| I'm puttiing my vote here for now Vote:no Lynch |
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| 3 Votes for Lucian 3 Votes for Followind 2 votes for NoLynch 1 vote for Jackrito |
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| S SightlessReality said: So this will prevent scum from shifting their votes at EoD?We really need a vote count about now. I'll repeat this. We need 3 trains. 2 will be our prime suspects to move into twilight & the third will be the No Lynch option as the failsafe. However, fo that to work the No Lynch vote vote will need to be 1 vote less then the two suspects votes so we don't end up with a 3 way tie. I am unable to fully catch up and I don't think I will be around for phase change, so I agree with moving votes to followind/Lucian. I am still slightly in favor of the Jackrito/followind plan so we 100% bag a scum, but if Jackrito is scum then my view of the gamestate is extremely off and SoulEaterQUEEN would also be scum in that world as well, which in that case I am fine losing to them - they played a stellar game. |
Crossbell said: S SightlessReality said: So this will prevent scum from shifting their votes at EoD?We really need a vote count about now. I'll repeat this. We need 3 trains. 2 will be our prime suspects to move into twilight & the third will be the No Lynch option as the failsafe. However, fo that to work the No Lynch vote vote will need to be 1 vote less then the two suspects votes so we don't end up with a 3 way tie. I am unable to fully catch up and I don't think I will be around for phase change, so I agree with moving votes to followind/Lucian. I am still slightly in favor of the Jackrito/followind plan so we 100% bag a scum, but if Jackrito is scum then my view of the gamestate is extremely off and SoulEaterQUEEN would also be scum in that world as well, which in that case I am fine losing to them - they played a stellar game. Yes, if they try and shift the votes to a none scum we can retaliate by switching our votes to the no lynch option. Additionally if the twilight votes are tied at EoD they can't shift to the no lynch option because that to will reveal them as scum. |
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| I'm just worried about them timing it to the last second or so. I have done similar quickhammers like that in the past (wait until 15 seconds to EoD, all post at once, no time for town to retaliate). Should I get 4 votes on Lucian/followind and 3 votes to NL? |
Bee-Boy said: This is extremely tempting and I kind of want to go with this, even though it causes the scum to kill all of our power roles. It's the most "safe" option since we are 100% guaranteed to lynch scum.I don't ever consider players resources but maybe the games I play with are filled with strong players usually. My problem with not doing Followind, Jackrito is that we are taking an unneeded risk. Followind, Jackrito guarantees we hit scum and nothing else we do is more reliable then that. |
| yes I'd change it to 4 votes if possible. if Lucian as scum wants to save himself, this will pressure him into bussing his teammate. Same for followind but he's probably sleeping due to timezone. |
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| Huh? Double HUH?? Is this a troll? |
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| Siiigh if SoulEaterQUEEN and Jack are scum then I'm fine losing to them I guess? I really hate just. Taking the risky option when we have a pretty safe option as well. SoulEaterQUEEN and Jack are very behaviorally town, though. Vote followind |
Crossbell said: I'm just worried about them timing it to the last second or so. I have done similar quickhammers like that in the past (wait until 15 seconds to EoD, all post at once, no time for town to retaliate). Should I get 4 votes on Lucian/followind and 3 votes to NL? Quickhammer as a whole is something to worry about in general. I know though that I'll be around for EoD to change my vote if some one tries to shift within seconds of EoD. Basically it's our best option to counter it but it's not full proof but nothing ever is. |
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Crossbell said: Bee-Boy said: This is extremely tempting and I kind of want to go with this, even though it causes the scum to kill all of our power roles. It's the most "safe" option since we are 100% guaranteed to lynch scum.I don't ever consider players resources but maybe the games I play with are filled with strong players usually. My problem with not doing Followind, Jackrito is that we are taking an unneeded risk. Followind, Jackrito guarantees we hit scum and nothing else we do is more reliable then that. Why would scum ever allow it to go to to twilight though, if they lynch a townie today they win right. So no need to hide anymore they can all just change votes last min. |
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| We can't play absolute caution because of the ratio lynching right now. We need to utilize PRs when we can. If you WANT to play the absolute caution card then we don't do twilight and just lynch Followind instead. Jack is also a really good scum hunter as well, I do not want to lose to him for late game either. |
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Jackrito said: Yeah, good point. They can just pile on the votes to lynch the town out of the two.Crossbell said: This is extremely tempting and I kind of want to go with this, even though it causes the scum to kill all of our power roles. It's the most "safe" option since we are 100% guaranteed to lynch scum. Why would scum ever allow it to go to to twilight though, if they lynch a townie today they win right. So no need to hide anymore they can all just change votes last min. OK, I'm fine with Lucian/followind. If you and SoulEaterQUEEN are scum then I must tip my hat and say "good game". |
