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Jul 7, 2016 9:55 AM

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One other thing:
Wouldn't it have been easier to deal with grr this phase than me?
Was money that tight lol?

I mean you should have dealt with me a long whiles back, pref before getting the cop result.... but this far in either of the two flips would'ave produced the same amount of information.
Jul 7, 2016 9:58 AM

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Lamby said:
_Claire_ said:

I am so sorry? If I didn't drive Lucian's ass we wouldn't have caught he was insane and killed off aa-dono/Transience.


Rode* not drove.
He essentially gave you a free-pass until the last couple of phases.
Also I'm pretty interested to know if it was worth roping me, couldn't there have been other things more worthwhile than keeping your role hidden before being lynched?

Sorry for my stupid ass Engriiish Lamb-chan. Ya kno I am a dumbass.
Gave me a free-pass hold on, what?
And I didn't rope you. I have no money. I didn't do any of the night events. I don't even know how to play battleship. -_- Why can't I keep my role hidden if I deem it unnecessary? If I had info, I would have say so. I wouldn't risk my life for getting night-killed for nothing. I am so cowwie *cough* that I am not as awesome as you and be like "Oh I am cop Chione is scum" kind of stunt.
Jul 7, 2016 10:02 AM

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Lamby said:
One other thing:
Wouldn't it have been easier to deal with grr this phase than me?
Was money that tight lol?

I mean you should have dealt with me a long whiles back, pref before getting the cop result.... but this far in either of the two flips would'ave produced the same amount of information.

I think you are just pointing out if you are that "important to be killed" you should have been killed loooong while back, now why are you still alive?
Best explanation: you are scum you cant kill yourself right senpai? :'>

And another, yeah my money is tight I literally do nothing for the money lmao.
Jul 7, 2016 10:11 AM

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_Claire_ said:
Lamby said:
One other thing:
Wouldn't it have been easier to deal with grr this phase than me?
Was money that tight lol?

I mean you should have dealt with me a long whiles back, pref before getting the cop result.... but this far in either of the two flips would'ave produced the same amount of information.

I think you are just pointing out if you are that "important to be killed" you should have been killed loooong while back, now why are you still alive?
Best explanation: you are scum you cant kill yourself right senpai? :'>

And another, yeah my money is tight I literally do nothing for the money lmao.


It should have been before I figured my info out in reality, but intentionally playing useless beforehand may have played a part in it.
Between bouncing off carrot and figuring it all out and the end of the game would have been a bad choice as it would just result in confirmations for everyone else, not just myself and those who made use of it.
After Transie's death I should have been fine as a kill as I'd already put everything else in place.

Cross was kept alive at the end for obvious reasons, me being left alive is koz they'd be more against me than grrr. but eh~ it doesn't matter after grrrs flip tbh.
Jul 7, 2016 10:12 AM

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Lamby said:
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Can we use a lynch lock function for this phase?
Seeing as you've been a little rushed concerning phases and all that, also unless something odd goes down this should be the last day phase.
we are thiniking to leave it normal :?
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Jul 7, 2016 10:19 AM

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greenwillow said:
Lamby said:
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@greenwillow

Can we use a lynch lock function for this phase?
Seeing as you've been a little rushed concerning phases and all that, also unless something odd goes down this should be the last day phase.
we are thiniking to leave it normal :?


Righto~
Guess I'll just vote and wait forever again :'<

Vote: Claire
Jul 7, 2016 11:55 AM

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Lamby said:
_Claire_ said:

I think you are just pointing out if you are that "important to be killed" you should have been killed loooong while back, now why are you still alive?
Best explanation: you are scum you cant kill yourself right senpai? :'>

And another, yeah my money is tight I literally do nothing for the money lmao.


It should have been before I figured my info out in reality, but intentionally playing useless beforehand may have played a part in it.
Between bouncing off carrot and figuring it all out and the end of the game would have been a bad choice as it would just result in confirmations for everyone else, not just myself and those who made use of it.
After Transie's death I should have been fine as a kill as I'd already put everything else in place.

Cross was kept alive at the end for obvious reasons, me being left alive is koz they'd be more against me than grrr. but eh~ it doesn't matter after grrrs flip tbh.

I am not sure but pretty much if I remember correctly Queen knew you were fake-claiming and explicitly did it so, I doubt that is the case.
Jul 7, 2016 12:06 PM

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_Claire_ said:
Lamby said:


It should have been before I figured my info out in reality, but intentionally playing useless beforehand may have played a part in it.
Between bouncing off carrot and figuring it all out and the end of the game would have been a bad choice as it would just result in confirmations for everyone else, not just myself and those who made use of it.
After Transie's death I should have been fine as a kill as I'd already put everything else in place.

Cross was kept alive at the end for obvious reasons, me being left alive is koz they'd be more against me than grrr. but eh~ it doesn't matter after grrrs flip tbh.

