Mini Game v23: Angel Beats! Mafia | Game Thread | Game END - Town won!

Shinichi-Kun said:
Jackrito71 So much love and hate in 1 post though this is typical jack. Jack Im just curious of why you would think a scummy policy lynch would make soren get town cred, because if anything coming from soren that just makes him scummy. 145 Soren make's a good point here you do so much talking about your adapting playstyle which seem's like cover to make yourself seem like a townie or to make people think you have no bad motive's with what yoy say or do.147 Here it seem's your activly trying to point out your improving your town skills to get some sympathy and make it look like your trying to be towny maybe?

Togs 240 I like how he comes in talking about the game mechanic and pointing out how they would help town i give him town read for this. He also makes a good point that we should utilize the double lynch while ahead, cause if we utilize once we are at a loss it could just put us deeper in the hole.261 The way he responds here seem's genuine, basically a townie giving his opinion on everything that is going on I don't sense anything motive's here.

souleaterqueen I'm actually curious to this post 74, What made you think he was gonna lurk? Or did you just wanna get an easy train started on someone.Not sure why you would follow up on this 82 but at the same time I also gathered that if one of you flips scum the other is confirmed town cause I can't see 2 scums interacting here.367 Now that i'm giving a much better perspective on how I see everyone in this game what do you think?Also after rereading everything I do get a slight scum vibe from jack but only slightly.

Crossbell 148 Why though, why not just point out your reasons instead of trying to gain cred from pointing out you do have town reads on people. 192 I get a slight town read mainly cause he was the first to bring it up but at the same time it also gives me a slight scum read since he might wanna take advantage of 2 mislynches if he's scum.203 I feel as though here your stat's are biased and your not taking in the account of both lynches being a mislynch, are you that confident in your reads and the chance of scum being caught day 1? 227 Instantly stopped a discussion why he knew it was no benefit for the town and was getting us no where i give him a town read for this.399 I don't know if its just me but cross seem's to always point out when town are going in the wrong direction or doing something they shouldn't can't really see a scum doing that but at the same time I guess it's a neutral at the same time.

BeeboyI like this post65,mainly cause it seem's like he's trying to find town early on to get some good reads.362 Why bring up the fact that some of my post's are fluffy do you think it makes me scummy? 417 Do you think this make's him scummy?

Reality Good ole Reality here 98, I can't really say anything much but since his play style is still the same it will be hard to read him this game like al;ways but lets hope his trap works. 198 His worries seem genuine as scum he would wanna push a mislynch while still being discreet but instead he brings up the negative effects like i did.

Lucian 418 Come's into the game giving his opinion and thought's on everything that has been going on. Explained his likes and dislike about everything he could here. Thought all of this make's him lean towards both scum and town at thw same time.Btw I'm not buddying with jack and i'm pretty sure this isn't the first time I openly defending jack on day 1 nor the first time i've been called out on it. His idea on the twilight phase give off a town read because he both understands the risk's and necessity of the phase.

Followwind 446 Why not vote yet? I wish I could figure that out too because she's not really giving much reason to it. Finally someone realizes i do tend to protect everyone alot atleast on day 1. As for the soul jack quarrel if 1 flips mafia it's safe to say the other would be town. Do like how you come in with read's on people and the fact that your instantly question ari on her reasoning :P.

AA-dono The fact that she asks this question 178 seems genuine an gives off a slight town read. 426 Yes I did also and I meant that he prob has a townlike thought process which is why people always think he's town, I didn't mean to say i thought he was townlike just that other's see him that way. 430 She's asking geuine questions here and seem's like people aren't really giving good answers for her. 437 Make's a good point here about ari. 439 Mainly didn't have much reads on people till now, but at the same time people espically trains tend to have atlaest 1 scum on them that's why i said that.

Soren The posts of all posts 79, not sure why you wanna policy lynch someone its extremely scummy unless you have some way to prove he's scum this is -1 point for you. 214 This is a huge if and what happen's if it back fire cause of wrong reads? 219 I don't think this is true because people could just be like reality and say nothing though i doubt that lol, curious why your so into taking the risk knowing it could hurt town greatly.

Biosshade 248 I don't find this true at all aslong as they keep their eye's open and don't focus on just 1 person. It's actually pretty scummy in my opinion to only focus on 1 person so much on day 1.

Arrisu 278 Comes into the game with a vote I like it and picks a person that need's to be pressured also points out that we need to focus less on mechanics. 287 She want's people to follow her reasoning on me but doesn't show any proof or facts. Also you bring up people should pressure dono more and that you have something on her but ain't giving us something to work with, if you had town motives no reason to hide anything. 288 Not a fan of the fact she's asking people to start a train without giving her reasons for that and the fact that she picks only people she knows are easy to jump on trains. Though if she does flip scum I can't see both of them being scum with her maybe 1 or the other. 340 I actualy found your play style a little different this game espically cause your witholding information i never see you do that. Only town vibe i get from you is when u voting dono to create pressure on someone that was being ignored the rest comes off as scummy to me.