| Ok I thought about it, I am willing to take the gamble Jackrito is town. I probably have the least reliable reads here as I am unfamiliar with how people here play and I have access to none of your individual metas. |
followind said: followind said: Why do you even find me scummy? I've only posted a bit since I've been a little occupied and have some connection issues... I don't think me being a bit inactive earns me a scum read tbh... @aa-dono Can you please answer this... I don't like my questions being ignored.. aa-dono said: "Too" here is a question whether he, like Jack, read you as scum as well. As for me, yes. Not because you were inactive. |
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| Thought experiment: What if LucianRoy is town and scum pile votes onto him at EoD? |
| The town on lucian all pile vote no lynch |
| The scum can pile vote 15/10 seconds until deadline though? :/ I don't know, the more I look at this the more I just want to lynch followind and take the chance that Jackrito is scum. |
Shinichi-Kun said: aa-dono said: Heh. Didn't you say in these post: Is this still your "I defend everyone"? Or you couldn't make up you mind about your own reads? Idk why your pointing me out to be a bad guy when i'm the uncounterclaimed doctor lol. and yes it was lol I 2nd guess my decisions all the time and i have a hard time deducing stuff. Missed your claim or didn't understand it :/ But I point at everyone >,> Everyone here is a better player, I'll point at any odd things. |
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Crossbell said: So can town though. Countering Quick Hammer with Quick Hammer.The scum can pile vote 15/10 seconds until deadline though? :/ I don't know, the more I look at this the more I just want to lynch followind and take the chance that Jackrito is scum. |
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| If anyone votes 1-5 minutes before deadline we all pile on no lynch. We can queue the vote as well. |
| Willing to clear Jack based on this. That's a pretty instinctual response that makes a lot of sense if Jack is actually a power role. |
| Ehh, you guys can do what you guys want to do but I still think a followind lynch is the best, most safest option to do Today. Going to go out now, unsure if I will be back on phase change. If we lose this game to Jack and SoulEaterQUEEN good game to them, I would never have caught them. |
Crossbell said: The scum can pile vote 15/10 seconds until deadline though? :/ I don't know, the more I look at this the more I just want to lynch followind and take the chance that Jackrito is scum. I don't mind this option either. But I think you meant to say Jackrito is town. I will also change my vote to no lynch if I see some strange hammer votes happen. I refresh like a crazy person close to deadline anyway. I'd like to think it requires some skill to hammer a vote like 15 seconds before deadline though so the chances of that happening should not be that high. As dirty as this sounds but I want to keep an eye out the online status of players in the thread to caution out lurkers. |
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| My question is "what's the mindset for scum!followind to claim a power role"? |
Shinichi-Kun said: Sorry sorry sorry. Dumb brain at 2.30am.aa-dono said: Why not? I do ask a lot of question and I realize my opinions are very different (and wrong; Ari), plus Soren's good defense. What do you mean by checking up? What do you mean by nice positioning? Insertion to the Jack train? I don't know if my English have gone really bad, because right now I'm not even asking because I detected something off, I simply don't get what you guys are/were saying. ;-; Insertion means the way you placed your vote and under the circumstances of that vote placement. I still don't get it. |
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Crossbell said: My question is "what's the mindset for scum!followind to claim a power role"? I really think followind was directed on some plan by another player in the Mafia club. Based on the way he was spouting out wifoming, I suspected it was LucianRoy because he likes to guide newer players, and loves to talk about wifom every single game we played together. Claiming a PR gives 50 % of a mislynch to happen, so why the hell not if they are just going to dump their mafia goon (I assume this out of optimization purposes) and can just kill/rb the other confirmed PR. It gives info and a chance to mislynch. |
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aa-dono said: Shinichi-Kun said: Sorry sorry sorry. Dumb brain at 2.30am.Insertion means the way you placed your vote and under the circumstances of that vote placement. I still don't get it. It means the way you voted or the circusmtances of why and where u placed your vote lol |
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Crossbell said: My question is "what's the mindset for scum!followind to claim a power role"? I think as Queen pointed out eariler someone else is telling him what to do, and how to post using Wifom in a post for example is a strange thing to do if he does not know what it means. So I think scum were putting him up to fakeclaim so they could killl someone in the process and if it backfired they lost someone who was new and they learned a powerole from it they had a lot more to gain then lose. I want to add something I just thought of as well on day one the main thing Followind was doing was trying to find what Shinchi was hinting at with the info we have now I think he was doing this to see if the evidence was enough there so he could fake clam it safely. I see no reason why a townie would want to know a powerrole so bad on day one |
