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Jun 13, 2013 10:45 AM

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ssjokg said:
Makarov try to edit your posts so that you dont double post...

In the end of FZ ,Sakura says that as a realization,not hatred or sadism.That is the final "lesson" form Zouken.In more detail that part from the novel:


Kiritsugu's death wasnt shown in the anime but he dies right after his final line.I think that Shirou's flashback in FSN shows that but I could be wrong since I saw FSN 3-4 years ago.


okay :)

hmm soukka.. that is make sense :3

kiritsugu's death is not show in anime :/ it just telling us he is dead :3
Jun 13, 2013 11:07 AM

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makarov52 said:
ssjokg said:
Makarov try to edit your posts so that you dont double post...

In the end of FZ ,Sakura says that as a realization,not hatred or sadism.That is the final "lesson" form Zouken.In more detail that part from the novel:


Kiritsugu's death wasnt shown in the anime but he dies right after his final line.I think that Shirou's flashback in FSN shows that but I could be wrong since I saw FSN 3-4 years ago.


okay :)

hmm soukka.. that is make sense :3

kiritsugu's death is not show in anime :/ it just telling us he is dead :3
I mean showing Shirou saying that he died at that point.
Jul 19, 2013 3:42 PM

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ssjokg said:
makarov52 said:
ssjokg said:
Makarov try to edit your posts so that you dont double post...

In the end of FZ ,Sakura says that as a realization,not hatred or sadism.That is the final "lesson" form Zouken.In more detail that part from the novel:


Kiritsugu's death wasnt shown in the anime but he dies right after his final line.I think that Shirou's flashback in FSN shows that but I could be wrong since I saw FSN 3-4 years ago.


okay :)

hmm soukka.. that is make sense :3

kiritsugu's death is not show in anime :/ it just telling us he is dead :3
I mean showing Shirou saying that he died at that point.

Kiritsugu didn't die in 4th grail war.. he died some time after in those ten years before 5th war started. If I remember correctly he died about 5 years before this story.
Jul 20, 2013 3:12 PM

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Mich666 said:
ssjokg said:
makarov52 said:
ssjokg said:
Makarov try to edit your posts so that you dont double post...

In the end of FZ ,Sakura says that as a realization,not hatred or sadism.That is the final "lesson" form Zouken.In more detail that part from the novel:


Kiritsugu's death wasnt shown in the anime but he dies right after his final line.I think that Shirou's flashback in FSN shows that but I could be wrong since I saw FSN 3-4 years ago.


okay :)

hmm soukka.. that is make sense :3

kiritsugu's death is not show in anime :/ it just telling us he is dead :3
I mean showing Shirou saying that he died at that point.

Kiritsugu didn't die in 4th grail war.. he died some time after in those ten years before 5th war started. If I remember correctly he died about 5 years before this story.
So how is that any different from what I said?
Jul 20, 2013 5:07 PM

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ssjokg said:
So how is that any different from what I said?

you said that:

but that's not true, at least game-wise (and I am sure anime will mention this also).


Edit: scrap that, you are right, I thought you were talking about end of Fate/Zero when makarov52 was asking about that.
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Mich666 said:
ssjokg said:
So how is that any different from what I said?

you said that:

but that's not true, at least game-wise (and I am sure anime will mention this also).


Edit: scrap that, I thought you were talking about end of Fate/Zero.
But the end of FZ is the part where Kiritsugu dies.If you read the VN you will see that after his final line("I am glad"or whatever)he dies.At least thats what Shirou says.
Perhaps you mean 5 years after the end of the 4th War because at the end of FZ, 5 years have already passed since Kiritsugu saved Shirou.
Jul 21, 2013 11:24 AM

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Interesting start.
Jul 21, 2013 12:49 PM

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I still can't understand why would anyone bother with this FAIL Adaptation, especially considering there's a remake in the works.

ufotable's Fate/Zero ignores DEEN'S FSN ANIME ANYWAY
Jul 21, 2013 3:11 PM

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Fai said:
I still can't understand why would anyone bother with this FAIL Adaptation, especially considering there's a remake in the works.

ufotable's Fate/Zero ignores DEEN'S FSN ANIME ANYWAY
Was it stated that it will be a remake?

