't quite imagine that yet. >.<

700 episodes? That would mean in two months we reach half-time? I don't think it will last THAT long. 699 maybe but 700? Never...
Feb 11, 2008 10:22 AM
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Yeah well the arc's keep getting longer and longer. I mean the Thriller Bark arc wasn't really a long arc(It all happened in one night or so) It wouldn't be to weird to expect a few arcs that could be longer then the Arabasta arc or the Water 7/Enies Lobby arc.

So anyway Oda-sensei's taking time off for "research" so i guess thats good news for the next arc then? Maybe its going to get a pretty awesome one again?
Feb 11, 2008 11:25 AM

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for sure it will be...
im just hoping the anime will create good fillers...
Feb 11, 2008 12:07 PM

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So here was something I calculated back in February of last year for the length of the manga in One Piece. Let me know what you guys think"

For the sake of not doing these again, these calculations were done on 2/25/07.

Okay, so I was doing some calculations here...

Let's assume (knowing the fact that One Piece isn't half-way done yet) that One Piece is approximately 40% done. That's (2/5) in fraction form.

So if you take the number of chapters out so far (446) divide that by (2/5), so (446 / (2/5)), you'll get a total of 1115 TOTAL chapters. Again, this is all theoretical and under the assumption that we're assuming One Piece to be about 40% done.

So if we take the total # of chapters (1115) and subtract the current number of chapters (446), we'll get 669 remaining chapters to be drawn/written.

Now, let us again assume that there are about 43 chapters that come out every year of One Piece (let's give Oda a break from bringing out a chapter every week).

So if we take 669 (remaining chapters) and divide that by 43 (chapters per year), we'll get a grand total of 15.558.

15.558 = the number of years it will take Oda to complete One Piece as of today (2/25/07).

Again, its based on heavy assumptions, but if its kinda accurate, we're looking for a lot of One Piece for the next decade or so.

On or about July 27, 2022.
Feb 11, 2008 12:32 PM
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vindemon64 said:
So here was something I calculated back in February of last year for the length of the manga in One Piece. Let me know what you guys think"

For the sake of not doing these again, these calculations were done on 2/25/07.

Okay, so I was doing some calculations here...

Let's assume (knowing the fact that One Piece isn't half-way done yet) that One Piece is approximately 40% done. That's (2/5) in fraction form.

So if you take the number of chapters out so far (446) divide that by (2/5), so (446 / (2/5)), you'll get a total of 1115 TOTAL chapters. Again, this is all theoretical and under the assumption that we're assuming One Piece to be about 40% done.

So if we take the total # of chapters (1115) and subtract the current number of chapters (446), we'll get 669 remaining chapters to be drawn/written.

Now, let us again assume that there are about 43 chapters that come out every year of One Piece (let's give Oda a break from bringing out a chapter every week).

So if we take 669 (remaining chapters) and divide that by 43 (chapters per year), we'll get a grand total of 15.558.

15.558 = the number of years it will take Oda to complete One Piece as of today (2/25/07).

Again, its based on heavy assumptions, but if its kinda accurate, we're looking for a lot of One Piece for the next decade or so.

On or about July 27, 2022.


someone has too much time on their hands. =P

I think I'll still be alive by 2022 xD. well, one more decade or so of One Piece would be nice. the premise that I could be reading One Piece along with my kid doesn't sound so bad.

well, I just hope that he doesn't go insane after doing the same manga for over 20 years. that could also lead to mental fatigue which could lead into a drop in the quality of OP.
Feb 11, 2008 12:55 PM
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...when i first read that calculation i read 15558 years in stead of 15 and over a half year. But anyway Oda senei isn't that old yet so it could be a perfectly true estimate.... And you could put in a extra year before One Piece the Anime is going to finish after that.
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omg , thats still a long way to go,i hope nothing happens to oda sensei x:! .
i dont want onepiece to stop/end halfway x=
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i hope it's not a veryy long arc, because waiting for the episode to come out each week is very torture-us , even though i gave myself the spoiler .


I don't see what arc-length has to do with that. Do you have to wait less when the arc is shorter? It's still weekly after all. >.>
Feb 12, 2008 3:33 AM

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@ Spade ;
imma blur kid D: .i was actually looking @ page two while replying that message -.-

ohhwells.
Feb 12, 2008 10:54 AM

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And now you editted it out to make me look like a liar? Very clever... *glares at you from behind a lamp-post*
Feb 12, 2008 5:24 PM
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OMG...i'm tired of these useless chapters. Nobody cares about that idiot Brook.
Feb 12, 2008 5:35 PM

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Hey, hey, now!
I care about Brook. He is awesome, not an idiot at all. His past is so sad. I loved the last couple of chapters.
Don't forget he is going to be a member of the Straw Hats, so don't be hating on him already. :'[


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lol..but im glad to know his past...
sad and inspiring...=D

the guy who was taking care of laboon was wrong...
brook's crew remembered their friend til the time they died,
well for brooke, even after he died..
its not a "cliche" plot
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OMG...i'm tired of these useless chapters. Nobody cares about that idiot Brook.


It ain't useless it's called "fleshing out" a character. Every single crew member went through one and it's the same for Brooke/Brook (which ever it is) which we can happily say 99.999999% he's joining the Mugiwaras. If you didn't give characters a background, then you wouldn't care for them.
Feb 12, 2008 8:29 PM

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=D that being said...straw hats will be the weirdest pirate crew ever

rubberman + talking reindeer + cyborg + skeleton... what more can u ask for
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Firana said:
Juni354 said:
OMG...i'm tired of these useless chapters. Nobody cares about that idiot Brook.