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| Though why they chose backup is beyond me when they could have outed the doc instead. But maybe they are afraid of role investigation over the possible night kill protection. But I guess statistically speaking, night kill protection isn't that great given the number of players still left in the game. But also thanks to this PR claim battle and a volunteer claim, now scum knows who the vig was, who the role cop is, who the back up is, and narrows down who the doc is. Time is the only upperhand we have right now. |
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| I want to vote for followind but I see you guys wanted a tie. What's the vote count now? Also, is meta the only thing against Lucian? |
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Vote Count 2.4: LucianRoy (3): Togs, SoulEaterQUEEN, Shuuka followind (4): Jackrito, SightlessReality, Bee-Boy, Crossbell Jackrito (1): followind No lynch (1): Shinichi-kun Players not voting: (LucianRoy, aa-dono) |
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Jackrito said: He was lynched, so it wasn't really perfect :/aa-dono said: Your defenses are all good though. Why can't Soren have perfect defense as well? Did you detect mafia? What do you mean? I don't have a perfect defense I never do espically in this game, where I have been a lot more loose and free minded because I always had a role to fall back on. No defense is perfect because no one should be thinking about it that much unless they are scum or hiding something. Even in my best games as scum I have made mistakes because I lack the absloute caution needed to be prefect. |
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| If we do make it to Twilight and do Double Lynch the Silver lining is that even if one of the two is town and the others Mafia it gives us more time to find the scum. At the moment they still are at 6/3 to win but if 1 gets knocked down that reduces them to down to 4/2. Assuming things go that way we will be at 5/2. it's still lylo but the numbers should better favor town at that point I think. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Though why they chose backup is beyond me when they could have outed the doc instead. But maybe they are afraid of role investigation over the possible night kill protection. But I guess statistically speaking, night kill protection isn't that great given the number of players still left in the game. But also thanks to this PR claim battle and a volunteer claim, now scum knows who the vig was, who the role cop is, who the back up is, and narrows down who the doc is. Time is the only upperhand we have right now. I think they chose my role because of Shinchi hinting at doctor on day one so it would of been easy to tell they were lying. I was really the only option left to them |
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aa-dono said: I want to vote for followind but I see you guys wanted a tie. What's the vote count now? Also, is meta the only thing against Lucian? Hard to use much else when he has offered so little. |
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| @aa-dono come on man, you are doing this weird thing where you are talking about stuff from the past. I need your head in the game at the current game state~ |
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Jackrito said: aa-dono said: I want to vote for followind but I see you guys wanted a tie. What's the vote count now? Also, is meta the only thing against Lucian? Hard to use much else when he has offered so little. It's his meta change that's his ultimate downfall as scum sadly. Soren caught it in the Harry Potter game on Day 1. |
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| Thanks Chione. But Lucian.... just by meta? And they're both not here :( Which means they can make defense on twilight phase. Inner voice speaks. Vote: Lucian Gonna re-read Lucian's post. If I don't feel like he's scummy, gonna just vote for followind. |
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SoulEaterQUEEN said: Was just trying to catch up.@aa-dono come on man, you are doing this weird thing where you are talking about stuff from the past. I need your head in the game at the current game state~ Changed my mind. Vote on Lucian. Twilight phase will be when I read his posts. It's 3am. I have to wake up at 4.30am. Ok changed again. I just don't sleep or sleep after class. |
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Vote Count 2.5: LucianRoy (4): Togs, SoulEaterQUEEN, Shuuka, aa-dono followind (4): Jackrito, SightlessReality, Bee-Boy, Crossbell Jackrito (1): followind No lynch (1): Shinichi-kun Players not voting: (LucianRoy) |
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| My opinion is: If either of followind or Lucian are town, they didn't put notable effort into Today. If they're town it's on them. |
| I am not liking Crossbell recently in all honesty. A lot of "if x is scum they deserve to win" and "if y is town they deserve to be lynched" >_> |
| I'm at page 8 and Lucian only posted once and my eyes are rebelling. Brain said: YOU HAVE MORNING CLASSES Heart said: B-but mafia game Also, I've been reminded about health so twilight phase it is. Sorry. I'm less busy tomorrow. Goodnight |
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| just realized something alice ur plan makes no sense because your expecting every player to vote to create a 3/4/4 the odds of that are so slim. |
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| I'm not worried since there's enough of us who can switch the vote to no lynch which will subtract from the current votes as Bee-Boy already mentioned. |
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| 20 mins till EoD |
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