Anyway, DEEN's FSN anime did introduce me to the Nasuverve and made me start reading everything I can(unlike Tsukihime), so I can say at least it does a good work on that.
Aug 7, 2013 7:05 AM

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I can say only one thing about this episode. Way too RUSHED !!!
Aug 7, 2013 7:37 AM

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Always-Hungry said:
I can say only one thing about this episode. Way too RUSHED !!!


Total runtime of anime: ~8 hours.
Total runtime of the whole VN: ~50 hours.

no shit sherlock.

Anime original material also did not help this show.
Oct 30, 2013 3:41 PM

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The pacing was really off this first episode. I guess I'm glad they're trying to fit all the stuff that happened but it came off as hard to follow. If I didn't know the background, I think I'd be confused with some of the stuff. Character designs are adapted well and I'm glad they have the same VAs from the VN.
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Jan 11, 2014 1:52 PM

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pretty good episode
Jan 29, 2014 2:15 PM

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Just starting this and for a first episode it was pretty good. Looking forward to the next episode.
May 11, 2014 11:00 PM
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Not bad for a first episode. This guy can become the worlds greatest mechanic.
Aug 21, 2014 10:12 AM

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Loved the novel.
Wasn't impressed by this episode. Seems like a bad adaptation.
Aug 21, 2014 3:49 PM

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alpir said:
Loved the novel.
Wasn't impressed by this episode. Seems like a bad adaptation.
If you read the novel then there's absolutely no reason to sit through this; it will disappoint you horribly.
Aug 21, 2014 6:04 PM

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Botato said:

If you read the novel then there's absolutely no reason to sit through this; it will disappoint you horribly.


Ok thanks for the head ups. I will just skim through it I think.
Another disappointment huh.
Sep 9, 2014 2:32 PM

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Wanna know who's Rin's servant! :o
Sakura acting too differently, in F/Z she was way colder even being a kid. Now she's acting all kawaii and being sweet ._.
Hum, so Kiritsugu died after 10 years? A bit unexpected.
Seems like Kiritsugu's adoptive son can also use some sort of magic.
I like the information "flow" of this episode, makes it even more interesting =) The comedy scenes soft the seriousness of F/SN which is also pretty cool.
So Rin's servant is also an Archer-class, just like her father's.
Wut?! Illya appeared =D I can't say it was unexpected but the character design is basically the same but now she's grown.

Good episode.
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b1GZZ said:
Wanna know who's Rin's servant! :o
Sakura acting too differently, in F/Z she was way colder even being a kid. Now she's acting all kawaii and being sweet ._.
Hum, so Kiritsugu died after 10 years? A bit unexpected.
Seems like Kiritsugu's adoptive son can also use some sort of magic.
I like the information "flow" of this episode, makes it even more interesting =) The comedy scenes soft the seriousness of F/SN which is also pretty cool.
So Rin's servant is also an Archer-class, just like her father's.
Wut?! Illya appeared =D I can't say it was unexpected but the character design is basically the same but now she's grown.

Good episode.



The last scene in Fate/Zero already had Kiritsugu dying after saying he's glad. So not "after ten years", but somewhere in between in those ten years.

With weeks left till remake, why would anyone in their right mind sit through this travesty of adaptation?
Sep 9, 2014 2:48 PM

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Fai said:
With weeks left till remake, why would anyone in their right mind sit through this travesty of adaptation?

Cuz F/SN 2014 has a different route. And it's not like you should care about what I watch or not.
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Fai said:
With weeks left till remake, why would anyone in their right mind sit through this travesty of adaptation?

Cuz F/SN 2014 has a different route. And it's not like you should care about what I watch or not.
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Sep 9, 2014 3:27 PM

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Fai said:
With weeks left till remake, why would anyone in their right mind sit through this travesty of adaptation?

Cuz F/SN 2014 has a different route. And it's not like you should care about what I watch or not.


It being a different route does not change the fact that this adaptation is anime-original non-canon mish mash of all routes that amounts to nothing and has no connection to Fate/Zero.
And you are right I am not responsible for your own stupidity/idiocy.
Oct 17, 2014 2:21 PM

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An interesting episode...
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Oct 17, 2014 2:21 PM

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People still watch this?
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Oct 17, 2014 3:31 PM

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natsucule said:
People still watch this?


