Game v24 : The Howl of the Sea : A Pirate Themed Mafia | Game Thread | Game Over [Mafia Wins]

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@Jackrito It affects only those who visits me the night I am killed. If I'm visited by many, the first person who visits me (who stole my weapon) will have his role revealed.

WTF this is something completely different than what you claimed before >.>

How is it different >,>

Jun 25, 2016 8:23 AM

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WTF this is something completely different than what you claimed before >.>

Ignore me, I am being half asleep, sorry~

Ok. Ignore the post above then haha

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Jackrito said:

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I also have a townblock with Jack this game. I really do believe he is town.
My bias view is that he is my first choice of wanting to develop a townblock with, but as long as he passes the townie test, he will be welcomed into the block.

I never agreed to this, You know I hate been tested as well.

Suck it up princess! I need this to eliminate you out of the PoE pool

You have a whole game to base it off, you also know know my views on this town block nonsense, let me say I was considering this though who else has merit do you feel?

You're just paranoid that I'd stab you in the back with it. My intentions are genuine, so don't you worry. Your hesitation to the town block is to be expected from the last time you seen it in the Heavens & Hell Mafia which checks with your town game. The other person worthy of merit would be Soren, but his presence sort of died off in the last 24 hours, so not even sure if he would be interested.

What benefits do we get from this. Because my main worry is that an potential scum getting in and ruining us because we townread them too much. I did not see the benefits in HVH and I don't now I hate making stuff like this offical makes everyone in it a target since they town read each other.

The benefit that I won't lynch you if I HAD to choose.

I thought I was a strong town read for you anyway so who would I lose to if I don't. Also I need a lot more benefits then this personal gain is not high on my list in these games.

Strong town read IS town block, but you fret on the word "town block".
But for reals though, I may have trouble reaching phase change on time tomorrow, so I am counting on you to make sure things are in line :/

Like I said I hate putting offical names on things and you still have not gave me the benefits of it.I will do my best to but I make no promises only so much I can do at the moment though I'm happy with either lynch.

if I gave you more benefits out loud, then scum will just destroy our connection instead. no ideas why you are pushing on it so much.

No real reason I think scum would destroy it either way tbh.

Just hold that thought until end of game pls. now isn't the time to discuss this

Jun 25, 2016 8:25 AM

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I'm not kidding, I think aa-dono may have a legit claim.

Jun 25, 2016 8:25 AM

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hmmmm... what is this. sounds like a OP version of oracle. is this scum aligned?

oh oh oh~ I misread
this is oracle, kinda.
@Jackrito
this may be legit.

I have a feeling it may be because this is not the type of thing you make up as scum because it is really out there and most people would lynch it anyway like Bee-boy's for example. I'm glad someone else is here to actually discuss this with me though.

Jun 25, 2016 8:25 AM

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aa-dono said:

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Can I have some examples of this uncertaintyand why is this a bad thing I'm never certain on anything unless they is evidence to back it up, Has anyone in this game been certain on anything either this seems such a petty reason to suspect me and could be used on most.

I'm only saying this to you because you said "You should trust yourself" to Shinichi in #97.

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I skimmed through the pages and from what I read, almost everyone is leaning to town?

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Unvote Shinchi-kun

He is coming across as a lot more honest and giving his actual thoughts on the game and even willing to vote people he is whiteknights sort of worried how easy he turned on Kasai a person he says gets lynched too much but Kasai does not help his case. Either way I like this approuch from him and I can only see it from a townie Shinchi since I doubt he could fake this well.

I need to think on this before I vote , they are too many people not doing enough which makes this a lot harder then it should be I don't want to be stuck in a cycle of looking at actives while scum lurk safely. Sadly I will be at work until phase change, so I can't go into the depth of reread I would normally, but I will try my best to be active when I can but this will not be my best and sorry for that. During the night I will do a proper reread on day one and collect m thoughts and give a readlist then.

When you remove your vote, Claire becomes the only leading vote. Do you think Shinichi is more genuine than Claire?

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What I get from #808 and #810 is that you speak to more people when you're town so that you could get a read on them but when you're mafia, your posts are mostly replies and justifications.