Shuuka 254 Come's into her first game an votes, not sure what to think about this but gives a slight town vibe.


Neutral Reads

Town reads

slight scum reads

full scum reads

Edit:Bioshade is suppose to be a neutral read

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Your read on Jackrito comes from what others have said and you just agreeing with their points.

Your read on Togs is biased, you only see it as townie because it supports your point of view. Also if you are giving town credit to those who give opinion in the game on the current events, a whole bunch of others deserve this credit according to your eyes. I can't help but feel you are only seeing him as townie because he sees you as townie.

The read on me needs more thought, I had 2 motives behind my train on Jackrito which I have already explained to both Crossbell and Arrisu.

Your read on Crossbell, seems you are afraid to commit to a scum read on them so you revert back on a neutral stance but yet you town read them according to the colour?

Bee-Boy read seems hmm, okay I guess?

Your read on Sightless sounds like a forced neutral, when I read it, it seems more like you see him as town. If you know he is setting up a trap and you seem keen to wonder "but lets hope his trap works", if you are TOWN like you keep saying you are then would you not want to hope his "trap" benefits TOWN, and if it does, then why do you refuse to commit this read as TOWN motivated?

Your read on LucianRoy doesn't make sense to me. Another read you are afraid to commit too. It sounds like a similar read as Togs where he gives opinions on the current game events which you gave Togs townie credit for doing. Is it because Lucian is voting you out?

I am going to skip followind read.

I am interested in the aa-dono read given it sounds again you are defending her but she is at a neutral read. Though both of you are voting on the same person who you deem as scum but you mentioned that the likelihood of aa-dono and arri are not scum buddies so that means by process of elimination aa-dono is town according how you view Ari with your vote. So why are you again afraid to commit to a read on aa-dono?

Soren, read is okay... though I don't think the policy day 1 lynch approach is strong enough to give a scum read, it sure was weird but more so on the fact he did not want to move out of his "placeholder RVS" so fast.

bioshade2/shuuka, I still thin they are both being weird but falling into the newbie trap. So I don't know how to approach either 1 of them at this point. Though bioshade2 is being really lurky so not getting good vibes from him.

I don't get why Ari is getting so much heat here with her pressure approach, how is this anything new? The way I see it is because she doesn't get a whole lot of information and wants to get more by pressuring her, she chose aa-dono based on gut feeling reasons and wants to follow up with that - I don't see how this is scummy intentions unless she refuses to follow up with aa-dono's responses.

Shinichi-Kun said:


I give you what you want and your still not happy lol.

Is there something wrong with me agreeing with their points? Cause after rereading the thread some of those points felt true and I started to take them into account.

Not sure where you got that vibe from my read on togs because I ain't seeing him as town because of his defense of me, his way of thinking just has a strong town vibe even if he hadn't defended me I still see him as town. More like you want my view of him to be biased so you can try to connect me and him or something along those lines.

I know the motives atleast I think I do, no ened to relaborate because I see you as town and even now my view on you hasnt changed, plus I don't feel liek going through the whole thread in 1 hour just to give a more ffective view on you.

Because slightless play style can come off as both alignments, but at the same time his hesitation to utilize the twilight feels geunine enough for me to think hes leaning more towards town.

Cause from what i've noticed she's just asking alot of questions I can't get a read off of that like you or ari can sorry to say that lol. Also I have no 1005 gunrantee ari will flip scum but if she doesn't ill know dono is scum if dono flips town then i can just solidify my view on ari. Maybe im jsut bad at explaining my pov.

I already explained why i see soren as a slight scum read

Nothing more I can say about ari, at this point i rather just see what happens with the lynches and the twilight phase before I commit anymore to my views on ari.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

The asking questions part is something scum does in order to show they are active and paying attention to the game, so in a sense I see why it raises alarms.
So what about the others who want to use the twilight phase, what does that say about their alignment?

Shinichi-Kun said:


Depends on the person because i do give town credit to the people who are wary of the consequences and i also give town cred to cross bell for picking up on the double lynching, before i fully decide on how ill read the twilight phase rather see how it actually goes the first time before i decide anything.

Shinichi-Kun said:


I actually like this reasoning tho too bad your trap didn't really give you any info, but at the same time this could just be a great defense to get some people to look away from you.

SoulEaterQUEEN said:
But can you please catch up to the game and make further comment on whether you are committed to a town!Jack or a scum!Jack by now, I have confidence that there's a lot of material in the thread to work with to commit to a read on Jack by this point.

Soren said:
Jack is somewhere between null and slight town lean for me at the moment. He will be one of those players where I can never trust no matter how much scum hunting that do because they play a good scum game.