People might have been confused and watched the wrong one~
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CookingPriest said:
natsucule said:
People still watch this?


People might have been confused and watched the wrong one~


Lol no one's confused.

1. Being in a franchise already makes people more inclined to watch all the series.
2. Idiots like you think by hating on this anime will get others to stray away from it and it has the opposite effect (I know that's why I'll be watching tsukihime soon)
And finally because you know...it's actually a good show.
Feb 16, 2015 1:47 PM

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So finally it's on my screen too: The Fate series. Was a nice first episode, a lot of talking, it was hard sometimes to keep up with reading the subs. But next episode we'll get some action :)
Feb 16, 2015 1:53 PM
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Gator said:
So finally it's on my screen too: The Fate series. Was a nice first episode, a lot of talking, it was hard sometimes to keep up with reading the subs. But next episode we'll get some action :)


Please do yourself a favor and don't watch this adaptation, it is not too late for you, you still can be saved!
If you don't want to read the Visual Novel, then start with the currently airing adaptation of the second route called "Unlimited Blade Works": http://myanimelist.net/anime/22297/Fate/stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29

For more information just take a look at this fantastic guide: http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1286059

The 2006 F/SN shouldn't be taken as a representative of the Fate franchise due to its inaccuracies, and it's important that you don't allow it to influence your impression of the story and characters when you read the visual novel or watch the 2014 F/SN UBW.
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Feb 17, 2015 12:51 AM

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Somebody messaged me the exact same text too, funny how immediately after starting this series people send me this :D
Feb 17, 2015 4:10 AM
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Gator said:
Somebody messaged me the exact same text too, funny how immediately after starting this series people send me this :D


The Fate franchise has a really large fanbase in which almost everyone has the opinion that this adaptation by Studio DEEN is not good. Maybe it is ok as a standalone but when you know this is an adaptation of one route of the Visual Novel, you can not call this one a decent one. The main character Shirou is not portrayed correctly, his character is butchered and the story makes sometimes no sense because they mixed scenes from the other two routes "Unlimited Blade Works" and "Heaven's Feel" into this adapatation. At this point you should really stop watching this Fate/stay night and move on to the UBW tv series because your overall experience and enjoyment will be so much better.
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Yeah I heard that much and I try to see it as a "standalone" series together with the UBW movie. Since Fate/Zero and UBW 2014 are much better adaptions, I'll judge the Fate series after watching them and not by this show.

After watching 3 episodes I definitely won't drop this, I'm enjoying it too much right now. But thanks for your advice :)
Feb 17, 2015 4:38 AM
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Gator said:
Yeah I heard that much and I try to see it as a "standalone" series together with the UBW movie. Since Fate/Zero and UBW 2014 are much better adaptions, I'll judge the Fate series after watching them and not by this show.

After watching 3 episodes I definitely won't drop this, I'm enjoying it too much right now. But thanks for your advice :)


At least this is the right mindset.
If you really don't want to drop this, we can't stop you. You have every right to continue watching the DEEN adaptation, but keep in mind, that you will be spoiled by this adaptation because there are scenes included from the other two routes which shouldn't be in this adaptation at all. I would still recommend to set this on hold and start with the better adaptation, but it is up to you.
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Gator said:
Yeah I heard that much and I try to see it as a "standalone" series together with the UBW movie. Since Fate/Zero and UBW 2014 are much better adaptions, I'll judge the Fate series after watching them and not by this show.

After watching 3 episodes I definitely won't drop this, I'm enjoying it too much right now. But thanks for your advice :)

I'm just saying, even if you decide to watch this, don't watch the UBW movie for sure, seeing as it's the exact same story as 2014, just hacked and rushed with very little context and characterization.
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At least this is the right mindset.
If you really don't want to drop this, we can't stop you. You have every right to continue watching the DEEN adaptation, but keep in mind, that you will be spoiled by this adaptation because there are scenes included from the other two routes which shouldn't be in this adaptation at all. I would still recommend to set this on hold and start with the better adaptation, but it is up to you.