I am not sure but pretty much if I remember correctly Queen knew you were fake-claiming and explicitly did it so, I doubt that is the case.


What is/isn't the case?
Can't even tell which straws you're trying to grasp at anymore lol
Jul 7, 2016 2:00 PM

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OK I am on a computer and rereading now.
Jul 7, 2016 2:10 PM

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Vote Count 8.1

Lamby (1) // _Claire_
Claire (1) // Lamby

Not Voting : // Crossbell


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Jul 7, 2016 3:20 PM

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_Claire_ said:
I have not seen a lot of posts of aa-dono and Lamby and I would want some, especially aa-dono considering she is one of the most innocent-players-who-nobody-suspects.


Man. Would Claire really talk about dono like this if they were scumbuddies together?
Jul 7, 2016 4:04 PM

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aa-dono said:
Not sure if she change the way she plays during her breaks and mine, but the Claire I remember used to rely a lot on meta.
Most players in MS were against using meta? I didn't know that. I see more people using it than not :/
I can't say it failed. I don't use meta coz I have bad memory of other people's game including my own but my last game, they caught mafia just by meta. And Soul also pointed out how she thinks scum Jack plays differently than town Jack.
Shinichi defended you because of meta too, so meta is something a lot of players like to use.
Question: Did you not notice that? Why? Even if you think MS players doesn't like it, it has been brought up in this game. Were you reading posts selectively?


Bookmarking this post for later reference.
Jul 7, 2016 4:36 PM

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grrr said:
Denja is indeed good pirate.

So out of the remaining 4:
1. There are exactly 3 good pirate aligned players left and Claire is one of them.
2. There are exactly 3 good pirate aligned players left and bad pirates have ability that was used on crossbell at least once so far.
3. There are exactly 2 good pirate players left and Claire is thrid party role.
5. There is excatly one bad pirate left.

Exactly one is true.
What is up with this? Does this confirm Claire as scum?
Jul 7, 2016 5:25 PM

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Vote Claire

I'll keep reviewing but the main sticking point in my mind is where the N2 kill went.

That's when Kasai claimed to have blocked Claire - but now that we know all of the roles, there isn't another type of protection other than Denja's role. I also want to trust Denja and grrr since I assume they knew what they were doing.
Jul 7, 2016 5:26 PM

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1. Soren | 1 shot Reviver | Night 4
2. LucianRoy | Alignment Cop | Day 4 PentaFlare
3. Jackrito | Mafia Godfather | Night 6
4. Shinichi-Kun | Vigilante | Night 1
5. Kasai | Roleblocker | Night 3
6. Grrr | Thief | Night 7 Deepinthelair
7. SightlessReality | 2 shot Veteran | Day 3
8. DenjaX | Sick Doctor | Day 2 magicalofmagic
9. aa-dono | Vengeful Mafia | Day 5
10. _Claire_
11. Karote | Silmotiva | Night 5
12. Crossbell
13. SoulEaterQUEEN | Watcher | Night 5
14. Bee-Boy | Sleepwalker | Died Day 1
15. Transience | Mafia Roleblocker | Day 6[/red] Togs
16. no_chode_name

Like I might be blind but what can block a mafia kill other than Denja's role, which died D2?
Jul 7, 2016 8:34 PM

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Crossbell said:
Vote Claire

I'll keep reviewing but the main sticking point in my mind is where the N2 kill went.

That's when Kasai claimed to have blocked Claire - but now that we know all of the roles, there isn't another type of protection other than Denja's role. I also want to trust Denja and grrr since I assume they knew what they were doing.

How do you explain why Denjax want Lamb to be dead when he was dead?
Kasai never said he roleblocked me. Denjax said that and he said that there was a dead club which I highly doubt. I have never seen a dead club being done before in MS, also with a reviver this is a bit too unbalanced. I really dont know what Denjax was doing framing it to me (now it backfires to me).

A roleblock of mafia faction can stop mafia kill.

Wow I could not believe this is happening again where I am being framed yet again. Tell me, if I were scum why did I try so hard to have aa-dono and Transience lynch?
Jul 7, 2016 8:36 PM

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Crossbell said:
_Claire_ said:
I have not seen a lot of posts of aa-dono and Lamby and I would want some, especially aa-dono considering she is one of the most innocent-players-who-nobody-suspects.


Man. Would Claire really talk about dono like this if they were scumbuddies together?

And I said once again, I ain't scum this game.

Lamby said:
_Claire_ said:

I am not sure but pretty much if I remember correctly Queen knew you were fake-claiming and explicitly did it so, I doubt that is the case.


What is/isn't the case?
Can't even tell which straws you're trying to grasp at anymore lol

You should get what I am saying if you read Lamb. Did you even read?
Jul 8, 2016 4:56 AM

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The thing is.. Denja was town.