I would say both ae pretty genuine in their actions or at least appear to be. I would not like either to be lynched at the moment since I feel they are better options elsewhere. Out of the two though I would pick Claire since Shinchi is looking at the game as a whole more and actiely scumhunting and giving reasons for what he thinks. while Claire just comes off as paranoid and scared which can come from either town or scum. I like the way they are not scared to ask questions with both Karote and Kasai who were both not that active before.

Intresting outlook on Karote by the way. which do yoU think he is doing this game?

He's leaning scum to me. (replies and justification)
I'm backreading 17 to 1 and when I'm bored 1 to 17 so I've only seen him react to Claire in much later pages. I don't know if he probed anyone before reacting to Claire.
Still, I remember Karote from my first game (UAS) and he likes to call out players that others don't give attention to. Gonna check if he has done that.

He did not react to anything mostly posted fluff from memory until pushed by Claire and I think he overreacted personally, He has not called out anyone from memory either so I need to recheck this.I really don't like how many early town reads he got imo since I think he got strong town reads far too easy.

Early town reads = strong town reads?

What do you think about Soul then? You didn't give Shinichi a town read that quick but you were all yes yes with Soul. Do you read her posts as town?

Yes I do they is a large amount of biased views in my case on Queenfor obv reasons, though it is a mix of belief that I don't think she could fool me easily and we have a similar mindset so I think I would be able to see through anything she did if fake.

I read her posts very much as town, she is happy to question others and give her own views scum will be more compliant and sheep more. I know she has a strong scum game though so would not do that likely anyway, but she appeared really annoyed in this game over been scum read and was also willing to unvote Shinchi after discussion a scum does not back down with ease because they know it does not matter as much and if they can make someone look bad for a mislynch they will push it all the way.

My main thing is she wanted people to vote her early on that is not a scummindset since it could backfire it is more likely a townie will do this to bait scum into lynching them it is what I do when I vote scummy players early on and what Lamb did in the early game as well. She is a strong player so of course scum will take adv of a possible lynch on her.

I know a lot of this is biased so don't read into it too much but I really think she is town all her actions make sense to me and I agree with them.

I found all of them to be full of this sort of syntax:
This person would do this...... but.... so maybe not
This sound like........................ but I could be wrong.

I thought town Jack would take the blame after a mislynch, not before. Still, I know it's not a strong read, that's why I'm not voting you. Though like Bee-boy, if there was a train on you, I won't be against it.

Fair enough I can see how that does look as me having doubt mainly because in all of them is me been doubtful why is this bad though, I have a lot of doubt in my scumhunting ablity look at any of my games and you will see this. So this is a strange thing to pick out. To be fair since you bothered to look I will go through each point and where my doubt came from.

1 and 2 .A lot of that is me talking about people meta which is something that no one should ever take as fact, espically with Players like Lamb and Karote.

3rd is really harsh to pick out since I give reasons for my doubts and I think anyone would in that situation

The 4th one I disagree with I would say that is not that doubtful it has hints of it but I was pretty confident in my view which is why my Read on Queen has been so strong so strange you picked this one. Queen is the only person I would feel confident on

5th I don't even see doubt in this one so why did you pick this one out?

I really feel you are trying despartely to make me look bad here so back to my first question explain to me why you think my doubt is a bad thing.

Also your last line intrests me you expected me to take the blame for that lynch after but not before why?

Also as I said it is normal for me to doubt my votes and lynches because I hate to mislynch the Tsundere game is nothing but me doubting myself . This comes before the lynch or after depends on my confidence level.

On no. 5, why would you say "don't look into it" when you've posted them for others to read?

I'm not desperately trying to make you look bad. You weren't in my vote consideration. I told you the points were weak. You're simply not my townreads. You asked for these, and now you're saying I'm the one trying to make you look bad.

You always go with this line, "If they're town, they could defend themselves well." "If I'm wrong, then blame me but these are my reads and I'm sticking with them." But you're so full of uncertainty in this game. And they came before you knew the alignment of your lynch target.
I think uncertainty is normal. The way you go about it is weird.