I don't really mind spoilers so I rather start with the worse adaption. I rather watch something bad and then something good, so I might enjoy the bad show :)

Insertanamehere said:
I'm just saying, even if you decide to watch this, don't watch the UBW movie for sure, seeing as it's the exact same story as 2014, just hacked and rushed with very little context and characterization.

Until yesterday I actually planned to skip the UBW movie, but then I thought why not, let's see why it's supposed to be that bad ^^ But if you say I'll lose a lot of enjoyment of UBW 2014 I might have to rethink that decision.
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Gator said:

Until yesterday I actually planned to skip the UBW movie, but then I thought why not, let's see why it's supposed to be that bad ^^ But if you say I'll lose a lot of enjoyment of UBW 2014 I might have to rethink that decision.

If you want, you could watch it after both seasons of 2014 to compare, though you'll certainly diminish your experience of Ufo UBW if you watch the movie first.
Feb 17, 2015 4:58 AM
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Gator said:
xcllnt said:
At least this is the right mindset.
If you really don't want to drop this, we can't stop you. You have every right to continue watching the DEEN adaptation, but keep in mind, that you will be spoiled by this adaptation because there are scenes included from the other two routes which shouldn't be in this adaptation at all. I would still recommend to set this on hold and start with the better adaptation, but it is up to you.

I don't really mind spoilers so I rather start with the worse adaption. I rather watch something bad and then something good, so I might enjoy the bad show :)

Insertanamehere said:
I'm just saying, even if you decide to watch this, don't watch the UBW movie for sure, seeing as it's the exact same story as 2014, just hacked and rushed with very little context and characterization.

Until yesterday I actually planned to skip the UBW movie, but then I thought why not, let's see why it's supposed to be that bad ^^ But if you say I'll lose a lot of enjoyment of UBW 2014 I might have to rethink that decision.


Yes, please skip at least that movie since it is supposed to adapt exactly the same story as the new tv series of Unlimited Blade Works. You can still watch the movie AFTER the second cour of the tv series aired (by the end of June) and then compare. Deal or no deal? :(
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Insertanamehere said:
Gator said:

Until yesterday I actually planned to skip the UBW movie, but then I thought why not, let's see why it's supposed to be that bad ^^ But if you say I'll lose a lot of enjoyment of UBW 2014 I might have to rethink that decision.

If you want, you could watch it after both seasons of 2014 to compare, though you'll certainly diminish your experience of Ufo UBW if you watch the movie first.

Hm in that case I might skip the movie, I'm not too fond of anime movies anyway. Thanks mate :)

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Yes, please skip at least that movie since it is supposed to adapt exactly the same story as the new tv series of Unlimited Blade Works. You can still watch the movie AFTER the second cour of the tv series aired (by the end of June) and then compare. Deal or no deal? :(

Okay deal, I'm allowed to watch this show but I'll skip the UBW movie. So everyone's (kinda) happy xD
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Insertanamehere said:

If you want, you could watch it after both seasons of 2014 to compare, though you'll certainly diminish your experience of Ufo UBW if you watch the movie first.

Hm in that case I might skip the movie, I'm not too fond of anime movies anyway. Thanks mate :)

Well there is/are the Heaven's Feels movie/s that should be watched after Ufo UBW;
http://myanimelist.net/anime/25537/Fate/stay_night:_Heavens_Feel
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Gator said:

Hm in that case I might skip the movie, I'm not too fond of anime movies anyway. Thanks mate :)

Well there is/are the Heaven's Feels movie/s that should be watched after Ufo UBW;
http://myanimelist.net/anime/25537/Fate/stay_night:_Heavens_Feel

Yeah but they haven't aired so far, I'll make sure to watch them when they are out, but probably after Fate/Zero. I heard Rider plays a bigger role there :)

Just for clarification, storywise:
2006 Stay Night != UBW 2014
UBW Movie = UBW 2014
Is that correct?
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Pretty much, though 2006 adds in some elements of the UBW and HF routes.
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Gator said:
Insertanamehere said:

Well there is/are the Heaven's Feels movie/s that should be watched after Ufo UBW;
http://myanimelist.net/anime/25537/Fate/stay_night:_Heavens_Feel

Yeah but they haven't aired so far, I'll make sure to watch them when they are out, but probably after Fate/Zero. I heard Rider plays a bigger role there :)

Just for clarification, storywise:
2006 Stay Night != UBW 2014
UBW Movie = UBW 2014
Is that correct?