It ain't useless it's called "fleshing out" a character.


ahaha..."fleshing out" brook? was that intended to be a pun...
cuz either way its hilarious ( that's a certified brook joke )
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And now you editted it out to make me look like a liar? Very clever... *glares at you from behind a lamp-post*


gomenasai T___T .
i actually edited a few minutes later until i saw your reply T-T .
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=D that being said...straw hats will be the weirdest pirate crew ever

rubberman + talking reindeer + cyborg + skeleton... what more can u ask for

A Cerberus ^^
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well the cerberus temporarily became their nakama, sort of (luffy tamed it by force) =D
and they almost had that unicorn and the tree too...lmfao
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well the cerberus temporarily became their nakama, sort of (luffy tamed it by force) =D
and they almost had that unicorn and the tree too...lmfao


Haha, if it were solely up to Luffy, all of the zombies would be in his crew at the moment.

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It ain't useless it's called "fleshing out" a character.


Haha, that is pretty funny.

Anyway, I hope that the Strawhats finally make it to Merman (Fishman?) Island. I have a feeling that the next arc is going to be on par with Enies Lobby.
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vindemon64 said:
Anyway, I hope that the Strawhats finally make it to Merman (Fishman?) Island. I have a feeling that the next arc is going to be on par with Enies Lobby.


Impel Down...i hope. Well, I am thinking it is, since that's the significance of bringing up "ace's fate" during the arc
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Ace isn't Luffy's nakama (yet). But i guess the following chapter could be outside the direct main story.(Like Whitebeard vs. Shanks, Dragon or something else that has relevance to a coming arc) Anyway i guess Merman island is going to be the next big arc, i don't think that Oda's a huge fan of the maiden in distress theme. (Especially when that "maiden" is Ace) I mean even Robin wasn't a real maiden in distress in the Enies Lobby arc.
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Too bad there isn't a One Piece chapter this week! ;__;
Oda is taking a 'break' to do some research on whatever that may be.
I really can't wait for the next arc already! I want Merman Island! I wanna know how they're gonna go underwater! >0<"


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Ace isn't Luffy's nakama (yet). But i guess the following chapter could be outside the direct main story.(Like Whitebeard vs. Shanks, Dragon or something else that has relevance to a coming arc) Anyway i guess Merman island is going to be the next big arc, i don't think that Oda's a huge fan of the maiden in distress theme. (Especially when that "maiden" is Ace) I mean even Robin wasn't a real maiden in distress in the Enies Lobby arc.


Ace wouldn't join Luffy's crew, as he stated very strongly that he was going to help White Beard achieve One Piece or what ever goal it was (been a long time, since it was back in the Arabasta arc)
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Lofoc said:
Ace isn't Luffy's nakama (yet). But i guess the following chapter could be outside the direct main story.(Like Whitebeard vs. Shanks, Dragon or something else that has relevance to a coming arc) Anyway i guess Merman island is going to be the next big arc, i don't think that Oda's a huge fan of the maiden in distress theme. (Especially when that "maiden" is Ace) I mean even Robin wasn't a real maiden in distress in the Enies Lobby arc.


I know...I didnt say they will rescue Ace but somehow, I want to see how this "legendary" impel down is. Kinda interesting.

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Ace wouldn't join Luffy's crew, as he stated very strongly that he was going to help White Beard achieve One Piece or what ever goal it was (been a long time, since it was back in the Arabasta arc)


who knows?? anything can happen...=D
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Firana said:
Lofoc said:
Ace isn't Luffy's nakama (yet). But i guess the following chapter could be outside the direct main story.(Like Whitebeard vs. Shanks, Dragon or something else that has relevance to a coming arc) Anyway i guess Merman island is going to be the next big arc, i don't think that Oda's a huge fan of the maiden in distress theme. (Especially when that "maiden" is Ace) I mean even Robin wasn't a real maiden in distress in the Enies Lobby arc.


Ace wouldn't join Luffy's crew, as he stated very strongly that he was going to help White Beard achieve One Piece or what ever goal it was (been a long time, since it was back in the Arabasta arc)
Well what if White Beard isn't there anymore. Even he cant live forever you know...
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I want to see how this "legendary" impel down is. Kinda interesting.


I want to see it too. Impel Down has to be awesome.
We also might have a little reunion with Crocodile as well as Mr.1,2 and 3 who are imprisoned there as well. ;)
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I want to see it too. Impel Down has to be awesome.
We also might have a little reunion with Crocodile as well as Mr.1,2 and 3 who are imprisoned there as well. ;)


Is Legendary Tom in Impel Down too?
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No, he was brought to Enies Lobby to be executed.
We don't know if it really happened though, it would be cool to see him there as well.
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I want to see it too. Impel Down has to be awesome.
We also might have a little reunion with Crocodile as well as Mr.1,2 and 3 who are imprisoned there as well. ;)


Oooooh, I wanna see Mr. 2 Bon Clay again! I miss him, he was such a funny character. XD (Okama waaaay~~) He's also an ally of the Straw Hats so maybe he will come back and help them in the future. Or they will help him if they ever go to Impel Down. :D *is being hopeful?*


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Didn't Bon Clay escape somehow? i didn't read all the "what happened to" chapters of One Piece that well so i don't remember that clearly..Anyway i don't think that Oda-sensei would be all for big reunions with old enemies, they could have some comic relief but i don't think that we well see all of them back that much. Although we could see Buggy again, but hes never been permanently arrested.
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Nah. He was sent to Impel Down with Mr.0 Mr.1 and Mr.3.
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