Sounds like you think Jack's uncertainty is forced....?
I also like how she's got opinions now and is sticking to them, atta girl.

Well the word I thought is "made up".
Yes, I think Jack's uncertainty is made-up.

I doubt it. It's like you are asking him to make up his personality, his uncertainty is carried through his personality

Jun 25, 2016 8:28 AM

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Jackrito said:

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oh oh oh~ I misread
this is oracle, kinda.
@Jackrito
this may be legit.

I have a feeling it may be because this is not the type of thing you make up as scum because it is really out there and most people would lynch it anyway like Bee-boy's for example. I'm glad someone else is here to actually discuss this with me though.

idk, I think she *could* be telling the truth here, and may actually be inno.
her constant posting is telling me something that she's trying to put up some fight at least even if it's a strange one. she normally just gives up I think as scum

Jun 25, 2016 8:28 AM

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I'm not kidding, I think aa-dono may have a legit claim.

sadly even if it is they is little we can do about it, because of how fast that train build and no one is that bothered about anything dono said after it,that worries me a bit.

Jun 25, 2016 8:28 AM

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oh and seriously, where the hell is everyone else? this is sad.

Jun 25, 2016 8:29 AM

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I'm not kidding, I think aa-dono may have a legit claim.

sadly even if it is they is little we can do about it, because of how fast that train build and no one is that bothered about anything dono said after it,that worries me a bit.

yup, I'm worried too.

Jun 25, 2016 8:30 AM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Jackrito said:

I have a feeling it may be because this is not the type of thing you make up as scum because it is really out there and most people would lynch it anyway like Bee-boy's for example. I'm glad someone else is here to actually discuss this with me though.

idk, I think she *could* be telling the truth here, and may actually be inno.
her constant posting is telling me something that she's trying to put up some fight at least even if it's a strange one. she normally just gives up I think as scum

You know her a lot better then me, we have fell into that trap recently in the Angel beats game though, I think her scum game may be better then we think but this is a claim that would be strange to make up

Jun 25, 2016 8:30 AM

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@SightlessReality
caaaaptain.

Jun 25, 2016 8:32 AM

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idk, I think she *could* be telling the truth here, and may actually be inno.
her constant posting is telling me something that she's trying to put up some fight at least even if it's a strange one. she normally just gives up I think as scum

You know her a lot better then me, we have fell into that trap recently in the Angel beats game though, I think her scum game may be better then we think but this is a claim that would be strange to make up

yeah but in the angel beats she didn't even fully claim that's the thing. she just gave her flavour text and left it at that
idk. she's playing weird that's for sure, but she always plays weird hence my hesitation to lynch her angel beats on D1

Jun 25, 2016 8:32 AM

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@aa-dono
you said the doc can't protect you at night right?
also, why were you afraid to be targeted for a night kill on N1?

Jun 25, 2016 8:34 AM

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@Jackrito
the way you were pressuring Karote earlier makes me think you think they are more likely to be scum. Am I right?

Jun 25, 2016 8:36 AM

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Jackrito said:

You know her a lot better then me, we have fell into that trap recently in the Angel beats game though, I think her scum game may be better then we think but this is a claim that would be strange to make up

yeah but in the angel beats she didn't even fully claim that's the thing. she just gave her flavour text and left it at that
idk. she's playing weird that's for sure, but she always plays weird hence my hesitation to lynch her angel beats on D1

I'm going to change because I sort of trust this and don't like the way people have not cared about thier defense apart from a couple of us. This may not make a differeance but I would rather do this then sit on my vote on someone who is trying and answered all of our questions. I also believe is town a lot more then denjax at this point.

Vote denjax

Jun 25, 2016 8:36 AM

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@aa-dono
you said the doc can't protect you at night right?
also, why were you afraid to be targeted for a night kill on N1?

I'm always afraid of night kills.
I'm not saying the doc can't protect me. I'm saying I don't want doc to try.

Plus, my ability, the revealing part only works on 2nd night, because I need to make the weapon first. I think. Oh wait, lemme ask shad on that.