He has no ulterior motive to lie about dead chat. We can basically take his word as truth since he was revived.

I'll reread a little more though today to see if I can find any smoking guns that clear you or Lamby.
Jul 8, 2016 5:23 AM

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aa-dono said:
When you remove your vote, Claire becomes the only leading vote. Do you think Shinichi is more genuine than Claire?
"Hey, why are letting our scumbuddy be the highest wagon?"

aa-dono said:
With all these, are you still going to stay your pressure vote on Kasai?
You don't like townread on Penta or Soren. Are you suspecting Crossbell and Beeboy for their reads?
This feels like a softball question to a scumbuddy, similar to how dono reacted with Jack.

aa-dono said:
Vote Karote
First vote on Soul, prompted by Beeboy (If Karote's scum, I doubt Bee-boy would flip scum as well)
Then questioned Shinichi for a bit.
Then he went all Claire.
I'M REVVIN' UP THAT CHAINSAW!
Jul 8, 2016 5:24 AM

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The thing is here is that dono is doing a lot of interacting with her scumbuddies, which is weird compared to last game.
Jul 8, 2016 5:35 AM

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Ugh this is so hard.

From a mechanical standpoint, Claire is mafia. Her claim is unproven and she was roleblocked when the mafia did not kill. It's difficult to believe the mafia skipping a kill with Jackrito at the helm, and grrr + Denja want Claire dead. Lamby has a provable role, though it's quite crazy to believe that he would play this way as a mafia rolecop or something. Plus, even though this is WiFOM, why would scum!Lamby kill grrr instead of me? He could easily kill me and win against Claire Tomorrow.

From a behavioral standpoint, however, Lamby looks quite a bit worse. His fixture on mechanics and the fact that he hasn't posted until lategame is very concerning. Claire also looks better behaviorally; her paranoia of the experienced players reads as pretty natural, though it can be fakable since Jack ended up being scum.

So what do?
Jul 8, 2016 5:58 AM

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Because Transcience roleblocked Lamby and there was no night kill when Claire was roleblocked I am inclined to go with Occam's Razor and vote Claire here.

I mean, it's possible that the scumteam didn't roleblocks anyone in order for Lamby to claim roleblocked, but that seems pretty unlikely.
Jul 8, 2016 7:32 AM

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Well, time to see if I am correct or not.

If Lamby is scum then I will always prioritize behavior over mechanics.
Jul 8, 2016 7:40 AM

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Crossbell said:
The thing is.. Denja was town.

He has no ulterior motive to lie about dead chat. We can basically take his word as truth since he was revived.

I'll reread a little more though today to see if I can find any smoking guns that clear you or Lamby.

Lol, you will be surprised. Seems you dont know Denjax enough.
Jul 8, 2016 7:44 AM

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Since you are online, and if you are town we are about to lose, can you provide a plausible scenario as to why Lamby is scum?

Sure he's more scum behaviorally than you, but I just can't see it based of mechanics.
Jul 8, 2016 7:55 AM

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Crossbell said:
Since you are online, and if you are town we are about to lose, can you provide a plausible scenario as to why Lamby is scum?

Sure he's more scum behaviorally than you, but I just can't see it based of mechanics.

Here is what I tell you. Denjax was lying about the dead club. There exists no such group. He was taking a shot about Kasai roleblocking me, for all he knows it could be Transie who roleblocked me. He was just bluffing. Also remember because phase change faster denjax didnt get to say what he wants. There is no possible explanation, you are probably third party arent you? Dont tell me there is no 3rd prty. Either you or Lamb, but I am gambling you are 3rd party and Lamb is scum.

I knew how Denjax plays, I have played with him a lot and even as townie he pulled weird stunts like this. There is no scum club. What has Lamb actually even done in the whole game? Except his ability, which we have no idea it could be scum or townie. If I didnt push Roy's lynch we wouldnt have caught aa-dono and Transie. If I was scum why would I put both of my scum buddies in bad position that is stupid. As stupid as I am, I have enough logic not to do that.
Jul 8, 2016 8:03 AM

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I am not 3rd party. I don't think there is one in this game.

Can you explain the grrr kill then? Is it WiFOM?

Goddddd this is so hard. I hate end gaming.
Jul 8, 2016 8:15 AM

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Unvote vote Lamby

????
Jul 8, 2016 8:15 AM

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Crossbell said:
I am not 3rd party. I don't think there is one in this game.

Can you explain the grrr kill then? Is it WiFOM?

Goddddd this is so hard. I hate end gaming.

I have no idea, except this is to frame me. God as if I dont hate being framed like this... This is second game I am being left alive just to be a mislynch last day..