The story in F/SN 2006 should be different from UBW 2014 since F/SN 2006 adapts the first route called "Fate", but there are some scenes from the UBW route DEEN added to their adaptation (which makes no sense at all). But yes, the story in F/SN 2006 is mostly different.

Fate/Zero is meant to be watched after Heaven's Feel (when you know absolutely everything about Fate/stay night). Fate/Zero (especially the first episode) spoils major revelations and twists of Heaven's Feel which could diminish your enjoyment and experience. The end of Fate/Zero also seems like an asspull if you don't know Heaven's Feel (because everything you need to know to fully understand the end of Fate/Zero is explained in Heaven's Feel).
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xcllnt said:
The story in F/SN 2006 should be different from UBW 2014 since F/SN 2006 adapts the first route called "Fate", but there are some scenes from the UBW route DEEN added to their adaptation (which makes no sense at all). But yes, the story in F/SN 2006 is mostly different.

Insertanamehere said:
Pretty much, though 2006 adds in some elements of the UBW and HF routes.

That's okay, at least I get the Fate route somehow and have a justification to watch this show and drop the movie ^^

xShigarakix said:
actually you should watch Fate Zero after Heaven Feels Movie because F/Z spoils everything

xcllnt said:
Fate/Zero is meant to be watched after Heaven's Feel (when you know absolutely everything about Fate/stay night). Fate/Zero (especially the first episode) spoils major revelations and twists of Heaven's Feel which could diminish your enjoyment and experience. The end of Fate/Zero also seems like an asspull if you don't know Heaven's Feel (because everything you need to know to fully understand the end of Fate/Zero is explained in Heaven's Feel).

Yeah I read that, but I really don't wanna wait for the movie to come out... and I love watching stuff in airing order ^^

Thank you guys, I love how Fate-fans are so passionate about their series :D
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xcllnt said:
Fate/Zero is meant to be watched after Heaven's Feel (when you know absolutely everything about Fate/stay night). Fate/Zero (especially the first episode) spoils major revelations and twists of Heaven's Feel which could diminish your enjoyment and experience. The end of Fate/Zero also seems like an asspull if you don't know Heaven's Feel (because everything you need to know to fully understand the end of Fate/Zero is explained in Heaven's Feel).

Yeah I read that, but I really don't wanna wait for the movie to come out... and I love watching stuff in airing order ^^

Thank you guys, I love how Fate-fans are so passionate about their series :D


That is absolutely reasonable and understandable. At this point I would recommend to read the Visual Novel (or at least the Heaven's Feel route). But there are people who just don't like Visual Novels which is also perfectly fine.

The good thing is after watching the UBW tv series you will know what to expect of a Fate/stay night route. There are people who got into the Fate franchise by starting with Fate/Zero. They loved it and then they went on to watch Unlimited Blade Works with the expectation of it to be Fate/Zero 2. In the end they were disappointed because Fate/stay night and Fate/Zero are completely different and Fate/stay night didn't match their (false) expectations. Fate/Zero focuses on other things and ties the three routes of Fate/stay night.
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I don't know what to think of it. But for sure, the series has some potential.
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As far as first episodes go, this isn't that bad. I don't know whats going on, but I know it'll build up. I love magic so I'm really excited there's going to be magic in this anime.
Also, I cant wait to see the action, sine that first battle looked intense. :D
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I couldn't be fucked sifting through heaps of Watch Order Forums and Posts so im watching it in production order. Cant be as bad as Blue Gender
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After Prisma Illya it's interesting to see the same characters differently. Taiga seems to be as clumsy and confused as her Prisma counterpart though.

Interesting start.

Also, yeah, that was totally a gas leak. Like the "gas leak" in Prisma Illya 3rei.
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I felt like going to sleep. Taiga was an annoying no-nonsense character. The dub is squeaky. Confusing. And the music is nothing special.
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Decent start for what seems to be an average story (general brawl with the hero discovering his true self and his past through confrontation probably)
The drawings are fine too. (of course, the chara-design is not particularly good as expected after watching Tsukihime)

3/5
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