Jun 25, 2016 8:38 AM

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@Jackrito
the way you were pressuring Karote earlier makes me think you think they are more likely to be scum. Am I right?

Oh I do for sure, I have thought this for a while which is why I have questioned people townreading them so much and why I want to know thier thoughts on the game and different people.

Jun 25, 2016 8:38 AM

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yeah I think aa-dono is inno

Jun 25, 2016 8:39 AM

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DenjaX (4)// no_chode_name , SoulEaterQUEEN,Crossbell,Jackrito
aa-dono (6)// Karote, Soren, _Claire_, PentaFlare,SightlessReality
_Claire_ (1) // DenjaX
deepinthelair (1)// deepinthelair
Crossbell (1) // aa-dono

Not voting // Kasai,Transience

› Time until Night 2 ‹

Thanks to vanitystar for making it

Jun 25, 2016 8:39 AM

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aa-dono said:

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@aa-dono
you said the doc can't protect you at night right?
also, why were you afraid to be targeted for a night kill on N1?

I'm always afraid of night kills.
I'm not saying the doc can't protect me. I'm saying I don't want doc to try.

Plus, my ability, the revealing part only works on 2nd night, because I need to make the weapon first. I think. Oh wait, lemme ask shad on that.

Why do you appear to know so little on your role how bad is your PM? it changes a tiny bit each time.

Jun 25, 2016 8:40 AM

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this could be a buying time tactic used by scum but aa-dono is too honest to ever push on being calculative like that. but I am banking this on her personality here

Jun 25, 2016 8:40 AM

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Catching up.

I will foam at the mouth if aa-dono is actually scum, but I would prefer a Denja lynch over her.

Jun 25, 2016 8:42 AM

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I'm always afraid of night kills.
I'm not saying the doc can't protect me. I'm saying I don't want doc to try.

Plus, my ability, the revealing part only works on 2nd night, because I need to make the weapon first. I think. Oh wait, lemme ask shad on that.

Why do you appear to know so little on your role how bad is your PM? it changes a tiny bit each time.

I have the bad habit of not asking about it. Especially when it's not an active ability.

@SoulEaterQUEEN I made weapons every night and the role reveal also applies every night. :/

Jun 25, 2016 8:42 AM

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Jackrito said:

aa-dono said:

I'm always afraid of night kills.
I'm not saying the doc can't protect me. I'm saying I don't want doc to try.

Plus, my ability, the revealing part only works on 2nd night, because I need to make the weapon first. I think. Oh wait, lemme ask shad on that.

Why do you appear to know so little on your role how bad is your PM? it changes a tiny bit each time.

this tells me that this isn't a straight up fake claim. I feel like on a fake claim she would be more confident with it since it was thought out

Jun 25, 2016 8:43 AM

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Vote DenjaX

@SightlessReality captain~~~

Jun 25, 2016 8:43 AM

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I think those votes need to move off dono if you ask me. I think she's innocent

Jun 25, 2016 8:46 AM

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I think those votes need to move off dono if you ask me. I think she's innocent

Are you sure?

Jun 25, 2016 8:47 AM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

Jackrito said:

Why do you appear to know so little on your role how bad is your PM? it changes a tiny bit each time.

this tells me that this isn't a straight up fake claim. I feel like on a fake claim she would be more confident with it since it was thought out

Maybe I don't know it is possible they did not expect some of the questions, but this is why most fake claims are simple so they don't get mixed up and I doubt she would make something too complex up as welll .

Jun 25, 2016 8:47 AM

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I think those votes need to move off dono if you ask me. I think she's innocent

Are you sure?

I'm not 100 % sure, but I think Denja is more scum than aa-dono at this point. dono is putting in the effort that I never seen before, and the lack of people even caring about her defense concerns me a lot. :/

Jun 25, 2016 8:47 AM

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_Claire_ said:

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I think those votes need to move off dono if you ask me. I think she's innocent

Are you sure?

Please vote Denja.

Jun 25, 2016 8:48 AM

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I think those votes need to move off dono if you ask me. I think she's innocent

Are you sure?