There is no 3rd prty? How is it possible?
Jul 8, 2016 8:22 AM

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Vote Count 8.2

Lamby (2) // _Claire_,Crossbell
Claire (1) // Lamby

Not Voting : //


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Jul 8, 2016 8:24 AM

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I will trust in Soren.
Jul 8, 2016 8:28 AM

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Sorry in advance if I'm throwing the game, but Claire has just been so much more behaviorally townie than Lamb.

Mechanics are mechanics, but ugh. I'm hesitant to rely on them in a bastard game.

I accept all blame if we lose this game.
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Transience said:
LucianRoy said:
Trans, who do you scumread beside Crossbell?
You're my town conf, you gotta do town stuff.
Honestly, I am very confused right now
But my best guesses would be Soren or deep. Soren has been barely active this game - which is not what I'm used to seeing in all my games with him. And deep is just..
I doubt I need to explain that.

Soul keeps giving me mixed vibes, so I can't say.
aa- town because of your result
Karote - idk scum/3rd party -- he doesn't really post much, and then doesn't explain his votes at all ( at least I don't recall him ever doing so - which is very anti-town)
Jack - not really sure. He is hard to read because I know he is experienced, so if he is scum, he'd be able to mask it very well. But then he asks a lot of questions, which keeps the game going, and that we need to draw info
Claire - I read her as pretty much town, probably the most town person here, from her interactions with everyone so far
Lamby - I am lost but he sort of claimed before? So leaning towards town
This makes me think town on Claire I think.
Jul 8, 2016 8:38 AM

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Claire if you are scum then good game to you. You played an excellent excellent game and you should be proud of yourself.

I think that I'm just fine with losing to you over Lamby.
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Crossbell said:
Claire if you are scum then good game to you. You played an excellent excellent game and you should be proud of yourself.

I think that I'm just fine with losing to you over Lamby.

If you are town as you say yourself you are not losing. Why are you saying this as if I am scum omg >.>
Jul 8, 2016 8:44 AM

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OK I am ready to move forward with the Lamby lynch.

If this is a mislynch, I am sorry everyone.
Jul 8, 2016 9:00 AM

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Time!

Thanks to vanitystar for making it
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Final votes:
Lamby (2) // _Claire_,Crossbell
Claire (1) // Lamby

Not Voting : //



Lamby
was lynched!

He was.....?





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Whole Setup!
Roles/Player

Townie
1. 2 shot Veteran |Samson "The One-Eyed" Roach | SightlessReality | 40 gold
2. Thief |Will "The Soft Heart" Dogg| Grrr | 85 gold deepinthelair
3. Sleepwalker|Sammy "Devil's Grin" Keys | Bee-Boy
4. Roleblocker|Finn "Black Beard" Fiddick | Kasai | 80 gold
5. Sick Insane Doctor|Pearl Rattle| DenjaX | 40 gold| magicalofmagic
6. Silmotiva (Motivator) | The Swashblucker| Karote | 10 gold
7. Alignment Cop |The Dubloon Devil| LucianRoy | 45 gold PentaFlare
8. Insane Cop |Wade Star| Crossbell | 40 gold
9. Town Vigilante| Elias Drinkwater | Shinichi-kun | 40 gold
10. 1 shot reviver| John Hall | Soren | 40 gold
11. Watcher| Gail Macgregor | SoulEaterQUEEN | 45 gold
12. Lucky Bae| Crossbones Angelo | no_chode_name | 40 gold


Revived Townie
1. Pearl Rattle| DenjaX | 80 gold

Mafia
1. Vengeful Mafia | Nancy "Razor Face" Drown | aa-dono | 75 gold
2. Mafia godfather | John Quicksliver | Jackrito | 105 gold
3. Mafia RoleBlocker | Jonas "Gull Basher" Morgan | Transience | 180 gold Togs
4. Illusionist | Helen Penworth | _Claire_ | 50 gold



Taken from the generator image here


Who can u trust? Did you trust anyone?!


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Jul 8, 2016 9:04 AM

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Sorry guys.
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Thank you all for playing, guys!
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Jul 8, 2016 9:06 AM

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Thank you Claire. You're the best! :)

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lol crossbell >_>


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Crossbell said:
Sorry guys.

I am sorry Crossbell ><
I hope there is no grudge.. >.>
Jul 8, 2016 9:08 AM

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OMG Claire

I am so proud! :D

You were AMAZING!
Thank you! x100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Jul 8, 2016 9:09 AM

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This game is a good example of Behavior reads VS Mechanics reads.

I only rely on Mechanics more. xDD

Also, I lied about the Dead chat club xDD

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OMG Claire

I am so proud! :D

You were AMAZING!
Thank you! x100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

You were reading the game thread too? I didnt expect you to >.< Omg
Jul 8, 2016 9:09 AM

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Also so no 3rd party then?

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I was set on Claire but I seconded guessed myself badly.

I am so angry at myself, ugh.
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