Unvote me Claire. You suspect Denja anyway

Jun 25, 2016 8:51 AM

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I am not entirely sure about this one, I still feel like something is off with aa-dono but I will trust Queen judgement on this one. @Crossbell I am still looking at you. If denjax is town, I am going to scumread you.

Vote : Denjax

Jun 25, 2016 8:52 AM

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I am not entirely sure about this one, I still feel like something is off with aa-dono but I will trust Queen judgement on this one. @Crossbell I am still looking at you. If denjax is town, I am going to scumread you.

Vote : Denjax

I was gonna say, you may not get penta's alignment sense here, but you may get something on Crossbell who makes me curious too.

Jun 25, 2016 8:52 AM

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DenjaX (6)// no_chode_name , SoulEaterQUEEN,Crossbell,Jackrito, aa dono, _Claire_
aa-dono (5)// Karote, Soren, PentaFlare,SightlessReality
_Claire_ (1) // DenjaX
deepinthelair (1)// deepinthelair

Not voting // Kasai,Transience

› Time until Night 2 ‹

Thanks to vanitystar for making it

Jun 25, 2016 8:53 AM

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aa-dono said:

_Claire_ said:

Are you sure?

Unvote me Claire. You suspect Denja anyway

Denja is playing weird I have to say but I am fine lynching you or Denjax or Crossbell atm.

Jun 25, 2016 8:54 AM

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SoulEaterQUEEN said:

_Claire_ said:
I am not entirely sure about this one, I still feel like something is off with aa-dono but I will trust Queen judgement on this one. @Crossbell I am still looking at you. If denjax is town, I am going to scumread you.

Vote : Denjax

I was gonna say, you may not get penta's alignment sense here, but you may get something on Crossbell who makes me curious too.

You still think so as well on Cross then, my issue now is have we created a tie? or is it 6 to 5 now.

Jun 25, 2016 8:54 AM

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hmhmmmhhh

Jun 25, 2016 8:54 AM

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Jackrito said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

I was gonna say, you may not get penta's alignment sense here, but you may get something on Crossbell who makes me curious too.

You still think so as well on Cross then, my issue now is have we created a tie? or is it 6 to 5 now.

If I am right and Captain vote counts as 2 then it's currently a tie.

Jun 25, 2016 8:55 AM

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oh and that captain vote was REALLY put to good use >.>

Jun 25, 2016 8:55 AM

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_Claire_ said:
I am not entirely sure about this one, I still feel like something is off with aa-dono but I will trust Queen judgement on this one. @Crossbell I am still looking at you. If denjax is town, I am going to scumread you.

Vote : Denjax

I was gonna say, you may not get penta's alignment sense here, but you may get something on Crossbell who makes me curious too.

No I will not get any Penta's alignment sadly. There is nothing to connect Denjax and Penta so far I can say but Penta has not even reacted much with aa-dono's defense. I wonder.

Jun 25, 2016 8:55 AM

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I hope Denja flips scum.

Jun 25, 2016 8:56 AM

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shiiiiit
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do something!!!

Jun 25, 2016 8:56 AM

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Karote said:

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You still think so as well on Cross then, my issue now is have we created a tie? or is it 6 to 5 now.

If I am right and Captain vote counts as 2 then it's currently a tie.

I think his vote is already counted since only 4 are voting but it says 5. What are your thoughts on this?

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_Claire_ said:

SoulEaterQUEEN said:

I was gonna say, you may not get penta's alignment sense here, but you may get something on Crossbell who makes me curious too.

No I will not get any Penta's alignment sadly. There is nothing to connect Denjax and Penta so far I can say but Penta has not even reacted much with aa-dono's defense. I wonder.

^
I wonder too...

Jun 25, 2016 8:56 AM

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Where is Kasai and Transcience at this moment...

Jun 25, 2016 8:56 AM

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oh and that captain vote was REALLY put to good use >.>

Did I not say this would happen.

Jun 25, 2016 8:57 AM

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shiiiiit
Karote
do something!!!

hi

Jun 25, 2016 8:57 AM

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